The Intuition, Part 5

This entry is part 10 of 49 in the series JJ Lectures

So we develop our minds, our reasoning, our philosophy, and we are pretty proud of ourselves and then we continue to progress. As mind is developed, most people go through a period where they are atheist for a few lifetimes because as they leave their emotional feeling and instinctive natures behind, they only believe what they can see for a period of time and they cannot see God, so many of them become atheists. The religious people think these atheists are really bad people but a lot of the atheists are fairly progressed people. How many here have talked to many atheists before?

Audience: I have and most of them seem extraordinarily intelligent.

JJ: Yes they are pretty intelligent and that is because they are just learning to use their use mind. But what happens to all of us is we take our mind as far as we can go and we hit a dead end and we can’t get the answer that we want. Now first of all when we begin to develop the mind we get answers that the other people can’t see. They realize that burning forever in hell is silly, and then they are proud of themselves for figuring that out and they think, “I am a lot more intelligent than this stupid born again person over here.” So they go through that period where they are very proud of what they discover until they discover everything they can with their mind and then they reach a dead end.

What is existence all about anyway, I am born and then I die and that is it, but that does not make sense either. What is the answer? And so they begin asking questions that their mind can’t answer. They do not have enough information and they think well if I just had more information I could maybe put it all together and figure out what everything is about. So they hit this dead end and we reach this point and this is where an ancient esoteric statement comes in, “The mind is the slayer of the real.” In other words, there are higher beings and there is a God but the person slays these truths, slays the fact there are other worlds besides the physical because he can’t see them, he slays the fact that there are higher beings, that there are angels, that there is a world of spirits, that there are several layers of existence that he cannot see. He slays all these things with the mind because he can’t see them and prove them concretely. After he slays everything that is real with his mind he has nothing and his life is empty and in this emptiness he begins to ask why and he begins to crave more information and this craving gets stronger and stronger and stronger until finally something happens. He breaks through into the world of intuition.

Okay so the guy reaches the end of his rope and something triggers deeper thought, like he may have a child that becomes ill and is near death or some tragedy happens in his life or divorce – something will trigger it. Then he realizes, you know I think I am pretty smart and I have not figured out anything, I don’t even know why I am here, I don’t know what my life is about, I don’t know why my kid is sick or why my wife left me or why this anvil dropped on my foot – I don’t know anything I thought I knew. He struggles with this and because of the trigger or a crisis he thinks there has to be more than just life and death, there has to be more to it.

So what he does is he sends a signal to his internal soul and he focuses his attention within himself. This is a message to his higher self saying, hey I want something from you.

So as he does this it may last a period of time, it may take years and he may be going through a period of struggle, he may kill himself and come back and be in the same situation. It may last a few lifetimes or it may be very intense over a short period of time but he keeps sending out these signals. Then one day he may not be even thinking about the mysteries of life, suddenly, for the first time, he will hear what is called the “still small voice.” It is really not something like psychism where he gets a psychic message or something like this, it is not instinct but it is the still small voice from the soul and it is different from what he has ever heard before in any past life.

It will be so still and so small he will think he is imagining it. First he will put it out of his mind but then after a period of time passes something will dawn on him. “That thing I imagined, that message that I felt really means something now that some time has passed. I can see that it was 100% truth. If that happens again I will pay more attention.” Sure enough, because he did give it some weight, he goes forward and he hears it again and he says I am probably imagining it again so he does not really trust it yet.

So time passes again and he hears it again and he says, boy that message that came to me was 100% reliable. He begins to pay attention to it and as he does this he realizes it is accurate and when he realizes that it is accurate then his whole life turns around. He is thinking, “I am receiving these impressions and it has to come from some source and my sub-consciousness could not do this. This means that there must be a God after all and there must something higher up there and I am having access to something higher that I have never had before and it is extremely reliable and extremely enlightening.

As he begins to pay attention to it the still small voice doesn’t really get louder but his hearing gets better. His hearing gets tuned in so that the voice is yet small and still but his attunement becomes better and better until he begins to breakthrough and understand the world of intuition. Now the world of intuition speaks in the language of principles. If you get a piece of data that is not intuitive knowledge. If you get a feeling that say someone is going to have a car accident or something like that, that is psychism. But once you get the intuition it comes in the language of principles and the best way to express it is in an idea.

Have you ever been thinking on something and all of a sudden you get an idea? That is like a reflection of the lower intuitive and as a matter of fact some ideas are intuitive and others are brain conjecture. An idea turns on a light and an idea is the closest thing that an average person can relate to that relates to what the intuition is. You cannot always put an idea into one sentence and it may take a book to explain. Once you see an idea in your mind you see more than can be written in words. You might see where the idea can take you; you might see where the idea came from; you might see all the variations of the idea.

Everything that is in the physical here originated in the higher worlds as an idea, the earth was an idea. You as a being right here are an idea in the mind of God, an eternal idea created outside of time and space and because you existed outside of time and space in the mind of God it means that you are eternal because you were not created in time and so time will never make you fade away from existence.

Intuitive knowledge is different than brain activity, different from psychism, different from mental conjecture. It is contacting the soul. Now, it is important to understand this: We have the physical world and we have the spiritual world and we have the interplay. Spirit and matter when they meet create soul. You are a physical being and a spiritual being and within are spirit and matter interplaying. That interplay is where soul is. One of the best expressions is, “That part where water, land and air meet which is neither wet nor dry” Now I want you to visualize that place, the place where water, air and land meet and it is neither wet nor dry. That is the soul. It is neither spirit nor matter but the interplay of the two and that is soul energy.

The soul energy is the doorway to the intuition and to all the higher worlds. What the person does when he makes this breakthrough is he looks within and he looks on the physical and the spiritual and then he looks right between the two and he sees the door to the higher worlds, which is the soul. This is an actual doorway, a doorway that has no time and space. Visualize that place on the seashore, the water is coming in, you have the dry sand and they meet and the place is neither wet nor dry. This is the place where magic is wrought.

The kingdom of the soul is within and it is neither spirit nor matter and that is where the magic occurs. The first magic that will occur will be pulling down ideas and intuitions from the higher worlds. This is an important step for the disciple to take and all disciples must take this step.

It takes quite a bit of time to become what is called soul infused. Because when we first start contacting the higher worlds we think it is our imagination. Psychics are different. When they begin to have some psychic activity boy they put a lot of faith in it and a lot of it is unjustified faith because they still have a lot of error going on. But then after going through the period of developing the mind and then you have the mind slay the real and you don’t believe anything but the physical then it is very hard to work yourself back into a state of believing. Now you are heading back to being a big believer in the mystical and these people you condemned as an atheist are seen as allies.

As you are working into this again you have a hard time believing this is real because it almost seems to good to be true. Here you were in a state of mind where you thought that only what you see is true and now you are finding out that there is all kinds of invisible things that are going on that are true and you are seeing this with a greater reality than you have ever seen it before, but it just seems too good to be true. Remember this quote from book I? There is nothing too good to be true. In other words anything that is good can be true and not everything that seems good is true.

There is nothing too good to be true. Anything that we can see that is good we make true if we want it badly enough. It is difficult for the person once he has developed the intuition to accept it. Have any of you been through that where you have had a new idea, truth or revelation come to you and it is hard to believe?

Yolanda from the audience: Yes I have had that happen and most of the time my problem is not having the confidence in myself.

JJ: Yes and this is a big problem. When the intuition begins to break through and expand it is largely due to placing confidence in what you receive. In my own personal life I have had a hard time having confidence in what I have received a number of times until I found out later that it was a 100% true and that I should have followed it and I had bad repercussions because I didn’t follow it. This is what we need to do – to test ourselves a little and there is nothing wrong with testing ourselves, making sure we are on the right track. Once we find that we are on the track of intuition the difference between intuition and everything else is that intuition is 100% reliable.

The only thing that is unreliable about this is that you may bring some idea or concept down from the higher worlds and distort it through your personality and ego. But at the point when you receive it, it is pure but then as we implement it we tend to get spiritual amnesia.

 

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103 Favorite Quotes

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“Electricity creates action from the center outwards and magnetism pulls from the periphery to the center causing concretization into form.”
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“When we die and are no longer connected to the physical or etheric brain our consciousness is altered.”
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“The war between light and dark, as it plays out in present time on this planet, is between the philosophy of maximum freedom and maximum control at the expense of freedom.”
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“When one puts his attention on seeing that which is true he is taking the inner right hand path.”
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“Pain is caused by people identifying too strongly with physical reality.”
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“There is a spirit in man which is real with enduring emotions, which, when made sensitive by obeying the commandments and exercising faith can bring us to a sure conviction of things unseen.”
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“Many seekers believe that passion is a negative thing that must be stamped out, but if directed by the soul it can be put to very constructive use.”
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“Great change is always caused by a small number of people.”
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“The only true Mighty and Strong One is the Spirit of God and he upon whom he descends is a vessel of strength but God is no respecter of persons and the Spirit can descend on anyone who is capable of receiving it.”
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“A prophecy which is believed creates a thought-form from the power of thought and feeling, and its fulfillment is often more predicated on the shape of the thought than on the original will of God.”
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“When we recognize and master the hypnotic suggestions within us we become masters of our fate.”
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“We have to be ready for knowledge before it can be poured into us. We have to be ready for the soul light.”
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“Eternal words are very powerful and do not pass away because they carry in them the seed of an eternal principle.”
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“Truth only exists in form. Any word, including truth needs form to express itself.”
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“The problem is that the conspiracy people have always looked for the problem where it is not rather than where it is.”
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“The truth is that we are all co-creators with God and suffering exists because we either allow it or have not yet learned to master it.”
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“There is no such thing as mind without emotion for one must pass through the world of emotion to develop mind.”
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“All the peoples in the world must eventually be synthesized into the best of the teachings of the great masters of the past from both sides of the earth.”
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“In general advanced souls do serve as angels or servants of the race between lives.”
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“The emotionally polarized person has instinct, can calculate and feel, but does not think.”
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“Now within the main quantum, or one second of human consciousness, there lies an eternity of time where billions of tiny lives are in motion and events are transpiring that would astound us if we could but observe all that is going on around and within us.”
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“One can never become a Master unless he masters situations through his own intelligence and inner strength.”
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“The first thing to always keep in our consciousness is the realization that the past does distort the present.”
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“The next race, the sixth will not experience a great change in form but will be a synthesis of all races and the beauty of the individual will be refined. The change is more in consciousness than the physical form excepting that the majority will be beautiful.”
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“When we unravel regular seeing then other things normally invisible comes into focus.”
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“To convert the line of most resistance to the line of least resistance we must adapt.”
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“A principle is the underlying truth that makes all facts valid. It requires judgment to use and can not be programmed into a computer.”
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“The preservation of advances made by diligent souls is the origin of the maxim that “the good die young.”
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“Always be suspicious when you see a belief that is gaining great popularity and look in the opposite direction. In that direction is much truth to be found.”
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“Political truth cannot be divorced from spiritual truth for political truth is merely spiritual truth that has progressed beyond theory and some portion is actually being applied in a society past, present and future.”
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“If a person claims to be a great one from the past yet does nothing great in the present then you can be assured that something does not compute.”
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“To make real progress in spiritual evolution one must be willing to accept change, even if his whole belief system is shattered.”
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“The Christ was above the consciousness of his disciples to a similar degree as the average person is above his pet.”
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“Energy alone is not enough to maintain order in the universe, on a planet, in a body, a cell or an atom. That energy must be applied with intelligence.”
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“There is emotional intelligence, intelligence of the higher mind, and spiritual intelligence.”
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“In history those who attempted to rely on God and the scriptures have generally been proven wrong. Why? Because they threw out common sense and reasoning that God gave us to use.”
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“The bottom line is this. If we look for the traditional Christ we will miss the real one for as it is written: “Behold, I do all things new.”
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“Fear is overcome through using the mind to calculate the best possible moves to eliminate the perceived future loss.”
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“One should never use a vow or promise that is written by an outward authority unless it is fully understood and endorsed through considerable reflection.”
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“What awaits us before and after death is the discovery of the truths behind the feeling nature. In the physical world we learn facts about the elements, nations, people, events, culture etc. In the astral world we learn about what we feel about them.”
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Keys Writings, Part 7

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Welcome
Aug 23, 2011

Let me welcome Lori as a new poster. She is not new to the teachings though for she is Duke’s (socioheresy) wife and I have met her several times. They are both very nice people.

Kris points out that that the posts here seem to lean to the right and wants to know if there is room for a liberal.

My answer is, yes, of course. In my first couple years of teaching on the Keys I pretty much stuck to metaphysics and members did not know what my political views were. I would guess at that time that the majority of the members were liberal. Eventually we did discuss politics and it turned out the majority posting anything political seemed to have more conservative views. At present we have a mixture of many political views here, but the most popular is probably libertarian.

When discussing pure metaphysical truth it doesn’t matter much what your political views are. People from all belief systems are looking for higher truth and answers to their many questions, There are not many places where the right and left can merge in a group and calmly talk politics together without insulting each other. We try and do that here.

The strongest arguments in political discussions though have come between me and several here that are not liberal by any means, but in many ways close to my libertarian thinking.

If a liberal here sees an error in thinking or disagrees with something said he or she is surely free to speak up. All we ask is that members stay on the plane of the mind as much as possible.

To insure that things stay fairly civil we do have moderation here. When a person joins he is automatically placed on moderation until we see he is a responsible poster. Then if a member gets out of control or quits and rejoins, he may be placed on moderation again.

You should have been here in the last days of the unmoderated group. The conflict really got to a point of tension and we had to make a change and overall moderation has helped, for the main thing it does is keep the troublemakers away. When they realize they can’t insult people they move on.

Anyway, I hope you feel welcome here.

Dream Book
Aug 23, 2011

I don’t think I ever told the group why I chose red as the dominate color for my books. I first started playing with writing around the age of 16 and I gave a couple things to a good friend to read. Then one day he comes to my place all excited and told me he had a dream about me that seemed very real and significant. He said that in the dream I had written a book that became a blockbuster seller and everyone was talking about it.

I asked him if he saw the title or what it was about.

He said he couldn’t recall the title but did remember it had a bright red cover.

I don’t know if there is anything to his dream but have used the idea of a red cover and plan to keep red prominent in future books.

Re: Book Cover2
Aug 24, 2011

Not only do most of the Keys members like your cover, but so does my wife so that just about seals it up.

JJ

Re: Book Cover2
Aug 24, 2011

Steve writes: Concerning your friend’s dream about a red book of yours becoming a bestseller, perhaps The Immortal is the one but has yet to make its mark. You can’t get much ‘redder’ than that.

Maybe the foundations are still being laid behind the scenes (spiritually speaking). There is something very special about that book.

JJ Yes, I still think that The Immortal could become a best seller if it got the right publicity. That could still be the book in my friend’s dream.

Molecular Art
Aug 24, 2011

Good to hear from you again Viggi.

This must be the artwork you created:

http://www.synthesisnet.com/Art/Triads.jpg

I had forgotten that it was you that designed it.

Mental Plane
Aug 25, 2011

Speaking of Ann Coulter and the mental plane – here is a great example of her intelligent writing on Darwinism. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45747

While checking out this subject I discovered the best article yet on intelligent design. It is lengthy but worth the time to read it. http://spectator.org/archives/2005/08/05/the-little-engine-that-couldun/

It starts out stating:

“IMAGINE A NANOTECHNOLOGY MACHINE far beyond the state of the art: a microminiaturized rotary motor and propeller system that drives a tiny vessel through liquid. The engine and drive mechanism are composed of 40 parts, including a rotor, stator, driveshaft, bushings, universal joint, and flexible propeller. The engine is powered by a flow of ions, can rotate at up to 100,000 rpm (ten times faster than a NASCAR racing engine), and can reverse direction in a quarter of a rotation. The system comes with an automatic feedback control mechanism. The engine itself is about 1/100,000th of an inch wide — far smaller than can be seen by the human eye.

“Most of us would be pleasantly surprised to learn that some genius had designed such an engineering triumph. What might come as a greater surprise is that there is a dominant faction in the scientific community that is prepared to defend, at all costs, the assertion that this marvelous device could not possibly have been designed, must have been produced blindly by unintelligent material forces, and only gives the appearance — we said appearance! — of being designed.”

Then I had to laugh at the author’s description of non believers stereotype of believers in intelligent design:

“Among certain sectors of the media, for example, it’s an article of faith that those who believe in God, or advocate principles supporting that belief, are just a mob of Bible-thumping, knuckle-dragging, Scripture-spouting, hellfire and brimstone-preaching, rightwing, gun-toting, bigoted, homophobic, moralistic, paternalistic, polyester-wearing, mascara-smeared, false-eyelashed, SUV-driving, Wal-Mart shopping, big hair, big gut, fat butt, holy-rolling, snake-handling, Limbaugh-listening, Bambi-shooting, trailer-park-dwelling, uneducated, ignorant, backwater, hayseed, hick, inbred, pinhead rubes — mostly from the South, or places no better than the South — who voted for Bush.”

That sentence is a masterpiece in description.

