The Holy Spirit & Questions

The Holy Spirit & Questions

Question: What is the Holy Spirit and how will it lead you to the Spirit of God or Christ consciousness?

JJ: The Holy Spirit is associated with the Third Aspect. The First Aspect is the Father, or Power. The second is The Son, or Love Wisdom and the third is the Holy Spirit, or Active Intelligence.

This Third aspect is sometimes called Intelligence in Matter. That seems to be a strange phrase that means little to the average student but the truth behind it is profound.

The intelligence of God in the far past created all physical matter. To do this required the application of great intelligence to put together atoms, electrons, protons quarks etc. After the creation of matter was set, the intelligence of God remained behind implanted in matter. This implanted intelligence sustains all creation and keeps everything from falling apart and disintegrating into nothingness.

This universal intelligence, which is the Holy Spirit. knows all the secrets of creation and can also tune into all life including you and I.

The soul and the Holy Spirit are not the same thing. The soul is the doorway to higher spheres and opens communication with the Holy Spirit and the spiritual internet behind the Oneness Principle.

On each populated planet there is a high entity who is adept at tuning into this Divine Intelligence and this entity will represent this Third Aspect. On earth this person is called The Mahachohan. Part of his job is to channel the intelligence of the Holy Spirit to seekers of truth upon this planet.

The reader wanted to know how the Holy Spirit will lead to the Christ Consciousness. The Christ consciousness is often liberally used with little understanding, but it embraces love and wisdom. Embracing the intelligence of the Holy Spirit leads the seeker to discover both love and wisdom. Mastery of this is wrought out in the experience of life.

Question: Where/how did you learn so much about how to correctly translate the Bible?

I’ve used a Concordance many times and don’t think I could ever be as proficient at correct translations as yourself.

JJ: Thanks for the vote of confidence. The two main tools I currently use are Strong’s Concordance and The Blue Letter Bible, which is online. It gives you lots of tools, even the tense of the various words.

When I come across a mysterious word I will often check out the root word from whence it came and then check to see the context it was used in other locations within the Bible. If you can find it used a dozen times you will begin to get a clear idea of the true Biblical meaning of the word. I say Biblical because some of the Hebrew meaning in the Bible from thousands of years ago has been lost and the only way to get a clear meaning is to see how it was used in context all the times it was used.

When you examine the raw Hebrew words you will see that they often do not paint a picture in the same way as modern languages but seem to leave a lot more up to the intuition of the reader. It seems to present the major thoughts and leaves the minor details up to us.

Question: In an overshadowing where two entities are involved who reaps the results of good or bad karma?

JJ: You could roughly liken it to a business owned by two people. They share responsibility for is performance.

Any type of service either pays off bad karma or creates a surplus of good.

Question: Will the overshadowing always be a master?

JJ: An entity would have to be a master or above to initiate an overshadowing. Walk ins are done by advanced humans with a strong desire to serve.

Question: If one had a hobby for learning different languages in a past life could the same person in a different life not share that same hobby?

JJ: We will often work at a major interest for several lifetimes in a row or until the soul sends us in a different direction. The basic talent you acquire can be easily retrieved in any future life. Let us say that John Lennon comes back as a politician. He would still love music and probably dabble at it in his spare time but his major attention would be in his new direction.

“A child educated only at school is an uneducated child.” – George Santayana

Sept 23, 2010

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True Past Lives

True Past Lives

I thought I would make a few comments on the recent round of conversations concerning past lives of famous figures and the persons identified in “Secret Places of the Lion.”

George Hunt Williamson claimed to have discovered in Peru a manuscript kept by the White Brotherhood that revealed the essential information in his book. Whether or not this is true, it is true that there is a Goodly Company of advanced souls that incarnate again and again in the service of humanity. One can surmise that a significant person in history who has accomplished a worthwhile service of value may be one of them.

The question is which one? Was Brigham Young Solomon? Was Joseph Smith, Joseph of the Old Testament and others indicated there?

Were some members of the Keys back there with Jesus and the Apostles?

It is interesting to speculate, but unless there is some message from a past life that your soul wants you to know the chances of knowing the exact truth is fairly slim.

I have had past life readings from a number of psychics and no two have told me the same thing. There has, however, been a common thread among all the readings, as I recall, and that is they all perceived me as some sort of teacher, shaman or magician that knew things that the people as a whole did not. It would make fascinating reading to reveal some of them.

What does this tell you?

It says that they tuned into the basic true vibration from the Akashic records but could not tune into the fine details with accuracy.

The most likely person to tune into one’s own past lives is himself. This is because he has a right to know providing his soul is in agreement. We are also the most deceived about our own past lives. Because of glamour we often see ourselves as being more important in the past than we are in the present. If a person claims to be a great one from the past yet does nothing significant in the present then you can be assured that something does not compute.

It is possible for a third party to read our past lives but accuracy is rare unless that person is a master or close to it.

It is a positive thing that we do not remember our past lives for it forces us to focus on the present. After all, the reason we die when we do is that the life has served its purpose and the soul wants to place us in a new and different situation where we will cease concentrating on the old and concentrate on the new.

In summary, Secret Places of the Lion gives us food for thought but I do not think it is 100% accurate. Past lives given by Sharón, psychics and others are also good food for thought but may or may not be true.

What is true is the present and our power to make something of it. What is also true are all the principles that have been covered on the Keys. These can be taken to the bank of the soul and once understood can be used for the rest of the current life as well as future ones.

A principle truly registered in the psych stays with us for not only the present life, but all future ones. Facts come and go. Therefore, seek understanding of the language of the soul, the language of everlasting principles.

Question: Was there a particular reason for you including The Secret Places of the Lion in the Archives, so people could delve into past lives etc?

JJ: I first read this book many years ago just as I was discovering the principle of reincarnation. It helped to open my eyes to the principle.

The most likely person to tune into his own past lives is himself. This is because he has a right to know providing his soul is in agreement. We are also the most deceived about our own past lives. Because of glamour we often see ourselves as being more important in the past than we are in the present. If a person claims to be a great one from the past yet does nothing great in the preset then you can be assured that something does not compute.

Question: What about if that person who had been great in a past life was now having a Sabbath life of rest

JJ: If Einstein were having his Sabbath life as John Doe, he would still have the intelligence of Einstein. When one has a Sabbath life he just doesn’t sit around and do nothing. Often he will do as great a work as ever. Instead of being boxed in with many problems to solve he is freed of many restrictions and can do whatever is fun to him. For many people work is fun. Others just want to go fishing or play golf.

If Abraham Lincoln were here among us enjoying his Sabbath life he would still be a fascinating person but instead of having a great burden of saving the union he would be free do something he liked that was less strenuous.

Many who have occasional soul contact are incorrect when trying to figure out the past lives of others. I’ve only had my soul give me a past life impression on a couple people and that was because they have been close to me for numerous lifetimes. One of them verified I was correct when I took her back and she revealed the name I was given and information she couldn’t have known from this life.

Past life regression has nothing to do with soul contact. Much investigation can occur without having soul contact. I have said that our soul will not reveal them to us unless it is important for us to know. That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with using our own resources to learn whatever we want whenever we want. What we learn on our own through using regression techniques usually doesn’t distract that much, but it could if a person becomes over obsessed with a past identity. Putting too much attention on anything can be a distraction.

