Is a Knowledge of Reincarnation Helpful?

Is a Knowledge of Reincarnation Helpful?

The Question: How does a knowledge of reincarnation lead to right human relations and “the solution of all the problems of humanity?”

On the road to answering this question we have other questions:

Does the belief in reincarnation make us lazy about seriously moving ahead spiritually? Does the belief in one life only have a positive effect spiritually?

So what does all this have to do with right human relations?

First, let us look at a most important principle that governs good relationships:


The giving and receiving of honest, truthful communications is perhaps the most important ingredient of right relationships.

The easiest way to destroy a relationship is to deceive those in the relationship. This can create a distrust that can never be completely recovered.

So, what does deception have to do with reincarnation?

A wrong belief about this and other doctrines involves a self-deception and if the self is deceived then the communication with other selves will be deceptive also.

It is true that the resulting deceptive communication will not be intentional, but it will be deceptive nonetheless, thus obscuring right human relationships.

Let us take a look at one of the greatest relationship problems on the earth today. In some hotspots of the world we have terrorists who are willing to blow themselves up and kill innocent men women and children in the process to please their God.

What kind of relationship do the family victims have toward those who espouse such a philosophy? You are correct. It is generally abject hatred.

Now let us look at the cause of this willingness and eagerness for a devotee to sacrifice his life and kill innocent people.

In almost every case the suicide bomber believes in only one life.

He also believes that it is God’s will he destroy the opposing religion or race.

He also believes in an eternal heaven will be given him as a reward for fulfilling the will of God.

Now let us suppose this person was converted to the truth of reincarnation. How would he then view the situation?

The understanding of the law of rebirth brings in the law of cause and effect and makes it real. When the truth is seen the devotee would think twice about blowing up 50 people in a mixed crowd for he would be the cause of much needless human suffering.

How would he pay for such a crime in a future life? He took away the lives of children with no sensitivity to the feelings of the parents. To learn how the parent feels he may have to be reborn, become a parent and then suffer several of his children to be unmercifully killed by some madman.

The bomber perhaps killed a beloved spouse or two. He may have to pay this off in a future life by losing a loved one or two himself.

Now, the payment for such mistakes is not black and white in kind, but if his bomb kills 50 people he will have accumulated a debt of fifty lives. He will usually either have to suffer 50 unnecessary premature deaths or save fifty lives. Generally what happens is he will suffer enough to learn true empathy and pay the rest off with service of some kind. But the sad thing is that one so wild-eyed to kill himself and others for God will often take many lives and much suffering before he learns to walk in his brothers shoes.

A prime cause of hatred and poor relationships is intolerance for differences. This is especially true with physical differences such as race and differing belief systems. Terrorists often hate other races and beliefs.

Does an understanding of reincarnation alter this view?

Indeed. An understanding of reincarnation brings a realization that we have lived many lives and most of us have lived in many differing races and many belief systems. How can you hate a different race if you realize you may have been a member of that race a lifetime or two back? In addition, a hatred of a race will cause you to be born into that race in the future to force you to learn to love and understand them.

How can you hate a Moslem, a Buddhist, a Hindu, or a Jew if you realize that you have been there and may yet be born into many different religions in the future?

How can you hate gays when you realize that, no matter how straight you are now, that you are cyclically born with an attraction to the same sex and have to learn to wisely channel this energy?

How can you hate a criminal when we realize we have all been criminals in past lives?

How can we hate simple or backward people when we know that we have been simple and backward in our earlier lives?

How can you continue to hate your spouse when you realize that hatred will force you to meet again and learn to dispel the hatred? If he or she is hard to live with it would be wise to dispense with hatred so you do not have to put up with the negative personality many times in future lives.

Why would we want to hurt or injure anyone when we realize this creates a debt that we must pay, usually through the path of pain?

Indeed, the knowledge of the truth about reincarnation and cause and effect leads the disciple to the path of harmlessness. When correct understanding comes he daily, and sometimes hourly, contemplates how he can live his life so as to not harm another living soul.

Thus, we see that a basic doctrine such as reincarnation, which on the surface seems to have little to do with relationships, turns out to have much to do with them.

In the last reading assignment DK wrote:

“These ancient Mysteries were originally given to humanity by the Hierarchy and contain the entire clue to the evolutionary process, hidden in numbers, in ritual, in words and in symbology; these veil the secret of man’s origin and destiny, picturing to him, in rite and ritual, the long, long path which he must tread, back into the light. They provide also (when rightly interpreted and correctly represented) the teaching which humanity needs in order to pass from darkness to Light, from the unreal to the Real and from death to Immortality. Any true Mason who understands, even if only to a slight degree, the significance of the three degrees of the Blue Lodge, and the implications of that in which he participates, will recognise the above three phrases for what they are, and will recognise the significance of the three degrees. I mention it here with Masonic purpose because it is closely related to the restoration of the Mysteries and has held the clue (down the ages) to that long awaited restoration, to the platform upon which the required teaching can be based and the structure which can express (when freed of its Jewish names and nomenclature, which are long out of date, though right three thousand years ago) the history of man’s moving forward upon the Path of Return.” Reappearance of the Christ, Page 122

Here he makes an interesting statement that the nomenclature of the various mystery rites are outdated and need to be replaced by a new “platform” freed of old style religious dialog.

What do you suppose this new platform will be? What is needed today so that ceremonial magic will appeal to the masses?

“By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.” Benjamin Franklin (1706 – 1790)

Jan 29, 2005

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Number of Lifetimes


Number of Lifetimes

A reader, a student of Benjamin Crème, maintains that the average state of evolution of humanity increased 25-fold since the time of Christ. The reason he states for this is that new more advanced souls have come into incarnation.

He points out that since there were only 270 million on earth 2000 years ago and over 6 billion today that more advanced souls had to be brought in.

It is true that when certain spiritual advances come that advanced souls that have not incarnated for long periods will be born. A handful of such souls may already be born, but most of these are awaiting the time when the door to evil will be sealed shut, and such is not yet the case.

To increase the average point of evolution 25X for humanity as a whole would require a large number of such souls indeed. If you study the intelligence of the people of the past compared with the present there is no indication that spiritual evolution has made such an increase.

He further states that the lowest 41% of the people of today are at .1 or ten times advanced than the average at the time of Christ. This has no basis in either fact or reason, even if we consider that some more advanced souls have been born

The fact that there are many more people on earth today doesn’t necessarily indicate that new intelligent monads are coming into incarnation to fill the void. DK himself tells us that the population explosion is causing entities to incarnate more often to fill the gap. He also states that many are incarnating too soon to absorb the lessons of the past because of this circumstance.

Another important point to consider is this. A doubling of the population does not mean that twice as many souls will be needed for incarnation over an extended period.

Why is this?

Because of the great difference in the mortality rate. For a good portion of recent history, the average life span did not even reach the age of thirty. Some estimate it to be as low as 27 in the days of Jesus.

The average life span today is around 75 years. This means that there was almost three times the number of incarnations available for a similar time span 2000 years ago. In other words, the 270 million population in the days of Jesus would provide the birth frequencies as nearly 750 million today.

Even so, it is true that the shear increase in population has shortened the time between incarnations.

From my experience in taking people back into past lives I would guess that the average person (at least in the U.S.) has lived at least 3-4 lifetimes during the past 2000 years.

Crème again gives an illogical unprovable piece of data when he says that average humanity has advanced 25 times the point of the average in the time of Jesus. When one studies the history of the early Greeks and Romans the average people back then sound about as intelligent as they are today, but merely living in different circumstances.

There’s another point to consider and that is there is life in the earth as well as on the surface. This is taught in the scriptures several places. In the book of Revelations we read:

“And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.” Rev 5:2-3

Here we are told that there are men “under the earth.”

The Mormon scriptures say the same thing: “And this shall be the sound of his trump, saying to all people, both in heaven and in earth, and that are under the earth–for every ear shall hear it, and every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess…” D&C 88:104 Again, the scriptures says there are “people” “under the earth.”

DK gives similar evidence:

“It is His consciousness and His sensitive response to all forms and to all states of being and to all possible impacts and contacts which guarantees the developing consciousness of all the many lives within or upon this Earth of ours.”

Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle Pg 183

Here DK talks of lives “within or upon this Earth.”

If we consider that there is life within the earth then there could be a lot more opportunity for the 60 billion monads to incarnate than was previously realized.

Reader: You also write, “Where would I find the reference from DK on 1000 lives to reach perfection?”

JJ: Dk doesn’t give  a specific number though he say that one thousand is “the number of spiritual achievement.” Letters on Occult Meditation, Pg 80. I concluded this number by using the Law of Correspondences and corresponding a lifetime for each of the 1000 petals in the crown center.

Again the number 1000 comes up: In connection with the fourth world, Vyasa notes that it is the world of mastery, therefore the home of the Masters, and all liberated souls whose “food is contemplation” and whose lives are “for a thousand mundane periods,” therefore who have immortality. The Light of the Soul, Pg 300

The “thousand mundane periods” could represent 1000 lifetimes.

DK says repeatedly that there are many incarnations through which we must pass to achieve liberation. And even after we have gone so far as to achieve the first initiation we have a long ways to go to arrive at he second. He states:

“I would remind you here that many, many lives can elapse between the first initiation and the second-long, long interludes of silent and almost unapparent growth.” Discipleship In the New Age Vol 1, Pg 94-5

Then in other places he talks of the 777 incarnations of the human entity but then goes on to tell us the number is not exact.

Finally, he gives us a definite statement that the final number of incarnations is long indeed. He states:

“The initial vibration is slow and heavy, and millenia of lives have to elapse before the interchange of energy between the Ego and its reflection, the personal self (the lower threefold man) is such that the consciousness of the man occultly ‘awakens’ in the Hall of Learning. For advanced man at this time these incarnations took place upon the moon chain and in some cases upon certain planets connected with the inner round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Pg 825

Here we are told that it takes “millenia of lives” to achieve the Hall of Learning.

He further tells us that the number of lives we spend on a certain cycle will vary with the effort of the individual.

My conclusion is that each petal in the head does indeed represent a life and that such a life is a symbol of a step forward. Each of these 1000 steps may take several short lifetimes or perhaps a very successful one may cause us to take several steps.

One fact is certain. With the long journey we have ahead of us the average person is not going to leap ahead by a factor of 25X in a couple lifetimes.

When someone gives us an esoteric piece of data and the facts do not add up we must consider that it may be incorrect and use the highest we know in connection with the soul to formulate the truth. The mark of the beast must yield to the God within.

The reader quotes DK indicating that advanced humanity of today did not incarnate in earlier ages. By this he supposes that advanced humanity waited until this time to incarnate. This is possible for some souls, but he is misinterpreting DK here.

He tells us that the advanced souls of today did indeed refuse to incarnate for a period, but it was not recent history that they skipped but the primitive Lemurian days. And it was not only recently that they decided to incarnate, but began during earth life in Atlantean times many thousands of years before Christ.

He says:

“a large number of the present more advanced human beings came into incarnation in the middle of the Atlantean root-race.” Initiation, Human and Solar Pg 45

“As stated in various occult books, many of the present advanced humanity individualised on the moon chain, and only took physical bodies in the earth chain during the fourth root-race, thus escaping incarnation during the first three rounds, and the first two races of the fourth round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire Pg 364-5

Then he makes this interesting statement:

“The bulk of human beings are still Atlantean, still purely emotional in their reactions and in their approach to life. They are still governed predominantly by selfish desires and by the calls of the instinctual life. Our earth humanity is still in the Atlantean stage, whereas the intelligentsia of the world, and the disciples and aspirants, are passing rapidly out of this stage, for they reached individualisation on the moon chain, and were the Atlanteans of past history.” Esoteric Psychology Vol 2 Pg 25-6

Now according to Crème humanity before 2000 BC was at an average point of evolution of .002. If this were correct then the Atlantean consciousness would have been even lower since it stretches back in history hundreds of thousands of years.