Re: Sharón prophecies from 26 June 2011
Aug 25, 2011

Ruth writes: JJ I have not read anywhere in your teachings about this point about Judas that Sharón mentioned:

“Northern India will produce proof that Judas Iscariot did not betray Jesus but a guy with a similar name… Authorities attempted to change the story by rewriting that one of Jesus’ own disciples betrayed him in an attempt to discredit Christ. The new books will expose their illusion.”

Any clarification on that?

Judas was like the one chosen to betray Jesus, from my understanding.

JJ Variations on the idea that the disciple Judas did not betray Christ has been around since the days of early Christianity.

I believe the betrayal as portrayed in the gospels is fairly accurate. This is also supported in the Gospel of the Nazirenes, believed to be the earliest gospel, and the Aquarian Gospel.

I am not infallible so there is nothing wrong with members having another opinion.

Re: Mental Plane
Aug 25, 2011

JJ posted: Among certain sectors of the media, for example, it’s an article of faith that those who believe in God, or advocate principles supporting that belief, are just a mob of Bible-thumping, knuckle-dragging, Scripture-spouting, hellfire and brimstone-preaching, rightwing, gun-toting, bigoted, homophobic, moralistic, paternalistic, polyester-wearing, mascara-smeared, false-eyelashed, SUV-driving, Wal-Mart shopping, big hair, big gut, fat butt, holy-rolling, snake-handling, Limbaugh-listening, Bambi-shooting, trailer-park-dwelling, uneducated, ignorant, backwater, hayseed, hick, inbred, pinhead rubes — mostly from the South, or places no better than the South — who voted for Bush.”

That sentence is a masterpiece in description.

The Majority Speaks
Aug 26, 2011

Larry Woods passed through Boise a couple weeks ago and he, Lorraine and I had breakfast together. He was excited about starting a chapter of The Majority Speaks in his area and he asked me what project we should pick to push. He was thinking of something like, “No taxes on the internet.”

We didn’t have much time and I wasn’t able to give him a complete answer so I thought I would add a few details here.

The first problem Larry or others have to deal with is that I have not yet started the central organization here in Boise. I plan on doing this after the book is published and not before. I’ll have a lot more clout with influencing people when I can present myself as the author of a unique political book.

When I begin the organization the first goal will not be to implement one of the 95 points, but to gather and organize groups in order to garner sufficient power to create change. If we only have a handful of members and attempt to change national policy and attitudes then we are doomed to failure.

The first step is to gather enough laborers so we have a chance to become a center of influence.

Now, if Larry or someone else wants to get started early I would suggest that he seek to gather people around him that are interested in some of the 95 theses or points I made as well as participating in a more direct democracy. He could organize this like a study class and invite in guest political speakers. There are many in the political arena who like to speak and many looking for interesting speakers.

Larry reminded me of my teaching that we need to concentrate on one thing at a time rather than scattering our energies and wanted me to name one of the 95 points in which to begin.

I don’t plan on pushing any one of the 95 points at the beginning (except to group members) but will concentrate on teaching the groups the basic idea that people can create change and have a strong influence on how our politicians vote.

As the group grows we will use our influence to encourage members to create activists groups centered around the 95 points. Ideally a group created around this idea would pick only one of the points so their energy can be concentrated. I see the main purpose of the initiating group would be to promote direct democracy and encourage the adaptation of the 95 points.

If this project becomes successful it is bound to draw attention to my other writings. This is likely to lead to some controversy, which may turn out to be a good thing.

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 26, 2011

I haven’t changed my mind on the one thing at a time approach but to influence an issue takes a lot of money and manpower. Since we will not have that on start-up the one thing we will be teaching group members is about their own power and motivating them to use it. Group members may go several different directions with their own “one thing” which we will support if it makes sense.

Once we have the manpower to influence legislation then we’ll examine the field to see what the next best one thing will be – probably implementing Molecular Politics.

JJ

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 26, 2011

Blayne: Sorry I couldn’t help but chuckle at the irony of a central organization promoting direct democracy 😉

JJ I don’t see the irony. There are central organizations in any endeavor. Not much can happen without them.

Blayne It sort of speaks to where we are as a people. I see the free market as the ultimate direct democracy

JJ I am a big promoter of the free market but don’t see it as having much to do with democracy, but a result of democracy. The free market does not elect a President or Congress, but a democracy can.

Blayne: if you will but the majority of people still need some central authority and refuse to claim their full rights to individual self determination and self government as long as they are harming no one.

JJ It sounds like you want to throw out the Constitution and have no president or Congress, or even state legislators. Perhaps you could clarify as I have a hard time thinking you believe this.

Even in an entirely free market you have strong central authorities created. If you start a business and hire twelve people you are then their central authority and have life and death power over their jobs, which can put the fear of God in them.

Blayne One of the main problems is the majority of people accept the idea the government or central authority has a right to intervene in almost every aspect of the individuals or groups lives. I doubt direct democracy will cure this wrong belief.

JJ It wouldn’t cure the problem, but the majority believe the government is too intrusive and that is a starting point.

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 26, 2011

The issues I see us dealing with are those that naturally evolve which is normally one main issue at a time. The last main issue was raising the debt ceiling. The one before that was the Health Care Bill. As these issues come to the forefront we can take majority opinion beliefs that make sense and offer solutions.

To take an issue and force it on the public consciousness as happened with the Health Care bill would cost billions of dollars. By taking something already in the public’s concern we save a giant costly step.

When the organization becomes large and powerful it can then introduce ideas for change that are not already in the front pages.

One thing that is coming before the public more is the changing of the Constitution by either adding amendments or a Constitutional Convention. We’ll have to watch this and see where it goes. JJ

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 27, 2011

Blayne The free market is the purist form of democracy WITH NO CENTRAL AUTHORITY! Just people voting with their feet or wallets deciding market trends demand etc. period.

JJ I’ve never heard the free market where people vote with their feet called a democracy before. Everyone I have ever seen write about it just calls it a free market or capitalism for there are no ballots and you elect no people to represent you. It appears you have an unusual personal definition of democracy.

The terms, democracy, republic, monarchy etc usually have to do with government rather than business.

Quoting JJ I don’t see the irony. There are central organizations in any endeavor. Not much can happen without them.

Blayne Really? Seriously? Read my explanation to Dan above…

JJ I still don’t get it.

Blayne Wow… So you don’t see people VOTING with their feet and wallets in a free market as having anything to do with democracy?

JJ People are voting with their feet in China as far as business goes but they do not have a democracy or close to it. Business is business and politics is politics – two different animals.

Blayne: The free market does not need to elect a congress it allows people to decide for themselves.

JJ No one said they needed to elect a Congress.

Quoting JJ Even in an entirely free market you have strong central authorities created. If you start a business and hire twelve people you are then their central authority and have life and death power over their jobs, which can put the fear of God in them.

Blayne You certainly have a strange view of a free market. There are no central authorities in an entirely free market.

JJ So are you saying that your version of the free market will have no bosses or owners who are the central authorities in their business??? It sounds like you think a free market will not create any business larger than one person.

As long as you allow the freedom for people to own their business and hire people you will have central authorities created. The central authority is called the “boss” or maybe just “the owner,” or “president.”

I am really curious about clarification here as I cannot imagine the existence of any substantial business without a central authority whether in or out of a free society.

The Majority Speaks
Aug 27, 2011

The problem that the debate has evolved into (as it often does) is that we have veered away from the original argument and Blayne and Larry are arguing against something I never said – something with which I agree.

Yes a free market where people vote with their feet loosely uses the democratic principle. That is not part of any argument. On this we agree.

However in order to communicate it is good to use words as they are currently defined and rarely would anyone call Walmart a democracy. They call it a business. Yes, people do make it successful by voting with their feet.

Here are three popular definitions of the word Democracy and a business doesn’t fit any of them:

▸ noun: the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives ▸ noun: a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them ▸ noun: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group

That said let us get back to the real disagreement rather than arguing that with which we agree.

The problem started with Blayne quoting me as follows:

“The first problem Larry or others have to deal with is that I have not yet started the central organization here in Boise… I see the main purpose of the initiating group would be to promote direct democracy…”

It appeared to me that Blayne thought that any central organization or central authority was completely unnecessary for he responded:

“I see the free market as the ultimate direct democracy if you will but the majority of people still need some central authority and refuse to claim their full rights to individual self determination and self government as long as they are harming no one. Many people see this as chaos however it really does not preclude group work it just makes it all voluntary instead of coerced and forced by government or central authority.”

JJ This sounded like you disagreed with my plan to create a central authority in the planned political organization and I responded as follows:

“Even in an entirely free market you have strong central authorities created. If you start a business and hire twelve people you are then their central authority and have life and death power over their jobs, which can put the fear of God in them.”

Then in your responses following you seemed to disagree with this, bringing in the idea of businesses voting with their feet which had nothing to do with the disagreement.

So, here seems to be the point of disagreement.

I believe that it is unavoidable to have a central authority in almost any successful enterprise.

If you have a successful business with 30 employees that is participating in the free market then that business will have an owner/president that will be a central authority. If you have a crew of twelve then a manager will be a central authority to the twelve.

If you have a Masonic lodge, a church, a charity or anything organized you will have some presiding central authority giving it structure and purpose. It is as DK says – “All is hierarchy.”

You seem to disagree with me on this and think that if we just have a free-for-all then churches will not need pastors, business will not need managers or owners, lodges will not need presidents but everything will just move ahead with no organization necessary or central authorities at all.

I think the Second Key of Judgment is the key to understanding here. Strong central government governmental authority that strictly governs lives and does now allow any freedom to make decisions on levels below it are indeed terrible and tyrannical. This is one extreme. But the other extreme is also destructive where no central authority would exist in the various organizations.

Central authorities in organizations that people are free to reject by leaving or voting the guy out are essential and no civilization in the history of earth has been without them.

I am amazed that my stand on this obvious point has caused such disagreement.

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 27, 2011
I made a typo or two that needed correction. Disregard my previous post and read this.

The problem that the debate has evolved into (as it often does) is that we have veered away from the original argument and Blayne and Larry are arguing against something I never said – something with which I agree.

Yes a free market where people vote with their feet loosely uses the democratic principle. That is not part of any argument. On this we agree.

However in order to communicate it is good to use words as they are currently defined and rarely would anyone call Walmart a democracy. They call it a business. Yes, people do make it successful by voting with their feet.

Here are three popular definitions of the word Democracy and a business doesn’t fit any of them:

▸ noun: the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives ▸ noun: a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them ▸ noun: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group

That said let us get back to the real disagreement rather than arguing that with which we agree.

The problem started with Blayne quoting me as follows:

“The first problem Larry or others have to deal with is that I have not yet started the central organization here in Boise… I see the main purpose of the initiating group would be to promote direct democracy…”

It appeared to me that Blayne thought that any central organization or central authority was completely unnecessary for he responded:

“I see the free market as the ultimate direct democracy if you will but the majority of people still need some central authority and refuse to claim their full rights to individual self determination and self government as long as they are harming no one. Many people see this as chaos however it really does not preclude group work it just makes it all voluntary instead of coerced and forced by government or central authority.”

JJ This sounded like you disagreed with my plan to create a central authority in the planned political organization and I responded as follows:

“Even in an entirely free market you have strong central authorities created. If you start a business and hire twelve people you are then their central authority and have life and death power over their jobs, which can put the fear of God in them.”

Then in your responses following you seemed to disagree with this, bringing in the idea of businesses voting with their feet which had nothing to do with the disagreement.

So, here seems to be the point of disagreement.

I believe that it is unavoidable to not have a central authority in almost any successful enterprise.

If you have a successful business with 30 employees that is participating in the free market then that business will have an owner/president that will be a central authority. If you have a crew of twelve then a manager will be a central authority to the twelve.

If you have a Masonic lodge, a church, a charity or anything organized you will have some presiding central authority giving it structure and purpose. It is as DK says – “All is hierarchy.”

You seem to disagree with me on this and think that if we just have a free-for-all then churches will not need pastors, business will not need managers or owners, lodges will not need presidents but everything will just move ahead with no organization necessary or central authorities at all.

I think the Second Key of Judgment is the key to understanding here. Strong central government governmental authority that strictly governs lives from which there is no escape and does now allow any freedom to make decisions on levels below it are indeed terrible and tyrannical. This is one extreme. But the other extreme is also destructive where no central authority would exist in the various organizations and you have a free-for-all instead.

Central authorities in organizations that people are free to reject by leaving that organization or voting the guy out are essential and no civilization in the history of earth has been without them.

I am amazed that my stand on this obvious point has caused such disagreement.

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 27, 2011

Wow, Blayne, you have my head spinning. At first I thought you disagreed with me that a central authority was necessary for groups and organizations – now I am not sure so I do not know where to approach or clarify.

If you can point to any disagreement so I can understand then I will seek to clarify my position. If we agree then we can move on.

There is one specific thing you said to which I take issue. You say: “The definition of central authority is the anti-thesis to direct democracy.”

Now in a democracy as defined by the dictionary (not speaking of a loosely used principle) a leader is elected and then that leader becomes a central authority to the group. I see no irony here.

Even in a business where people vote with their feet a central authority exists within that business. This is something that just always happens so I do not see the irony if you’re thinking irony-odd. If you’re thinking irony because two opposites are involved in creation then I can see your point, but then a marriage would also be ironic.

Re: The Majority Speaks
Aug 27, 2011

I don’t personally see the irony between democracy of any kind and central authority that develops in organizations that spring up in a free society because it makes sense to me but I see where you are coming from.

The irony thing alone would not have been enough to make me respond to your post. The reason I responded is because you said, “The definition of central authority is the anti-thesis to direct democracy.

My point was no matter whether you have a direct democracy, a representative democracy or any other type of government you will have various central authorities spring up. They will be created in business, groups, clubs churches – anything with an organization.

Even in the direct democracy I advocate there will be various central authorities spring up – “ironically” as you say, even in the group promoting such an endeavor. A Senator or Representative, even though he shares the vote, will be somewhat of a central authority as the manager to his co-legislators. He decides how to handle the committees he is in, what legislation he wants to introduce, what materials and information to make available and doesn’t have to take counsel as to how to do his job in mixing with the senate – except when it comes to voting on essential issues. He’s the central figure co-legislators look to for assistance and direction and has powers given to him by his office that voters do not have.

Blayne: Their (businesses) central authority is limited to their business and has nothing to do with the democracy of the free market.

JJ But these central authorities in business will spring from a free market and be stronger than in a dictatorship. In a dictatorship the power of the business owner is diminished or even shared by the state. In a free market the business has one strong central authority – the owner/president etc.

I don’t see how we can possibly disagree on something so basic. I think when I say “central, authority” you must visualize an omnipotent Big Brother controlling all things in the country and that was far from my mind.

I agree with what you said about business being little dictatorships and pointed that out in my treatise on the Molecular Business, which seeks to incorporate more democratic principles into business giving the employees more participation and to diminish the dictatorial powers of the bosses.

 

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To Ruth With Love
Aug 20, 2011

Ruth: Maybe the only real mistake I made was that I attacked what I saw as Illusion in people’s posts, which in turn, made them feel uneasy and they saw me in a bad light.

JJ I think this is a mistake you have been making. When you see illusion in what others are saying it is not wise to point it out each time you see it. I point out maybe 10-20% of the illusion I see going on. If I were to point it all out then I would be seen as very obnoxious. In addition to this there is always the chance the person pointing out the illusion is in more illusion than the one being pointed to.

The second key of judgment is crucial here.

Ruth: However, if over the years in my endeavor to travel this path of discipleship and challenge other’s illusions etc, I have hurt some people’s feelings, then I do truly apologize. Yes, I am not perfect. Yes, I have attacked some people who have come to this group only to hurt the credentials of JJ’s teachings

JJ I haven’t seen any supporter complain about that. If someone comes here with guns blazing then they are asking for it.

Ruth and Yes I can sound very blunt when I write, but at least I still have a fire in my heart and I am not that cold and unfeeling.

JJ No one has ever accused you of being cold and unfeeling so why bring this up? I think all realize you have a fire in your heart.

Ruth because I try to use my mental body as well. Using the mental body and working from that realm, does not mean that one then becomes unfeeling.

JJ Being polarized in the mental body has nothing to do with whether or not one has feelings for we all do. It means your decisions are made there.

Ruth Yes I can seem pushy. Yes, I have hit back when others hit me, but does this really detract away from who I am and what I want to achieve for the BOL? Obviously, for a select few of you here, it does.

JJ Actually, it does have an effect if you see yourself as a monitor of illusion and never let an illusion or error from someone else pass you by. Since you have been posting much more than anyone else you have a responsibility to use good judgment so that sincere seekers are not irritated or feel uncomfortable.

Ruth: Apparently, some here are that crystallized in looking only at my personality, that obviously JJ’s teachings have not sunk into their minds that well so far on seeing PAST the personality.

JJ This paragraph is an example of you making a judgment and somewhat irritating statement that can turn readers off. You are making the negative judgment that a number of members (apparently those who disagree with you) are crystallized and looking at your personality rather than your soul. My writings have not sunk in and they see only the past. This is pretty harsh and there is little evidence that it is even true. The worst part of it is that you see yourself as being virtuously honest rather than harshly judgmental when you make statements like this.

I think you need to stand back and monitor your effect on others and try and see your responsibility on the matter and then seek to be more harmless.