By being born with no past life memories we are freed up to concentrate on the present, but that doesn’t mean we do not incorporate the knowledge of discoveries we make along the way.

I have revealed only one past life and that was harmless because it carried with it no authority that I must be followed because of any greatness. There is nothing wrong with revealing who you think you might have been in a past life as long as you do not try to claim you must be followed because you were some great being or use it to establish beastly authority or enhance glamour.

Jesus said the first shall be last and the last first. Some of those who saw themselves as the first in past lives because they were close to Jesus, Buddha, George Washington etc may find themselves unable to deal with the next steps that now have to be taken that are different from the past. The only way out of this cycle is to stay open to new truth as is a little child.

Question: Can more than two or three souls/ or person’s occupying the exact same body at the exact same time, or overshadowing the body or only one soul overshadow one body at a time? Does it have to be a master or can it be an advanced soul?

JJ: It is obviously possible for more than two to occupy one body at one time. After all when Jesus cast the evil spirits into the swine they said their name was legion because they were many.

On the side of light there is not the need for such multiple occupations as that would be a waste of time. On the other hand, when Jesus was sharing a body with the Christ, he was sharing consciousness with a great host of intelligences connected through the Oneness Principle, but only one other actual entity was dwelling in his living space.

Sept 6, 2010

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Why We Forget

Why We Forget

Question: Do we lose our memory and become childlike so the necessary lessons can be learned in a productive way and move us forward in our physical and spiritual progression?

JJ: The technical reason we lose our memory is because of our identification with our physical bodies and the material world. Fortunately, when the body dies the record of our lives remains in the permanent atom that we take with us.

Past lives can be recalled but to do so one has to have the knowledge revealed through the soul, or disconnect from the physical through meditation or relaxation techniques so the memory can be accessed.

To understand how much our memories are connected to our bodies it is helpful to study your dreams. If you think back to your many dreams you may recall that in many of them you remembered few accurate memories of your preset life. Sometimes you will have a different identity completely. Other times you will have a different spouse, friends, home, occupation, car, etc. The reason for this is you are partially disconnected from your body during sleep, so your memories are not accurate. Your dreams are composite of a hodge-podge of memories from this life, previous lives and impressions picked up from other entities.

When we awaken and focus on the physical then our memories in the physical are fairly accurate. But that focus overshadows all other memories from the past and makes them difficult to access.

So why does the Divine Plan allow for us to forget past lives as we enter into a new one?

The answer is quite simple. A new start with a blank slate in each life forces us to choose and focus on something new to learn.

Take a look at some of the aging rock musicians for example. Some of them have not had a hit for 20-30 years, but they still keep on playing the old hits over and over and any new music they write sounds stale. They’ve lost their edge, but still keep on doing the same thing instead of learning something new.

For many people like that the only thing that will direct them on a new path of learning will be death, forgetting and rebirth.

A few years ago, Michael Jordan quit basketball and decided to do something new for a star player. He tackled a sport that required new learning — baseball. This was a sport that he was not that good at yet. I thought — good for him. That’s a sign of an evolved soul to force himself to do something new when it is the path less traveled on.

I was cheering him on, but then after a season or two he decided it was too difficult and he missed the accolades of being the best at his chosen sport and he moved back into basketball.

This just illustrates how tough it is to move away from something we are good at to learn something new when the new learning is not only difficult, but sometimes humiliating.

Now in his next life, if Michael Jordan is a little shorter and has a dad that teaches him baseball, he is likely to persevere in it and succeed. It will be helpful to him that he will not be distracted by memories of the cheering crowds for him being the greatest basketball player of all time.

Jesus said, “you must be born again to enter into the kingdom of God.” Such a kingdom consists of entities who are learning new things and moving forward. We are born again so we can participate in that.

This is also a key to overcoming death. We die when we finish effective learning for a particular life. If one can internally be born again and be flexible enough to take an entirely new course of learning as prescribed by his soul then he can extend his life a significant amount.

(Note from 2025: A recent study shows that people with past life memories often have emotional problems caused by disturbing memories. 71% reported childhood phobias, far above typical rates, with most persisting into adulthood. Here is a LINK to the article)

Question: Where do you see the soul residing in relationship to the body?

JJ Good answers from the group on this and thanks Larry for your comments on my books. I’ll add my two cents.

Part of the confusion comes from the fact that, in our society, the word “soul” is used very loosely with many different applications. Often times the astral body or even the etheric double is called the soul, but these are only vehicles and not soul.

Technically soul energy is that which is created through the interplay of spirit and matter, or the formless worlds and the worlds of form.

The term “the soul’ can refer to the Solar Angel but can have wider applications. It can refer to our consciousness ascending to soul contact, meaning that the consciousness centers on soul energy which opens the door to all worlds. When this door is open then the consciousness can be outside the body as you describe – or it can be within the body.

Every living being has a consciousness that it owes to soul energy and has a certain frequency. Through soul contact any individual can tune into the frequency of any other being. Sometimes we do this without realizing it.

Many times when people think they are contacting the dead when they are merely tuning into the person’s frequency. When an entity’s frequency is contacted then one can receive from such frequency – very similar information to that which he would receive from the real person.

For instance, a psychic could tune into Napoleon’s frequency and channel him even if he is reborn in the physical and in his new identity and frequency is communicating nothing to the medium. Even so his old frequency and identity remains embedded in soul essence.

There is no present or future, only the past, happening over and over again, now. – Eugene O’Neill

April 11, 2010

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Shamballa

Shamballa, Part 1
Where is Shamballa?

Esoteric students often associate Shamballa with the name of the seventh kingdom on the earth, but that is not technically correct. Instead, DK says this about the sixth and seventh kingdoms:

“To these kingdoms no names have as yet been given, because the possibility of their existence is only now just beginning faintly to penetrate into the consciousness of the disciple and the initiate.” Rays and Initiations, Page 129

Even though the seventh kingdom has no name, in the next paragraph he does associate it with Shamballa:

“The seventh kingdom in nature is that of the Lives Who participate in full capacity of understanding with the group of Beings Who are the nucleus of the Council at Shamballa. Around the Lord of the World this group pivots;” Page 130

So technically, the seventh kingdom has no given name but consists “of the Lives Who participate in full capacity of understanding” with the great Council Chamber.

Why then has this great center been given no official name as far as humanity is concerned?

Apparently, it is thought that something does not warrant a name until it begins “to penetrate into the consciousness” of advanced humanity. A name is a special word that gives meaning, but if a thing is beyond the consciousness of a person or group then a name is meaningless. Only when humanity begins to have some conscious recognition and understanding of the seventh kingdom can a name be given by them.

You cannot name something if you do not know it exists and the name which the sixth and seventh kingdoms will eventually bear will be names given by humanity when humanity consciously has some understanding of them. Until then students will use the name Shamballa as given by the Hierarchy.