Let us be generous with their spiritual evolution and use the more recent figure used by Crème of 2000 BC as their point and figure from there.

Now DK says in the above quote that “The bulk of human beings are still Atlantean… Our earth humanity is still in the Atlantean stage…”

The use of the word “bulk” would indicate more than half. A clue as to how much more than half is given his next statement: “the disciples and aspirants, are passing rapidly out of this (Atlantean) stage.”

Here we learn that even some advanced students have not left behind the Atlantean consciousness, but are in the process of going beyond it. But what percentage of humanity are disciples and aspirants? Very few, less than 1%.

This means that about 99% of the world today is at the Atlantean stage of evolution or at least they were in 1942 when DK made the statement.

The question then arises. How could average humanity be 125 times as advanced as the average of the population of 4000 years ago when 99% are still Atlantean in consciousness? The idea that we are progressing so rapidly is fanciful and does not harmonize with any of the ancient wisdom.

Reader: According to Benjamin Crème, the average number of lives between these initiations is around 7 or 8 or 9 lives – but can take up to 12 or 15 or even more lifetimes.

JJ This does not harmonize with the statement of DK: “I would remind you here that many, many lives can elapse between the first initiation and the second-long, long interludes of silent and almost unapparent growth.” Discipleship In the New Age Vol 1, Pg 94-5

7-9 life times is a far cry from “many, many.”

You seem to dispute the fact that it takes a thousand or more lives to achieve liberation. I was under the impression that you thought the number was less than a thousand. I was surprised to see you say that it takes hundreds of thousands of lifetimes.

DK does indicate it could be more than 1000. He says “The initial vibration is slow and heavy, and millenia of lives have to elapse before the interchange of energy between the Ego and its reflection, the personal self (the lower threefold man) is such that the consciousness of the man occultly ‘awakens’ in the Hall of Learning. For advanced man at this time these incarnations took place upon the moon chain and in some cases upon certain planets connected with the inner round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Pg 825

To achieve soul contact takes “millennia of lives.” This means over 1000 lifetimes though when he speaks of numbers over 1000 he could  be including lives we lived before this particular solar system or universe.

He also states: “What the Personality spends many thousands of lives in establishing is not going to be lightly altered when the Ego-working in the lower consciousness-seeks to effect a change.” Letters on Occult Meditation, Pg 82

Here he talks of “many thousands of lives.”

If it takes over a thousand lives to achieve liberation then it is impractical indeed that there could be enough lifetimes to speed the evolution of the average person 125 times in evolution since 2000 BC and 25 times since the time of Christ.

If liberation takes a hundred thousand lives, as you suggest, then average humanity would have to live through thousands of them over millions of years to move ahead as Crème suggests.

There is no indication in esoteric writings that a great influx of advanced souls are just coming in now to the extent that evolution is so speeded up. This also does not explain Crème’s statement that that average humanity increased in evolution five fold from 2000 BC to 1AD. There were not enough incarnations available to support such an increase, especially when you consider that the average person was lucky to get in one of his 1000+ lifetimes during that period.

Reader: There is a difference between intelligence and spiritual evolution.

JJ: I don’t think so. This may seem true if you gauge intelligence by the standard of brain activity, but intelligence goes far beyond this. There is emotional intelligence, intelligence of the higher mind, and spiritual intelligence.

A Master of Wisdom is called such because of intelligence. He is intelligent enough to Master wisdom.

“The glory of God is intelligence.”

Reader: Where does DK tell us that the population explosion is causing entities to incarnate more often to fill the gap?

JJ: DK writes: “For ages men have misused and wrongly employed a God-given function (procreation); they have prostituted their birthright, and through their laxity and license, and through their lack of control, they have inaugurated an era of disease, both mental and physical, of wrong attitudes and illusory relations which it will take several centuries to eradicate; they have also brought too rapidly into incarnation myriads of human beings who were not yet ready for the experience of this incarnation, and who needed longer interludes between births wherein to assimilate experience. Those souls who are unevolved come into incarnation with rapidity; but older souls need longer periods wherein to garner the fruits of experience. They are however open to the magnetic attractive power of those who are alive on the physical plane, and it is these souls who can be brought prematurely into incarnation. The process is under law, but the unevolved progress under group law as do the animals, whilst the more evolved are susceptible to the pull of human units, and the evolved come into incarnation under the Law of Service, and through the deliberate choice of their conscious souls.” Esoteric Psychology Vol 1 Pg 272

Here we are clearly told that that the high and low are both pulled prematurely into incarnation “who were not yet ready for the experience of this incarnation.” He says nothing about new souls coming in to fill the demand created with population increase.

He says they “needed longer interludes between births wherein to assimilate.” He is obviously talking about entities who have been incarnating all along and not a fresh round of souls.

As far as lives under the earth goes – DK says there are “many” different types there, but does not give enough details to settle any arguments.

You obviously have a sharp physical brain here which makes it surprising that you cannot see the flaw in Crème’s figures. If you examined his data with the same jaundice eye that you examine mine your belief system would be turned upside down.

I think that if Crème and I changed positions that you would accept anything I would put out without question.

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” Stephen Hawking

June 12, 2004

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Stelle and Reincarnation

Stelle and Reincarnation

In a recent post a member tells us he was involved with Richard Kieninger’s group. Richard is the author of The Ultimate Frontier and founder of the Stelle Group in Illinois and later The Adelphi Organization in Quinlan, Texas.

In his book, first published in 1963, he described a number of meetings with the Brotherhood of Light where he was given a numerous teachings and assignments.

He was told to build a city called Stelle in Illinois to prepare for a cataclysm which would come around 1977. He was told that it would soon reach a population of 250,000.

Richard was asked to leave his own group twice. He blamed his loss of power on conspiracies within, but those who tried him for memberships claimed sexual indiscretions.

He left Stelle permanently in the 1980’s and founded The Adelphi Organization in Quinlan, Texas.

He made additional prophecies of World War III in 1999 and that a new land would rise out of the Pacific Ocean on May 5, 2000 where a new nation would be created by their group. By this time 90% of the world’s population was to have been destroyed.

The last I heard of Richard he was in jail for bank fraud. I just went to the Adelphi Web site and it indicates he died in 2002. I’m not sure if he died in jail or not.

I read his book, The Ultimate Frontier over twenty years ago and found it very fascinating and had some quite interesting teachings in it. I found it interesting enough to call him up and ask him some questions and later take a trip to Stelle and check it out.

When I visited Stelle around 1982 there were only about a dozen people living there. Most had departed to Texas and the homes left were very unkempt and the little community was being overrun by weeds.

I talked to several who were living there to get a feeling of their mindset and was disappointed at their lack of independent thought – that they seemed to prefer an authoritative structure, very similar to the Mormon Church.

Richard’s followers say that he has contact with the true brotherhood and they are the source of his teachings. His critics say that he got his material from the Lemurian Fellowship from Ramona California that he joined in the 1950’s. Elizabeth Claire Prophet also got inspiration from this group.

Richard also teaches about the two brotherhoods, but instead of calling the bad guys the Dark Brotherhood he calls them “Black Mentalists.” He claims they control their followers with mind control.

Richard claims that the Masters who worked through H. P. Blavatsky and Alice A. Bailey were black mentalists, even though there seems to be no record of his teachers telling him this. It appears that he came to this conclusion on his own. He seemed to have very little knowledge of the Bailey teachings but did seem to study other esoteric trains of thought.

Several old timers in the group have been associated with Richard’s group. Rick, the founder of the Keys was very heavily into the group and lived and worked with them.

All things express their nature. As you wear a feeling it becomes your nature. It might take a moment or a year – it is entirely dependent upon the degree of conviction. As doubts vanish and you can feel “I AM this,” you begin to develop the fruit or the nature of the thing you are feeling yourself to be. Neville

Signs of Reincarnation

Question: Did you ever do a handwriting analysis of Alice Bailey and Joseph Smith? If they had so many similar experiences in their lives, then maybe JS came back as AB.

JJ: I think I mentioned a few months ago that I did come across Alice A. Bailey’s handwriting and rated her intelligence as not as high as H. P. Blavatsky. She was intelligent but not high enough to have invented the writings she scribed.

I had wanted to examine her handwriting for some time and finally found her signature for sale on E-Bay. I bid on it but didn’t get it, but did manage to download a scan of it.

Alice A. Bailey and Joseph’s Smith’s writing had too many fundamental differences for them to be the same person.

Proving identity of different lifetimes through handwriting is tricky because there will always be some changes. If we look at a person’s handwriting in his youth, middle and old age we will generally see some significant differences, yet there will be certain threads that will be very similar, especially when we look at basic intelligence. The quality of intelligence never reverses (unless there is brain damage) and this is the most telling thing to look for.

Discovering past lives through handwriting is what first convinced me of reincarnation and lead me out of orthodox religious thought.

As I said, normally handwriting varies within a lifetime, let alone several lifetimes, so a conclusive match is difficult to produce. However, I had a particular associate that was a good test case. I had the advantage of looking at this person’s writing from an early age and found that the handwriting had changed very little throughout this life. I therefore, concluded this would be a good test case as I had a feeling as to who this entity was in a past life.

I was fortunate to be able to obtain the writing of this person’s potential past life and when I laid the two handwritings side by side I was stunned.

I recently compared JFK’s writing with H. P. Blavatsky and was impressed by the similarities, (See post #803-805)  but in the case of my associate the comparison was almost an exact match. In addition, there were several little idiosyncrasies that I couldn’t recall seeing in any other handwriting that were in these two.

As I stared at these two writings that matched beyond any possibility of chance my consciousness instantly changed. I realized that reincarnation was a fact and that everything I believed had to be taken apart and put back together again.

That was back around 1972 and a lot of water has run under the bridge since then. Since that time I have received many other impressive witnesses of past lives, many of which I cannot talk about. Most teachers who talk about their past lives are deluded because of glamour and it usually serves no useful purpose even if they are accurate. Suffice it to say that if the handwriting sample didn’t convince me then other things that have happened since then certainly would have.

Reincarnation is indeed a pivotal doctrine for once the truth of it is seen we can no longer swallow orthodox religious thinking and are forced to use our own mind to find the real truth behind the illusions, the outward authorities and past programming.

“Let the weak man say, ‘I am strong’ (Joel 3:10), for by his assumption, the cause substance – I AM – is rearranged and must, therefore, manifest that which its rearrangement affirms. This principle governs every aspect of life, be it social, financial, intellectual or spiritual. Neville

Feb 23, 2004

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Blavatsky’s Return

The Evidence Says Yes.

HPB: “There is no religion higher than truth.”
JFK: “Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer.”

Born: Aug 12, 1831
Died: May 8, 1891
Born: May 29, 1917
Died: Nov 22, 1963

These pictures of John F. Kennedy and H. P. Blavatsky bear a haunting resemblance. Look first at the eyes. Even more than the similarity of the physical images of the eyes is the look of them both has a haunting correspondence.
Also note the shape of the face, the nose, mouth and ears are very similar.

These above pictures provide interesting food for thought but do not provide enough proof to convince the the sincere seeker. The real seeker will want something more concrete. In this rare case we have the something more. We have something as concrete as the fingerprints of these two entities. We have their handwriting.


The above sample of Kennedy’s writing is a draft of his inaugural address in 1961. Next to it is a  sample from HPB. Below is another sample of Kennedy’s writing from about 20 years earlier. Note that there are as many superficial difference between the two Kennedy samples as there is between the two above samples of the two entities.



Even though the pictures provide an interesting clue it was the handwriting of the two who clued me in. A friend gave me a web address containing H. P. Blavatsky;s handwriting. Up to this point I had only seen her signature, but when I finally got a chance to see a page of her writing I thought to myself: “There’s something familiar about this handwriting. It seems that I have seen it before.”