Ruth: Now after some contemplation over the past few days, I am going to have my say to JJ and Dan’s posts, as harmless as possible, because to some degree, I do feel like I was put through the Inquisition again.

JJ I think your imagination is running wild here. There has been some mild criticism and disagreement with you but it has been far from an inquisition, except in your mind.

Ruth: Yes I wanted to “force your hand”. You need to address some of these issues with your members or best friends sometimes JJ. Being mentally polarized does not mean one can sweep any emotional issues with friends under the carpet.

JJ I do not get involved every time someone feels emotional about something. This applies to my personal life as well as my online life. If I did I would never feel any peace. I only get involved when either my emotions or the well being of the group is substantially effected.

The time when sweeping emotions under the rug is negative is when it is a persons own emotions are effected and need to be dealt with and I do this when my emotions warrant it. I do not govern myself by what is decreed by the emotions of others, however. Have no power to sweep other people’s emotions under the rug.

Quoting JJ: You have always been oversensitive when the slightest criticism of you surfaces.

Ruth: Maybe that is because I am a woman? What you see as “oversensitive” is merely me expressing my true feelings and I deal with those feelings also. Maybe it would help if some men here got back in touch with their emotional/feminine side sometimes also? If I was that oversensitive I would have left the group ten years ago when I was verbally attacked by some of the members here in the Triads.

JJ You have left the group a number of times and did leave the Triads and it has little to do with you being a woman. Both males and females are sensitive to criticism and both sexes need to have a thick skin to be invoked in group endeavor. It is true that females are more grounded in emotion but both sexes have a difficult time with criticism.

Ruth I do not want to be commended. What I want is for some people to stop insinuating that I have constantly turned away people from this group with my posts. This is another lie.

JJ I’m sure I have turned people off being here myself so what makes you so sure you have not? Why do you think this is a lie when some tell you otherwise? Instead of dismissing this perhaps you ought to reflect on your own blind spots – you think you see them in me – perhaps you have them too.

Ruth: Only about 20% of my posts were attacking. Maybe I do not handle 1st Ray energy too well, but at least I tried to get a point across that I thought was going to help other people. JJ Sometimes I’m sure you did help people, but sometimes you have irritated them. When you get negative feedback, instead of dismissing it, you should examine it to see if there is any truth there.

Quoting JJ: My approach here and on the Sealed Portion has been the same. Sometimes when you have stood up for me either here or there I think you are doing a great job and other times I feel a little uncomfortable with your zeal. Then there are times you make mistakes about my thinking and I will correct you.

Ruth: Why didn’t you immediately point out to me when I made you feel a little uncomfortable, rather than say nothing about it until now?

JJ Because the few times I have given any criticism to you in the past has caused a very strong emotional reaction and you either threaten to quit the group or do quit for a time. I then wind up spending a lot of time going back and forth as we are now – for as you can see the mild criticism I gave you the other day has caused a strong reaction again. I therefore concluded that I will hold off criticizing you unless it completely necessary.

Ruth: Yet you would not stand up for me over here? Interesting, considering how many times I am criticized in this group.

JJ If people in the group give mild criticism of each other I usually do not get involved. Most of the criticism directed at you and others has been quite mild and often represents sincere feelings. Many of your criticisms also have been mild and I did see the need to get involved.

If I got involved every time there was a criticism here I would have time to do nothing else.

For me to comment on a criticism that is not directed at me it has to either disrupt the group or be outrageously untrue.

Ruth By implying to all your other students here that I had “endless” conflicts with John Crane also creates a negative view about me and my posts, and I thought that you would be above that. However, maybe you too, need to learn to choose your words more carefully when dealing with other people who have stood by you for many years.

JJ Yet when some tell you that you need to choose your words more carefully the situations becomes a full blown crises. Do you see me becoming highly offended because of this criticism that you just gave me? I could interpret it to mean that I should sit down and shut up.

Ruth: So instead of looking at the positives in my post, you guys skip over the most important part where I said “how can we get this book out into the public eye”, which surely is more important that what cover is on the front?

JJ When you accused the group of bickering – when they were not – this was insulting and this overshadowed anything you said afterwards. 99% of the people are affected this way when accused of something of which they feel not guilty.

Ruth; Why did you design a cover and then suggest that we have input? Isn’t that a bit back to front? That is like cooking us a dinner and then saying “what do you want to eat for dinner”?

JJ You’re criticizing me again! Maybe I’ll go ballistic.

No. It’s not like that. It’s like inviting people over for a dinner that is not ye cooked, but only planned (the book is not published yet). Then you get a sense that the guests are not happy with the meal so you ask them if the planned Pizza is okay or perhaps something else. Then a friend volunteers to make us ribeye steaks and we decide to go with that.

Ruth Logically if you wanted our input as a group, wouldn’t you have asked us first about a cover, rather than when it has been drawn up? That is what I was questioning? Is that too much of an attack question?

JJ Who in the world said you couldn’t ask a question.

I can’t ask what you think about a cover until I have a cover to show you. Because it is my book I decided to create a cover I liked. I have a perfect right to do this. However, we all want the book to succeed and if I get a strong response that another cover would work better I am open to this.

Ruth: Just because I mistakenly wrote “bickering” rather than “debating”, I am then berated by Dan and have false accusations made about me by Dan, and yet, you allow this also. Why? Because of freedom of speech?

JJ You really sound like a victim here. I suggest you rise above this mentality as it does not serve you well.

You dished out criticism and got some back and I am supposed to take sides. I do not do this unless the offense is egregious or someone presenting a definite falsehood.

Rob reamed Blayne with many times the intensity as anything you have received and he took it pretty good without lashing back.

Ruth: Is there really freedom of speech here? I do not think so. Socio has already said to me in a private email, that if I do not.

JJ What in the world does private emails have to do with your free speech here, especially concerning those who are not moderated? You say you do not have free speech because you have to watch your every word. Well, I have to watch my every word much more than you and do not see myself as being a victim without free speech and neither should you. This is a totally unjustified complaint.

Ruth (BTW, all I wrote to Socio was that Dan should stop sucking up JJ’s arse)!

JJ You must have missed the conflict Dan and I had over Eckhart Tolle which was anything but him sucking up.

Quoting JJ: It is true he could have been more diplomatic, but he responded there in a similar manner as you probably would have if the shoe was on the other foot.

RJ: This is another falsehood JJ and I cannot believe you of all people said this about me. I have NEVER said to another member here to sit back and shut up,

JJ You’re interpreting too much in black and white here. I didn’t mean you would respond in the exact same words, but in a similar manner. You just accused Dan of being a suck-up, which was just as negative.

Ruth: You do not scold Dan ever? You do not scold anyone that is your favorite old time member. You have plenty to say to me though about me always being on the “attack”.

JJ I haven’t criticized you for quite a while. Can you remember the last time I did (before the current conflict)? I can’t remember the last time I scolded anyone here. I try to avoid scolding.

I remind the group as a whole of the rules once in a while but these posts re for all.

Ruth: Maybe it is your fault for people leaving this group because you are the one who had the power to put me on permanent moderation for ten years, so that I never could offend anyone in the group ever, and so no one would leave. You could have shut my posts down years ago, if my “attacking” posts were that damaging, but you let me continue on with my defensiveness over you and with my apparent “brow beating”. So who is really at fault here?

JJ: First, I have never said your posts are “damaging.” We are having this conversation because you have had negative interplay with others besides myself.

Yes, I could have placed you on moderation but I didn’t think you warranted it. I take full responsibility for you not having been on moderation.

Since you have quit the group and signed back on you are automatically on moderation for a time (as are all who do this). For a time, I may give you advice on some of your posts before they are approved in the hope that your relationships here may improve.

Quoting JJ: Have I not given you enough pats on the back? Is that the problem here?

RJ: This statement is unnecessarily sarcastic. So this is the example I am to follow in your footsteps when I post in the future, yes?

JJ Fine with me. I wouldn’t find this type of talk offensive.

Ruth Where did I write in my post that I wanted pats on the back also?

JJ You have complained numerous times in this post (and previously) that I have favorites that do not include you. Obviously, I give them pats on the back and not you. Why else would you complain about my (imaginary) favorites unless you feel cheated out of pats on the back?

Ruth

When some people here are making it seem that nearly all of my past posts to the group have been damaging.

JJ I do not think anyone here thinks “nearly all” your posts have been damaging.

Ruth:

Think again. I used to get encouragement for attacking back sometimes by you on the SP. You used to attack people on that political posting group in Boise that you were on. Why is that okay for you to do, but not me?

JJ I encourage putting someone in their place if they attack with guns blazing, but when we are among friends then we should treat them as friendly as possible. I see all those here who post regularly as my friends as well as most of the lurkers.

Quoting JJ: When someone disagrees with you, you need to ask yourself how you can respond in such a way that you appear poised and unruffled and in control of your emotions.

Ruth: Like I am doing now? Like I have done many times over the past ten years in most of my posts? 80% of the time I am in control of my emotions, but because I am a woman, I am always seen as being overtly emotional or oversensitive when I write something that you men don’t want to hear or do not like. Maybe it’s that old Mormon upbringing that I do not clearly understand? How are the women treated in Mormonville? See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil?

JJ There you go again, insulting us guys by lumping us in with old school Mormons or fundamentalists. Normally, I would overlook this but since I am trying guide you to group harmony I am pointing this out.

Ruth: So do you always expect me to have such negative come backs?

JJ Always? You know better than that, but when someone gives an attack on you or posts illusion you often let then have it.

Ruth: No wonder your friends would prefer me to leave the group than stay here then..

JJ No one has said this that I know of. There you go playing the victim again.

Ruth: I am not playing the victim. You always use this excuse for those of us who see things a bit differently than you do.

JJ I don’t think so.

Ruth There are always enemies of God in this World. Maybe you should have pointed this out to me ten years ago, that I should only appear as a friendly little Queen, with no emotions,

JJ The problem here is going over your head. It has nothing to do with the fact that you have emotions. We all have emotions. You just have to read over your posts before sending them and use good judgment to make sure they do not insult anyone and are as harmless as possible.

Ruth: Did you not teach that a more mental person has to step back down into his emotional body to deal with other emotional people? I see Dan as emotional when he criticizes. Does that mean he is oversensitive also?

JJ Is it possible you are wrong about Dan? Think about it.

Quoting JJ There’s a lot of good things said and done here that receive no pats on the back. If I gave to everyone who deserved then I would be giving out so many they would be meaningless.

RJ: There are not 400 members posting here, so your pats on the back to the few who do post should at least be equal.

JJ Anyone who expects equal pats on the back for all will surely be disappointed for all are different with different talents and write on different subjects.

Ruth: For example. “Good point, Larry”, or “Good point, Judes”, or “Good point, Blayne”. So far, it is only “Good point, Dan” that you usually point out. I guess that is because Dan thinks like you do?

JJ You say you do not want pats on the back but you seem obsessed with pats on the back. Maybe some self-inspection is in order. I have given you compliments but it appears, not enough.

Ruth: Not everyone treats me as a friend here and that is to be expected. I can’t please everyone in life. We all form various friendships in life, and some more than others. My personality may repulse some here, so that they do not even want me on their friend list, and that is okay also.

JJ I think you are creating a bogyman here and if you do some minor fine-tuning of your wording then all here will suddenly seem friendly.

Ruth: Question: If your wife got emotional or upset at you, do you tell her to just let go of the astral stuff and come up higher and enjoy her time with you?

JJ Maybe not that same wording but something similar.

Ruth Is this how we are supposed to deal with our emotional conflicts and issues? That is not what you have taught.

JJ I believe we are supposed to deal with each situation with judgment to the best of our ability. I believe that you have not made certain corrections because you see yourself as having advanced beyond the astral and I thought that word would get your attention and maybe cause some introspection.

To be offended so easily is caused by astral thinking, but if you think you have risen above it, or only sink to it because of a mental decision, then you may not take the steps you need to escape the astral influence.

Ruth: We have to lay our cards on the table in a harmless manner. However some here, have various views on what defines harmless and what isn’t harmless, and now they have portrayed me as harmful in all my posts, rather than just some of my past posts.

JJ Again, I do not recall anyone saying all your posts are harmful. You are coming across as the victim again. I know you think that you do not see yourself as a victim, but you really come across that way and it would really help your relationship with many in the group if you did not project this image.

The second thing you could do to aid in your group relationships is to not concentrate on correcting illusion or mistakes of those friendly to the group. Instead just concentrate on making posts with good usable information and opinion.

I hope I haven’t hurt your feelings with this post as I value you highly as a member of the Keys and glad to see you progressing in knowledge. As always, I look forward to a long and productive relationship.

Re: Guns Blazing
Aug 20, 2011

No, Blayne would not be classified as “guns blazing” for he is here to sincerely contribute. He merely disagreed and that is fine. As a mater of fact I posted a complimentary note about how well he handled being ganged up on but it seemed to have gotten lost in the ethers.

We haven’t had too many guns blazing posters since we have been on moderation. The Benjamin Creme disciple was one as well as that unauthorized Dahesh disciple a while back. When there was no moderation we had Paul and Zia who seemed to only be here to set me straight. Others have come on making insults but they do not last long.

Overall the moderation program has helped a lot to stabilize the list. Now our main distraction is when a faithful member takes us temporarily off track.

Comments on Ruth
Aug 21, 2011

I thought I would make a few comments concerning the recent conflict.

Ruth has been my biggest defender as well as posting on the Keys more than any other member including myself.

Because of the recent conflict I would guess she feels that all this dedication she has demonstrated is not appreciated. I want to make it clear that she is appreciated. Many times over the years she has either defended me, the teachings, or just the plain truth and this has been very helpful and appreciated. Then there are a number of times she has been overzealous and rubbed a few the wrong way. Does this mean she is a failure and not appreciated?

No. Of course not. It means she is human with flaws and rough edges just like the rest of us.

Does it mean she should resign from the group (which she has) so she will no longer be any bother to us?

No. This is the line of least resistance – the easy path that doesn’t help the disciple to move to his next step.

What would I recommend she do then?

The same thing I have recommended to numerous seekers who have tread the path a few steps and then want to retreat because they step on a thorn. You cannot get to the path’s destination if you do not continue on the path and surmount the obstacles on the way.

Ruth has encountered an obstacle. Forget whether or not the problem is her fault or someone elses. It is now up to her to examine the obstacle and solve it so she can continue treading the path with joy.

The inclination of the seeker on hearing this advice is to say there are many paths to the same goal and he or she is just going to withdraw, do something different and maybe take a different path.

This seems the easy way out, but it is not. The reason is that the obstacle that is before her now will come back with a vengeance if she takes a new path. She has to begin at the beginning of a new path and while treading it will encountering the same obstacle again. Solving it will take much longer than if she just continues here and solves what is in front of her now.

Her recent conversation with Dan tells us that progress is here just waiting to be made.

Ruth is family here but all does not always run smooth with family relationships. Some family members irritate me now and then but I still love them and look forward to seeing them at family gatherings. Even so, I am sure I speak for all when I say that Ruth will be welcome back whenever she wants to join us again.

Book Cover2
Aug 21, 2011
Here are two variations of Steve’s book cover. Let me know what you think and which one you like best.

http://www.synthesisnet.com/Art/FACover.jpg

Re: The Five Tibetans
Aug 22, 2011

A while back Larry posted a video on some exercises that are supposed to restore a person to his youth. Here is the reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLKhvsfQKc&feature=related

Then Dan found a booklet on it for us to download. You can find it here. http://www.4shared.com/document/k64kgTLp/18994324-The-Eye-of-Revelation.htm

The theory is that the exercises stimulate the spin of the centers which slow down with age. The idea is that when we obtain the spin we had in our youth that we will grow younger.

It sounded pretty good so I decided to give it a try. You start with three repetitions and increase three a week until you get to the twenty-one.

I’ve finally got to the 21 repetitions so I thought I would give this a report.

I’m not sure if I am growing younger yet but 21 repetitions of the five exercises really gives you a workout where you need it and works a variety of muscles, especially the abdominal area.

I used to do yoga regularly many years ago but quit when I got too busy. I wish now I hadn’t because any yoga type exercises are good for you.

To the five exercises I have added my favorite yoga one which I am glad I have not lost the ability to do. This is the headstand. It’s fairly easy to do the wrong way where you put pressure on your head. This is an example of the wrong way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bl756LV6uM&NR=1 You can damage your neck if you stand directly on your head.

Here is me in my restored youthful body doing it the right way:

Okay. I admit that’s not me, but give me a while.

This guy does the exercise right in that he places his head in his arms and they take all the impact. Using this method one can do a headstand on a cement floor without harm.

This takes a little practice to achieve but it is exhilarating when you do and supplies good nourishment to the brain cells.

 

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Friction Among Friends
Aug 15, 2011

When my friends have friction between themselves I attempt to not take sides unless someone’s does something quite egregious. My plan in this case was to just let the interplay do its job and work itself out while I concentrate on other things, but this last post by Ruth kind of forced my hand, as I believe some of her statements need some comment.

Ruth: I am going to get it all of my chest, once and for all.

Now I have tried to change my writing style many times over the past few years to suit those here who are easily offended, and still I am called a brow beater etc. no matter how I write. Please Note: I do not write things with the intention of brow beating.