We have some understanding of the mineral, plant, animal and human kingdoms and have named them. Because of great lives like Jesus, the Buddha and others most of humanity understands there is at least one kingdom beyond human. Esoteric students have named this fifth kingdom, “The Spiritual Hierarchy;” whereas general humanity calls it “The Kingdom of Heaven,” or “Kingdom of God.”

General humanity sees the master teachers and the kingdom of heaven as taught by them as the ultimate and do not register the sixth and seventh kingdoms beyond them, so as yet there is no name for what which is not yet perceived. The name Shamballa merely causes us to stretch our minds to consider kingdoms above that which humanity can presently understand.

A seeker may consider this question: “Is Shamballa a place, and, if so, where is it?”

The answer seems to be yes and no.

On the yes side we find this:

“The central home of this Hierarchy (the seventh Kingdom) is at Shamballa, a centre in the Gobi desert, called in the ancient books the “White Island.” It exists in etheric matter, and when the race of men on earth have developed etheric vision its location will be recognised and its reality admitted. The development of this vision is rapidly coming to pass, as may be seen from the newspapers and the current literature of the day, but the location of Shamballa will be one of the latest etheric sacred spots to be revealed as it exists in the matter of the second ether. Initiation Human and Solar, Page 33

“Shamballa. The City of the Gods…It is the home of mysticism and the Secret Doctrine.” Initiation Human and Solar, Page 225

“Shamballa—The Sacred Island in the Gobi desert. The centre in central Asia where the Lord of the World, the Ancient of Days, has His Headquarters.” TCF Footnote [xci] 89

So, you read along and see these quotes and you’re convinced Shamballa is a place and then you read this:

“This Council Chamber (at Shamballa) is not a location or a place, but a state of consciousness within the all-enveloping Life.” Rays and Initiations, Page 256

So which is it. Is Shamballa a place or a state of consciousness? I find that the answer to such conundrums in the Bailey writings is to carefully examine the wording. In this case note that DK refers to consciousness “within the all-enveloping Life.”

The etheric form existence of Shamballa does have a location and place, but the members are not restricted to that location. A member of the Council Chamber or one tuning into its consciousness could be anywhere on the planet.

It is roughly comparable to saying that Washington DC is a place and headquarters in the United States, but there are many citizens not physically present in the nation’s capital.

Similarly, Shamballa has a central headquarters, but members with the consciousness of the seventh kingdom are citizens no matter where they are.

Presently Shamballa resides in the second ether, invisible to human eyes, but this will not always be the case:

“When these two centres (Humanity and the Spiritual Hierarchy) can work in full cooperation, then Shamballa will take form and will no longer be found existing only in cosmic etheric substance, as is now the case.” Rays and Initiations, Page 382

It is interesting that DK equates Sanat Kumara with the Ancient of Days from the Bible (Destiny of the Nations, Page 95) and the Book of Daniel speaks of a future time when he will manifest to the planet. Daniel speaks of the current age where the forces of evil make war with the saints (the enlightened) “and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.” Daniel 7:21-22

It also says this: “I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.” Daniel 7:13-14

Thus, DK tells us of a day that Shamballa will materialize in the physical and the Bible says that Sanat Kumara will as well.

That will be an interesting time.  

Shamballa, Part 2
Shamballa and the Rays

We’ve established that Shamballa is a foreshadowing of the seventh kingdom which will manifest on this planet. Since it represents such high consciousness to which we may attain it would seem advisable to see what the Bailey writings tell us about it.

First let us look at the rays that govern Shamballa. Most students are aware that the first ray of will-power-purpose dominates there as noted here:

“The Centre which is created by the Ray of Will or Power is called Shamballa and its major activity is bequeathing, distributing and circulating the basic principle of life itself to every form which is held within the planetary ring-pass-not of the planetary Life or Logos… This dynamic energy focuses itself through the Lives or Beings Who control and dominate Shamballa.” Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle, Page 183 & 129

Even though the first ray is very powerful there, the overall controlling energy is the second ray of love-wisdom:

“It is, however, equally true that Shamballa is primarily second ray as it is expressed, because that is the ray of the present solar system of which Shamballa is a part; and that the first ray, or its dynamic life aspect, is focused in the heart, for the heart is the centre of life.” Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle, Page 135

Then too the seventh ray plays a part for the “energy from Shamballa (embodying the will-to-good) is fused and blended with the organising energy of the seventh ray and then carried to humanity along the stream of love which emanates from the Hierarchy itself.”      Esoteric Astrology, Page 445

In addition, all the three major rays (1, 2 & 3) are represented by the triad of the three Buddhas of Activity: “In relation to Shamballa, this Triangle is composed of the three Buddhas of Activity Who represent conscious intelligent life, conscious, intelligent and active wisdom, and conscious, intelligent and active creation.” Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle, Page 185

The other four rays, 4, 5, 6 & 7 are not left out for one of the Lords of Karma “represents the four minor Rays of Attribute. It is the Lord of Karma Who implements the destinies of Those Who are conditioned by the third Ray of Active Intelligence.” Rays and Initiations, Page 724

In addition, DK through numerology reduced Shamballa to numbers: “To this centre we give the name Shamballa, the component letters of which are numerically: S.H.A.M.B.A.L.L.A. or 1.8.1.4.2.1.3.3.1. This word equals the number 24 which in its turn equals 6… The number 6 is the number of form or of manifestation.” Rays and Initiations, Page 79

Notice that there are four ones in the name indicate the emphasis on the first ray of power.

If a resident of Shamballa were to describe it to the average seeker, how would he go about it? We are told that it would be difficult, for much of what it is, is beyond that which is conceived by general humanity. For instance, he says this:

“There is naught in the world of Shamballa which is of the same nature as the phenomenal world of man in the three worlds, or even of the soul world. It is a world of pure energy, of light and of directed force; it can be seen as streams and centres of force, all forming a pattern of consummate beauty, all potently invocative of the world of the soul and of the world of phenomena; it therefore constitutes in a very real sense the world of causes and of initiation.” Discipleship in the New Age, Vol 2, Pages 292-293

This tells us that even though Shamballa has a physical extension composed of the second physical ether in the Gobi Desert that its pure nature is a consciousness beyond time and space. We are even told that it is beyond “the soul world.”

That would be where our Higher Self and the Solar Angel resides. From our point of view the soul world would seem like an ultimate destination, but even an advanced disciple has difficulty wrapping his mind around all Shamballa represents.

For the disciple to get a sense of Shamballa in his consciousness he must pick up the aspect of purpose and follow it:

“Shamballa is the place of purpose. It is a purpose which cannot be understood until the Plan is followed. Herein lies a clue.) Discipleship in the New Age, Vol 2, Page 519

DK does give us some hints as to what the focus is of the great lives in Shamballa. They “move entirely free from glamour; Their vision is one of extreme simplicity; They are concerned only with the great and simple duality of spirit and matter, and not with the many forms which the fusion of these two brings into being.” Rays and Initiations, Page 144

Then he tells us that “Shamballa which is essentially the energy of life itself, implemented by the will.” Rays and Initiations, Page 230 He equates this with the “divine potency, of embodied Purpose, expressing through evolutionary manifestation the divine Will.” Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle, Page 129

We conclude the essence of Shamballa is life itself animated by the first ray of Will, Power and Purpose, which is under the aspect of Love Wisdom of the Solar Logos.