Having forty (now sixty) years experience with hand writing analysis, I rarely forget a script. I reflected a few moments and then it hit me. It seemed that the handwriting of Ms. Blavatsky was very similar to that of JFK.

I immediately retrieved several samples of the late President’s handwriting and made comparisons. As I compared the two side by side I could immediately see why Blavatsky’s writing had a familiar ring. They were very close indeed ­ close enough to make a powerful case that H. P. Blavatsky reincarnated as John F. Kennedy and became President of the United States.

It is interesting that many students of past lives believe that JFK was Abraham Lincoln in a past life because of the many synchronicities between the lives and associations of the two men. I never believed this, however. The reason is that I compared the handwriting of these two and concluded the differences were too basic for them both to be the same entity, even if we take into consideration that there will be some changes from life to life. Since there are changes in handwriting and personality from decade to decade within a single life it is only logical that there would be changes from life to life.

But the question is this: What would change from life to life and what would stay the same?

That which would change would be personality characteristics, cultural attitudes, the tendency toward being an introvert or extrovert and other more superficial things.

That which would remain similar would be related to intelligence. The intelligence would rarely be less as we progress from life to life, but would increase.

The intensity of feeling would also be quite similar as well as the emotional response ­ though emotional response does vary with time, especially if the person faces a trauma of some kind.

That said, take a look to the two handwriting samples and follow me in comparing them.

The most impressive thing to note is the basic intelligence manifested between the two ­ not only brain intelligence, but also emotional intelligence. When we look at the whole picture of the speed of thought, the perception, the passion, the ability to simplify, the aggressiveness etc we see here the handwriting of two of the most intelligent individuals in our history.

JFK is a little more intelligent overall than HPB but this is to be expected if the two are the same entity with JFK having a few years of extra learning under his belt.

Now let us itemize the similarities.


The easiest thing for the layman to see in the handwriting is the general slant. If one makes even a cursory look at the samples above he can see that the slant is very similar. This reveals the general outward emotional makeup.

More subtle and not so easily seen by the layman are the upstrokes in m’s, n’s and other letters which reveal the more inner emotional makeup.

These strokes revealing this inner makeup are also very similar.

This is revealed by the pressure of the writing. Heavier pressure is usually revealed by heavier strokes, but since these samples were created with different pens and we do not have the originals it takes the skill of experience to make a judgment here. In my judgment the pressure is very similar. As evidence of this even the untrained eye can look at the samples and surmise that all of them were written with great intensity and higher than normal pressure applied to the pen.

Now we will examine more closely some other interesting similarities of the handwriting between the two entities. We could belabor this by going through them all one by one, but we will limit our investigation to the more unusual characteristics not found in most handwriting samples.

If, for instance we pinpoint two strokes found in common to 50% of all handwriting that does not present us with much proof, but if we present two items found only on one handwriting out of 100 then we have something. Then if we present two such characteristics we have an increased probability of 100X100 or one chance in 10,000 for the two showing up.

In the next section we will present enough similarities to increase the chances to over a million to one that H. P. Blavatsky and JFK are the same person.

First let us examine the similarities of words that are common to both handwritings. Since I have limited samples of each I was only able to pull a few exact word matches, but this is enough to be impressive indeed. They are more similar than one would expect even if it were a known fact that the two are the same entity separated by 60-80 years of time and circumstance.


One of the most significant similarities between the writings are the gaps within individual words. These two also have short breaks with similar regularity within various words. This is fairly common and shows an intuitive nature, but these larger gaps are fairly rare, especially among the very intelligent.

Such gaps reveal a disconnected thinking that breaks somewhat from reality and is often found among those with low intelligence, drug users or someone physically ill. We know that JFK took an enormous amount of drugs throughout his life and was also plagued with painful illness which he attempted to mask.

Correspondingly, H. P. Blavatsky also suffered from painful illness. It is quite possible that she took some strong medications for them but I do not have any data on this. It is on record that she smoked up to 200 cigarettes a day and this by itself would inject an enormous amount of nicotine in the system.

Even so, neither illness or the use of drugs provides the full explanation. The reason is this. Most people who are ill or use drugs will have a half dozen signs of it show up in the writing. The handwriting of these two entities reveal a very powerful vitality, intelligence, clear thinking and strength, except for this one characteristic. This tells us that both of these individuals exercised the power of tremendous will to divorce themselves from their physical maladies to live life as if they were healthy, vital personalities.

This leads me to draw an unorthodox analysis of the gaps for both entities. I think the gaps would be there for both of them with or without ill health or drug use. While ill health or drug use may make the gaps more pronounced I think the cause is related more to a virtue than a vice.

I believe that both of them contemplated the abstract/spiritual world in his own way and periodically divorced themselves from orthodox thinking and reality as wee know it in the search for answers. The gaps thus show a disconnect, but an intelligent disconnect that added to their creativity.

Whatever the case, such gaps are not at all common among the super intelligent and are rare in this writing combination. Take a look. The first gap in the word “ask” is particularly synchronous.

Examples of Gaps
JFK ………………. HBP


One thing that amateur forgerers do not realize is that the handwriting expert will detect him by too much consistency. When people write they do not sign their names exactly the same each time. Neither do they cross their T’s or dot their I’s in exactly the same place. All of us vary our handwriting as we vary our moods. One thing we look for in finding a handwriting match is a similar amount of variance between any two scripts.

There is an amazing amount of consistency in both small and large gaps in the handwriting of Kennedy and Blavatsky, but how about other factors?

Let us now examine the lower zone of the two handwritings. In this area there is usually some variance, but not like that expressed by Kennedy and Blavatsky. Note that within the variety of the strokes still exists a hauntingly close correspondence.

Again, note the first one which is vary rare ­ consists of two strokes. Maybe one out of a 1000 handwritings would have this oddity.

Lower Zone
JFK ………………. HBP

Another interesting trait revealed is the T cross. The layman may think that there could be only a couple variables in this, but they are mistaken. There are hundreds of ways to cross a T.

Among them are:

(1) The location of the cross on the stem varying from low to above the stem.
(2) Does the cross ascend, descend or go straight from left to right?
(3) Is the pressure heavy or light?
(4) Is it long or short?
(5) Does it create an arc?
(6) Is the arc convex or concave?
(7) Does the stroke increase of decrease on strength?
(8) Does it go to the left or right of the stem?

Considering the number of variables the chances are very high against the fact that we would have two handwritings matching up like these two.

JFK ………………. HBP

An ending stroke that boldly extends shows courage or gutsiness. Again, this is revealed in both scripts.

JFK ………….. HBP


Waves in writing show charm. We know that JFK certainly had this, but so did H. P. Blavatsky. Too bad we do not have her on film so we could have witnessed her personality.

JFK ………….. HBP


Both JFK and H. P. B had the odd habit of making extra heavy i-dots or periods every so often and then making dots with regular pressure the rest of the time. Blavatsky used a fountain pen so her strokes are not as thick as JFK’s for that reason.

JFK ………….. HBP

Note that in the two signatures below they both placed two dots under their names. This is another oddity showing up in both writings. In the 1963 signature Kennedy was under stress. The 1961 signature shows him at his best. From an analyst’s point of view this is a very beautiful signature.

Both individuals underlined items as they wrote.

JFK ………….. HBP




I could spend a lot of time going into small details but here are a number of other important similarities.
(1) The speed of the writing is very similar. They both have a quickness that is shared by less than 1% of the population. The overall intelligence in both handwritings from my analysis is over one out of a million.
(2) The simplification of the writing is very close, with JFK using the fewer strokes ­ another sign of him being a little ahead in evolution.
(3) Perception revealed by the points on m’s, n’s are similar. The similarity is closer if we use JFK’s earlier handwriting.
(4) Both stretch their words out to a similar degree showing them both to be extroverts.
(5) All three zones of the handwriting are similar. We already illustrated the lower zone as with the Y’s, F’s etc. In addition to this the middle and upper part of the writing is very similar.
(6) JFK’s intelligence is a little higher than HPB. This would be true if he was H. P. Blavatsky in a later life.

Is anything in the writing different?

Yes, of course. Just as there are differences in Kennedy’s two samples spanning decades even so will there always be differences in the personality and the handwriting in different lifetimes.

Even so, the differences are less pronounced than expected giving us an excellent case proving reincarnation.

The two most obvious differences are:

(1) The space between the lines of the first two samples. H. P. Blavatsky’s is quite a bit closer together. But then note that the earlier sample from JFK (closer to the HBP lifetime) has his lines with less space between them. This tells us that this characteristic was an evolving trait during the JFK lifetime ­ probably a result from his rising fame which caused him to desire more “space.”
(2) H. P. Blavatsky’s ending stroke on her D’s had an upward flare that was missing in Kennedy’s writing. This is explained by the fact that many handwritings from the 1800’s had this characteristic. This trend became rare in the next generation. As we progress from life to life we often adopt the strokes that are popular. For instance, during the Hippie era many were dotting their eyes with happy faces. Few would consider doing this today.

Overall, the similarities are amazing and from this analysts’ point of view we have here a proof of identity comparable to fingerprints.

Jan 6, 2004

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Past Life Regression, Part 1

Texas Gathering, Part Eleven
Past Life Regression, Part 1

Assaf begins the session by singing the Beatles’ song, “I Will”.

JJ: There’s no such thing as a bad Beatle’s song, is there? I always liked that one. I was looking at my watch. I think it’s probably a good time to do the regression part of our Gathering. Is ever body ready to go back into the past? How about the future? Would you like to discover a future life? Your soul actually has your future lives projected.

Speaking of that, I’ve been contemplating somewhat about time. We hear a lot of teaching about how there is an eternal now and everything is happening at once. I don’t think it’s quite happening that way. Things do happen in sequential periods of time but the eternal now is not where everything is happening at once, so to speak; instead there is a place that is beyond time. When you die and go into the higher worlds, time is not measured the way it is here. But when you’re reborn, time has actually passed so it’s not like everything is happening at once. When we go to the higher worlds we go to places where time isn’t measured the way it is here. Yet time is still passing here even when we’re in the higher worlds. When we come back down to the lower worlds time has passed. It’s a popular teaching to teach that everything is happening at once. I don’t believe that’s exactly the way it’s transpiring. It’s just the fact that time is not measured in the higher worlds. It’s like you’re in a state of consciousness where there is no time. So you go out of time then back into time rather than into a place where everything is happening at one time. Yet there is also a way to step back and look at the canvas of eternity where we can see the past and the future unfolding yet these are like projections instead of the actual unfoldment. We come down here on the earth and here upon the earth we go through the actual unfoldment of time.

So we’re going to take some of you back into time. Usually when I’ve done these regressions the majority of the people can go back. Some people go back much more easily than others. Some go back and replay it just like they were really there. Others go back and get some memory and others just get impressions. You have all kinds of different experiences. Those who go back and relive the past completely with 100% recall are always very interesting cases, especially if they had an interesting past life.

It’s funny when I was teaching about past life and doing past life regressions was how I first met my wife. She came to a past life regression I did then came later to the handwriting courses I was teaching. At that time, shortly after I became fairly well known for doing past life regressions in the area a local TV station said they were doing a series on new age things. It turned out that they were actually attempting to make us all look very bad. So, they did a series on us and I took a person back in a past life regression for the TV crew. She went back to the days of Jesus which was very interesting. I’ve only taken two people back to the days of Jesus that sounded credible. A lot of people think they lived in the days of Jesus but when you look at it statistically only a few of us probably did but yet somebody had to. I’ve had a couple people go back and give some interesting accounts. Maybe one of you were back there. Who knows?