JJ It appears to me that your approach and writing style in dealing with others has been pretty much the same over the years. You have always been oversensitive when the slightest criticism of you surfaces. This has not changed and because of this perhaps your efforts in between criticisms have not been noticed as you desire. When you talk of metaphysics, however, you have displayed an increase in knowledge and it is obvious that you have been doing a lot of thinking. You are to be commended on this.

Ruth: However, when I stuck up for JJ on the Sealed Portion group, he seemed to be okay about how forceful I was in my defense of him and his teachings?

JJ My approach here and on the Sealed Portion has been the same. Sometimes when you have stood up for me either here or there I think you are doing a great job and other times I feel a little uncomfortable with your zeal. Then there are times you make mistakes about my thinking and I will correct you.

I am criticized more on the Sealed Portion list so standing up for me there is probably more helpful.

Ruth So perhaps I have become confused over the years between the approach that I took there on how I initially attacked what I saw as illusion in people’s posts (I was not attacking the people personally), compared to how I attack illusion here, and because I could be that way on the SP group and it was okay with JJ, so when I write on here to some degree in the same way, then it is intimidating to some people who are his closest friends and that’s a No No.

JJ I don’t see much difference in your interactions between the posting here and on the Sealed Portion. You have had endless conflicts with John Crane there and some with a few others. That group is not nearly as active as this one so a comparison is a little like apples and oranges.

Ruth BTW, see how easy it is to defend JJ? When I defended him, I was called his clone and called a blind follower.

JJ Some called you this at the Sealed Portion. I do not recall it happening here.

Ruth Yet he allows men in this group to attack me in front of everyone else, and he says nothing. I have seen this happening for some time in this group. The men are allowed to be emotional or call people names etc, but the minute I do anything that even smacks of emotionalism, I am the one they come after.

JJ We have a thing here called freedom of speech. I do nor allow or not allow. Those who are not moderated can say what they want. You’ve done your share of attacking and others attack you. If I were to condemn all who are participating in the conflict I would have time for nothing else.

You started the ball of attack rolling when you said: “I would rather see the book a best seller instead of bickering over it’s cover. How can we as a group get this book out there into the public eye, rather than sit here and debate how the cover is too loud etc?”

Some interpreted this as an attack on the whole group for merely giving their opinion that I had asked for. They do not see themselves as “bickering” over the cover. This type of lecturing just rubs some people the wrong way.

To this Dan responded: “Maybe you should think about sitting down, shutting up and just letting others express themselves without all the browbeating ”

It is true he could have been more diplomatic, but he responded there in a similar manner as you probably would have if the shoe was on the other foot.

True I could have stepped in and done some scolding, but it would have just added fuel to the fire on both sides.

Ruth I truly understand that JJ has to distance himself from the inner conflicts of emotionalism here.

JJ I don’t think you do or you wouldn’t complain about me not stepping in.

Ruth: Playing favorites is not balancing the energies or dynamics of the group. I don’t think he is even aware that he does it. It’s called a blind spot, yes?

JJ You might ask yourself why you are the only one who thinks I am playing favorites – that I unjustly pat others on the back while ignoring you.

I do not believe this to be true and I would guess that most here feel the same way.

Have I not given you enough pats on the back? Is that the problem here?

I am always on the lookout for good things being said here and I know I’ve said numerous good things about you from time to time.

On the other hand, there are many good things said and done here that I just do not have time to comment on – like the group fast and Song that shows so much initiative. Often my positive comments to others come not because they had the best post but because their comments were going in the direction I was thinking.

Ruth I have poured my heart and soul into this group, regardless of how others have treated me over the years.

JJ I know you have and you are appreciated. Also your daily quotes are appreciated by many.

Ruth: I don’t think it would make any difference now how I wrote. The thought form is there and people only see that, so it would not make any difference if I wrote fancy pancy or lovey dovey, they only see what they want to see.

JJ It always makes a difference how you write and speak. This has nothing to do with any thoughtform. I don’t think any individual in the group has much of a thoughtform built up on the Keys. If you return good for what you see as evil then soon good will return to you. Instead, at the slightest whiff of an attack you attack back.

When someone disagrees with you, you need to ask yourself how you can respond in such a way that you appear poised and unruffled and in control of your emotions.

Dan, you were disrespectful to me. Blayne you were disrespectful also to me earlier. Whatever you say about me is also in you. Mirror effect I think they call that.

JJ And Dan thought you were disrespectful to the effort of the group. I do not recall any problem with Blayne.

Ruth If I had dared to say to you “to think about sitting back and shutting up”, boy would I have copped flack. Funny how you seem to be able to be rude to me, but if the tables were turned I would get slammed for it.

JJ If you had used the same wording in the same circumstance I wouldn’t have scolded either of you.

Ruth I call a spade a spade and I am not going to change that or live a lie or in an illusion just for the sake of pleasing a few people here and catering to their whims because they do not like my personality.

JJ You can be polite and considerate without living a lie for crying out loud. This is what I try and do – just follow my example.

Ruth Isn’t that what you teach JJ. To live the Truth and stand up for what we believe in and dispel illusions? To have courage and balls and not fear to trespass where Angels tread.

JJ I teach that we should tell the truth and release our feelings in a harmless manner. We are among friends here. There is no reason to play the victim or see enemies. I can’t think of anyone here who would not respond well to kindness. They do not need or want harsh spades but a friendly queen instead.

Ruth So here’s to good group dynamics where there are no favorites and that every one of us gets a pat on the back from JJ when we make a good point or say something he approves of.

JJ There’s a lot of good things said and done here that receive no pats on the back. If I gave to everyone who deserved then I would be giving out so many they would be meaningless.

That said, let me end with this. You are among friends here and should see them as such. This is as nice of a bunch as you will find on the internet. Don’t worry so much about setting them on the straight and narrow but concentrate on giving your views without complaining or playing the victim or seeing others as being favorites while you are overlooked. Let go of all this astral stuff and come up higher and enjoy your time here.

Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 15, 2011

Blayne: Bottom line is the GDP number along with all the other rosy numbers given out today are a joke and to put it mildly fuzzy math unless you believe government credit expansion, stimulus and make work programs with ever increasing unserviceable unsustainable debt is growth.

JJ Same type of joke as the GDP numbers during the depression of the 1890s if you read the except I gave. People really suffered. Part of the reason for the illusionary growth was the over extension of government projects taking away dollars to employ the common folk as illustrated in my last post.

The high unemployment with no safety net was not a myth by any means. The situation was much worse than what we are enduring now.

The trouble with Murray’s writings is he is selective in his facts leaving out anything that doesn’t fit his bias.

Seasteading
Aug 16, 2011

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Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 16, 2011

I was talking about the depression of the 1890s and you talk about the economy of the 1880s. Does not compute.

JJ

Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 16, 2011

Blayne: Considering that it was mostly an agrarian society and 80% of people owned and lived on farms, unemployment rates were confined mostly to cities or high populations areas where most of the jobs where and the banks were also to run their fiat schemes and so only a small percentage of the population had jobs. In fact in those days it was considered an insult if you were asked who you worked for cause it meant you could not make your own way.

JJ This doesn’t make any sense. So if you were looking for a job in those days and you were not a landowner and you travel to a farm community looking for work and seek an honest job the people told you that you were pig vomit because you were not making your own way???

If this was the case (which I doubt) no wonder the unemployed went to the cities.

Whatever the case the depression of the 1990’s saw unemployment around 20% and a whole army of the unemployed marched across the United States from the West Coast to Washington DC seeking relief. This was no myth and the suffering was comparable to the Great Depression.

By the way you, still haven’t given any historical examples of a free-for-all currency that worked to support your money plan. What makes you think it would work when the closest example we have was the dark ages of England after the fall of Rome?

Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 17, 2011

You (Blayne) give nothing to contradict anything I have said about the depression of the 1890s and as you can see below your data refers to the 1870s and 1880s when we were talking about the 1890’s. Throughout our history we have had cycles of growth overall. That is not in question. Even within cycles of growth there are a lot of problems with the economy and distribution and flow of money etc.

Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 17, 2011

Blayne Of course I have but you continue to ignore them. We had them up till 1913. You yourself referred to them in message #52924. And I have shown that despite our problems we were prosperous and that period contained the two decades of the greatest growth and in American history! All during a time of competing free market currencies.

JJ Our money system before 1913 was not like the system you advocate. The government set the price of gold and silver and coined it and that is not in your plan and is anathema to your plan. From 1860-1913 the government had a universal currency which had to be accepted. This is in total opposition to your plan. During these golden years most of the money was created by fractional banking and this was the main currency – totally different than the results you expect from your plan. You can’t even give one decade anywhere in the world where your system was successfully in play yet you expect us to believe you are presenting something workable.

On the other hand, I have numerous given examples covering many centuries where there was successful debt free fiat money which gives evidence a successful fiat money can be created today.

Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 17, 2011

Blayne: We have been talking about the 1870’s through the 1890s

JJ We’ll I’ve been talking about the 1890s so any disagreement you have with me in this discussion should cover that period. I try and cover one thing at a time for the sake of clarity.

Blayne: I have given several references covering the 1890s recently and before.

JJ You didn’t give any information supporting your case about the 1890s in your last post.

Blayne Of the two Rothbard quotes I gave in this new thread one of them covers that period. You have continued to ignore them and make statements of denial and claim Murray is selective but never specifically showing where he is selective.

JJ Yes, he is selective. He paints with a broad brush and ignores the depression that occurred which was most severe from 1893-1897. The money stock declined 5% from 1892-1896. “From 1891 to 1896 net national product in current prices fell at an average rate of roughly 1 per cent per year.” Freidman Monetary History, Page 97

In addition to this Rothbard ignores the money velocity of this period. This is the speed with which money changes hands. You can have a large money supply but if it does not change hands then it is as if it does not exist. On page 94 of Friedman’s book he gives a chart illustrating a large drop in the velocity of money during your mythical depression. This by itself could have created a depression. This low velocity is cause by a number of things. High unemployment, restrictions on loans, lack of faith by the people in the system etc.

Blayne: So now you are finally admitting it was a time of growth and not a depression. Well I guess we are making some progress…

JJ You need to read materials that present the full data rather than part, because they are trying to prove a point. Friedman is one of t he fairer ones. The data and historical accounts reveal that there was indeed a depression with the unemployment reaching 20%.

And by the way, during the 1890’s only half the population did farm related work.

Re: Fake Depressions?
Aug 17, 2001

Blayne People were NOT forced to use government currency. Most of the money was fiat because they could print and that is what caused the problems. They were free to use any currency they pleased and you yourself have admitted there were hundreds of currencies. That is a free market and pretty close to what I advocate.

JJ First let me say that I’ve always agreed that people had more monetary freedom in the old days.

Secondly, it may be close to what you advocate than the current system, but it is still not what you advocate.

You claim that if your system were to prevail that fiat money would fall by the wayside, but in this golden era it prevailed. Why did this happen if it was so close to your system?

Blayne Amazing… I just gave you 4 decades and you continue to be in denial…

JJ Which four decades? I do not know of one where we had a totally free money system with the government not being involved. According to Rothbard the last private gold that was allowed to be minted was 1848 so the latter half of the century did not meet your minting standard.

Quoting JJ On the other hand, I have numerous given examples covering many centuries where there was successful debt free fiat money which gives evidence a successful fiat money can be created today

Blayne And I have contradicted them with historical references that you deny and will I am sure deny again in response to this post…

JJ You made an effort, but I countered them all and I don’t think you convinced anyone. If you really effectively proved me wrong you would think I would have heard from some reader on the matter.

Re: The word Father in the song.

Art: I personally think the word “father” in the song has the potential to limit the power of this song. It sets up an incorrect assumption and brings up the wrong images in peoples mind who get stuck in the idea that God is some sort of Father(male) figure.

JJ I think I said this years ago but you can use either “Father” (comfortable for most people) or “Father-Mother” (more acceptable to others.) The important thing is that your thought is directed toward God, the Source of all.

Tally Sticks
Aug 18, 2011

Blayne, Tally sticks were more of an accounting or recording system for the most part. And I already posted how as soon as the King started using them like fiat money they suffered the same fate all fiat systems in history have. But nice try…

JJ First let me point out that what King Charles II did was a Ponzi scheme, which was a totally different animal than the tally stick program that had been successfully in place and financed the kingdom for over 500 years. To take a handful of years of recklessness by a king and discount a total of seven centuries of success is not a logical approach.

King Charles made the same mistake that our leaders do today. To borrow money he promised future tax revenues to investors. He then borrowed more and more until he essentially went broke.

Meanwhile, the tally sticks held by the people themselves never went out of use and the program continued after his death.

A Ponzi scheme can develop within any money system whether it be gold silver or fiat. The fact that Bernie Madoff abused the money system under his control did not make the dollar worthless, only his investment scheme was worthless. Neither did it negate the debts or credits of the investors in other areas.

Even so, the tally stick program still continued among the people during and after Charles and even helped to finance the Bank of England later on. Charles’ Ponzi scheme collapsed, but the tally sticks of the people held.

This fiat system was one of the most stable and successful money systems in the history of the world.

Re: Tally Sticks
Aug 18, 2011

Blayne: All fiat systems in history have ended badly.

JJ This is simply false. The Greek system lasted successfully for five hundred years and did not end badly but merely transitioned into a different system. The same with early Rome which had a very successful fiat system for another 500 years and was dropped for an inferior system.

The only bad thing about the end of the tally system was that the tally were used to finance an inferior system which became the Bank of England.

The American Greenback did not end badly for in addition to help end slavery and save the union, in the end each dollar in Greenbacks was worth a dollar in gold.

Blayne: Even if money managers are honest they cannot predict what the economy will do in the future even based on the past and it is always down hill from there!

JJ Under the debt free fiat system you do not have to predict the economy with any degree of exactness. Where do you get such an idea? Correction is built into the system so you adjust as you go. A simple computer program could manage it.

Even to today with an inferior fiat system figuring out how much money to issue is not much of a problem. The problem, which is ever present, is that Congress wants to borrow money like crazy making the idea of controlling the money supply moot for there is no control.

Blayne on the Tally Sticks I’d say it was more of an accounting system for goods and services for most of that time rather then a fiat system.

JJ You can’t have any fiat system without some type of accounting system built into it. But it was much more than just accounting. A tally stick was like a promissory note, not much different than a Federal Reserve Note, except there was no interest involved and anyone could issue one.

Blayne; When used like money it was more of a commodities backed currency then a fiat system.

JJ Not true.. There was no existing commodity backing the tally stick. It represented a promise to pay from commodities that did not yet exist making it a fiat currency.

Blayne: However when the people that used it in private it acted more like a free market which is why it probably lasted as long as it did.

JJ You are right. It acted a little like the system I recommend where both the government and the people have freedom to create currency. Even when Charles II created a Ponzi scheme that hurt the economy the people themselves could continue with their own tally sticks and still keep essentials going.

Too bad we do not have something that flexible today.

Blayne It was used to finance part of the bank of England cause it could be traded for commodities and gold

JJ Of course. It was their for of money and could be used to purchase most anything within the country. The only need for gold was for purchases made outside the country.

Blayne: More like receipts then fiat money.

JJ Receipts were recorded in the tally sticks but when the receipt of payment was acknowledged the value was then zero. When the tallies had a promise to pay they then had value and were traded as fiat money.

 

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Keys Writings, Part 4

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Swiss to use Gold Again
Aug 12, 2011

Good points Larry. As you say controlling the money supply so there will not be too much or too little is quite simple. I suggested a yearly assessment and you quarterly – either one would work. The problem is not in predicting how much money is needed for stability but in controlling spending by our dear leaders. This will be a problem that will need to be addressed no matter what money system is used – and history tells us that a gold standard is no deterrent.

The people themselves will set up their own organizations – more effective than the Tea Party that will put the needed pressure on our leaders to govern for the good of the people rather than their own.

Re: BOL Engineered Collapse…
Aug 12, 2011

Blayne: Could it be the BOL have influenced the World governments to a debt based currency so it would collapse and make way for a new currency that is more tenable?

I say this because it seems the only thing that will change this unsustainable monetary system and false economy that is now evaporating is complete collapse. Although the Swiss Proposal is a step toward a more stable currency.

JJ You’re right that mistakes often lead us to something that will correct those mistakes and in the end we progress but it is not in the plan for the Brotherhood to lead us into either error or the lesser of two or more paths.

We do not need their help to come up with bad ideas. Humanity is capable of coming up with plenty of these on its own. Now and then an agent of darkness injects something in the system that really gets some traction but as far as money goes they can normally sit back and let us chose badly and then support the choices that further their cause.

On the other hand, there are not a lot of good ideas from humanity centered on money that have the possibility of materializing in the near future. The forces of light will encourage the good ideas that do materialize and seek to inspire new ones as we grow in consciousness.

In saying this, let me stress that the Brotherhood doesn’t attempt to get humanity to accept concepts that are beyond our consciousness. The story of Moses illustrates this. God considered giving the Israelites the higher law, but when he saw that their consciousness wasn’t ready, because they were worshipping the golden calf, he then gave them a bunch of black and white rules, a lower law.

This lower law did not involve deception but was designed to help the people make progress.

On the other hand, the current money system is full of deception and debt that doesn’t guide us anywhere good except in maybe unraveling illusion so something better can be made.