We thus see that Shamballa exists in a very high state of consciousness relative to the human  

kingdom. Those who think they have had the ultimate contact need to think again.

 

Shamballa, Part 3
Who Resides in Shamballa?

The question then arises as to who dwells in Shamballa.

Most students are aware that Sanat Kumara along with six other Kumaras dwell there, but are a little fuzzy who else may be there. Concerning these seven it is written:

“There are seven Kumaras connected with our planetary evolution, of Whom four are exoteric; the four exoteric have vehicles in etheric matter; three Kumaras are esoteric and have their vehicles in subtler matters still.” TCF, Page 181, Footnote

Only four of them inhabit the etheric-physical Shamballa but they all dwell in the Shamballa consciousness.

These seven Kumaras are mentioned several times in the Bailey writings giving some the impression that is all there is for now, but in the beginning “one hundred and four Kumaras came from Venus to the Earth; literally the figure is one hundred and five, when the synthesising Unit, the Lord of the World Himself, is counted as one”. TCF, Page 387

This event happened eighteen and a half million years ago when the foundations of Shamballa on Earth were laid:

“It was decided about seventeen million years ago (the coming of the Hierarchy and the founding of Shamballa being about eighteen and a half million years ago) to have on the dense physical plane an organization and a headquarters for the mysteries, and to have a band of Adepts, and Chohans who would function in dense physical bodies and thus meet the need of the rapidly awakening humanity.” A Treatise on White Magic, Page 378

Shamballa then started out with 105 Kumaras. Has the number then been reduced to seven?

It appears the number may still be 105 for the text says this:

“These Kumaras [the 105] (or Their present substitutes) can also be divided into the seven groups which correspond to the seven Rays, and are in Themselves the life of the centre for which They stand. Fifteen, therefore, of these Entities (again the ten and the five) form a centre in the body of the planetary Logos, and the three Kumaras about Whom we are told (Who in Themselves are fivefold, making the fifteen) are the entifying Lives of the particular centre which is involved in the coming Initiation of the Heavenly Man, and to which the human units at this time, and during this greater cycle, belong.” TCF, Page 388

Notice that in speaking of the 105 Kumaras in the present time that he speaks of “their present substitutes.” And he speaks of the seven Kumaras as “seven groups” totaling 105.

Apparently the 105 (7×15) is an important number to maintain for when the original Kumaras departed, human initiates took their place.

“Many posts held hitherto by Venusian Entities were vacated in order that our humanity might occupy them, and a vast interchain radiation went on as many of the Kumaras and certain lesser existences quitted our earth chain, and entered upon subtler, and more advanced work.” TCF, Pages 1078-1079

Here he speaks of “certain lesser existences” indicating others who are not of the rank of a Kumara who inhabit Shamballa. It is most probable that all of these have not been identified in available writings.

We do know that those who have passed the sixth initiation who remain on the Earth as Nirmanakayas have access to Shamballa. We are told that “that Gautama Buddha, with several of his Arhats” (TCF, Page 1193) are examples of these. It is quite possible that these entities have taken the place of some of the 105 original Kumaras.

Theses Nirmanakayas are one of two groups who have attained Shamballa:

“The Members of the Council at Shamballa… divide Themselves into two groups which are called in the ancient parlance, Registrants of the Purpose and Custodians of the Will. Will is active. Purpose is passive, waiting for the results of the activity of the will. These two groups are reflected in hierarchical circles by the Nirmanakayas or the Planetary Contemplatives, and the Custodians of the Plan. The function of the Registrants of the Purpose is to keep the channel open between our Earth, the planet Venus and the Central Spiritual Sun. The function of the Custodians of the Will is to relate the Council, the Hierarchy and Humanity, thus creating a basic triangle of force between the three major centres of the planetary Life.” Rays and Initiations, Page 69

Here DK talks about and “inner group” of very advanced beings in Shamballa, and some of them are more advanced than Sanat Kumara:

Few of the great Lives Who form the inner group of the Council Chamber at Shamballa are now of greater advancement than he (Sanat); the “Supernal Three,” the “Radiant Seven,” the “Lives embodying the forty-nine Fires,” the “Buddhas of Activity,” and certain “Eternal Spirits” from such centres of dynamic spiritual life as Sirius, or from the constellation which at any one time forms a triangle with our Sun and Sirius” and a Representative from Venus are of greater—far greater—advancement.” Rays and Initiations, Pages 141-142

If there is an inner group there would also be an outer, which most likely would be the Nirmanakayas.

So this inner group consists of some of the most evolved entities within or solar system plus great beings external to it such as the Avatar of Synthesis:

“Shamballa—the planetary head centre—invokes energies outside the planetary life… The Avatar of Synthesis will draw very close to humanity and He will inaugurate the ‘reign of Avatars’ Who will be embodied Purpose and spiritual Will.” Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle, Page 134

We are told that the Lords of the Rays are “more advanced in the spiritual scale than are those great Lives who form the Council of the Lord of the World in Shamballa,” but they have representatives who “constitute a body of directing Forces in collaboration with the Lord of the World at Shamballa.” Esoteric Healing, Page 298 & Destiny of the Nations, Page 144

In addition, we are told that members of the Council Chamber at Shamballa “work in full unanimity with the Lords of Karma.” Rays and Initiations, Page 118 This indicates that these great Lords have a presence there.

We see from the writings that there is quite a wide selection of great entities who work in Shamballa.

The greatest of all in our solar system is the Solar Logos who dwells on its own plane but has strong influence in Shamballa:

“Shamballa, as it constitutes the synthesis of understanding where our Earth is concerned, is also the centre where the highest Will of the Solar Logos is imposed upon the Will of our planetary Logos.” Externalization of the Hierarchy, Page 534

Finally, we see that all of us dwell in Shamballa in a round-about way. The highest part of ourselves, our monads, have never left the highest spiritual realm and the human initiate will eventually “evoke response from the Spiritual Triad and thus reach the Monad in its high place of waiting in Shamballa.” Rays and Initiations, Page 61

And what is the highest part of ourselves, the monad, waiting for? It is waiting for the Prodigal Son to return home to share the high consciousness in Shamballa. After the long wait is finished, we are told that: “Life is now liberated, owning the quality of conscious knowledge and the fruit of all experience. These are the gifts of soul and form combined.” Esoteric Healing, Page 502

 

Shamballa, Part 4
The Shamballa Energy

We have already mentioned that Shamballa strongly represents the energy of the First Ray, but what does this mean as far as its influence goes on the lower kingdoms?

The first ray is commonly called the ray of power, but has three main aspects which are Will, Power and Purpose. All three of these are powerful agents projected to the Spiritual Hierarchy and humanity to further evolution upon the earth.

When we speak of Purpose in connection with Shamballa, we are not speaking of it as commonly understood, but it represents an alignment of the higher mind with definite plans from the Lord of the World as well as the Solar Logos.

Then we have the will aspect that goes far beyond what we see as human determination but is carried out when the higher mind aligns with higher lives and makes definite decisions to select and direct energies to further the Plan and the Purpose of the Plan.