It’s also possible if you contact the soul 100% that you can draw back memories that aren’t even your own or actual true memories. That sometimes happens. Sometimes people will pick up memories, especially in the astral zone. If we pick something up from there you never know what you’ll come up with. It could be something true but it might not even be related to you 100%. But if you go back to one of your true past lives you will identify with it 100% and you will know if you hit a past life of yourself. Is everybody ready?

Everybody relax. Close your eyes. We’re going to use a guided meditation. I like using this better than hypnosis because we want you to be in full control of yourself and always be able to exercise your full free will.

Visualize yourself walking through a forest. You’re walking on a path through a wooded area. It’s a nice pleasant area. Birds are singing. You see little animals along the path and running through the forest. They’re friendly little animals. You feel very pleasant. It’s a pleasant experience. It’s just the right temperature, very slight wind. You’re walking along this path. It’s a very pleasant walk. You feel like you don’t have a care in the world. There’s nothing to worry about. There’s just you and nature and a nice day. The sun is overhead. Sunlight filters through the trees. It’s very pleasant. You’re walking along. You continue walking along this path and you come to a place where the forest ends. There is a mist and you feel like you want to walk into this mist. Your past is within this mist. Your past is there and you want to discover it. You proceed. You walk into this mist and the forest and the little animals and all the things behind you disappear. There is nothing here now except mist. You walk ahead. You’re not afraid. You’re comfortable and you proceed.

You see a blue circle of light, a small circle about the size of a silver dollar to you right. It’s like a marker of some kind. You walk past this then another one appears in front of you. As you keep walking you see another blue marker ahead of you. You take a couple more steps and you see another. Somehow you know that when you pass ten more markers you will be back in your past. Each one is taking you back, back into a past experience. We’re going to count the next ten markers. Proceed ahead. You’re walking past the first one. As you walk past the first one the mist gets a little lighter. Somehow you know that when you get to the tenth the mist will be completely gone and you will be back into your past.

You’re walking past the second one. The mist clears just a little bit more. You’re walking past the third one and it begins to lift a little bit more. You’re walking past the fourth. The mist clears a bit more. You’re walking past the fifth. It’s beginning to get a little bit lighter. You see a little bit in the background. You’re walking past the sixth one. It’s lighter still. You’re getting impressions about who you were. You’re going back with you feelings, your thoughts, you beliefs. You will feel what you felt then. You will hear what you heard then. You’re walking past the seventh. You hear a name. Focus on this name. The meaning or the image behind this name is coming to you. You’re walking past the eighth. This name is becoming clearer.

Say the name to yourself. Don’t say it audibly but say it to yourself over and over. As you say it you’re going back to when this name had meaning to you. Say the name over and over to yourself. You’re past the eighth and now you’re passing the ninth. Say the name over and over. As you say the name to yourself over and over the mist is lifting. It’s lifting more. Things are becoming clearer. You’re seeing what you saw then. You pass the ninth. Now you have one more marker to pass and the mist will be clear. It will be cleared away. You’re passing the tenth.

Now you’re back. You’re back into a life that you lived sometime ago. You can see what you saw then. You know what the name means. Think about this life. The first thing in this life you’re thinking about is what this name means. Now another name is coming to your mind. Say this name over and over to yourself. As you say this name over and over to yourself, you’ll begin to know all about this person; who this person is, whether it’s you or a friend and what this person meant to you. Now a word comes to your mind, a word related to this lifetime. Say this word over and over in your mind and the meaning of this word will pull you into a memory. Everything is becoming clearer. It’s becoming clear to you who you are.

I’m going to count to three and on the count of three you’ll be back in this previous lifetime. You’ll know who you are and the meaning of this lifetime will be clear to you. One, two, three. You know who you are. You know the lesson that you came to this lifetime to learn and you know what you learned and experienced. You know you are seeing people who were important to you. You see someone you loved. Someone else perhaps that you didn’t love. You understood what you did for a living. You understood what you believed in. Think about what you believed in; what you were taught. Did you do what you were taught? Think about that. It’s becoming clearer to you. Who are your parents? What did they teach you? What relationship did you have with them? Think about all these things that you learned in this lifetime.

Now I’m going to count to three and you’ll go back to a lifetime before this. I’m going to count to three and you’re going farther back. One, two, three. You know who you are. You’re thinking about a particular time. What is happening to you at this time? It’s an important time in your life. You’re thinking about what is happening and what you’re learning from this. It’s coming to you. You’re name is coming to you. I’m going to count to three and the name is coming to your mind. One, two, three. The name is coming to your mind. You know who you are. You’re going back to some of the early memories in this lifetime. You’re going to watch your life unfold, almost like you’re watching a movie. You see the beginning then you see near the end. You see everything in between. Pick a time that was important in this lifetime and look at it and experience it. Think of the impressions that are coming to you. Think of how you feel. Think of who you knew, who you loved and who you did not love. Who treated you well? Who did not treat you well?

Now spend a minute or two contemplating this lifetime. You can look at any part of this lifetime that you want, from the beginning to the end. Look over and relive any part of the life that you want. Think about it for a minute and let the feelings and thoughts come to you.

Very good. Now we’re going to move back into the present. When we move into the present you’re going to take all the memories with you so that you’ll be able to recall everything that you’ve seen and felt. I’m going to count to three and we’re going to all move into the present. One, moving into the present; two, you’re almost there; three, you’re in the present.

Who had some interesting experiences? Marylin?

Marylin: I don’t know where I went but I was beneath water and I was swimming. I don’t know when it was. Then you sent us back a second time and at the point where you said the scene was getting clearer I saw buildings all over the place. I saw figures in there but I was always high up over it. Then the third time I wasn’t on Earth. I don’t know where I was but I was a long way away.

JJ: Another planet or something?

Marylin: I don’t know; another dimension? I don’t know. It was somewhere else. I wasn’t alone. That’s something!

JJ: Have you done that before?

Marylin: No, not this way I hadn’t. I rehearsed in my head a long time ago. I was walking down the forest path. A head of me was an Indian warrior on a beautiful horse and I was going toward him. I wanted to but I didn’t want to. At that particular time I was in a roomful of smokers and they wanted me to open my eyes but my eyes burned then I didn’t go any deeper so I didn’t find out any more. When you said the path in the forest it took me right back.

JJ: Anyone else?

Audience: I had a lot of water too. When I first went back it was like a crossing; crossing water. Then it was like leaving Earth and watching water come up from very high and watching the water come up. Then I was on another planet or somewhere. The rock formations were like this and they were really kind of pointy. I could see the color of them. It was a brownish, purplish, tanish, and I saw lots and lots of them but they were like this. That’s it.

JJ: Anybody else?

Audience: I had several experiences but the one that’s still lingering with me is, Duway(?) was my name. It’s not spelled the way that we would spell it. I think I’m a bounty hunter and I went after an alien race with light skin, kind of bumpy. When the mouth would open to scream they had really jagged teeth. I went . . . that’s the only thing I could think of, that I was a bounty hunter of some kind. I don’t know what I looked like but my name was Duway.

JJ: Interesting. That must have been on a galaxy far away huh?

Audience: I know I’ve been on other planets and I’ve been a dolphin before. This one is still sticking with me because I don’t like to think I’m a bounty hunter.

JJ: Who’s next?

Audience: I’m not sure what lesson I was supposed to learn but in the second one I was around water. I was on a ship. I was married. I don’t remember if I had kids or not but it seemed like I was immigrating. This sounds boring compared to the other ones. I remember fishing boats and the sound of seagulls and the smell of the ocean.

Audience: I didn’t get very much but the impression I got was that I was also on a boat in a large body of water. The first word that came to me, going back, was that I was a lady. I didn’t get a name but I felt like I was a lady in these big fancy dresses dancing on a boat. That’s it.

JJ: Robin has something.

Robin: I’ve only tried this once before and it didn’t work so I’m not sure. These are just impressions that I got. When we went back the first time my name was Josephine and I was a Quaker woman. My husband was Allen. I had at least a son. A daughter kept fading in and out so I’m not sure. The word that came was ‘harsh’. I tried to figure out what that meant. I don’t know if it referred to the harshness of life or the teachings of that religion. I don’t really know anything about Quakers but maybe if their idea of God is a harsh God. I don’t know but that was the word that came. Then when I went back again my name was Antoine. I was immediately aware that I was Antoine and there was a bright light over here. I realized that I was on the beach and that was the sun rising. I was somehow connected with the ocean. I think I was working on a ship or something and the cook was my friend. That was it.

Audience: I wonder why so many so the ocean and ships.

JJ: That’s kind of unusual that a lot of people are seeing that.

Audience: I saw that too but I can’t agree with it in my mind.

JJ: To verify we’d have to do them individually and test them out. Some people go back into real past lives and others go back into an illusionary past life and others will go back and identify with someone they actually knew in a past life. They may think they’re Napoleon but really they were in Napoleon’s army. Maybe they admired Napoleon and wished they were him.

Audience: In mine I kept getting William Wallace or Sir William Wallace and Bobert DeBruce. I kept seeing buildings that look like buildings in England. They’re there now but they were old buildings. I was seeing knights fighting and kept wondering why I kept getting William Wallace and Robert DeBruce. I kept trying to see if I was these people or if I knew these people. It felt like legend or feeling of inspiration. I might’ve been in the army. There was a feeling of inspiration about those two people.

JJ: It’s quite possible you weren’t them but were close to them. That will often happen.

Audience: I got ‘chivalry’. The word chivalry was real important to me.

Audience: I got a flash of the crusades too but it was just a flash then it went on to the fishing thing.

Audience: Now that you’ve explained that I’m willing to share. It’s just really hard for me to fathom. The name that came when you said it the first time was “Caesar”. I got a lot of images of what he looked like but I don’t know if I was him or not. I couldn’t tell. He was in Rome and there was a lot of stuff going on.

JJ: So there’s a good chance you maybe were close to Caesar and that happened. That’s why so many people think they were somebody famous in a past life. Maybe they admired the famous person when they were there in a past life. Of course, somebody had to be those famous people but everybody can’t be.

Audience: The first time I went back my name was also Josephine but I was in an area with a man whose name was Benjamin. The word that came to me was love. We were standing outside a cottage of some sort then that left. Then when we went back farther I found myself in nun’s robes and I was in a chapel and I was praying.

JJ: Did it seem like you were really there?

Audience: Oh yes, I was there. I was talking with God. I had a very emotional experience with it because the question-I don’t know how these two work together but-the thought was I had such a close communion with God in that lifetime and that it was in a safe environment. In this lifetime I’m finding it very hard to live that knowing that I have in my heart in the outer world with people. It was so much easier to do it in a community of people that felt the same way I did. This time it’s different.

JJ: Is that when you were a nun?

Audience: Yes

JJ: Can you see why we have to forget?

Audience: This is the first time I’ve ever been able to go back. I’ve never been receptive to regression before. People can’t get me past the barrier. I don’t know why I couldn’t do it before. Maybe I didn’t think it was any of their business. I trust this time. Thank you.

JJ: Anybody else want to share anything? Cindy?

Cindy: I just wanted to say it’s kind of eerie because in my second time that I went into I realized that I was a male. I was fishing and could very clearly see the river. My name was Benjamin.

JJ: How clearly did you go back?

Cindy: That was very clear. It was a very peaceful lifetime which was unusual.

JJ: Anyone else? Don’t be shy.

Audience: I’ve done a lot of past life regressions. I’ve also gathered a lot of people into them. I’ve had more spontaneous past life regressions. This is pretty strange being guided by someone. When I came out from the mist it was purple. It was really strange. It was a very, very, very deep purple. In the first life I was a young man. In fact, in both those lifetimes I was a male. I was a young man, 20ish, in a village. It was in a market place. There were a lot of stone walls and stalls and that sort of thing. The name I got before I went into that lifetime was Jaalo. That’s what came. I never heard that name before. I don’t even know if that’s a name. That’s the name I got.