When humanity enters the path of error then the Brotherhood patiently awaits the day of opportunity to push us on the path of correction. Sometimes they just have to wait until disaster occurs so we can definitely see we are in error and may then be open to positive change.

Blayne As most here know I disagree with JJ on the Middle East wars. I think they are unnecessary and have ulterior motives for banksters etc. he says they are necessary to keep the DB’s plans from coming to fruition inferring BOL influence here.

JJ I’ve only supported current one war in the Middle East – the one in Iraq. I believe the brotherhood knew the risks and that the cost would be great but supported this in the hope that a degree of freedom could be established in that area to pave the way for freedom of movement when Christ comes again. It appears that the war in Afghanistan is a no win situation. I think the original short war was necessary, but not much has been accomplished since then.

On the other hand, the Iraqis have gotten a taste of democracy and other Middle Eastern people are desiring more freedom because of it. I think successful seeds have been planted there. That doesn’t mean that some temporary tyrannies will not surface in various places but overall I think the Middle East is heading for progress.

Blayne I have my serious doubts about the seeds of democracy being planted In the Middle East however even if it has been will it not take a serious blow when the US and Europe along with Asia go down in flames due to the unsustainable debt based monetary system and the troops will have to come home simply from lack of money?

JJ The forces of darkness often attempt to get their way by manipulating the money system. The perilous economic situation the world is in works to the dark brothers advantage and this is one of the greatest threats to the hoped for materialization of democracy in the Middle East.

On the positive side, our financial problems could delay democracy, but not destroy the seed, for the seed is good.

Blayne: This gives me a side tangent thought that perhaps the BOL are trying to end the wars with this collapse. But never the less a collapse will leave everyone in disarray and make a perfect opportunity for some new dictators to rise especially in those regions.

JJ If there is a collapse both sides will be doing everything in their power to implement their ideas. A collapse is desired more by the Dark Brothers because it gives them greater opportunity to manipulate the people. In the past a collapse or revolution has usually worked in their favor but humanity is advancing and this may change the next time round.

Blayne: I just wonder why they would promote these wars when they are unsustainable based on the monetary system. Was the monetary system the fail safe to end the wars?

JJ The only recent war I know they supported was Iraq. This was a calculated gamble. It may require a substantial passing of time to see how successful it turns out, for the Masters look some distance in the future in making their decisions.

Re: BOL Engineered Collapse…
Aug 12, 2011

Larry W BTW, I think Blayne makes a good point that the current precarious world money supply could facilitate a change for the better and could very well have been engineered or used by BOL first Ray.

JJ That’s possible but remember that first ray energy was released just before WWII and the Nazis picked it up. This wasn’t what was hoped for but the forces of light did win the war and progress was made.

Re: Swiss to use Gold Again
Aug 13, 2011

Thought I’d make a few comments on the article posted about the Swiss making a partial return to gold.

It says: In March, Utah repealed its capital gains tax on gold and silver coins it will recognize as legal tender. Twelve other states are considering similar legislation.

JJ This is a good move but mostly symbolic as the big tax as well as control comes from the federal government.

Quote: Then, in June, Senators Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) introduced the Sound Money Promotion Act that would remove the 28% federal tax on gains realized in the use of gold or silver coins recognized as legal tender for use within a state.

JJ This is the legislation we need if an alternative metallic currency is to be created. It should be expanded to loosen the rules on non metalic fiat local currencies so experiments can be made with a variety of money systems.

Quote: Now, in Switzerland, efforts are underway to create an official Gold Swiss franc (GSF) with a set of coins, each with a fixed content of gold. The proposed constitutional change would permit private institutions to issue an unlimited number of coins whose appearance, content and weight of gold, and definition would be under the supervision of the Swiss government.

For example, the smallest coin would have a face value of 1 GSF and have 0.1 grams of gold in its center, similar to today’s bi-metallic euro coins, and be worth — at today’s price of gold, about $4.00.

Five, 10, 20 and 50 GSF coins would have 0.5, 1.0, 2.0 and 5.0 grams of gold and today would be worth approximately $20, $40, $80 and $200 respectively. Gold Swiss franc bank notes are conceivable, as are GSF bank deposits, but they would have to be 100% backed by gold held by the issuing institution. Credit transactions would be legal, but fractional reserve credit would be forbidden under Swiss law.

JJ This is a good move considering the instability of the debt-based currency the world now uses. They have an interesting solution to avoid the use of very tiny gold coins in that they place the small amount of gold in the center of a larger coin – maybe something like our quarters.

A problem I see with this is thieves would take the gold out of the centers and replace it with lead and the counterfeit would be difficult to detect by regular merchants.

Quote: “The primary purpose is to make it easy for the Swiss people to use or hold gold as an alternative to the Swiss franc and all other currencies,” explains Thomas Jacob, the man behind the gold initiative who now heads the newly founded Goldfranc Association.

JJ I would guess that most people would just hold on to the partial gold coins and spend the paper making them very similar in use to the gold coins we invest in today.

Quote: Within the next few weeks, signatures will be collected to launch an initial referendum that would require the Swiss National Bank to repatriate all of its gold holdings to within the borders of Switzerland, prohibit it from selling any more of its gold, and require a minimum 20% of its assets be gold.

JJ This move may be partially responsible for the recent leap we have had in the price of gold.

Quote This referendum will put the issue of gold as money on the political agenda. The next step is to offer a follow-on initiative permitting the free-coinage of GSF.

JJ The current imitative still leaves full metallic monetary control in the hands of the State. If they allowed private enterprise to coin money with no fractional banking allowed it would be interesting to observe the developments.

Quote: The creation of a Gold Swiss franc and the free coinage thereof, along with the repeal of taxation by the U.S. of gold and silver coins used as legal tender, would liberate market participants to generate spontaneously a new monetary order.

JJ I don’t think it would create a new monetary order, but many people would use it for a security back up and collect the coins for investment. Unless there was a total collapse the people would still use paper and digital fiat money as their main spending mechanism. Keep in mind that under this proposal most of the money will still be debt based fiat.

Now if they also freed up the laws that would allow for the creation of non debt based fiat money we would see many more changes.

In advocating freedom of the people to print or coin their own money I do not advocate that the State relinquish control over issuing the main currency with which taxes are paid. Without this control then we could return to the cacophony of the mid 1800s where we had 7000 different types of banknotes issued each having different values making exchanges costly and time consuming.

Our current system has a lot of flaws but one thing that is often overlooked is the great convenience of having one currency rather than 7000 and not having to pay fees up to 40% to exchange one currency for another.

Re: Swiss to use Gold Again
Aug 13, 2011

I certainly think a free-for-all currency would create problems..

Example..

You receive payment issued from some bank in Oklahoma. You’re uncertain about it’s stability but you have a good profit margin and accept it. You then take the money to a local grocery store and they say it is not on their list so you’re out of luck. You then go to an exchange center and they tell you that this is one of the currencies they do not even deal with. This bank claims to back up their money with gold but too many people have complained that they cannot redeem their money.

The guy then gives the exchange some other bills he received from other issuers and is disappointed to see that he must take a 40% discount for one and 30% for another. Now it turns out that most of the profit he thought he made is gone.

In 1860 they had 7000 different money types. With several times the population and much more commerce a free-for-all would probably give us over 20,000 different types of money. Why you would want to head toward such a nightmare is a mystery to me.

After the country went off the partial free-for-all (after 1860) no one with a memory of the situation wanted to return to it let alone install a complete free-for-all with no government insolvent at all.

Re: Relationships 101
Aug 14, 2011

Dan: I would think those that WANT (are TRYING) to be mentally polarized but are not there yet (ie; in truth are yet emotionally polarized), would be more likely to deny, suppress or ignore their feelings than those truly mentally polarized.

JJ This is a good point Dan. There are many people who think they are smart who may fool others into thinking they are mentally polarized when they are in a lot of glamor and very emotionally polarized. The true mentally polarized person has mostly mastered the emotions and does not deny or suppress.

A good test to determine if a person is mentally polarized is to strongly disagree with him – telling him his views are nonsense – or even insult him. If you see a lashing out or signs of a grievance then he is not mentally polarized.

Re: New Book Cover
Aug 14, 2011

It’s too bad we cannot discuss a book cover without the danger of hurt feelings present. Oh, well, let us move on.

The cover I designed was not written in stone. I’m sure a number of people could come up with something better – though I do like it myself. The need is to reach the largest number of people who would possibly read the book. My cover was a little new agey and that may cause some mainstream people to bypass it.

On the other hand, Steve’s cover would appeal to the mainstream mind more than mine and that may be a good thing. Who would have thought we would get a good mainstream design from such a non mainstream group?

I showed the cover to my wife and she thought it would fill the need better than my design. (There goes the illusion of Artie rubber stamping everything I do.)

Now if I use this I will need a good copy of the graphics, so I hope Stephen has the original graphics in high resolution.

Here’s what I would like you to do Steve.

Prepare a copy of the cover with no text approx 8.5″ x 5.5″ in 600 DPI and email it to me as a JPEG. I will then add the text and present it to the group.

Thanks for your effort. Good job.

Depressions
Aug 14, 2011

You (Blayne) state that several depressions during the 18th century were illusions and no one responded to this claim. This is not true as I did respond and will respond again with a repost since you seemed to have missed it.

First, let me point out that just because there was growth in GDP during a certain period doesn’t mean that major economic problems did not exist.

We had growth near 3% last year and I didn’t see you talking about the idea that the bad Obama economy was a myth.

If you think the depressions of the 19th century were illusions need to read a little history. Here is an eye-opening account from a book called “Coxey’s Army,” pages 13-17.

Hard times in the 1870s had been accompanied by a series of major railway strikes and urban disturbances. During a less severe slump in the mid-a80s, anti-Chinese riots had erupted on the Pacific Slope. In 1893, with the worst downturn yet, normally confident and optimistic Americans shuddered at the thought of what the future might bring. Already during the fall and winter of 1893/94, the ominous cry “Bread or Blood” had been heard in several of the nation’s cities, and the rise of Coxeyism suggested that worse was yet to come.”

The season of economic despair began in mid-1893, when panic on Wall Street signaled the start of a depression that would last four years. Within six months nearly five hundred banks and sixteen thousand businesses had failed. Only two of the five western transcontinental railroads remained solvent. No matter what the industry, people fortunate enough to retain jobs frequently saw their wages cut by one-fifth-or even by one-half Every month thousands more involuntarily joined the ranks of the army of unemployed, although no one could be sure of the exact number: the federal government did not keep such statistics, and neither did many states. What statistics were available were crude and not always meaningful. One report estimated that on January 1, 1894, 25 percent of the breadwinners of Montana and Utah were without work; 50,000 were jobless in California. In Chicago that figure was close to 100,000, and in New York City it fell somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000, depending on who was guessing. Making matters worse was the fact that the jobless often had dependents who constituted an even larger portion of the destitute; an estimated 7,000 unemployed San Franciscans, for example, had 20,000 dependents. Atlanta had 3,000 out of work with 15,000 dependents, while for Philadelphia the figures were 62,500 jobless and 187,000 dependents.

The grim statistics caused the head of the New York Central Railroad, Chauncy M. Depew, to comment: “I have been through all the panics of the last thirty years, but I have never seen one in which the distress was so widespread and reached so many people who previously had not been affected as this Panic of 1893.” And what advice did he offer the jobless? Join Coxey’s army, commit suicide, or “cheerfully and courageously do the best you can and not cry.””

The press added a human dimension to the unemployment statistics. Journalists told of hopeless, penniless old men wandering the streets of Saint Paul, of men in the prime of life without jobs in the timber country of Wisconsin and Oregon. In the Iron Range near Lake Superior even the largest mines had closed. The stillness in towns like Ironwood and Hurley was deathlike. With forty inches of snow on the ground outside and temperatures hovering near eight below zero, people huddled around fires; some had neither food nor clothing for their children. In some cases only the kindly merchants who fed the miners and their families loosened the grip of starvation.

In Denver, a relief camp opened in River Front Park using tents provided by the state militia, but it attracted so many indigents from all over the West that it was forced to close for lack of facilities. For a time the railroads of Denver allowed the jobless to ride east on freight trains, but the number of freeloaders grew so great that the companies cancelled the offer and begged authorities for protection.

The annual convention of casket manufacturers reported that business was off because of the depression, and one member tried to make light of the situation by quipping that times were so bad that the sick could not afford to call a doctor and thus improved their chances for recovery. But unemployment was no joke. The blow was psychological as well as economic.”

“Last cent gone,” a thirty-two-year-old widow living in Chicago penned in her diary for November 10. “Children went to work without their breakfast. Gave them car fare and a nickel each for lunch and promised them a royal dinner when they got home. .. . This awful struggle is wearing me out. I cannot sleep and my face is beginning to look haggard.” Newspapers carried stories of people in similar circumstances who committed suicide rather than steal food.’

There was simply no escaping the sights and sounds of hard times. Iowa schoolmarms were occasionally surprised by a band of homeless wanderers who had broken into the classroom for a night’s shelter. And whether the railroads approved or not, passenger trains on the western lines were overrun with freeloaders clinging to any place a human hand could grip. Frequently half as many people rode out-

side the cars as within. Some perched on the roof and braved the hail of cinders blown back from the locomotive, while others crouched under the cars on the trucks, suspended only inches from the whirling and dangerous axles. Many such passengers were well-dressed men on their way to the cities of the East where they believed-erroneously-that work would be easier to find than in the sparsely settled Rocky Mountain country. Husbands promised to send money back to support their wives and children in Denver or Cripple Creek, but some families would never be reunited.

In cities of the East, the jobless congregated outside newspaper offices every morning trying to be the first to scan the “help-wanted” ads. Sometimes they also participated in public protest meetings and signed petitions to be forwarded to Congress, probably the most ineffective thing an unemployed person could have done in 1893. 16

It was not simply that congressmen were insensitive to the plight of the jobless. Most were charitable men, but they nonetheless reflected the survival-of-the fittest ethic that then prevailed in America. When asked what the government could do to help, the nation’s leaders typically answered, “Nothing.” They argued that “economic laws are a part of the machinery of the universe as much as the laws of gravitation.” Unemployment was a natural phenomenon like an earthquake or cyclone, a product of forces beyond human control. Government tinkering with economic laws could only make things worse. “Laissez-faire,” said one apologist for the philosophy of governmental inaction, “has its drawbacks, but it means, on the whole, wealth, vigor, resource, and capacity for recuperation.” ‘ 7

Each bout of economic depression in the nineteenth century yielded its crop of platitudes about the need for the jobless to bear their suffering and privation with patience. Beyond their limited personal resources, the only help they might receive came from private charity and local relief programs. Occasionally small-town merchants extended credit and a helping hand to the jobless, and saloon keepers allowed homeless men to bed down on the sawdust in an out-of-the-way corner of the bar-“Hotel de Drunk,” they called it. Saloonmen were generous with their food, too, although hard times threatened to end the time-honored custom of the free lunch with a five-cent beer.

Private charity took a bewildering variety of forms. The New York World gave away more than a million loaves of bread, and the rival

New York Herald distributed thousands of dollars worth of clothing. A Tacoma philanthropist, A. V. Fawcett, served Christmas dinner to a thousand children who ranged in age from two to fifteen. They consumed 75 turkeys, 500 pies, 200 pounds of cakes, 300 loaves of bread, 500 pounds of potatoes, 5 cases of corn, and 50 pounds of coffee. 18

A cheap and efficient method of relief favored by both private and municipal charities was the soup kitchen. Great caldrons filled with donated meat and vegetables provided mulligan stew to all comers. In some locales an able-bodied man might first be required to earn his meal by chopping firewood, which was then distributed to heat the homes of the poor. For a single meal, a man often had to chop a sixth of a cord of wood, working all the while on an empty stomach. Destitute women were occasionally assigned jobs in a municipal laundry.

Cities also established free employment bureaus and funded public-works projects like digging ditches for sewer lines. In this way Seattle employed 600 diggers, 200 to a shift, for 15 days. In Chicago men in tailor-made suits stood in line for pick-and-shovel jobs that paid 15 cents an hour. When snow blanketed the city in December, Chicago hired 20,000 shovelers for a few hours to clear its streets. Occasionally a community attempted to systematize the welter of overlapping and ineffective public and private programs, but in some places the poverty was so overwhelming and the confusion so great that officials were reduced almost to throwing loaves of bread at the unemployed.”

Surrounded by an ocean of misery, the affluent sought to insulate themselves from the human dimensions of hard times. In almost mocking disregard for the true plight of the impoverished, hard-times parties and masquerade balls became the fad. A hostess gave a prize such as a sack of flour to the guest who dressed as the most forlorn specimen of poverty or a broom to the most deplorable example of shabby gentility.

In Chicago a lavish charity ball-the highlight of the city’s social calendar-took place in January 1894. “It was the night for the poor,” recorded the Chicago Herald, “a gala, dazzling, blinding spectacle for the rich.” The money it raised would buy bandages for the injured and food baskets for the hungry. Many of the city’s foremost citizens were present: Robert T. Lincoln (the well-to-do son of the president), Mrs. Potter Palmer, the Philip Armours, George M. Pullman, and Marshall Field. The ball was a visual feast, a maze of color and beauty, of silken gowns trimmed in ermine and diamonds, and corsages of red roses. While the affluent danced away a frigid night, the poor huddled outside, their scantily clad bodies pierced by sharp winds sweeping off ice-covered Lake Michigan. Such contradictory scenes typified the times that gave rise to the Coxey crusade.”