Finally, we have the Power aspect which is the easiest for seekers to understand for power exercised on any level is pretty much recognized or what it is. Raw power is neither good or evil, but its results depend on the intelligence that receive it and put it to use.

These three aspects affect humanity through “three great energies… focused in Shamballa, the seat of fire:”

The first is the Energy of Purification. DK says that “It involves the elimination of all that hinders the nature of divinity from full expressionThis necessitates the leaving behind, stage after stage, cycle after cycle, life after life, and plane after plane, of every tendency in the form nature which veils or hides the glory of God. It is essentially the energy which substitutes good for evil.

The second is “The Energy of Destruction: This is a destruction which removes the forms which are imprisoning the inner spiritual life, and hiding the inner soul light.”

The third is “The Energy of Organisation.”

This is basically that energy that creates and organizes in the worlds of time and space so material manifestation is brought in alignment with Spirit. Among humanity it inspires us to create better forms after old forms and impediments have been removed. (See Rays and Initiations, Pages 84-86)

We thus have this sequence. First purification removes that which hinders the release of divine power. Second this power is released that destroys forms that are hindering divine expression. Finally, the energy of purposeful organization and creation takes place that creates a new cycle of useful forms more in harmony with Divine Will.

This third aspect finally reveals the love divine which is behind all that God has made, but it often seems that there is not much love behind the first two aspects when they are released

The forces from Shamballa are extremely powerful, from a human point of view, and can overwhelm and even frighten a disciple when they are picked up. For this reason, “The individual must be protected by the group from the terrific potencies which emanate from Shamballa. These must be stepped down for him by the process of distribution, so that their impact is not focussed in any one or all of his centres but is shared by all the group members. Here is the clue to the significance of group work.” Rays and Initiations, Page 68

This energy is different from the second ray of Love-Wisdom radiated from the Hierarchy, but nevertheless, when perceived the disciple does not question its divine source.

Because of its immense power “Most of the response to the Shamballa activity is characterised by fear and terror, by sensitivity and distressingly developed reactions to the forces of hate and separation. Only a few, here and there, really grasp the vision of the future and realise what is going on, seeing truly the beauty of the emerging plan.” Destiny of the Nations, Page 20

Indeed, the power released from Shamballa is great and has even destroyed an entire civilization in the past for “The last major intervention in Atlantean days came via Shamballa and resulted in the partial destruction of entire continents and lands.” Esoteric Astrology , Page 441

This caused a great disruption, but it had to be done to prevent the imprisoning of the human soul by dark powers:

“In Atlantean days when the power of the Black Lodge was so great that defeat faced the Hierarchy and the destruction of the human soul. Shamballa then interfered, and the world of that time was destroyed. This period is recognised in modern history as the time of the Great Flood.” Externalization of the Hierarchy, Pages 438-439

Because the powers of Shamballa have been used mostly to destroy old forms interfering with Spirit this creates a great disturbance to those who are attached to those forms which no longer serve humanity.

The plan is always to release the third aspect of power to build the new, the good, the beautiful and the true, but because of human imperfection and focus on the forces of materialism we haven’t seen many examples of this aspect of divine creation, though there have been a few. But it is hoped that this creative aspect that reveals the love of God behind what appears to be unsettling times will finally manifest for all to see in the Aquarian Age.

Since the fall of Atlantis, the release of the Shamballa energy has mainly been channeled through the Hierarchy and then safely directed toward the human kingdom. They have been hesitant to release it directly to humanity for “the oft misunderstood fact that the same energy or identical force will produce results within the consciousness of a Christ or within the consciousness of anti-Christ.” Rays and Initiations, Page 232

Yet a direct release to humanity has more potential power for good so around 1745 the Kumaras in Shamballa noted that humanity had advanced enough that it was worth the risk to release this energy directly to us. It would create great disturbance but it was believed the end would be good.

After that time, “The will aspect of divinity made its first definite and direct contact with the human mind. The impact was direct and not deflected-as had hitherto been the case-to the Hierarchy and from thence to humanity. According to the type of man or group who responded or reacted to this contact, so were the results; they were very good or exceedingly bad. Great and good men appeared and enunciated the truths needed for the New Age, and of these Lincoln, Roosevelt, Browning, Briand and a host of lesser men could be cited. Evil and pernicious men also emerged, such as Hitler and the group he gathered around him, bringing much evil upon the Earth.

“At the same time, the will-to-good from Shamballa evoked the latent goodwill in man, so that today and increasingly over the past one hundred years, goodness of heart, kindness in action, consideration for others and mass action to promote human welfare have spread over the Earth.” Externalisation of the Hierarchy, Page 667

He says this release created all kinds of ideologies thought to be good at the time such as, “Fascism, Democracy (the U.S . Constitution) and Communism as well as that peculiarly distorted blend of Fascism and Communism which goes by the name of Hitlerism or Nazism.” Externalization of the Hierarchy, Pages 126-127

Numerous powerful men came forward of a very disturbing nature who destroyed the old forms: “The men who inspired the initiating French revolution; the great conqueror, Napoleon; Bismarck, the creator of a nation; Mussolini, the regenerator of his people; Hitler who lifted a distressed people upon his shoulders; Lenin, the idealist, Stalin and Franco are all expressions of the Shamballa force and of certain little understood energies.” Externalization of the Hierarchy, Page 133

A powerful and direct release of the Shamballa energy occurred in the 1930’s, but instead of being picked up by disciples it was picked up by the adepts of the Black Lodge. “These evil beings have responded to the will energy of Shamballa and to the life-giving vitality, but have used it in keeping with their own evil intentions and with the power conferred by their standing upon the cosmic ladder of evil. Hence the war.” (Word War II) Rays and Initiations, Page 232

Hitler’s Germany used this energy destructively, but fortunately was defeated by the Allied nations. Even though great destruction occurred humanity made a lot of progress because of the war. Many old forms were destroyed and replaced by newer and better ones.

The Shamballa energy continues to be released periodically but “the risks will then not be so great as in the first impact, owing to the spiritual growth of mankind. Each time this energy strikes into the human consciousness some fuller aspect of the divine plan appears.” Rays and Initiations, Page 716

Since World War II tremendous changes have occurred and many of them are due to advanced individuals picking up the will-to-good and creative aspects of the Shamballa force. Let us hope that humanity has matured enough to use this energy in a constructive mode.

To make this happen disciples cannot just sit back and let others use this energy, but DK encourages disciples to invoke it to draw down inspiration about the plan so they can assist in manifesting it.

He says that “the concentrated clear and dynamic invocation of the spiritual Beings Who have created—or more accurately—have formed Shamballa, is the highest form of meditation possible upon our planet.” Discipleship in the New Age, Vol 2, Page 197

Let the disciples who wish to be a part of the plan invoke this energy so light and love and power will restore the Plan on earth.

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Is a Knowledge of Reincarnation Helpful?

Is a Knowledge of Reincarnation Helpful?

The Question: How does a knowledge of reincarnation lead to right human relations and “the solution of all the problems of humanity?”

On the road to answering this question we have other questions:

Does the belief in reincarnation make us lazy about seriously moving ahead spiritually? Does the belief in one life only have a positive effect spiritually?

