Seer Stones

This entry is part 12 of 50 in the series 2011A

JJ, You said that this is a gut feeling that he is on to something. Are you able to get soul contact that too many vaccine shot is causing autism? Is this mostly going with your gut feeling?

I think you’d call it more of a gut feeling mixed with common sense.  If even too much water can kill you then six doses of the poisonous substances in a little child could indeed pose a risk.  There really needs to be some legitimate research into all aspects of the vaccines to put the public’s mind at rest.
So, if a person works around the signs in one direction, then when they become a disciple reverse directions, at what point (sign) does the reversal usually occur?

This occurs when the seeker establishes a valid soul contact.  The soul leads the disciple in the opposite direction of the astral self.  The reverse direction of the Zodiac is a symbol of the greater reverse that occurs within.

If a person’s rising sign is the same as their sun sign, does it likely mean they failed to learn the major lesson of their last life (well enough)?

No.  It usually means they have decided to focus on one major area of development rather than scatter their energies.

Question for JJ. Joseph Smith had taught that everyone could and should have their own seer stone.
What’s your take or knowledge on this? Is it meant literally? If so how do we find ours? Or is there an esoteric meaning only? Or is it just a tool to focus the mind and energy like a wand or rod etc.?

I am curious because Seer stones were quite prevalent in JS and BY day and in Salt lake in the 19th century. Kids were using them to find lost items for people and telling them how their relatives were doing in far away places etc. Why have we lost that and how do we get it back?

If I am entitled to it I want my seer stone!

It might be interesting to note that Joseph used a seer stone to translate the Book of Mormon and reveal his early revelations.  But later in life he didn’t seen to use it at all but shifted his attention away from revealing data to revealing principles.  It is also interesting that his greatest teachings were merely received through contemplation without the aid of a stone.

A stone, a crystal, tea leaves, ink blots, a fire and other items can provide points of focus that when used effectively can stimulate the consciousness to see things previously hidden.  In a way these things are like training wheels to aid the seeker in developing his inner abilities.  Eventually he can drop these aids for most types of seeing, especially as far as principles go.  They are most useful in finding hidden data though not always accurate unless used by a high initiate.

It is also interesting that the seer stone has gone out of vogue in this age.  About the only time you hear any mention of it is when some Mormon offshoot prophet claims revelation.

This subject can make for an interesting assignment.

Find a crystal or rock a couple inches in diameter and enter a dimly lit place where you can barely make out the outline of the stone.  Then think of something you want to know and stare into it for about ten minutes.  As soon as you see images focus on them and see where this takes you.

Members can post their experiences the next couple days.

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  3. Our small handheld devices such as my iPhone are quite symbolic of the Urim & Thummin, which means lights & perfections – a very fitting description for a LCD (liquid crystal display) that lights up. With my iPhone (which many tech blogs jokingly refer to as the Jesus Phone) I can see the Future (weather reports, etc.) the Past (wikipedia), and know what is going on all over the world. I also have access to a wealth of knowledge… If I were the only one with such a device connected to a wealth of knowledge such as the Internet, I would surely be considered a prophet with a magic stone of curious workmanship with light and lots of tiny “perfections” built into it. I can put all sorts of data onto it. I even have an app that I can use to hold my phone up to text in another language and it changes it into English on my screen to perform translations. With the newer iPhones you can talk to someone with video chat great distances away. It is interesting that the warning about the Urim & Thummin is to be righteous, “lest they look for that which they ought not.” We can also find all manner of wickedness to feed our carnal desires.

    It really is a powerful miracle device.

    Perhaps it is an example of our internal potential and someday we won’t need such a device to perform the same tasks.

  4. A few years ago I had a small crystal that I wore around my neck. It was quite unusual, in that it was green at the bottom and then clear quartz and every time I really looked into it I could see three small faces. I knew it was a man, woman and man in the crystal, but I couldn’t clearly see what they looked like, but I knew that they were in there.

    I am going to try doing this experiment as I have quite a few crystals in my room, and I will let you know if I see something.


  5. I posted my experiences some time back and I was not using a object, got to know about a phone call in advance for example.

  6. The 3 Groups

    “3. The third group will consist of those who have obtained a degree of soul contact. This is the group prophesied by Isaiah: “They shall see eye to eye when the Lord shall bring again Zion.” [Isaiah 52:8]
    Isaiah was speaking of the center between the eyebrows, the third eye, which perceives the intuitive level through the soul.

    When two people perceive through this ajna center they will perceive the same principles and see the same vision.

    Now here is the problem of discernment from the viewpoint of the outside observer:

    To them there are only two categories. They see groups one and three as the same and group two as the only ones thinking for themselves.”

    Copyright © 2005 by J J Dewey, All Rights Reserved

  7. I picked up a rock in the back yard a couple of years when I was cleaning out weeds and stones. I think the rock was partly quartz, but I don’t know. This was right after Chris Nemelka was boasting about a Urim & Thummin that he claimed to have and he also claimed that the stones were “programmed” to only work for his DNA. I noticed when I held this stone, that I saw a faint glow about it. I don’t think the glow was due as much to me holding at it as it was to me looking at it.

    I have practiced JJ’s technique of “seeing without looking” to spot auras and etheric bodies for years, and I can pretty much see a glow around anything — people animals, plants, and rocks. I was once looking at one of our cats when I noticed the glow around her. She glowed brighter and brighter until I saw what appeared to me that she was stepping out of her body. I say a transparent, etheric, glowing kitty standing next to a solid, physical kitty. I watched this for a couple of minutes, then she appeared to step back into her body. It’s interesting because just as I am writing this. she jumped up on the desk and walked past the monitor.

    A woman I knew in Sacramento back in the 80’s was into Wicca and crystals. She was trying to get me to delve into it. She placed various stones in my hand and wanted me to close my eyes and sense the various vibrations given off by each crystal. I felt nothing. I wanted to do something with her, but I didn’t think of this until later. I wished I could have just taken her by the hand, and just sent out spiritual vibrations and asked her if she could feel them. Can you feel the vibe of another human being?

    I am sure if we use any object as a point of focus, we can gain insights that were previously hidden to us by focusing at it. One thing I particularly like to do this by going out in nature and trying to focus on individual leaves, trees, or blades of grass. It helps me feel a real connection with things around me. And, when you really think about it, the connection is more “real” than the illusion of separation. The secret is to be open to any possibility, set aside your preconceived notions, then take the time and the patience to look and listen to your surroundings.

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