 

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Keys Writings, Part 3

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Change of Mind
July 16, 2011

From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006: “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

At the time, Senator Obama was urging Congress not to tolerate an increase that would bring the debt ceiling to $9 trillion. Under President Obama, the debt ceiling has been raised to $14.3 trillion. Even without counting most unfunded liabilities, the national debt is now calculated to be nearing $14.1 trillion. It increases about $4.22 billion per day (each citizen’s share stands at roughly $45K). Thus, Democrats will soon demand that the debt ceiling be raised, lest the sky fall. When they do, they will be asking for a significant boost in a ceiling that is already 60 percent higher than the one Barack Obama said was “a sign of leadership failure” five years ago. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/256288/senator-barack-obama-explaining-his-\ 2006-vote-against-raising-debt-limit-andrew-c-mcca

Re: A Curiosity
July 25, 2011

JJ You are correct here, Blayne. By all estimates Elenin is 1-2 miles in diameter and thousands of times smaller than a brown dwarf.

As far as a news blackout goes I think the problem is there is just nothing newsworthy. A long shot guess by one amateur astronomer that it could provide a spectacular display is not likely to make any news unless backed up by other astronomers as was the discovery of the Hale-Bop comet with its trajectory toward Jupiter.

There is less than a chance in a million that Elenin will create any problem for us so I’m not losing any sleep on it unless I receive some sort of revelation.

Much bigger news than anything recent about Elenin is the arrival of the half billion dollar space probe, Dawn, to the asteroid Vesta. This is a pretty big deal and I haven’t heard a word of it in the mainstream media. You can check this out here:

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/07/dawn-captures-first-\ orbital-im.html

http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/vesta_dawn_gallery.asp

Re: A Curiosity
July 26, 2011

I just cannot get excited about Elenin and have no sense that anything that it may cause will have ay negative effect on my life or anything I am supposed to do. I’m sure there will be some earthquakes between August and December of this year and if there are any significant ones then they will be attributed by some to Elenin, but the chances of it directly causing any harm to us is very low indeed.

I am about a thousand times more concerned about the economy.

By January of next year the memory of disaster warnings over Elenin will fade into the background as has the alarm over Y2K and Past Nibiru warnings. We will have other things to worry about.

JJ

Re: A Curiosity
July 26, 2011

JJ if the economy crashes will we have a world wide depression worse than anything else we have ever suffered from in the past depressions?

Ruth: If people have some money in their bank accounts or investments, will they lose the value of their money or lose the money?

JJ If we had a perfect storm we could lose everything. Without that things will just get worse until some positive changes are made.

Re: What Initiation is JJ?
July 31, 2011

DK says it is counterproductive for a teacher to reveal his status and I agree, but I will make this one statement. In order to pass my next initiation I must complete a successful molecule. Hopefully that can be done in this life. If not I will continue on into the next.

Re: A Real Brain Trust We Have in Congress...
Aug 1, 2011

What caused the inflation is the head of Zimbabwe’s Federal Reserve increased the money supply by 20 million times within a year’s time. The problem had nothing to do with interest free money but a reckless increase of the money supply. I doubt if the money was interest free since the central bank was printing it.

If we increased our money supply by 20 million times instead of 5% or so we would be immediately destroyed economically and it wouldn’t matter what kind of money it was if there was an increase like that.

You might want to read my treatise where I talk about various money systems. It starts here:

https://freeread.com/archives/2395

Re: Paul’s 2nd Food for Thought
Aug 2, 2011

Ruth: Joe Smith did not pass the 4th because he couldn’t give up his friends and family and was killed. But if he had gone West, he may have been able to still create a molecule, so what would he have to give up in reality?

JJ At the time he would have had to give up everything he held dear in his mind, his honor, his courage, his friends, his brother, his family, the respect of his followers. It was more than he could bear.

Yes, the reward would have been great if he had succeeded, but he did not realize that at the time.

Molecules can be composed of various numbers as I have taught before. The molecule of twelve is particularly powerful and has the attributes needed to build Zion. You not only need the number, but you need a Master to approve the molecule and overshadow it.

Re: Paul’s 2nd Food for Thought
Aug 2, 2011

The initiating molecule has to be linked up through a master. The additional ones must be linked up to the initiating one.

You do not have to worry about getting accepted by a master unless you are forming the first molecule. All molecules must be harmonious enough to allow for the flow of soul energy or they will not function or be linked to the first.

Re: Paul’s 2nd Food for Thought
Aug 2, 2011

Can we ever truly do more than just live the best life we know how and in doing so important rites-of-passage like Initiations happen in due course?

~Rob

That’s about what we all have to do Rob. The drawback of studying the initiations is that many are impatient and want to see themselves on their last life when they have a long way to go.

Answer to a Reader
Aug 3, 2011
A reader named Benny made some comments at: https://freeread.com/archives/3127

Here is my response to him. Note that his words are in CAPS and when he quotes me he uses lower case with quotation marks.

Benny: I HAVE READ A FLAWED MONEY SYSTEM, A TIME FOR ALL THINGS, THE IDEAL MONEY, THE NEW GREENBACK, And did Agree on much of it, until I came to These Quotes:

“Yes, it helps a little to get the best possible people in office and to make laws that attempt to restrain insanity but such steps are very insufficient to cure the disease. Outside help must be called in.” QUITE PESSIMISTIC!

JJ It’s not the outcome we all want but this is the outcome we’ve always had and if we follow the same procedure we will get the same results as in the past. If we want to change our destiny we need to do something different. The people themselves must take charge and create positive change.

Benny: “And where do we find such people? They are all over. They are called voters and most of these people do have the needed common sense.” NO THEY DO NOT! IF THEY HAD, WE WOULD NOT RESIDE IN SUCH A MESS.

JJ The common people have not been in charge and had little to do with getting us in this mess. The problems we have were created by people representing us while we have been too passive.

Benny: “The average voter knows better than to borrow more money than he can pay back.” NOT! WHO TOOK THE SUBPRIME LOANS? WHO BOUGHT TOO EXPENCIVE HOUSES, CARS AND STUFF?

JJ You’re not talking about the average voter here and those who took subprime loans were a small percentage of the population. Most of those who took such loans were way below average in income and many in this category do not even vote. The average person tries to balance his budget so he can make his payments.

Benny: “The average voter knows better than to spend more money than he has available.” NOT! ESPECIALLY IF HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY.

JJ You are thinking of people who are below average in handling their budget. Average people and above attempt to keep their financial houses in order.

Benny: “The average voter knows that his family wants many things he cannot afford so he has to set priorities in spending – unlike Congress that thinks it has to borrow whatever it takes to give us all the things we want.”

NOT!

JJ We are over $14 trillion in debt and borrowing just to pay our bills. This is not sustainable.

Average people and above do not borrow to pay their bills, especially when there is another way.

I know that if I cannot pay my bills I will either make cuts or find a way to increase my income and most people I know think this way.

Benny: “The average voter is not a member of an elite club like Congress where he is under pressure to spend lots of money to be one of the group.”

YES HE IS. IT’S CALLED STATUS and VANITY. EVERY ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION VIDEO IS URGING HIM. HE WANTS TO BE ADMIRED FOR HIS POSSESIONS; EVEN THOUGH HE HAS BORROWED THE WHOLE CHEBANG.HE BRAGS AND SHOWS OFF, EVEN IF IT IS ALL FAKE.

JJ Again I think you are talking about a minority. None of my friends are like this. And even considering what you say, these type of people are much different than Congress who have spending pressures many times stronger than mere advertising.

What is more potent, an ad that says “Drink Coca Cola” or a political group that says, “Do what we say or lose your funding and your job?”

The answer is obvious.

Benny: “The average voter does not have to raise large sums of money to be elected and is not beholden to pressure groups.” THAT’S ONLY TRUE IF HE’S NOT TRYING TO BE ELECTED.

JJ Very few voters are trying to get elected to anything.

Benny: “Best of all, the average voter balances his budget and lives within his means.”

IF THAT WAS TRUE, THERE WERE NO NEED FOR ANY BANKS. NOONE WOULD BORROW MONEY. BORROWED MONEY ARE NOT MEANS, BUT DEPT.

JJ To balance your budget and live within your means does not mean you do not borrow money. It means you are managing your budget so all debts get paid.

Congress only pays the interest on our debt and borrows money to pay that.

The average householder pays principle and interest and will have his loans paid off in the future. He doesn’t borrow to pay his debt.

Benny: “We cannot trust those who created the problem to solve the problem.”

VERY TRUE. BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ELECTING THE GOVERNMENT,

JJ Yes, we are responsible for electing our representatives and it is not working so we have to try something else within the framework of the Constitution.

Benny AND FOR BORROWING MORE THAN THEY CAN EVER PAY BACK.

JJ Some people do this, but not the majority.

Benny: THE BANKS LEND INSOLVENT PEOPLE MONEY WITHOUT PROPER SAFETY IN TRUE VALUES.

JJ Yes, this happened and some in Congress are still pushing for this to continue. This problem has diminished significantly, but it needs to stop completely. This problem is easily corrected through legislation.

Benny: THE BANKS DON’T EVEN OWN THE MONEY THEY LEND TO IRRESPONSIBLE BUSSINESSES, THE BANKS HAVE BORROWED THE MONEY FROM OTHER BANKS, OFTEN FORRIGN BANKS.

JJ Most of the banks money is created from loaning money based on deposits on hand. If they have $100 they can loan out $1000 or so. Money is presently created through debt. This we must change.

Benny: AVE-RAGE PEOPLE ARE NO BETTER THAN THEIR GOVERNMENT.

JJ This may be true, but average people are not under the same pressures to conform that faces our representatives. Average people are not worried about getting reelected, being invited to Washington parties, being praised by the press, raising funds to keep your job etc. Because of this the majority of people support common sense decisions much more than our representatives.

For more on why I have faith in the majority go to: http://www.themajorityspeaks.com/

Evil in the Eyes of Government Message List Aug 3, 2011

With all the dangers that assault us who does the government go after with guns and the full force of law?

Harmless people who sell raw milk. Take a look.

http://www.infowars.com/raw-food-raid-armed-agents-bust-raw-milk-cheese-sellers/

Re: Paul’s 2nd Food for Thought
Aug 3, 2011

I have been told to create a molecule. When it is correctly organized then it will be accepted. If there is not enough Harmony and soul contact in the group then it will not.

If I die before it is accomplished then others can try to create an accepted group. The important point to realize is that just getting the correct number of individuals is not enough. There must be group soul contact and acceptance from a Master who is a member of a higher molecule.

Re: Evil in the Eye of the Government
Aug 4, 2011

Back in the Seventies about a dozen of us got the bug Giardia in the small town of New Plymouth. Health officials became alarmed and investigated. They visited me and asked me if I drank raw milk. I answered yes. Then they asked me where I bought it. I told them but also told them that I was sure I didn’t get the bug from there. I told them that right after I drank some raw apple cider from a local plant that I was effected and thought that was the cause for the plant added water to the cider and the water may be contaminated.

They ignored this and went after the farmer and shut him down. They didn’t go after the apple cider plant for two reasons. First, they had an obvious bias against raw milk and second the owner of the cider plant was a powerful politician and they didn’t want to touch him.

I was further annoyed by the officials when I did my own survey and everyone I talked to that got the bug drank the apple cider but only a couple drank the raw milk.

Re: Paul’s 2nd
Aug 4, 2011

DK said back in the Twenties that there were only about 300 disciples, or third degree initiates, on the planet. So, using that as a starting point by interpolation there are probably a thousand or so today – though even this number seems high.

Bumper Sticker:
Aug 8, 2011

Clinton felt your pain. Obama causes your pain.

A reader made some comments about my post about Greenbacks at: https://freeread.com/archives/3043 Aug 11, 2011

He says:

Instead of garbage by Ellen Brown and Bill Still, read for once in your life the story of the Greenback. If you did, you would not regurgitate this fantasy about Lincoln and his Dick coming in a shining armour to save the village idiots from the big bad bankers.

Lincoln had as much to do with the invention of Treasury Notes as Saunders with the invention of fried chicken. Lincoln and his crew were all whigs; Chase learned what he knew about banking at the Bank of the United States, where he worked as attorney. The true fathers of the Greenback were Hooper, Corning, Spaulding. Hooper first practiced at the State level

(1) inflationary bonds – are you out of your mind ? bonds cannot be inflationary; if you bothered to pay attention, you would know that by 1865 $1,100million bonds were issued. The inflation was caused by the $300million additional Greenbacks, instead of the originally intended $150million Reply

Here was my response:

You act as if I said that Lincoln came up with the idea of the Greenback. I did not. You say that Corning, Spaulding and Hooper originated it. You overlook the fact that I did mention Spaulding’s role who was the main driving force behind it in Congress.

Just like any legislation today must involve both the President and Congress even so was it in those days. Who is the father of the current healthcare plan? Was it Pelosi and Reid, the lawyers who wrote the words or Obama? The fact is that the President had to support it to get it passed and in recognition of this it is called Obamacare. Does this make him the father of it? It’s a matter of interpretation.

The fact that people outside of Congress influenced Lincoln’s support of the Greenback is a separate story from its evolution in Congress. It was important that Lincoln be convinced, especially since he had the power of veto. Exactly how much interplay there was behind the scenes between Congress and the President concerning the Greenback we do not know but we know the is always a substantial amount on important legislation.

You rule out Lincoln’s reported conversation with Dick Taylor. Lots of things reported from history could be inaccurate or fabricated, but there is no proof this conversation did not take place so I relate it and let the reader decide. I also note that his economic adviser Henry Carey was said to have a similar influence on Lincoln toward the Greenback.

So instead of just having a narrow focus and stating that the Spaulding gang was the father of the Greenback I mention other possible influences. And you think that is wrong because…?

Bonds can be inflationary. Anything that can be used to purchase something can influence price increases. For example, if bonds were used to purchase 90% of the wheat then of course the price of a loaf of bread would increase.

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Belief – Faith
July 1, 2011

Ruth: So we should always question our soul and intuition? Isn’t the Spirit within the true voice anyway? Entering the Kingdom is entering the spiritual consciousness, rather than the lower consciousness.

JJ The trouble is that we have two voices within. The first is a voice created by the emotional/astral self. This was that which was called in the Bible “the heart which is deceitful above all things.” This does not represent the true heart energies but is the closest thing to it until the energy of spiritual love is recognized.

Many people seek the inner voice for lifetimes and the highest they achieve is the astral voice that always leads them to upside down truths and keeps them in illusion.

The seeker must question all things, including the astral inner voice before he can find the sure voice of the soul.

Then when he first discovers the true voice he will have difficulty in accepting it as real at first and will question its reality. It is only after the true voice proves itself a number of times that the seeker finally accepts it as reliable and begins to trust it. After he has proven its reliability and trusts it the power of the voice is increased until it becomes strong enough that there is no question that the seeker is hearing the true voice when it comes.

A sure reliance on the true voice will take a number of lifetimes and for the seeker who has mastered it in the past – he will still have to remaster it in the current life – though it could be much quicker because he doesn’t have to start from scratch.

Ruth How does one first prove or test that Jesus will raise another person from the dead, until the actual deed has taken place?

JJ Martha had already seen Jesus perform a lot of miracles and this increased her faith. To her credit the inner voice confirmed that Jesus could raise Lazarus and she accepted this.

Ruth quoting me: “He who masters intuition knows, and knows that he knows, and knows why he knows.”

JJ But before this happens the seeker will mistake the astral voice many times for the true voice. After all, he has nothing to compare the astral voice to until he hears and recognizes the true voice.

Ruth: Oh now I get it. So when God told Joe Smith to go west and save himself, he said no because he was too skeptical of that inner voice and had to test it, so he went and got killed instead?

JJ He wasn’t skeptical of the inner voice. He knew he should have followed it but the pressure from his wife, brother and others just got the best of him and he ignored the voice to his peril.

Ruth: For the rest of my life and the next and next one, I am supposed to question all of JJ’s teachings, all of Jesus teachings and all of the DK teachings, just in case they are all wrong?

Interesting.

JJ It doesn’t matter if God himself is speaking question anything that doesn’t make sense and seek understanding until you can make sense of a thing and have it register positive with your soul. I question DK regularly and this helps me see his teachings from a wider angle.

Ruth Glad Mary and Martha and all those other women did not question their soul voice when it came to Jesus depending on their faith and belief in those healings.

JJ But they did question it many times previously until they learned to recognize the difference between the true voice and the astral.

Ruth If I was to continuously question that which I know is true, then I will never truly believe in myself or my ability to know truth via soul.

JJ Use the things you are sure is true as a foundation, but ever so often one must reexamine himself and question all things. I do this with myself. If I didn’t do this I would probably still be a regular church member as when I was younger I was very sure that I was on the path of highest knowledge, but because I was open to all things I discovered I was wrong and reset my compass.

However, the true principles that were confirmed by my soul when I was younger are still true today. I just needed a path correction and needed the realization that the soul only gives you the portion of a picture that you can handle at the time.