So what does all this have to do with right human relations?

First, let us look at a most important principle that governs good relationships:

TRUTH.

The giving and receiving of honest, truthful communications is perhaps the most important ingredient of right relationships.

The easiest way to destroy a relationship is to deceive those in the relationship. This can create a distrust that can never be completely recovered.

So, what does deception have to do with reincarnation?

A wrong belief about this and other doctrines involves a self-deception and if the self is deceived then the communication with other selves will be deceptive also.

It is true that the resulting deceptive communication will not be intentional, but it will be deceptive nonetheless, thus obscuring right human relationships.

Let us take a look at one of the greatest relationship problems on the earth today. In some hotspots of the world we have terrorists who are willing to blow themselves up and kill innocent men women and children in the process to please their God.

What kind of relationship do the family victims have toward those who espouse such a philosophy? You are correct. It is generally abject hatred.

Now let us look at the cause of this willingness and eagerness for a devotee to sacrifice his life and kill innocent people.

In almost every case the suicide bomber believes in only one life.

He also believes that it is God’s will he destroy the opposing religion or race.

He also believes in an eternal heaven will be given him as a reward for fulfilling the will of God.

Now let us suppose this person was converted to the truth of reincarnation. How would he then view the situation?

The understanding of the law of rebirth brings in the law of cause and effect and makes it real. When the truth is seen the devotee would think twice about blowing up 50 people in a mixed crowd for he would be the cause of much needless human suffering.

How would he pay for such a crime in a future life? He took away the lives of children with no sensitivity to the feelings of the parents. To learn how the parent feels he may have to be reborn, become a parent and then suffer several of his children to be unmercifully killed by some madman.

The bomber perhaps killed a beloved spouse or two. He may have to pay this off in a future life by losing a loved one or two himself.

Now, the payment for such mistakes is not black and white in kind, but if his bomb kills 50 people he will have accumulated a debt of fifty lives. He will usually either have to suffer 50 unnecessary premature deaths or save fifty lives. Generally what happens is he will suffer enough to learn true empathy and pay the rest off with service of some kind. But the sad thing is that one so wild-eyed to kill himself and others for God will often take many lives and much suffering before he learns to walk in his brothers shoes.

A prime cause of hatred and poor relationships is intolerance for differences. This is especially true with physical differences such as race and differing belief systems. Terrorists often hate other races and beliefs.

Does an understanding of reincarnation alter this view?

Indeed. An understanding of reincarnation brings a realization that we have lived many lives and most of us have lived in many differing races and many belief systems. How can you hate a different race if you realize you may have been a member of that race a lifetime or two back? In addition, a hatred of a race will cause you to be born into that race in the future to force you to learn to love and understand them.

How can you hate a Moslem, a Buddhist, a Hindu, or a Jew if you realize that you have been there and may yet be born into many different religions in the future?

How can you hate gays when you realize that, no matter how straight you are now, that you are cyclically born with an attraction to the same sex and have to learn to wisely channel this energy?

How can you hate a criminal when we realize we have all been criminals in past lives?

How can we hate simple or backward people when we know that we have been simple and backward in our earlier lives?

How can you continue to hate your spouse when you realize that hatred will force you to meet again and learn to dispel the hatred? If he or she is hard to live with it would be wise to dispense with hatred so you do not have to put up with the negative personality many times in future lives.

Why would we want to hurt or injure anyone when we realize this creates a debt that we must pay, usually through the path of pain?

Indeed, the knowledge of the truth about reincarnation and cause and effect leads the disciple to the path of harmlessness. When correct understanding comes he daily, and sometimes hourly, contemplates how he can live his life so as to not harm another living soul.

Thus, we see that a basic doctrine such as reincarnation, which on the surface seems to have little to do with relationships, turns out to have much to do with them.

In the last reading assignment DK wrote:

“These ancient Mysteries were originally given to humanity by the Hierarchy and contain the entire clue to the evolutionary process, hidden in numbers, in ritual, in words and in symbology; these veil the secret of man’s origin and destiny, picturing to him, in rite and ritual, the long, long path which he must tread, back into the light. They provide also (when rightly interpreted and correctly represented) the teaching which humanity needs in order to pass from darkness to Light, from the unreal to the Real and from death to Immortality. Any true Mason who understands, even if only to a slight degree, the significance of the three degrees of the Blue Lodge, and the implications of that in which he participates, will recognise the above three phrases for what they are, and will recognise the significance of the three degrees. I mention it here with Masonic purpose because it is closely related to the restoration of the Mysteries and has held the clue (down the ages) to that long awaited restoration, to the platform upon which the required teaching can be based and the structure which can express (when freed of its Jewish names and nomenclature, which are long out of date, though right three thousand years ago) the history of man’s moving forward upon the Path of Return.” Reappearance of the Christ, Page 122

Here he makes an interesting statement that the nomenclature of the various mystery rites are outdated and need to be replaced by a new “platform” freed of old style religious dialog.

What do you suppose this new platform will be? What is needed today so that ceremonial magic will appeal to the masses?

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Number of Lifetimes

 

Number of Lifetimes

A reader, a student of Benjamin Crème, maintains that the average state of evolution of humanity increased 25-fold since the time of Christ. The reason he states for this is that new more advanced souls have come into incarnation.

He points out that since there were only 270 million on earth 2000 years ago and over 6 billion today that more advanced souls had to be brought in.

It is true that when certain spiritual advances come that advanced souls that have not incarnated for long periods will be born. A handful of such souls may already be born, but most of these are awaiting the time when the door to evil will be sealed shut, and such is not yet the case.

To increase the average point of evolution 25X for humanity as a whole would require a large number of such souls indeed. If you study the intelligence of the people of the past compared with the present there is no indication that spiritual evolution has made such an increase.

He further states that the lowest 41% of the people of today are at .1 or ten times advanced than the average at the time of Christ. This has no basis in either fact or reason, even if we consider that some more advanced souls have been born

The fact that there are many more people on earth today doesn’t necessarily indicate that new intelligent monads are coming into incarnation to fill the void. DK himself tells us that the population explosion is causing entities to incarnate more often to fill the gap. He also states that many are incarnating too soon to absorb the lessons of the past because of this circumstance.

Another important point to consider is this. A doubling of the population does not mean that twice as many souls will be needed for incarnation over an extended period.

Why is this?

Because of the great difference in the mortality rate. For a good portion of recent history, the average life span did not even reach the age of thirty. Some estimate it to be as low as 27 in the days of Jesus.

The average life span today is around 75 years. This means that there was almost three times the number of incarnations available for a similar time span 2000 years ago. In other words, the 270 million population in the days of Jesus would provide the birth frequencies as nearly 750 million today.

Even so, it is true that the shear increase in population has shortened the time between incarnations.

From my experience in taking people back into past lives I would guess that the average person (at least in the U.S.) has lived at least 3-4 lifetimes during the past 2000 years.

Crème again gives an illogical unprovable piece of data when he says that average humanity has advanced 25 times the point of the average in the time of Jesus. When one studies the history of the early Greeks and Romans the average people back then sound about as intelligent as they are today, but merely living in different circumstances.