JJ: That’s a good sign you got something totally unheard of.

Audience: The word I got was ‘mishappen’. I said it to myself two or three times because I thought maybe I didn’t understand myself. I got it that I needed to stand on my principles. That’s what I had to learn in that lifetime.

JJ: Had you been back to this lifetime before?

Audience: No.

JJ: Have you been regressed before?

Audience: Lots of times. Most of them were spontaneous though.

JJ: You mean just out of the blue you’d go back like a flashback or something?

Audience: I’ll experience something or be somewhere and all of a sudden there it is.

JJ: You mean without any guiding at all? You just go back?

Audience: Right.

JJ: That’s a sign of an advanced soul.

Audience: It was pretty wild, the first few I had. Then the second life I went to my name was Joseph. It was 1502. You asked for a time or a date or something and that’s what came. I’m not sure if it was before Christ or after but 1502 was what I got. I was a male. I had two young daughters and I could just see them coming towards me. I was a boot maker. The daughters were real important. They were coming towards me. Then the very next thing when I tried to get a hold of why I was looking at this I found myself out on a hill communicating with God. It was like a lot of clouds and light rays. You know how the light rays come through the clouds. Then you were asking us to come back.

JJ: Interesting. Anybody else?

Audience: I only remembered one but I typically don’t remember very often. The scenes that came to mind were that my name was Samuel and it was in pre-revolutionary war times but very close. I had two scenes. One was outside of Boston in fields watching British regulars going by then another scene where I was walking in a cobblestone village. I didn’t get much more than that but there is a sense of something to do with Sam Adams. I don’t think I was Sam Adams but my name was Samuel. There was a sense of connection. What just occurred to me now, not then, but maybe this came to me now because I’m in a wounded state and there’s a sense that I may have been wounded at that time.

Audience: The first time you asked for a name I came up with Joshua. I was a boy. You asked for the mother’s name and it was Elizabeth. I immediately flipped into adulthood as a priest in a desert scene surrounded with children. Other than that that was all I could basically see and when you went to the second time I got absolutely nothing except the words ‘Hosanna’ and ‘Glory Be to God’. Everything was blank. There was nothing except those words.

Audience: There wasn’t any significant thing. Just that I still hear the ocean in my ears. There was some point of boat use with the sound of the ocean from a distance. When you mentioned a name one name came to mind, Pamela. It was darkness and I don’t remember anything but still I have this feeling in my ears and sound of the ocean.

JJ: A lot of people got water. That’s interesting. We didn’t mention water in the regression.

Audience: I didn’t regress and I didn’t see any past lives and I didn’t hear any names. But when you asked I kept going back trying to restart it so maybe I could run back and try to do it. When you said to think of a word, the word was ‘surrender’. But I didn’t get any pictures.

JJ: You might want to do with that is to repeat that word over and over and see where that takes you. That’s probably a key to something important in your past. It could be positive or it could be negative. Maybe you had to surrender against your will or maybe you surrendered to something according to your will to something in the past. If you pick up a word like that when you’re meditating, that word can sometimes trigger a past life memory. Anybody else have anything to share before we move on?

Audience: I had more of a sense of well-I went back and Rebecca was my name. I didn’t get a real clear thing but I had a feeling that I starved to death. There were two kids with me. I felt more than I saw. Is that normal?

JJ: Well, you go back several ways. Some people just go back by feeling and they feel what they felt back then but they don’t see anything or hear anything. Others will hear things but not really feel anything and others will see things but not really hear or feel things. Some will hear, see, feel, all the senses will go back.

We’re going to pick on one or two of you. Jeanine seems to be pretty sensitive. Why don’t you come over here and sit in this chair. Do you mind? We’ll take one individual back because with a group we get more generality so we’ll try to get a little more specific with an individual.

Delivered May 25, 2002 at the Gathering in Wimberly Texas.

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Elijah and Reincarnation

Elijah and Reincarnation

Question from LDS reader: Why do you think that Mal 4:5-6 refers to Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist?

This is a pretty cut and dried issue which was presented starkly in black and white by Jesus, but let me cover it again.

(1) Mal. 4:5-6 and Mal 3:1 are both referring to the same individual which was to be fulfilled by John the Baptist (Elijah in a past life).

In speaking of Mal 3:1 Jesus spoke of John the Baptist saying:

“But what went ye. out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. FOR THIS IS HE OF WHOM IT IS WRITTEN, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee…” Matt 11:9-10.

Thus there is no argument that John the Baptist is the one spoken of to fulfill this prophesy.

Now concerning a few verses later (Mal. 4:5-6) the apostles asked Jesus:

“His disciples asked him saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias (Elijah) must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come and restore all things. (This refers to a future coming) But I say unto you, that Elias is COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.” Matt 17:10-13.

Keep in mind that Elias is Greek for Elijah and all modern Bibles Translate it as Elijah to avoid confusion.

Here both Jesus and the Apostles identified the one who would precede the coming of the Messiah in Malachi as Elijah and “the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist” when talking about its fulfillment.

But note that there would be two appearances. One as Elijah reincarnated through John the Baptist 2000 years ago and another coming to restore all things. Since the messenger in Mal 3:1 is positively identified as Elijah come again then the person named as Elijah in Mal 4:5-6 has to be one and the same person.

Even the Mormon Church (and most Bible scholars) teach that the person in both these scriptures are the same person.

The hearts of the children seeking after their fathers is just one of the meanings of this verse. Let me quote it:

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord; and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” Malachi 4:5-6

Joseph gave a different twist on this than is usually taught in the church:

“This is the spirit of Elijah, that we redeem our dead, and connect ourselves with our fathers which are in heaven… We cannot be perfect without our fathers. WE MUST HAVE REVELATION FROM THEM.” Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith Page 338.

This linking up with the dead is to have the effect of giving us revelation. Indeed, many of those who have passed on will at times play the roll of a guardian angel and speak to us in still moments.

As the reader mentioned the angel Moroni quoted this verse differently to Joseph Smith:

“Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he shall plant in the hearts of the children THE PROMISES MADE TO THE FATHERS, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so THE WHOLE EARTH WOULD BE UTTERLY WASTED AT HIS COMING.” D&C 2:1-3.

And what are the promises made to the Fathers (the prophets)? There are many. In speaking of this verse Joseph Smith said that the most consistent promise made to the fathers was the building of Zion and the gathering of Israel (lights).

Note that an often overlooked part of the verse is that the heart of the Fathers will turn to the children? What does this mean?

We are the fathers of the children of the future and if we do not turn our hearts to them and prepare for them a world free from nuclear weapons, pollution, war and starvation, then indeed the earth will be smitten with a curse.

“Curse here comes from the Hebrew CHEREM which implies “utter destruction” or “extermination,” and this is a real possibility if we do not do our part in leaving our children to come an earth in which they can live in peace and abundance.

Elijah either as a reincarnated messenger or one working from the higher realms is predicted to help with our deliverance.

During the transfiguration we are told that both Moses and Elias (Elijah) appeared to Jesus, but the Inspired Version adds something rather startling for Mormon eyes. It says:

“And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses, OR IN OTHER WORDS, JOHN THE BAPTIST AND MOSES; and they were talking with Jesus.” Mark 9:3

You can’t get amore positive I.D. than that. “in other words” Elijah and John the Baptist were one and the same.

Comment: you say that “Never in history has God sent a resurrected being to accomplish what can be done by mortal men.” But there have been numerous instances where ancient prophets have appeared and assisted various servants.

Other worldly messengers have only appeared briefly, often to one person and have never done the work of mortals, rubbing shoulders with the general populace. If Joseph Smith or any other past being were to return and work with humanity it would be as one of us, not as some resurrected glorified being.

Question: Can translated beings reincarnate?

Many translated beings return to mortality.

“Wherefore, all things are theirs, whether life or death.” D&C 76:59

Question: “If murder is an “unforgivable sin,” then how could David, who committed murder, reincarnate as another prophet as some believe?

The scriptures say that murder is not forgiven “in this world.” Fortunately there are next worlds. In the New Testament “world” comes from AEON which means “an age.” If a person commits murder he will not be forgiven while he lives, but must give his life or save lives to pay the debt which brings forgiveness in a future life, world or age.

Some of the greatest leaders and teachers of humanity have had some of the largest debts to pay off.

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Dec 6, 2001

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Gender and Energy


Gender and Energy

A gay male member of the group wanted me to elaborate on his possible place in a molecule and how the energies play out.

Strong male energies need either good self-control or strong centering to open their receptive female energies.

Neither male or female or the gay state is a permanent situation for us.

As a general rule we fluctuate in a wavelength of time between male and female. Disciples in the service of the planet can choose their sex to a degree, but the majority follow energies that push and pull at them so they oscillate between male and female. Approximately 7 lives, or periods of activity, as one sex and seven lives, or periods of activity, as the other. At the top of the wavelength you are a strong male (in energy) and at the bottom you are a good looking magnetic female.

The problem comes at the switch-over. If you were in a female body in your last life and now find yourself in a male body it would still seem natural to be attracted to males. It takes many entities a lifetime or two to fully accept their switch-over when it comes.

If you find yourself in a cross-over life then your natural attraction to the opposite sex may not have fully set in. But as time goes on the energy of the new sex you are in will increase and usually becomes adjusted by your second life in that state.

One of the problems with the switch over is that few members of the opposite sex have a similar opposite polarity to your own. On the other hand, members of your same sex who have recently crossed over seem to have a similar opposite polarity.

In your own relationship, for instance, one of you will be male and the other female in energy in relation to each other, but because you are in male physical bodies you will both be male in energy to the whole of humanity and in this respect creates a point of friction or resistance of the natural flow.

What causes this is the reluctance of most of us to accept the changes that our souls have placed us in. This natural resistance all of us have is the cause of death. Not just gays, but all of us resists the will of the soul so we are forced to die and forget. Then we are reborn with no memory so we will face willingly that which we resisted in the past life. When we consciously accept the energies that are sent our way and use them without being forced then death becomes unnecessary.

It is silly for any of us to condemn gays for all of us go through that experience at one time or another at crossover. It is important, however to understand the correct use of energy so the ultimate freedom can be obtained.

When the person enters his cross-over life his attraction to the opposite sex may be weak because a period of time is required to adjust to the energy of the different sex he finds himself in. Nevertheless, because you are in a male body you will be polarized in the male energy, however weak, and will have an opposite energy to a female who has also recently crossed over.

Now keep in mind that a weak attraction to the opposite sex is not related to passion or vital energy, which can be high or low in any cycle.

Many gay men maintain that they cannot have a physical attraction to a female, but this is not so. With some exceptions this applies to most females. One who is in a crossover life will find the energy of about 90% of females out of sync, but there will be about 10-15% that the gay male could have a physical relationship with, if he opened up himself to it.

Many good looking highly magnetic females are attracted to gay men because of their looks, but this type of female will have an awkward energy for the gay man to deal with.

The female that the gay man could have a physical relationship with would be the female that has a tendency toward the gay lifestyle herself. To make it work both would have to resist the natural impulses of their past lives and tune into their current energies sent to them from their souls. This is quite difficult for both of them.

In the end the answer to the correct use of energy is soul contact. Only by following your soul can you balance your energies correctly.

The transgender is in an even more difficult situation than the gay. Not all, but some of them are truly female energies in a male body and visa versa. In this case the person cannot be attracted to their opposite sex no matter how hard they try.

This happens because of several reasons. First nature itself is not perfect and sometimes mistakes happen. Second is the karma of the individual undergoing the experience.