Trump Quote
July 4, 2011

Here’s a great quote from Donald Trump that Sterling dug up:

Let me get this straight . . . … We’re going to be “gifted” with a health care Plan we are forced to purchase and Fined if we don’t, Which purportedly covers at least Ten million more people, Without adding a single new doctor, But provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, Written by a committee whose chairman Says he doesn’t understand it, Passed by a Congress that didn’t read it but Exempted themselves from it, And signed by a President who smokes, With funding administered by a treasury chief who Didn’t pay his taxes, For which we’ll be taxed for four years before any Benefits take effect, By a government which has Already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, All to be overseen by a surgeon general Who is obese, And financed by a country that’s broke!!!!!

‘What the hell could Possibly go wrong?’

Re: PI is wrong?
July 6, 2011

Here was a readers comments in PI which I thought was interesting:

What’s the big deal? We cannot handle doubling a constant? Besides, while some formulas are simpler, others are more complex. Circumference becomes Tau x R instead of 2 x Pi x R, but at the same time Tau x D / 2 instead of Pi x D. Area of the circle is now Tau x R^2/2 instead of a simpler Pi x R^2. I think what this “innovation” shows is that we have gotten so bad at math that we are not able to perform trivial algebraic and arithmetic transformations intuitively. But if calling 2xPi Tau saves space in some formulas, why not use it? At the same time, we still need Pi to keep others simple.

Re: From Self Consciousness to Initiation
July 6, 2011

Glad you like that series. I got distracted and never returned to finish that book. I still plan on doing so one day not too far away now. When finished it may capture some attention.

JJ

Blayne wrote:
I was wondering if you if you were ever going to finish this book? I often refer people to it for an overview of our human progression when the topic comes up it is done so well. Now of course I had to track down each link in the archives. I liked it better when we could just click on the next chapter or go to an index of all these works. > > I know your not very busy these days so I thought I would give you something to do for a change… ;D LOL! > > For those of you who have not read it or its been a long time here you go… > > Blayne > > https://freeread.com/archives/1633.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1635.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1637.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1642.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1645.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1648.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1650.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1654.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1658.html > https://freeread.com/archives/1665.html

What lives fuse to enter the kingdom?
July 7, 2011

JJ [archives]: > “… each time a new kingdom is entered lives are fused to create a greater life.” – https://freeread.com/archives/1633.html

Dan: So, when a human “graduates” to the god kingdom, what lives fuse?

JJ First remember that higher correspondences are loosely like the lower but are also different. The correspondences are never exact and the higher must be discern intuitively. Seeking an exact correspondence will never reveal the full truth for the life of God is always applying new intelligence on each new level.

We are all fragments of a greater whole. When a successful human molecule is created the various entities create stations for the atomic units but these may not be your true fragmented parts. As you enter the next kingdom your soul searches for your true parts that you will fuse with. It may be some time before this happens as other parts of yourself may not yet have entered the fifth kingdom but are regular humans not yet aware of you.

The Five Tibetans
July 10, 2011

Dan: So for those of us not at the gathering, what are the benefits of spinning JJ? And why is one direction (clockwise, if you laid a clock face-up on the ground) better than the other?

JJ I got an email from a woman’s only website that was supposed to contain a weight loss secret connected to spinning. I guess with a handle like “JJ” they didn’t know I was a guy. I decided to check it out. The site is at: http://www.weightlossguideforwomen.com

The author says she has received many positive comments of improvements in health from people who practice spinning clockwise, but if they spin the other way nothing much happens.

I found the book you linked to enlightening, however, because it explains the principle of activating the spinning energy centers in the body with a number of exercises. I plan on diligently applying these and monitoring the results.

The Five Tibetans
July 10, 2011

Spinning (was Re: The Five Tibetans

Ruthangel I’m wondering if clockwise or counter clockwise had anything to do with the hemisphere???

JJ The body needs to spin clockwise not because of anything esoteric but because the energy centers it stimulates spin that direction. The clockwise spinning stimulates the spin of the centers in their natural direction and this increases energy flow to the whole body. That is the teaching anyway.

It is true that the natural spin of our various centers is linked to higher things but that is another subject.

I’d recommend reading the booklet Larry and Dan referenced.

Diet Sodas
July 11, 2011

I want to thank all those who came to the gathering. It was one more special occasion. A lot of the attraction for the group is just meeting each other and mingling.

The theme for the gathering was health and we covered a lot of good material but there were several things that I forgot to mention. One very important one was diet sodas and artificial sweeteners.

From the time I first tasted artificial sweetener I knew that they are not good for you. It tastes like nothing natural on earth – like it is manufactured from some chemical waste dump.

What really amazed me is how many people used them and seemed to actually like them. The only explanation I can think of is you acquire a taste after you use them for a while. As for me this was not something I want to acquire a taste for but even so a couple times a year I may drink something with artificial sweeteners as it is in so many things that it is difficult to avoid completely.

It is difficult to tell what has artificial sweeteners from the label as there are so many variations of them with numerous names. I read that they are sometimes added to natural sweeteners and not listed in the ingredients. Sometimes the only way you can tell is from the taste.

Below is the results of several studies showing some of the disadvantages. It is interesting that people use them to save calories, but those who drink diet sodas gain more weight than those who use regular sugar drinks.

I think the problems it causes are much greater than revealed by any study so far. Michael J. Fox was famous for endorsing Diet Pepsi and look at he poor guy now. I wouldn’t be surprised if the diet drinks weren’t largely responsible for his condition.

Anyway – here’s some thought provoking data.

The Studies

People who drink diet soft drinks don’t lose weight. In fact, they gain weight, a new study shows.

The findings come from eight years of data collected by Sharon P. Fowler, MPH, and colleagues at the University of Texas Health Science Center, San Antonio. Fowler reported the data at the annual meeting of the American Diabetes Association in San Diego.

“What didn’t surprise us was that total soft drink use was linked to overweight and obesity,” Fowler tells WebMD. “What was surprising was when we looked at people only drinking diet soft drinks, their risk of obesity was even higher.”

In fact, when the researchers took a closer look at their data, they found that nearly all the obesity risk from soft drinks came from diet sodas.

“There was a 41% increase in risk of being overweight for every can or bottle of diet soft drink a person consumes each day,” Fowler says. More Diet Drinks, More Weight Gain

Fowler’s team looked at seven to eight years of data on 1,550 Mexican-American and non-Hispanic white Americans aged 25 to 64. Of the 622 study participants who were of normal weight at the beginning of the study, about a third became overweight or obese.

For regular soft-drink drinkers, the risk of becoming overweight or obese was:

26% for up to 1/2 can each day 30.4% for 1/2 to one can each day 32.8% for 1 to 2 cans each day 47.2% for more than 2 cans each day.

For diet soft-drink drinkers, the risk of becoming overweight or obese was:

36.5% for up to 1/2 can each day 37.5% for 1/2 to one can each day 54.5% for 1 to 2 cans each day 57.1% for more than 2 cans each day.

For each can of diet soft drink consumed each day, a person’s risk of obesity went up 41% http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050613/drink-more-diet-soda-gain-more-weight

New research that links diet soda consumption with an increased risk of heart attack and stroke has doctors urging caution about the controversial and preliminary results. According to a study of more than 2,500 people presented today as a poster at the American Stroke Association International Stroke Conference in Los Angeles, people who drank diet soda daily had a 61 percent increased risk of cardiovascular events compared to those who drank no soda, even when accounting for smoking, physical activity, alcohol consumption and calories consumed per day. “This study suggests that diet soda is not an optimal substitute for sugar-sweetened beverages, and may be associated with a greater risk of stroke,” Hannah Gardener of the University of Miami and her colleagues reported at the conference. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartHealth/diet-soda-linked-heart-attack-stroke-ri\ sk/story?id=12868269

Watch your kidneys, folks.

Researchers analyzing the health habits of thousands of nurses found that women who drank two or more diet sodas daily had a two-fold increase in the risk of a significantly faster drop in their kidneys’ ability to filter blood compared with those who drank one or none.

Another analysis by the same pair of Harvard researchers found that eating a lot of salt also hurt kidney’s filtering power over time.

“While more study is needed, our research suggests that higher sodium and artificially sweetened beverages are associated with a greater rate of decline in kidney function,” Dr. Julie Lin, a kidney specialist at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, said in a statement. http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2009/11/diet_sodas_may_hurt_kidneys.html

Does Obama Exist?
July 12, 2011

Here’s an interesting article that Sterling found. I wonder if a factcheck site has checked into this.

JJ

http://www.rense.com/general94/isthere.htm

Re: Does Obama Exist?
July 13, 2011

I figured someone must have checked this out and there would be some evidence of his past, but considering the meager evidence of his existence in the past I thought “Does Obama Exist?” was a funny question to ask.

Re: Does Obama Exist?
July 13, 2011

Blayne: Snopes is not reliable they have been caught lying several times.

JJ I have found all these fact check places to be suspect and partisan. They all seem to originate from the left and attempt to make the right wing seem like the crazy ones as if the left is where reason resides.

Sex & the Throat Center
July 15, 2011

There were questions a while back regarding sex and the throat center. Here are a few interesting things from the Bailey writings on the subject:

This point has been enlarged upon because so many people, and particularly men, find that the animal nature requires attention when they begin to meditate. They discover within themselves uncontrolled desires, plus physiological effects which cause them acute trouble and discouragement. A person may have a high aspiration and a strong urge towards spiritual living and yet have aspects of his nature still uncontrolled. The energy that pours in during meditation pours down through the mechanism and stimulates the entire sex apparatus. The weak point is always discovered and stimulated. The cure for this situation can be summed up in the words: control of the thought life and transmutation. An intense mental preoccupation and interest should be cultivated in other directions than the line of least resistance sex. There should be an endeavor at all times to keep the energy contacted in the head and to permit it to work out through creative activity of some kind. The eastern teaching tells us that energy, usually directed to the functioning of the sex life, has to be raised and carried to the head and throat, particularly the latter, as it is, we are told, the centre of creative work. To put it in western terms, this means that we learn to transmute the energy utilized in the procreative process or in sex thoughts and use it in the work of creative writing, in artistic endeavor, or in some expression of group activity. The tendency in modern times to find the one-pointed thinker and purely mental type evading marriage and as he frequently does leading a purely celibate life, may be a demonstration of the truth of the eastern position. It is causing a good deal of concern among those who study our falling birth rate. Transmutation is not surely the death of an activity or a cessation of functioning on any level of consciousness for the sake of a higher. It is the right utilization of the various aspects of energy wherever the Self feels they should be used for the furthering of the ends of evolution, and the helping of the Plan. The mind, illumined by the soul, should be the controlling factor, and when we think straight, live straight, and raise all thoughts and energies into the “Heavenly places” we shall solve our problems through the development of a spiritual normality which is greatly needed at this time, particularly among aspirants and esoteric students. From Intellect to Intuition, Pages 259-261

The first indications of glamour arose when the disciples and the aspirants of the Lemurian world (whose problem was the right comprehension, correct functioning and control of the physical body) began to differentiate between themselves, as self-conscious beings, and physical and vital forces. That immediately set up a tremendous activity in the throat centre which is the higher aspect of the sacral centre (the sex centre) and thus led to the initial glamour and to the first definite recognition and consideration of the sex impulse, of sex attraction, and for the initiate of that period of the necessary sex transmutation. This went hand in hand with the earliest Yoga, or the cult of the physical body with the objective of its control by the soul, and the consequent merging of the conscious and the subconscious. Glamour Page 107

Rule 11.

Let the disciple transfer the fire from the lower triangle to the higher, and preserve that which is created through the fire of the midway point.

This means, literally, the control by the initiate of the sex impulse, as usually understood, and the transference of the fire which now normally vitalises the generative organs to the throat centre, thus leading to creation upon the mental plane through the agency of mind. That which is to be created must then be nourished and sustained by the love energy of nature issuing from the heart centre. Initiation, Human & Solar, Page 204

Apart from a consideration of this along the lines of the conservation of energy, there is another angle from which the aspirant approaches the problem and that is the transmutation of the vital principle (as manifested through the physical organism) into the dynamic demonstration of it as manifested through the organ of sound, or creation, through the word, the work of the true magician. There is as all students of occultism know, a close connection between the organs of generation and the third major centre, the throat centre. This is apparent physiologically in the change of voice seen during the adolescent period. Through the true conservation of energy and abstention from incontinence, the yogi becomes a creator on the mental plane through the use of the word and of sounds, and the energy which can be dissipated through the activity of the lower centre is concentrated and transmuted into the great creative work of the magician. This is done through continence, pure living and clean thinking, and not through any perversions of occult truth such as sex magic and the enormities of the sex perversions of various so-called occult schools. The latter are on the black path and do not lead to the portal of initiation. Light of the Soul, Page 200

The energy of the sacral centre which feeds the generative organs is in due course of time transferred into the throat centre. The creative process is then carried on by thought, sound and the spoken Word. Hunger and thirst are the two aspects of desire, the one, hunger, being positive, masculine and grasping; the other, thirst, being negative, feminine and receptive. Those two words are but symbols of the two great impulses underlying the sex impulse. When these impulses are dominated and controlled, then the energy of the centre lying behind the organs concerned, can be carried upward to the throat, and hunger and thirst are arrested in the esoteric sense. It should be borne in mind here that these two words are the physical plane analogies to the great pairs of opposites which the yogi has to balance and which he does balance when the solar plexus is performing its highest function. Light of the Soul, Page 312

First, the energies below the diaphragm have to be lifted up and blended with those above the diaphragm. With the process and rules for so doing we cannot here deal, except in one case, the raising of the sacral energy to the throat centre, or the transmutation of the process of physical reproduction and of physical creation into that of the creativeness of the artist in some field of creative expression. Through the union of the energies of these two centres we shall come to that stage in our development wherein we shall produce the children of our skill and minds. Where, in other words, there is a true union of the higher and the lower energies, you will have the emergence of beauty in form, the enshrining of some aspect of truth in appropriate expression, and thus the enriching of the world. Where there is this synthesis, the true creative artist begins to function. The throat, the organ of the Word, expresses the life and manifests the glory and the reality behind. Such is the symbolism lying behind the teaching of the fusion of the lower energies with the higher, and of this, physical plane sex is a symbol. Mankind today is rapidly becoming more creative, for the transfusion of the energies is going on under the new impulses. As we develop the sense of purity in man, as the growth of the sense of responsibility is fostered, and as his love of beauty, of colour and of ideas proceeds, we shall have a rapid increase in the raising of the lower into union with the higher, and thereby the beautifying of the Temple of the Lord will be tremendously accelerated. Esoteric Psychology, Vol 1, Page 289

 

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Sarah Palin & Paul Revere

June 8, 2011

The media, which has a very elementary and sound bite knowledge of history attacked Sarah Palin unmercifully as an idiot, but now it appears that they are the idiots because a little research reveals her statements on Paul Revere and the British were correct.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1343353 http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2011/06/06/sarah-palin-was-right-\ about-paul-revere http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730566/posts

Sarah Palin

June 12, 2011

Here is a letter I just submitted to my local paper. I hope to have another post for my book ready for you tomorrow.

JJ

There are now two main quotes given out by the ignorant in an attempt to portray Sarah Palin as an idiot.

First many are still using the quote attributed to Palin: “I can see Russia from my house.”

A Zogby poll showed that 86.9% of Obama voters believe this even though it originated with Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live.

Here is what Sarah actually said: “You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”

This statement is 100% true. I learned this over 50 years ago in grade school.

Recently Palin made the statement that Paul Revere warned the British about the rebels. The media universally jumped on her.

Not so fast. When Revere was captured by the British he did warn them. He told them of the army’s movement from Boston, and that British army troops would be in danger if they approached Lexington, because of hostile militia gathered there. He was attempting to misdirect them but he did warn them just as Palin said.

Since it is now common knowledge Sarah was correct I was disappointed to see the editorial cartoon in today’s (June 10th) paper making fun of Sarah for being wrong on this.

Re: Lucid Dreaming

June 12, 2011

Blayne > I know that DK talks about continuity of consciousness and how when mastered it will change the whole process of death and take the mystery out of it and change the way we die etc. He says to start practising to maintain consciousness during sleep. >

JJ Yes, DK was talking about continuity of consciousness on the mental plane, not the astral where dreams occur. At sleep our mental self leaves the body and the astral remains. Dreams are produced by the emotional body – this explains why they usually make no sense and you have little power of decision within them.

With Lucid dreaming one forces some consciousness from the mental plane to enter the astral, but this may sacrifice something you were attempting to do on the mental plane.

When the mental self returns on awakening we usually remember nothing it did, but only a few astral dreams. The only way to attain continuity of consciousness is to assiduously apply exercises like DK recommends. If something important is realized on the mental plane during sleep you will attempt to send yourself a message through the dream state so some dreams do have messages. If it is important you will have a serious feeling about the importance of a dream.

Global Warming

June 15, 2011

Mary Ellen wrote: I have always had the impression that JJ did not believe Global Warming to be true or viable. I guess I’m wrong, but I DO believe it’s a scam to distract us.

JJ I have always said I believe what the data reveals until better data comes along and have stated a number of times that the earth has warmed about one degree in the last 100 years according to land based measurements. Most global warming skeptics agree with this.