There’s another point to consider and that is there is life in the earth as well as on the surface. This is taught in the scriptures several places. In the book of Revelations we read:

“And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.” Rev 5:2-3

Here we are told that there are men “under the earth.”

The Mormon scriptures say the same thing: “And this shall be the sound of his trump, saying to all people, both in heaven and in earth, and that are under the earth–for every ear shall hear it, and every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess…” D&C 88:104 Again, the scriptures says there are “people” “under the earth.”

DK gives similar evidence:

“It is His consciousness and His sensitive response to all forms and to all states of being and to all possible impacts and contacts which guarantees the developing consciousness of all the many lives within or upon this Earth of ours.”

Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle Pg 183

Here DK talks of lives “within or upon this Earth.”

If we consider that there is life within the earth then there could be a lot more opportunity for the 60 billion monads to incarnate than was previously realized.

Reader: You also write, “Where would I find the reference from DK on 1000 lives to reach perfection?”

JJ: Dk doesn’t give  a specific number though he say that one thousand is “the number of spiritual achievement.” Letters on Occult Meditation, Pg 80. I concluded this number by using the Law of Correspondences and corresponding a lifetime for each of the 1000 petals in the crown center.

Again the number 1000 comes up: In connection with the fourth world, Vyasa notes that it is the world of mastery, therefore the home of the Masters, and all liberated souls whose “food is contemplation” and whose lives are “for a thousand mundane periods,” therefore who have immortality. The Light of the Soul, Pg 300

The “thousand mundane periods” could represent 1000 lifetimes.

DK says repeatedly that there are many incarnations through which we must pass to achieve liberation. And even after we have gone so far as to achieve the first initiation we have a long ways to go to arrive at he second. He states:

“I would remind you here that many, many lives can elapse between the first initiation and the second-long, long interludes of silent and almost unapparent growth.” Discipleship In the New Age Vol 1, Pg 94-5

Then in other places he talks of the 777 incarnations of the human entity but then goes on to tell us the number is not exact.

Finally, he gives us a definite statement that the final number of incarnations is long indeed. He states:

“The initial vibration is slow and heavy, and millenia of lives have to elapse before the interchange of energy between the Ego and its reflection, the personal self (the lower threefold man) is such that the consciousness of the man occultly ‘awakens’ in the Hall of Learning. For advanced man at this time these incarnations took place upon the moon chain and in some cases upon certain planets connected with the inner round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Pg 825

Here we are told that it takes “millenia of lives” to achieve the Hall of Learning.

He further tells us that the number of lives we spend on a certain cycle will vary with the effort of the individual.

My conclusion is that each petal in the head does indeed represent a life and that such a life is a symbol of a step forward. Each of these 1000 steps may take several short lifetimes or perhaps a very successful one may cause us to take several steps.

One fact is certain. With the long journey we have ahead of us the average person is not going to leap ahead by a factor of 25X in a couple lifetimes.

When someone gives us an esoteric piece of data and the facts do not add up we must consider that it may be incorrect and use the highest we know in connection with the soul to formulate the truth. The mark of the beast must yield to the God within.

The reader quotes DK indicating that advanced humanity of today did not incarnate in earlier ages. By this he supposes that advanced humanity waited until this time to incarnate. This is possible for some souls, but he is misinterpreting DK here.

He tells us that the advanced souls of today did indeed refuse to incarnate for a period, but it was not recent history that they skipped but the primitive Lemurian days. And it was not only recently that they decided to incarnate, but began during earth life in Atlantean times many thousands of years before Christ.

He says:

“a large number of the present more advanced human beings came into incarnation in the middle of the Atlantean root-race.” Initiation, Human and Solar Pg 45

“As stated in various occult books, many of the present advanced humanity individualised on the moon chain, and only took physical bodies in the earth chain during the fourth root-race, thus escaping incarnation during the first three rounds, and the first two races of the fourth round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire Pg 364-5

Then he makes this interesting statement:

“The bulk of human beings are still Atlantean, still purely emotional in their reactions and in their approach to life. They are still governed predominantly by selfish desires and by the calls of the instinctual life. Our earth humanity is still in the Atlantean stage, whereas the intelligentsia of the world, and the disciples and aspirants, are passing rapidly out of this stage, for they reached individualisation on the moon chain, and were the Atlanteans of past history.” Esoteric Psychology Vol 2 Pg 25-6

Now according to Crème humanity before 2000 BC was at an average point of evolution of .002. If this were correct then the Atlantean consciousness would have been even lower since it stretches back in history hundreds of thousands of years.

Let us be generous with their spiritual evolution and use the more recent figure used by Crème of 2000 BC as their point and figure from there.

Now DK says in the above quote that “The bulk of human beings are still Atlantean… Our earth humanity is still in the Atlantean stage…”

The use of the word “bulk” would indicate more than half. A clue as to how much more than half is given his next statement: “the disciples and aspirants, are passing rapidly out of this (Atlantean) stage.”

Here we learn that even some advanced students have not left behind the Atlantean consciousness, but are in the process of going beyond it. But what percentage of humanity are disciples and aspirants? Very few, less than 1%.

This means that about 99% of the world today is at the Atlantean stage of evolution or at least they were in 1942 when DK made the statement.

The question then arises. How could average humanity be 125 times as advanced as the average of the population of 4000 years ago when 99% are still Atlantean in consciousness? The idea that we are progressing so rapidly is fanciful and does not harmonize with any of the ancient wisdom.

Reader: According to Benjamin Crème, the average number of lives between these initiations is around 7 or 8 or 9 lives – but can take up to 12 or 15 or even more lifetimes.

JJ This does not harmonize with the statement of DK: “I would remind you here that many, many lives can elapse between the first initiation and the second-long, long interludes of silent and almost unapparent growth.” Discipleship In the New Age Vol 1, Pg 94-5

7-9 life times is a far cry from “many, many.”

You seem to dispute the fact that it takes a thousand or more lives to achieve liberation. I was under the impression that you thought the number was less than a thousand. I was surprised to see you say that it takes hundreds of thousands of lifetimes.

DK does indicate it could be more than 1000. He says “The initial vibration is slow and heavy, and millenia of lives have to elapse before the interchange of energy between the Ego and its reflection, the personal self (the lower threefold man) is such that the consciousness of the man occultly ‘awakens’ in the Hall of Learning. For advanced man at this time these incarnations took place upon the moon chain and in some cases upon certain planets connected with the inner round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Pg 825

To achieve soul contact takes “millennia of lives.” This means over 1000 lifetimes though when he speaks of numbers over 1000 he could  be including lives we lived before this particular solar system or universe.

He also states: “What the Personality spends many thousands of lives in establishing is not going to be lightly altered when the Ego-working in the lower consciousness-seeks to effect a change.” Letters on Occult Meditation, Pg 82

Here he talks of “many thousands of lives.”

If it takes over a thousand lives to achieve liberation then it is impractical indeed that there could be enough lifetimes to speed the evolution of the average person 125 times in evolution since 2000 BC and 25 times since the time of Christ.

If liberation takes a hundred thousand lives, as you suggest, then average humanity would have to live through thousands of them over millions of years to move ahead as Crème suggests.