As far as gays in a molecule? Remember the human atom is not one individual, but a male-female united. The gay can participate in the molecule in two ways:

(1) He or she can find a partner of the opposite sex with whom they are comfortable, and this person can be a working partner. The focus of the molecule is not on sexual relations, or romance, and any energies in that direction are not a part of its function. The only concern is that all activities be in harmony with the person’s own soul. The important thing is that the partners can work together as a unit. Think of two people working together in a non-romantic situation at a regular place of employment.

(2) The third main particle in the atom is the neutron. This is a neutral particle with no opposite polarity. If a gay operates in this energy he (or she) participates as a stabilizing energy and could be a member of the molecule, but as an associate with no partner. There will be a male female unit with whom he or she will work.


A reader wants more light on Decision-Consciousness-Attention and relates a general definition of it.

However, the key is not the definition of these words. The key is the answer to WHO OR WHAT AM I?

The answer is not a definition of a word, but a principle, which is never the definition of a word. Your essence as it exists in any state of Becoming is that power within you which makes decisions, not decision itself. Decision is the key word, but not the answer. This power which is your essence does not have a name in the English language. It has not been recognized so it has not been named.

In the book there is a mention of another key word which will shed some light on this and the word was revealed in the beginning of the book on the Molecular Relationship. That word is Purpose. Purpose as it is used there is not purpose as we define it in our normal conversation which is related to goal setting. Purpose as we shall use it is the Initiator of all things. It is not energy, but is the initiator of energy. It is not decision, but the initiator of Decision and gives meaning to all things. Decision cannot exist without Purpose. Purpose sustains that power within you to Become and Decide. Because you are a reflection of Purpose you are that power to decide, but not decision itself. Decision is the key word because it is the highest hint in the direction of our essence that we have an accepted word for.

Decision, Consciousness and Attention are to be seen as a Trinity, not as words to be defined. If they are seen as an interdependent Trinity created by Purpose then this will indeed be a key of knowledge to you. These words may seem simple, but even the highest masters and beyond are continually expanding their ring-pass-not on this concept.

We may think we understand Decision-Consciousness-Attention. Before 1492 the people thought they understood the concept of earth-circle-ship, but Columbus discovered a key from this Trinity that led us to discover a new world.

Never be fooled by simplicity.

We will be talking more about Purpose/Decision as time goes on and as future Immortal Books are released. In the meantime I will try and answer specific questions.

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Who or What am I?


Who or What am I?

I see the group is guessing who I may have been in past lives. I suppose I had better comment on this or some will feel I am avoiding the question.

Now suppose I told you I was some great teacher or historical figure from the past and you accepted this in your mind? Whenever I give you a teaching from that point on, there is the danger that that you would not be looking at what I am teaching, but what some authority from the past is teaching and there are some who would accept me without first checking with their own minds and souls.

On the other hand, suppose I told you that I have been nobody special in any past life? Then we have a danger in the opposite direction. Some would not even give me enough credibility to bother to check with their souls to find the truth of my teachings.

This is one of the reasons that we lose our memory of past lives. It allows all of us, great and small, to have a fresh start in each new birth. If you and Jesus were born as twin brothers or sisters, your words and actions would have as much authority as His until He proved himself anew.

This is as it should be; otherwise we would be tempted to rest upon our past accomplishments and not attempt to learn new things and improve upon the old.

The Master taught: “Except you be born again, you will not see the Kingdom of God.”

We can see the wisdom of being born again when we examine many people in the latter half or near the end of their lives. They have learned a trade and have few financial worries so they desire to retire and spend the rest of their lives fishing, relaxing, traveling the country or the world and if they lived forever in this state of mind they would be of no use to God or man for eternity. By the grace of God they die and are reborn in a challenging situation where they must struggle to survive and achieve.

Only when a person can become born again without being born again can he become ready for true eternal life. In this wording is a major hint for contemplation.

Let us use the effect of past lives in relation to a group member, like John K. for instance. He often writes inspiring postings, parables and stories and we all appreciate him for it.

Now let us suppose that we all found out that he was the Buddha born again. Why, we would all stop in our tracks and reread everything he has written and see meaning there that we never saw before.. Then when he posts something we would read it with bated breath to see the latest revelations of the great one instead of the simple words of a friend we all know as John.

The Tibetans have this problem with the Dalai Lama.

They look for the same leader to be reborn in each new generation and when they find him, as they suppose, they immediately begin to place everything he says above the words of everyone else in the realm. Meanwhile if a great Master were to arise in their midst, his words would be largely ignored in favor of the lesser words of their leader.

It is always difficult for a spiritual teacher to get the attention of the masses without some strong astral attention grabber. Look at Christ, for instance, the greatest of us all. Even though He had power to attract attention through miracles He had great difficulty getting people to pay attention to His words. After His crucifixion and the miracles were gone His disciples met together and their full number was one hundred and twenty (See Acts 1:15) I guess with that in mind we are lucky to have a couple hundred in this group who are seeking the words that stir the soul.

Now let us go the other direction and say that we found out that John was Judas. Now things would be different. We would look with suspicion on every word he posted. We would wonder about his sincerity and we would make sure he never got close to our kids.

Thus it is a blessing that we do not generally remember our past or know the past lives of others, for by starting with a clean slate in our relationships all people have a fair chance to succeed. If our past life was a great success, our ego may have to be taken down a few notches, but if our past life was a failure we are able to drop those negative memories and get on with our progression.

As it is John is seen by us for what he is now in the present time without the disadvantage of seeing him through the eyes of the past.

Dave was very close to reading me correctly when he said:

“I think it would be wonderful to learn that our teacher used to be one of the great people. On the other hand, it would probably benefit most people to not know. People have a tendency to ‘blindly’ follow prophets, and if anyone had any reason to believe he was one of these people, they would stop questioning him and never verify anything he said against their soul. You’re soul will help you learn what you need to know when the time is right.”

You are on the right track here. But I do not want the group to get me wrong in the other direction and think there is no value to learning our past lives. It can be of great value, but the value of learning our own past lives is generally much more than learning someone else’s. Knowing our past can often help us understand the direction we need to take in this life and how karma is to be dealt with.

Thus I will not reveal my past. If there is some necessity for someone to know it the knowledge can be acquired through the Oneness Principle through the soul, but that would be for your personal benefit and not for any publication.

I’d like to make one other observation about past lives. We all know that there is strong glamour and illusion connected with them. About half of the people who believe in it tend to think they were some great historical figure, even though their talents in this life do not seem to vaguely resemble a Lincoln, Edison or Jesus. If you mention to such people that they might have just been some person forgotten to history their jaw will often drop in disappointment, but just suppose this with me for a moment.

Let us suppose that all of us in this group died this day and were reborn a hundred years from now and in that future age we received a revelation of who we were back in this time. Would our jaws drop?

Let’s pick on John again. He is a musician, and I assume a good one, but if he died today there probably would be little record 100 years hence of any contribution he made to mankind. But that does not mean his life was not important. It is important to all of us for he has touched many souls here as well I am sure he has touched many souls off the list.

The same may be said of me. If I were to die today there would be little or no historical record of me in a hundred years, yet that does not diminish what I teach or what I have learned in preparation for the future. If I were to die today I would carry my essence with me into the future and finish what I have Decided to Become and the mission I have accepted.

We cannot all be a Washington, a Peter or a Buddha, but we can all be a Glenys, a John K, a Rob, a Rick, an Anni, a Xavier…

Well maybe not Xavier – he’s one of a kind (LOL)

My point is that most of us, possibly all of us were not historical figures and we must all be prepared for the possibility that we were no more famous in our last life than we are in this one, but that’s not so bad, is it?

I am enjoying being a regular guy in this life. That could change if I produce a best selling book, and in some ways I’m not looking forward to any fame but I have an inner driving from the Spirit that pushes me ahead and all of us must face whatever comes as we follow higher purpose.

Laura wants to know the fate of the original twelve apostles. Are they going to show up in this group or as a molecule somewhere on the earth or are they Masters living apart from humanity?

Some of them have become Masters and some of them are still struggling to attain the higher initiations. All of the twelve that were in the Molecule on the day of Pentecost and I believe that most are in physical bodies on the earth today. Some who have incarnated have gotten temporarily caught up in some illusion and are not performing the work they intended to accomplish. This is partially due to the intense efforts of the Dark Brotherhood to discourage them for the desire of the Christ is to gather them around Him when He walks among us again.

Because of free will there are no guarantees on this type of thing.

And how about Judas? I do not know about his fate for sure, but we do know that he had remorse after he saw what happened to his Lord and this tells us that he had not yet completely chosen the dark path. It is entirely possible that he has paid off his debt and is a disciple today.

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Reincarnation and Mormonism, Part 5

This entry is part 5 of 6 in the series Reincarnation & Mormonism



When one considers the doctrine of reincarnation his mind would naturally wonder what the previous lifetimes were of some of the early brethren in the church.

It’s quite possible that their incarnations on the earth began even before the days of Adam for Hyrum Smith said: “There were prophets BEFORE Adam, and Joseph has the spirit and power of all the prophets.” Millenial Star Vol. 23:Pg 406.

Orson Hyde also said: “The world was peopled before the days of Adam as much as it was before the days of Noah.” J.D. 2:79

It is true that the ancient continents of Atlantis and Lemuria did exist and some of the more recent prophets also struggled as teachers of mankind back at that ancient time.

We see from the scriptures evidence of the past lives of some of the early brethren. For instance, there is a strong indication that Oliver Cowdrey was Aaron. Oliver was told: “You have another gift, which is the gift of Aaron; behold it hath told you many things; Behold, there is no other power, save the power of God, that can cause this gift of Aaron to be with you. Therefore, doubt not, for it is the gift of God, and you shall hold it in your hands.” D&C 8:6-8

This scripture is even more striking when one considers that a very important word here has been changed. The first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants read “rod of Aaron” instead of “gift of Aaron”. The word “gift” does not make sense because Oliver was told he would hold it in his hands. It is not a coincidence, then, that Oliver was given a Rod just as Aaron was, and his Rod generated power just as Aaron’s did.

It is also ironic that Oliver was the first with Joseph to receive the Aaronic Priesthood from John the Baptist and he was the first one in this dispensation to be ordained in an earthly ordinance to this priesthood by another mortal, namely Joseph Smith. Oliver was told that he was “called and ordained even as Aaron.” D&C 27:8

Edward Partrigde was told that “he is like unto Nathanael of old, in whom there is no guile.” D&C 41:11 Could this be the Lord’s way of hinting at his identity in a previous lifetime?

Many of the brethren were conspicuously called strange ancient names in various revelations. No logical explanation of this has ever been given by the church. Again, was the Lord hinting at past identities?

Hyrum was Hyrum, King of Tyre from the Old Testament. Brigham Young was King Solomon. Just as King Solomon built the temple without the sound of a hammer (I Kings 6:7) so did Brigham construct the tabernacle in Salt Lake without hammer or nails. Furthermore, Solomon has sculptured lions on both sides of his throne and ornamenting his house just as Brigham had two of them guarding the entrance to his home he named “The Lionhouse”. Brigham was often referred to as “the Lion of the Lord”. You will also notice that many of Brigham’s sermons sound amazingly like the books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes written by Solomon.

The Lord identified Joseph Smith in a dual manner. He said: “Thou art Joseph, and wast chosen to do the work of the Lord.” D&C 3:9 Which Joseph was the Lord referring to? Was this his method of telling him that he was Joseph who was sold into Egypt? Was this why Joseph of old, when prophesying of the mission of Joseph Smith, wrote of him: “He shall be like unto me.” II Nephi 3:15 Was he really writing of his own future mission?

