Conspiracy Discussion, Part 1

Conspiracy Discussion, Part 1
Posted Sept 13, 2010
Blayne:
Actually as far as the 3 WTC buildings being taken down by explosives the counter arguments are all speculative theories with no precedents. Where as the facts of how the buildings came down have hundreds of precedents and all of them are from buildings taken down by explosives. High rise steel buildings do not disintegrate in mid air and collapse at free fall speed into their own foot print from fire or planes period there is no precedent in history.

A nuke would have incited the people much more and made people much more suspicious. What is so complex about it? The buildings were supposedly undergoing renovations for over a year so there would be little if any wonder about construction types in the buildings. I used to maintained networks in some high rises in LA and you can get around in those buildings in the utility areas with out being seen most of the time too.

One can speculate on it being to complex to pull off never the less the facts are the buildings were taken down with explosives.
JJ
IYou say there are hundreds of precedents demonstrating a WTC type demolition.  Can you cite just one?  The largest one I can find as only twenty some stories.

There were not enough renovations going on to secretly have a crew of hundreds go in and pull apart the buildings clear to the steel beams and plant and wire the explosives.  Someone would have seen then in there with blow torches cutting he necessary Vs in the steel.

Why haven’t one of the hundreds of necessary workers talked let alone the other conspirators?

Why didn’t the explosives go off as soon as the planes hit?

Why was there no sound of the explosive force as happens in regular demolitions.  There are so many unanswered questions it is beyond belief.

A small nuke (or a dozen other things) would have been much easier had there been a conspiracy and it could have been easily blamed on terrorists.

Check out this short video in demolition:
Video

You really ought to watch the History Channel one also:
History Chanel Video

From Wikipedia
Thomas Eagar, a professor of materials science and engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also dismissed the controlled-demolition conspiracy theory. Eagar remarked, “These people (in the 9/11 truth movement) use the ‘reverse scientific method.’ They determine what happened, throw out all the data that doesn’t fit their conclusion, and then hail their findings as the only possible conclusion.”

Preparing a building for a controlled demolition takes considerable time and effort. The tower walls would have had to be opened on dozens of floors. Thousands of pounds of explosives, fuses and ignition mechanisms would need to be sneaked past security and placed in the towers without the tens of thousands of people working in the World Trade Center noticing. Referring to a conversation with Stuart Vyse, a professor of psychology, an article in the Hartford Advocate asks, “How many hundreds of people would you need to acquire the explosives, plant them in the buildings, arrange for the airplanes to crash […] and, perhaps most implausibly of all, never breathe a single word of this conspiracy?”

Here is a short film explaining the collapse of WTC7 which was not hit by a plane.
WTC7 Video

Blayne:
No need for secrets they were supposedly removing asbestos.

JJ
I can’t find any evidence of this on the site you referenced or any other site.  Do you have a reference?

Blayne:
Like I said I have spent time in high rises in LA you don’t need to pull anything apart there are access points to the column areas on every floor this is where they run all the utilities. They were renovating supposedly to clean out asbestos etc no one would question what they were doing and people would be kept out of those areas due to asbestos and cleaning a steel column to metal would have been chalked up to getting rid of asbestos and the regular people in the building would rarely see them as they would be in the access areas or if not the area they were working would be cleared due to asbestos.

JJ
I can’t find any evidence that anyone was clearing out asbestos and if there was someone doing renovation there should be a record. They would have had to supposedly renovate the whole building to wire it for explosives and I can’t find any evidence of this.

JJ Quote
Why haven’t one of the hundreds of necessary workers talked let alone the other conspirators?

Blayne:
You don’t need hundreds of people I have seen documentaries on TV of teams of ten to twenty wiring a whole building for demo.

JJ
These were not just any buildings.  If the largest building destroyed by demolition explosives took 20 people then the three WTC buildings with over 10 million square feet would have taken well over 100 workers to prepare them.

Blayne:
People have talked and been dismissed as crackpots.

JJ
Maybe you can supply an interview with a couple of these.  If they are for real they should have something on youtube.

JJ Quote:
Why didn’t the explosives go off as soon as the planes hit?  Why was there no sound of the explosive force as happens in regular demolitions.

Blayne
There are many reports of explosions listen to firemen and others reporting multiple explosions

Video

JJ
Everyone agrees there were a number of explosions most probably caused by broken gas lines but where is the audio of explosions that have the distinct sound of explosives from demolition???  This video (Click Here) gives the sound at a real demolition and then gives the sound of the twin towers coming down.  Obviously there wasn’t demolition type explosions that brought down the towers.

From the time the first plane hit there were thousands of recording devices active.  Surely one of them would have picked up the explosions but none have that I can find.  How about you?  Can you produce just one recording proving there were real demolition type explosions???

JJ Quote
You say there are hundreds of precedents demonstrating a WTC type demolition.
Can you cite just one? The largest one I can find as only twenty some stories. (Note Blayne found one 32 stories)

Blayne
There are probably hundreds alone in Las Vegas they demo buildings this way all
the time
Video1

Video2

Video3
JJ
I watched these are they are nothing like the collapse of the Twin Towers.  The collapse of these  began at the top and proceeded downwards.  The examples you gave did not do this. Let us see a demolition expert prepare a 110 story building and fly a plane into it without igniting the explosions and then hours later begin the explosions right where the plane hit. How would one go about doing that?

Also you never answered why the two planes did not ignite the explosives as soon as they hit.

Copyright 2010 by J J Dewey