However, I have always been against the global warming alarmists who think this is the end of the world. I think the warming we have had so far has been a good thing. One degree warmer is much better than one degree colder.

I also think most of the warming and cooling is related to natural cycles with human activity contributing some, but not as much as the alarmists say.

I’ve also said that CO2 is a fertilizer and a certain amount of increase will make for a greener healthier planet.

The one thing that should cause some alarm is the decrease of oxygen in our atmosphere, but you do not hear much about that.

I’ve also stated somewhere that we are more likely to be entering a cooling cycle than a warmer one.

Re: Molecular Business

June 17, 2011

Larry Woods says,

The greatest problem with a corporation is their myopic interest in profit only. So they seem perfectly willing to make sweetheart deals with government giving them special privileges of all kinds such as tax breaks, pollution allowances, and much more. Another difficulty is lack of liability. No owners (shareholders) ever incur any liability if the corporation poisons a bunch of folks or destroys an entire river ecosystem or some other evil thing. How would a molecular business do any better?

JJ The design of the Molecular Business is to first create a more efficient business model that will make a good profit. The second is to put all employees into a more equal relationship and pay. This is done through free will and not force, as today’s liberals so desire. Because the business is employee owned they will be more flexible. If they all have to take a pay cut to survive they can take this action or give themselves a raise if there is more profit.

As far as insuring virtuous actions by the corporation there is never any guarantee of that but the Molecular Business should be more constructive and less destructive than most because:

(1) All employees have a voice and if the leaders get too destructive the will be voted out and replaced.

(2) Because the company is employee owned there will be a greater sense of responsibility to make good decisions.

(3) As the spiritual molecules grow leaders in the Molecular Businesses will draw from them. These people will have service to humanity as their objective.

Larry: What is the “bottom line” for the molecular business? Profit?

JJ Profit is the prime objective of any business. If a business cannot make a profit then it cannot even exist.

Because all employees will be a part of the business I do not expect tem to go for a profit at any price but to make a profit doing constructive work.

Larry: Profit-only gives today’s corporations that vacant stare that everyone hates so much.

JJ Modern corporations are not perfect but the hatred you speak of is mostly based in illusion. Many people of today are like programmed robots that do not think for themselves. They need to be educated.

I do not recall any private corporation ever taking anything from me that I didn’t want to give them once in my entire life yet government does this every day

Larry If a customer slips and falls at the porch of the retail building, does the molecular business take liability?

JJ Of course – a Molecular Business would have to have liability insurance just like any other company.

Larry: Or do they employ the tricks of traditional corporations to avoid responsibility?

JJ Such things are usually handled by the insurance company rather than the business. And the gouging works both ways. Consumers will often fake injuries and pretend they are worse than they are to get an undeserved settlement.

Larry That one incident could potentially wipe them out, especially when they are small before much growth.

JJ That’s why you have insurance.

Larry: If the workers are also owners, then they will end up personally liable for every problem when they go to court? Are the workers not real owners but merely stock holders?

JJ They are owners through the holding of stock. That does not make them personally liable any more than employees in other corporations.

Larry If so, then when the Molecular Business hires new workers, must they buy in? JJ A new employee starts out with no stock but receives stock as a bonus as time goes on or he can purchase it.

Larry: If the Molecular Business hires hirelings instead of shareholders and then some founders retire or get disabled or for whatever reason stop working but remain as shareholders, then over time it will just be another corporation with hirelings and separate shareholders.

JJ It was always designed to be like a regular corporation as far as stock is concerned except part of the pay to employees will be in stock. If someone retires and wants to hold on to their stock that is good for the company because it gives them more cash to work with.

Larry: So what does a “harmless” Molecular Business do about the general idea of liability and of new workers and of new compared to retired workers or shareholders or owners?

JJ As I said, it would have insurance. If the company does wrong it could get sued just like any other company.

Larry: Competition. I know the Molecular Business will face competition no matter what their product(s). When they are small this will not amount to much of a problem. But when their shoes or product(s) begin to compete with Nike or some other huge corporation, the big guy will take steps to disable them or to undercut them. For example, the British counterfeited the Continental dollars until the entire value of it amounted to nothing. Any large corporation will start negative and often unethical steps to undercut the competition such as ads defiling the brand name and do any number of other dirty tricks. They will pay off their Congressmen they bought to add excessive new taxes onto the Molecular Business. They will undercut in many unexpected ways because they are big and you are small and they don’t want you horning in. How will the Molecular Business respond to big competition?

JJ Just like the smaller businesses do today. You create a better product and have better service. I’ve been a small business owner most of my life and there are many advantages to being small as well as big. Some small business get destroyed through various practices of large companies but the good ones survive. Steve Jobs started Apple in his garage and no one stopped him. Bill Gates started Microsoft on a shoestring and IBM helped him get started by selling him DOS at a bargain price.

I’m not worried about big business. Government always concerns me though.

Time Travel

June 17, 2011

I heard this guy on Coast to Coast and his story is pretty amazing. He posts a picture of him at the Gettysburg address. You can see it here: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/basiago-s-time-travel-photo Click on the photo to enlarge.

This guy either has a heck of an imagination or a great story. The chances that we mastered time travel in the 60s is pretty slim, even if it were possible but it’s a fun story to follow.

I’ve also enjoyed following John Titor. He was close enough on some predictions to be eerie.

The Beast’s Influence on the Organic Food and Alternative Medicine Movem June 28, 2011

Good post Rob.

It was an interesting idea to use a taste test on organic and non organic foods, but there are several problems with Penn & Tellers experiment.

(1) There is not a lot of difference in taste in apples or bananas no matter how they are grown. These were the worst fruits to use for the test and probably why Penn & Teller used them. Strawberries would have been much better.

(2) A Lot of commercial organic farms do not put many minerals back in the soil and have less nutrition than the non organic. If Penn & Teller picked their fruit from a highly commercialized organic farm then it probably wouldn’t taste any better than non organic.

Strawberries or watermelons would have provided a lot better taste test as these have a huge difference in taste as the quality goes up. If these are raised in quality live soil with lots of minerals the taste will be very different than the highly commercialized fruit.

(3) How fresh the fruit is also makes a huge difference in taste. I notice that a lot of organic food for sale looks quite old and thus would have low nutritional value and not much taste. JJ

Comments

June 29, 2011

Thought I’d make a few comments on some recent posts;

JC I do not disagree with this, the operative word being “PRIMARILY”, but what I then like to know if for all the males who are now in the gathering, listening to JJ teach, which energy are you operating in male or female energy?

JJ Males can definitely be in the female position and females in the male. In the days of Jesus the disciples were female to Jesus, but then Jesus was female to the Christ who overshadowed him.

The fact that one is in a male or female body only indicates that over the course of a lifetime that he or she will be more in the energy represented by his body than its opposite. But within certain cycles of that life he will be in his opposite energy.

Dan: A Course In Miracles states that there is no order or difference in miracles.

What this means, then, is that it is just as easy to heal a cancer as it is to heal a mild headache. It is just as easy to heal a threat of nuclear war as it is to heal an argument between two little kids, because they are all the same thing. They all stem from one center point, which is the belief in separation or the belief in guilt. The problems are never out there in the world, but within our minds.”

JJ ACIM has a strange approach to this. It is obvious that it is more difficult to perform the miracle of bringing peace on earth to the world than healing a headache. But the book tells us that this world is not real and if we find the true reality the world just disappears and then peace on earth is no longer a problem because there is no earth. This seems like an escapist solution as not even the writer of ACIM had the earth disappear for her. If we had an ACIM reader just disappear from this illusion now and then this statement would have more credibility.

JC JJ has said that after we start forming stable molecules, we will need to experiment with different types of molecules with different numbers for different purposes. They will have different numbers of members, and perhaps different mixtures of energies. I would love to be a scientist studying all of this. Maybe we could try an all male molecule and balance it off with an all female molecule, and study them to find out if they serve any useful purpose. That’s just one idea. Another one might be to have 10 male-female couples, one female-female couple and one male-male couple. I’m just speculating. There are probably a lot of combinations that could be tried. An important point to consider is that for people who choose to participate in these experiments, we are literally messing with their lives and their spiritual connections, and great care must be taken to assist them. Also, the participant must be able to let go of their ego, for the greater good.

JJ Seekers will be experimenting with all kinds of combinations. Some will prove to be working molecules with certain qualities and some will not.

All combinations of humans working for he same goal create personality energy, but a molecule will create soul energy and there will be a big difference between the two. Remember to draw down the soul molecular energy the group must be accepted by the Master in charge.

John Lennon a Conservative?

June 30. 2011

In the Lost Key of the Buddha it was stated that1ohn Lennon was to become a spokesman for a new round of conservatism, but he was killed before he fulfilled his destiny. Many thought that this was far fetched because he seemed so ingrained in the liberal mindset.

Now some evidence has come out that he was turning conservative before he died. Take a look.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/28/lennon-was-a-closet-republican-assistant

Re: belief -> faith

July 1, 2011

Here are some previous comments I have made on faith in the past. The quintessential definition is given in Hebrews 11. When using the Greek one can see that Paul’s definition of faith corresponds very closely with the one I have given.

In the New Testament faith comes from PISTIS which is derived from the root word PEITHO which basically means “to prove a thing true or false by evidence, argument, reason or experiment and through the guidance of your inner authority.”

Those who boast of great religious faith remind me a lot of a neophyte in a multi-level marketing program. When entering the program they are pumped full of zeal by various distributors. I have met many of those individuals who think they are going to make a million dollars or so in the next year and they have unshakable faith that this will happen. But sooner or later hard facts and reality hits them and they realize that to be even moderately successful they will have to devote all their extra energies and efforts to this “part time” business. When faced with this hard fact over ninety per cent lose interest and drop away. Often, I have met one of these individuals at a later time and asked how their venture was going. Generally, they want to change the subject.

So the born again full-fledged gospel believing Bible thumping proselyter who does not want to apply work, will want to change the subject when his faith is put to the test. If he reads his Bible perhaps this scripture will glare him in the face: “He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool.” Proverbs 28:26

Those with unworkable faith merely trust in their heart, or their feelings, which is not faith at all. “Faith” comes from the Greek PISTIS and literally means: “a mental conviction one has proven true by argument or reason”. Thus if one has faith he will go to heaven he should be able to justify it by logical argumentation. One will notice that Paul, a big believer in faith, spent much of his time in logical argumentation.

The book of Hebrews gives an expanded definition: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” Hebrews 11:1

We can again find that the Greek will give us a much clearer translation here. “Substance” comes from HUPOSTASIS and in modern translations it is usually rendered “assurance” or “confidence”, but in reality one English word cannot do it justice. It more literally means “That state of mind which supports an idea through a sustained effort.” “Evidence” comes from ELEGECHOS which means “to prove a matter true or false”. The word indicates that faith establishes the true reality. Thus a clearer translation of the preceding verse would be: “Now faith is having that state of mind which sustains that which is hoped for and reveals the truth of those things we do not see.” This definition corresponds much better with the root meaning of the Greek PISTIS which is translated faith.

If we have faith we can sustain an idea until it is proven true or false. It is never a blind unreasoning belief.

The correct definition of faith should make the word more acceptable to the more enlightened and intelligent persons who were previously repulsed to using it. We see that Edison, for instance, had great faith. He sustained the idea of the light bulb until he proved its validity by making it a physical reality. When faith is sustained on a true principle a physical manifestation occurs. “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed.” Hebrews 11:3

We are also told: “But without faith, it is impossible to please Him” (God). Hebrews 11:6 Unless we can sustain an idea or conviction and prove it by argument or externalization we cannot please God.

By this scriptural definition of faith, I know of very few pious religious people who have any semblance of faith, but ironically, there are numerous non-religious people who have it.

If those who claim to have faith do not actually have it, then what do they have? After searching through numerous words in the Biblical Greek the closest I can find to match what is commonly miscalled “faith” is BLASPHEMOS which in the English means “blasphemer”.. BLASPHEMOS literally means “to hinder by stating an unfounded, rumored, or unreasonable statement”. Interestingly, most of those who claim to have faith cannot support their belief with any logical foundation or reasoning, but merely repeat what they have been taught. Therefore, instead of having faith they are committing blasphemy.

 

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The Intuition, Part 4

This entry is part 9 of 49 in the series JJ Lectures

The mind is not brain activity, the mind is reasoning, logic, putting 2 and 2 together to see how 4 is made and taking 4 and understanding that 4 is composed of four ones or two, two’s. Analyzing and reasoning and logic is what develops the true mind. You talk to many people who have done well in school and you find that they really are neophytes as far using logic and reasoning goes. Yes Artie.

Artie: So would you equate the brain with computer program and the mind with a computer programmer?

JJ: Yes kind of, when you develop the mind you realize that you are not a computer but when you just use the brain you function as a computer and you do not question because you pretty much do what you are told to do. When you begin to use the mind you realize that you are a larger being than you thought you were and that you can decide for yourself how you are going to be programmed and so to a degree you start to be your own programmer.

Audience: Inaudible

JJ: Yes to a degree but once you are talking about principles you are getting more into the intuitive area. I was on a mission when I was a young guy for the Mormon Church before they threw me out. They gave me this new companion and he had a 4.0 in college. Back in those days this was no easy accomplishment as compared to today where they give out good grades like candy. This was 1964-1965. We had to learn these six missionary lessons and memorize them word for word. I just could not believe this guy was a 4.0 because every time he gave a lesson he had to go through and re-memorize the whole thing over and over.

This is what really got me thinking about intelligence, I had like a 2.2 and he had a 4.0 and I never had to review at all; I was always ready to go. Then when we were given a new lesson I would read it over once and then just go and give it and he had to read it over and over and study it for like a month and I thought how in the world did this guy get a 4.0? I just did not understand it.

But then once I came to various realizations about what true intelligence was it began to fall into place. I had come across quite a number of other people that had also had good grades and I found that a lot of people that got close to a 4.0 grade average were not very bright in a lot of ways. On the other hand, there are always exceptions. I had a good friend of mine who had a 4.0 in college and he was very bright and he also played football. His 4.0 was in engineering and he had good emotional intelligence. This guy really had it all together and he was quite the guy and I really admired him a lot, so there are exceptions to every rule. If any of you people achieved high grades I am not putting you down at all.

Audience: Chuckling!

JJ: So the next step is to develop the mind and as we develop the mind we let the emotional and instinctive self go below the threshold of consciousness and we concentrate on reason, wisdom, philosophy. When we get into philosophy, we begin to think a lot about things. The person may go through different religious thinking and he may study different philosophers, he may go into business, which requires a lot of common sense. Business really teaches people to develop the mind because you cannot operate a business without knowing how things work and how to make it better, isn’t that right Wayne, Wayne has a business and it about drives him crazy I will tell you! Chuckling Anybody else have a business? You have a business right? Don’t you think that operating your business is good mental development?

Audience: Yes!

JJ: It forces you to concentrate on common sense. We may be lazy and not want to develop common sense but once you lose money it wakes you up and you pay attention.

Audience: The thing about my business is that it is below the level of consciousness, there are so many times that I do the same thing over again!

JJ: I understand that, I make signs and what I do is I listen to audio books while I am making signs so I am concentrating on the book and my hands are just doing the sign work.

Wayne from Audience: In my business you cannot anticipate all the stupidity with both employees and customers.

Audience: Laughing!

JJ: Laughing! Do you guys remember the story about Wayne where this guy took out the wrong tree in a clients backyard? I have heard a lot better stories than that from Wayne but I did not want to embarrass him by putting the real whoppers in my book “The Immortal.” He tells me some things and when I was writing about Wayne I thought, well I had better not put this in, for one thing people will not believe it and for another thing I do not know if Wayne would want it in there! Laughing! I think that was true about the guy who took out the wrong tree, Wayne you have had that happen several times, right.

Wayne: One was a about a $12,000 mistake.

JJ: Boy that will make you really start to examine yourself really quick when you make a mistake that big. That’s what business does, you will be gliding along and everything will be going fine and then something major will happen and then you step back and say wait I must be doing something wrong and we have to sharpen our edges here. It really forces you to think.

The business world is one of the main areas where we learn to think and reason. Religion and philosophy also requires us to figure things out. Now the trouble with religion is most people in religion are not thinking about it and they just take things in like a sponge. For instance, they will say, well yes when I take the Eucharist it turns into the actual body of Jesus and they do not even think about how silly that sounds. Maybe they say well yes there is a heaven and hell and I guess if I do not believe the right way then I am going to burn for all eternity. They do not think about the fact that the Bible says the God loves us more than we love our own children and why would he burn us for all eternity? They do not think about that but when the person develops the mind they will still think about religion but they will start analyzing and will think, “does this make sense?”

Would I take one of my children and throw him into a bunch of fires and have him burn forever and then after he burns up he is put back together so he burns again and he suffers over and over for all eternity, like the old time preachers say?

So they start thinking about these things and think, well this can’t be right because it makes no sense. And then often times people will create friction among the true believers so to speak. In the past these people that were developing their minds and asking questions were often put in prison or to death and had all kinds of bad things happen to them. We are very fortunate that we live an age where we can voice what we feel without somebody with a lot of authority coming after us and putting us in chains and torturing us to death. Probably all of us in the past have gone through that at one time or another.

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