Why did the Lord say that Joseph was “called and chosen to WRITE the Book of Mormon”? D&C 24:1 We know that, as Joseph, he did not write the book, but translated it. If the word of God is literally true then Joseph had to have been Mormon, for Mormon wrote the abridged book. Was this why, when describing his unusual traits as a young boy, his mother said: “During our evening conversations, Joseph would occasionally give us the most amusing recitals that could be imagined. He could describe the ancient inhabitants of this continent, their dress, mode of traveling, and animals upon which they rode; their cities; their buildings with every particular; their mode of warfare; and also their religious worship. This he would do with as much ease, seemingly, AS IF HE HAD SPENT HIS WHOLE LIFE WITH THEM.” Lucy Smith Biographical Sketches; Pg 85.

It is interesting that Mother Smith was speaking of Joseph as a young boy before he had any revelations. It sounds as if he was merely recalling his past life experiences just as numerous young people do today in increasing degrees.

Of course, Joseph and the other brethren had many other lives that are too numerous to mention here, but more interesting than their past lives are their possible future ones.

Many of the brethren were quite surprised that Joseph and Hyrum were killed because of certain things the Prophet told them. For instance, he said: “I prophesy and bear record this morning that all the combined powers of earth and hell shall not and cannot overthrow or overcome this boy, FOR I HAVE A PROMISE FROM THE ETERNAL GOD.” DHC 5:554

Because God had promised Joseph he would overcome all of his enemies he was very confident in expressing it. A reference is found in the scriptures: “I feel like Paul, to glory in tribulation; for to this day has the God of my fathers delivered me out of them all, AND WILL DELIVER ME FROM HENCEFORTH; for behold, and lo, I SHALL TRIUMPH OVER ALL MY ENEMIES, FOR THE LORD GOD HATH SPOKEN IT.” D&C 127:2

Joseph indicated that this overcoming all of our enemies is essential to obtain salvation: “Salvation is nothing more or less than to triumph over all our enemies and put them under our feet IN THIS WORLD, and a knowledge to triumph over all evil spirits in the world to come, THEN we are saved.” DHC 5:387

According to this then, Joseph was not saved for he did not triumph over his enemies “in this world”, but they overcame him and took his life.

Brigham Young was one of those who expected greater things of Joseph: “Yet he (Joseph) will lay a plan to speculate as large as ancient Joseph did; he will have power to buy up all the rest of the world.” DHC 6:16

Also the Lord said: “But a small moment and thy voice shall be more terrible in the midst of thine enemies than the fierce lion.” D&C 122:4

Joseph Smith was also promised that he would redeem Zion. (See D&C 105:26-27,37) He said he would be a witness to the whole world and then the end would come. DHC 6:363

The Book of Mormon tells us that he is the one like Moses mentioned in D&C 103:15-16. (See II Nephi 3:6-17) He said his father in a blessing “anointed my head, and sealed upon me the blessings of Moses, to lead Israel in the latter days, even as Moses lead them in the days of old.” DHC 2:380

Joseph’s patriarchal blessing even makes this promise: “Thou shalt hold the keys of this ministry, even the presidency of this church both in time and eternity…Thou shalt stand on Mount Zion when the tribes of Jacob come shouting from the North, and with thy brethren, the Sons of Ephriam, crown them in the name of Jesus Christ.” OUR LINEAGE (Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1933)

We can clearly see then, without quoting further, why the brethren did not expect Joseph to be overcome and killed by his enemies. It was even the Lord’s intention that Joseph and Hyrum escape martrydom for he said: “I…will be with thee even unto the end of the world, and through eternity…Behold, I have seen all your sacrifices, and will forgive all your sins; I have seen your sacrifices in obedience to that which I have told you. Go, therefore, and I WILL MAKE A WAY FOR YOUR ESCAPE, as I accepted the offering of Abraham of his son Isaac.” D&C 132:49-50

Just as the Lord prepared the way for the saving of the physical life of Isaac so would the Lord have saved the life of Joseph, and, unknown to most, God fulfilled his part of this promise for the Lord did reveal to him a way to escape.

When all the forces of evil came crushing down on Joseph and Hyrum and it seemed as if there was no way to escape with their lives, the Lord did give Joseph a revelation and told him to cross the Missouri and go west. However, his friends called him a coward for doing so and upon hearing this from a letter sent by his wife he replied “If my life is worth nothing to my friends it is worth nothing to me.”

This decision was his alone for neither God nor the heavens were allowed to interfere. They could only look on realizing the unalterable fate of his perilous decision. Although either choice required great courage, his love for the saints compelled him to return to face martrydom. The setback of his premature death was anticipated, however, and all the promises concerning him will yet be fulfilled.

Joseph was once asking the Lord concerning the time of the second coming of Christ and received the answer: “Joseph, my son, IF THOU LIVEST UNTIL THOU ART EIGHTY-FIVE YEARS OLD, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore, let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter.” D&C 130:15

This revelation led Joseph to later say: “I prophesy in the name of the Lord God, and let it be written, the Son of Man WILL NOT COME in the clouds of heaven TILL I AM EIGHTY-FIVE YEARS OLD.” DHC 5:336

If he would have lived to age eight-five as hoped he would have prepared the way so the Christ could have reappeared and the promise concerning the building of the temple in Jackson County in his generation (D&C 84:4) would have been fulfilled. As it is the promise has been delayed because the saints wanted their prophet to prove he was a hero more than they wanted the words of eternal life.

All the promises made to Joseph shall be fulfilled for he will overcome all his enemies and will yet live in the flesh to the age of eighty-five and see the face of the Son of Man. He will not do it in an immortal resurrected body, but as a mortal walking among us again. Eliza R. Snow, the true author of PRAISE TO THE MAN knew what she was writing when she said: “Millions shall know Brother Joseph again.”

Parley P. Pratt was out of state when he heard of the Prophet’s death. He couldn’t understand why his life was taken before the Lord’s promises concerning Joseph were fulfilled. Wondering how he was going to explain Joseph’s death to the people when he returned to Nauvoo, he prayed: “O Lord! In the name of Jesus Christ I pray thee, show me what these things mean, and what I shall say unto thy people? On a sudden the Spirit of God came upon me, and filled my heart with joy and gladness indescribable; and which the spirit of revelation glowed in my bosom with as visible a warmth and gladness as if it were a fire. The Spirit said unto me:   ‘Lift up your head and rejoice; for behold! It is well with my servants Joseph and Hyrum. My servant Joseph still holds the keys of my kingdom in this dispensation, AND HE SHALL STAND IN DUE TIME ON EARTH IN THE FLESH, AND FULFILL THAT TO WHICH HE IS APPOINTED.” Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt; Page 333.

In answer to this revelation given to Elder Pratt the average Latter-Day Saint, without thinking twice, would merely say it has reference to Joseph Smith coming again in an immortal resurrected body, but an important point he forgets is that an immortal person never does the work of a mortal. After all, why did not Moroni translate the plates? It would have been more convincing perhaps, but it is the decree of God that man must work out his own salvation and resurrected beings do not interfere with that.

The Lord promised Parley P. Pratt that Joseph would again would stand again on the earth and fulfill that to which he was appointed. What was he appointed to do that he did not accomplish? We shall name nine things and point out that they do not fit the works of a resurrected being.

FIRST:   He was to achieve salvation by overcoming all of his enemies ON THE EARTH. It would be an unfair advantage with no victory, and contrary to the laws of heaven, for a resurrected being of great power to fight against mere mortals. If he is to overcome his enemies he must return as a mortal and face them on even ground.

SECOND: The Lord indicated that Joseph would live until he was eighty-five old. This he could only do as a mortal.

THIRD:   Brigham Young said Joseph Smith would be able to buy up the world as ancient Joseph did. Can you imagine the Lord sending a resurrected being to do this?

FOURTH: Joseph was promised that he would lead his people as Moses. Moses was a mortal so Joseph could not be like Moses if he was an immortal – he would be like Jehovah who was guiding Moses.

FIFTH: Joseph was promised he would be the one to redeem Zion. (See D&C 105:26-27,37) The one who will do this is referred to as the “marred” servant. (See Isa 52:24 and III Nephi 20:44) Does it make sense that Joseph Smith would appear to lead the Saints to Zion in a resurrected immortal body that is also marred? The prophecy of the marred servant would have to concern a mortal man.

SIXTH: Joseph was also promised that he would restore all things. We know that all things have not yet been restored. An example is the golden plates which were sealed. The Lord told Joseph: “I am the Lord thy God, and gave unto thee, my servant Joseph, an appointment, and RESTORE ALL THINGS. Ask what ye will and it shall be given you according to my word…For I have conferred upon you the keys and power of the priesthood, wherein I restore all things, and make KNOWN UNTO YOU ALL THINGS in due time.” D&C 132:40 & 45

SEVENTH: One of the things Joseph was to restore was the fulness of the record of John: “And John saw and bore record of the fulness of my glory, and the fulness of John’s record is hereafter to be revealed…And it shall come to pass, that if you are faithful YOU SHALL RECEIVE the fulness of the record of John.” D&C 93:6&18

Joseph Smith was faithful wasn’t he? Then where is the fulness of the record of John? Obviously this can only be fulfilled in a future life.

EIGHTH: Joseph is to reveal all mysteries “until”the Lord comes: “And I have given unto him the keys of the mystery of those things which were from the foundation of the world, AND THE THINGS WHICH SHALL COME FROM THIS TIME UNTIL THE TIME OF MY COMING, if he abide in me.” D&C 35:18 Also see DHC 2:32

NINETH: Joseph Smith is to be the “One Mighty and Strong” and “Set in order the house of God”.

Let us expand this final point and quote the reference concerning this Coming One, for it is the most controversial writing in all the Standard Works, misunderstood by orthodox and fundamentalist Mormon alike.

“And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth to SET IN ORDER THE HOUSE OF GOD, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God; While that man who was called of God, and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by a vivid shaft of lightening…These things I say not of myself; THEREFORE, AS THE LORD SPEAKETH, HE WILL ALSO FULFILL.” D&C 85:7-8,10

And how does the church explain this powerful scripture? They say that Edward Partridge, the first bishop of the church, was bungling things up, and the Lord was thinking of sending One Mighty and Strong to straighten him out, but Partridge repented and thus the prophesied person did not need to come. Thus the authorities have tried to negate the word of God for this is one prophesy with a promise of fulfillment. It is written: “He (God) will also fulfill…” D&C 85:10

The present day authorities like to think that this scripture cannot pretain to them. They do not like the idea that the church may be out of order and will require a new Moses to be sent to straighten things out.

As upsetting as it may be to the present day heirarchy we have definite proof that this warning was not to Edward Partridge as is claimed. Oliver Cowdery stated: “Brother Joseph says that the item in his letter (section 85) that says that the man that is called etc. and puts forth his hand to steady the arc of God, DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANYONE HAD AT THE TIME, but was given for a caution to those in HIGH STANDING TO BE WARE, lest they should fall by the shaft of death.” THE REVELATIONS OF JOSEPH SMITH by Lyndon W. Cook; Page 179; Published By Deseret Book

Furthermore, the prophecy pertains to the redemption of Zion which has not yet occurred and could not have been fulfilled in Joseph’s day. In addition we have a second witness to the Coming One in Isaiah: “Behold, the Lord hath a MIGHTY AND STRONG ONE, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand. The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephriam, shall be trodden under foot…The priest and the PROPHET HAVE ERRED through strong drink (doctrine), they are swallowed up of wine, (knowledge); they are out of the way; they err in vision, they stumble in judgement.” Isa 28:2-3, 7

Thus the coming of the One Mighty and Strong is established by two scriptural witnesses, which is discreetfully swept under the rug by those who do not want to be set in order.

Since the One Mighty and Strong will set the house of God in order, then that must mean that it will be out of order. In fact the church was not in order even in the days of Joseph. The Prophet said he planned “to organize the Church in its PROPER ORDER as soon as the (Nauvoo) temple is completed.” DHC 4:604

Unfortunately, he was killed before the temple was completed so he never had a change to set the church in order as he had hoped, and no one since that time has claimed to have had any revelation concerning the setting in order.

Joseph explained that the setting in order would be after the similitude of the parable of the wheat and the tares and that “the corruptions of the church are represented by the tares, which are sown by the enemy.” He said that the tares will be removed when the wheat gets sufficiently strong.

Who is this One Mighty and Strong? Some think it will be Joseph Smith because he said the revelation ‘often times…maketh my bones to quake…” D&C 85:6. But a more conclusive proof is found in another revelation which tells us he will spend numerous lifetimes setting the church and kingdom in order. “and this shall be your business and mission ALL YOUR LIVES, to preside in council, AND SET IN ORDER ALL THE AFFAIRS OF THIS CHURCH AND KINGDOM.” D&C 90:16

Some believe that Joseph will come as a resurrected and glorified personage because we are told the One Mighty and Strong will be “clothed with light for a covering”. D&C 85:7 But they do not understand that all men have some sort of light for a covering for we are all surrounded with a colorful aura which can be seen with sensitive eyes. Also, saints often noticed a light that surrounded Joseph when he was speaking by inspiration. There were those who said his face sometimes glowed as if there were a searchlight in his head. Thus Joseph could be a mortal with light for a covering and will also have the “scepter of power” which will be a rod like unto that of Moses.

Joseph Smith was aware that this was not his last life on the earth for in speaking to the Nauvoo Legion he said: “You have faithfully performed your duty, in preserving the lives of the people as well as mine. You shall be called the first Elders of this church….And your mission will be to the nations of the earth to preach the gospel, and you will gather many people to the fastness of the Rocky Mountains, and many of those who will come in under your ministery because of their learning will seek for position and they will gain eminence over you, and you will walk in low places unnoticed. Yet you will know all that transpires in your midst. Those who are your friends are my friends AND I PROMISE YOU WHEN I COME AGAIN I WILL LEAD YOU FORTH, so that where I am you shall be with me.” LIFE STORY OF WANDLES MACE, By Himself; Pages 131-132

Joseph will keep his promise and come again, for today there are many of the most enlightened saints who are walking “in low places unnoticed” who will be raised up to a point where they can be a light unto the world.

Also that “in life they were not divided, and in death they were not separated!” D&C 135:3 It is most probable they will be the two witnesses as prophesied by John in chapter 11 of Revelations for Joseph said he would be a witness to the world and then the end would come. In addition they will be the One like Moses and the Spokesman as prophesied in II Nephi chapter three. Indeed, we have glorious events to look forward to in the near future!

There is not time in this short article for more elaboration. That will be given later. The most important thing is to consider the words we have written. Remember that the Lord answers no one who takes “no thought save it was to ask me.” D&C 9:7.   So study this out first. Search the scriptures and your heart and then ask God with a sincere heart about the truth of these things and the Spirit will tell you that the principle of reincarnation is a true, holy, and just principle.

We bear witness to the principle of rebirth. We have tested the Spirit and know it is true and we know that he will reveal this and other great mysteries to all true seekers of light.

Let us remember the words of Joseph: “We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true Mormons.” DHC 5:517

McCall Gathering, 2007, Part 27

This entry is part 27 of 54 in the series McCall Gathering 2007

Humor and Unselfishness

JJ: What are some of the other distinctions between the light and the dark?

Audience: The dark brothers are totally selfish and self-serving and the Brotherhood of Light is the exact opposite.

JJ: Light is selfless and dark selfish. Now, on the other hand, does the person who is selfish ever admit he is selfish? No it is like a maze trying to figure out who is who because they both say a lot of the same things. Not only will the dark brother talk about how selfless and virtuous and how much he has given to charity and how of this and that, that he has done but his acolytes will also praise him and say, oh Mr. Smith, he has done so much for the service of humanity. Maybe the guy is just totally selfish and what he has done with his selfishness is he has not given of himself but he has manipulated events and used other people’s money to buy the appearance of virtue. He will take other people’s money and build something with it and put his name on it and everyone will think that this guy gave us this bridge and he is a wonderful person.

There are politicians in Washington with dozens and dozens of buildings, monuments and bridges that are named after them and all they did was take other people’s money and buy it for us and it did not cost them one penny out their own pocket. As they take other people’s money to build the building to put their name on it they are increasing our taxes. If you want to look for the selfish politicians then I would look for the ones with the most buildings with their names on them.

The unselfish politicians will not care if a building has their name on it for what they care about is to get something done that will benefit this country and the people. You will find that this politician does not give a rat’s behind about whether or not a building has his name on it or not. I have found that the best politicians rarely have a building named after them until after they die and then somebody else does it for him.

Selfishness, the difficult part of all of these is the dark brother present himself as light like it says in the Bible – Satan himself presents himself as an angel of light. The selfish brother presents himself as altruistic and virtuous because he has managed to give his constituents all this stuff. I am a wonderful person because I give you this stuff, but he did not give it to us, he gave it to us with other people’s money.

When somebody says he will give you free stuff, I say that when they reach in their own pocket and pay for it with their own money then I think that is unselfish. If he did it with his own money, his own power and his own work and did it to benefit other people not using other people’s money then that is what I call unselfishness. So when a politician gets in an area of great influence and is able to buy stuff and put his name on buildings, bridges, libraries and such and get a lot of credit for being virtuous on other people’s hard work, I do not call this unselfish. I call it selfish because he is selfishly using other people’s money to build up his own ego.

Okay what other differences do we have?

Audience: I think the dark side is humorless and the light is joyful with humor.

JJ: Light side is joyful and has humor and dark is opposite. DK Himself points this out that the brotherhood of light has a good sense of humor and when you first begin to read his book you wonder if He has any sense of humor himself but once you get into it and study Him then you see some subtle little things he says which kind of make you chuckle every once in a while.

Take a look at Hitler, for instance. Whenever you see him talking he was so dead serious when he got up to speak with his body language and his voice, I can’t understand what he is saying and I would like to hear a clip where it is translated to see what he is actually saying. Every speech I have seen of Hitler, he sounds like he is mad at his dog or something. He sounds completely humorless and one of the things the allies did in World War II was they made fun of Hitler. They made jokes about him and made these films where they contorted Hitler and made him look like he was doing all this funny weird stuff and they would show the films in the theaters just to make fun of him and the whole audience would laugh and a lot people thought Hitler actually did this stuff. Hitler was manipulated in films to all kinds of crazy stuff like falling off of chairs and stuff like that. I am sure if Hitler ever knew about it that it probably really drove him crazy. It would be interesting for somebody to compile those old films, I have read about them but I have never actually seen them.

What is interesting between light and dark is that light has more than one meaning. In light we think of a light like this one right here but there is also light as in opposite of heavy. The dark brothers are heavy with their feelings and their thoughts are just sooo serious. The Brotherhood of Light is light in their thoughts and they are more carefree. Annie was something about how they go slow quickly. How was that worded Annie?

Annie: They hurry slowly.

JJ: They hurry slowly. In other words, the impression I got was that they have a deadline but they do not pursue the deadline with a state of hurriedness; they do it in a state of relaxation. Now often times when people have deadline it just drives them crazy and they get really nervous and uptight about it but the Brotherhood of light says, just relax, everything will be fine, concentrate and if you give yourself the right amount of time then you can pace yourself and be relaxed, move forward step by step and you can have your mission accomplished. Now the dark brothers are entirely different, it has to be done at a certain time or you die.

Audience: Laughter!

JJ: The mob is an extension of the dark brothers and you see these movies about them and what happens if the guy in the mob does not perform on time?

Audience: He gets whacked!

JJ: Yes, he gets hit over the head with a baseball bat or choked or shot or stabbed or tortured or fire placed under him or something crazy happens to the poor guy who does not perform or who does not get the good guy or whatever. So it is interesting how light applies in more ways than just brightness.

After Curtis and I were excommunicated we spent a number of times trying to enlighten the Mormons which is the hardest thing I have ever attempted in my life. We would go around and visit certain ones and the ones that bothered us the most we called them the squeaky clean ones. In other words, it looked like they had just got out of the shower and completely groomed no matter what time of day it was. The squeaky clean ones were always very serious and when we met with them and we presented what we thought were some of the problems in the church, they would talk to us like this, very slowly and in a deep voice, “Oh brother you know you are on dangerous ground here and you know that Satan has got a hold of you and that you can suffer very dark consequences if you continue upon this path.” They talk slowly deliberately and they are always squeaky clean. These types of guys really talk this way and they are washed, clean, groomed and I swear they have shaved within the past hour, all of them!

Audience: Laughing!

JJ: I always seem to have some stubble going on and I cannot get shaved like these squeaky clean ones. I found that interesting that I always found them to be in the squeaky clean category, now look at Dan over here, he would never fit in the squeaky clean category!

Audience: Laughter!

JJ: You look at him and he is mellow. He has an old T-shirt on and he is never really clean shaven entirely, and these are the type of guys that I find that I really trust a lot more than the ones who have that air of authority about them like, “I am in charge and I have authority here.” This type of guy is always rubbing me the wrong way.

Audience: I had a missionary come over to my house once and I could not get rid of him and I said you can excommunicate me please, please and then finally I said you ought to get laid and that did it he left after that.

JJ: If you want to get rid of them even faster give them my little booklet called Mormonism and Reincarnation. They will hold that in their hand like it is going to start on fire and they will get out of there really fast. Just say that you want to talk about it, for it has some scriptures proving that Joseph Smith believed in reincarnation.

It works with the Jehovah witnesses too. I use the Bible and Reincarnation with them. They come in and I say yes I have a little thing here that proves reincarnation in the Bible and I will take your literature and you take mine and they have the same reaction. It is like it is hot to their touch. It is funny during that time period that Curtis and I tried to enlighten the Mormons, we would give them some of our material and then come back and ask them if they read it. They would always give us the same answer and can you guess what that answer is?

Audience: No

JJ: What did they do with it, Curtis?

Curtis: Burned it.

JJ: Burned it. Nine times out of ten they would say that they burned it. And we would ask them, why did you burn it? They would say well somebody else could have got it out of the garbage and I did not want anybody to ever see that so we burned it. Even some of my family members told me that they burned some of my stuff. No they just did not throw it away they had to actually create a fire burn it to make sure no one would ever read it. It is amazing how many people told us that and it about blew us away and we would have never predicted that is what they would have done. But after it happened again and again we began not to be surprised when they told us that they burned our words and works.

Audience: There is a spiritual open house in New York City and I got off the subway and here was some kind of weird Christian fundamentalist group and he talked about energy pulses confirming something about the Virgin Mary and said well that is interesting, here is a spiritual event that is coming up and within two seconds after I handed him the pamphlet he was crumbling it up and throwing it away.

JJ: I can imagine, at a family reunion a while back I gave a copy of the Immortal to Curtis’s brother who was still in the Mormon Church and he did not want to refuse it because he did not want to hurt my feelings but he just could not hold it steady in his hand. It was like it was warm or hot in his hand or something. Strange.

When I visit my family members and look in their library the Immortal is never there even though I have given them all a copy. It is funny that how a message of light for those who are in darkness is very difficult for them to handle. It is like in the election of Abraham Lincoln for instance. We all acknowledge now he was a great Avatar and liberator, and most historians think he was our greatest president. But when he was elected the South was repulsed by him. They had heard the Lincoln and Douglas debate where he said, “A nation cannot exist half free and half slave and a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.”

Those words reverberated in the south and right after he was elected the south determined that they had to fight this guy. This is what happens with words of light when they are sent to where darkness is. They will be fought, they will be fought just like I talked about in discussing the words and works of the two witnesses. The beast fights against them and attempts to destroy them until their dead bodies are lying in the streets of the symbolic New Jerusalem and then people are sending gifts to one another because they are so happy that they can just have their little mediocre beliefs to celebrate.

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