There is no indication in esoteric writings that a great influx of advanced souls are just coming in now to the extent that evolution is so speeded up. This also does not explain Crème’s statement that that average humanity increased in evolution five fold from 2000 BC to 1AD. There were not enough incarnations available to support such an increase, especially when you consider that the average person was lucky to get in one of his 1000+ lifetimes during that period.

Reader: There is a difference between intelligence and spiritual evolution.

JJ: I don’t think so. This may seem true if you gauge intelligence by the standard of brain activity, but intelligence goes far beyond this. There is emotional intelligence, intelligence of the higher mind, and spiritual intelligence.

A Master of Wisdom is called such because of intelligence. He is intelligent enough to Master wisdom.

“The glory of God is intelligence.”

Reader: Where does DK tell us that the population explosion is causing entities to incarnate more often to fill the gap?

JJ: DK writes: “For ages men have misused and wrongly employed a God-given function (procreation); they have prostituted their birthright, and through their laxity and license, and through their lack of control, they have inaugurated an era of disease, both mental and physical, of wrong attitudes and illusory relations which it will take several centuries to eradicate; they have also brought too rapidly into incarnation myriads of human beings who were not yet ready for the experience of this incarnation, and who needed longer interludes between births wherein to assimilate experience. Those souls who are unevolved come into incarnation with rapidity; but older souls need longer periods wherein to garner the fruits of experience. They are however open to the magnetic attractive power of those who are alive on the physical plane, and it is these souls who can be brought prematurely into incarnation. The process is under law, but the unevolved progress under group law as do the animals, whilst the more evolved are susceptible to the pull of human units, and the evolved come into incarnation under the Law of Service, and through the deliberate choice of their conscious souls.” Esoteric Psychology Vol 1 Pg 272

Here we are clearly told that that the high and low are both pulled prematurely into incarnation “who were not yet ready for the experience of this incarnation.” He says nothing about new souls coming in to fill the demand created with population increase.

He says they “needed longer interludes between births wherein to assimilate.” He is obviously talking about entities who have been incarnating all along and not a fresh round of souls.

As far as lives under the earth goes – DK says there are “many” different types there, but does not give enough details to settle any arguments.

You obviously have a sharp physical brain here which makes it surprising that you cannot see the flaw in Crème’s figures. If you examined his data with the same jaundice eye that you examine mine your belief system would be turned upside down.

I think that if Crème and I changed positions that you would accept anything I would put out without question.

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Stelle and Reincarnation

Stelle and Reincarnation

In a recent post a member tells us he was involved with Richard Kieninger’s group. Richard is the author of The Ultimate Frontier and founder of the Stelle Group in Illinois and later The Adelphi Organization in Quinlan, Texas.

In his book, first published in 1963, he described a number of meetings with the Brotherhood of Light where he was given a numerous teachings and assignments.

He was told to build a city called Stelle in Illinois to prepare for a cataclysm which would come around 1977. He was told that it would soon reach a population of 250,000.

Richard was asked to leave his own group twice. He blamed his loss of power on conspiracies within, but those who tried him for memberships claimed sexual indiscretions.

He left Stelle permanently in the 1980’s and founded The Adelphi Organization in Quinlan, Texas.

He made additional prophecies of World War III in 1999 and that a new land would rise out of the Pacific Ocean on May 5, 2000 where a new nation would be created by their group. By this time 90% of the world’s population was to have been destroyed.

The last I heard of Richard he was in jail for bank fraud. I just went to the Adelphi Web site and it indicates he died in 2002. I’m not sure if he died in jail or not.

I read his book, The Ultimate Frontier over twenty years ago and found it very fascinating and had some quite interesting teachings in it. I found it interesting enough to call him up and ask him some questions and later take a trip to Stelle and check it out.

When I visited Stelle around 1982 there were only about a dozen people living there. Most had departed to Texas and the homes left were very unkempt and the little community was being overrun by weeds.

I talked to several who were living there to get a feeling of their mindset and was disappointed at their lack of independent thought – that they seemed to prefer an authoritative structure, very similar to the Mormon Church.

Richard’s followers say that he has contact with the true brotherhood and they are the source of his teachings. His critics say that he got his material from the Lemurian Fellowship from Ramona California that he joined in the 1950’s. Elizabeth Claire Prophet also got inspiration from this group.

Richard also teaches about the two brotherhoods, but instead of calling the bad guys the Dark Brotherhood he calls them “Black Mentalists.” He claims they control their followers with mind control.

Richard claims that the Masters who worked through H. P. Blavatsky and Alice A. Bailey were black mentalists, even though there seems to be no record of his teachers telling him this. It appears that he came to this conclusion on his own. He seemed to have very little knowledge of the Bailey teachings but did seem to study other esoteric trains of thought.

Several old timers in the group have been associated with Richard’s group. Rick, the founder of the Keys was very heavily into the group and lived and worked with them.

All things express their nature. As you wear a feeling it becomes your nature. It might take a moment or a year – it is entirely dependent upon the degree of conviction. As doubts vanish and you can feel “I AM this,” you begin to develop the fruit or the nature of the thing you are feeling yourself to be. Neville

Signs of Reincarnation

Question: Did you ever do a handwriting analysis of Alice Bailey and Joseph Smith? If they had so many similar experiences in their lives, then maybe JS came back as AB.

JJ: I think I mentioned a few months ago that I did come across Alice A. Bailey’s handwriting and rated her intelligence as not as high as H. P. Blavatsky. She was intelligent but not high enough to have invented the writings she scribed.

I had wanted to examine her handwriting for some time and finally found her signature for sale on E-Bay. I bid on it but didn’t get it, but did manage to download a scan of it.

Alice A. Bailey and Joseph’s Smith’s writing had too many fundamental differences for them to be the same person.

Proving identity of different lifetimes through handwriting is tricky because there will always be some changes. If we look at a person’s handwriting in his youth, middle and old age we will generally see some significant differences, yet there will be certain threads that will be very similar, especially when we look at basic intelligence. The quality of intelligence never reverses (unless there is brain damage) and this is the most telling thing to look for.

Discovering past lives through handwriting is what first convinced me of reincarnation and lead me out of orthodox religious thought.

As I said, normally handwriting varies within a lifetime, let alone several lifetimes, so a conclusive match is difficult to produce. However, I had a particular associate that was a good test case. I had the advantage of looking at this person’s writing from an early age and found that the handwriting had changed very little throughout this life. I therefore, concluded this would be a good test case as I had a feeling as to who this entity was in a past life.

I was fortunate to be able to obtain the writing of this person’s potential past life and when I laid the two handwritings side by side I was stunned.

I recently compared JFK’s writing with H. P. Blavatsky and was impressed by the similarities, (See post #803-805)  but in the case of my associate the comparison was almost an exact match. In addition, there were several little idiosyncrasies that I couldn’t recall seeing in any other handwriting that were in these two.

As I stared at these two writings that matched beyond any possibility of chance my consciousness instantly changed. I realized that reincarnation was a fact and that everything I believed had to be taken apart and put back together again.

That was back around 1972 and a lot of water has run under the bridge since then. Since that time I have received many other impressive witnesses of past lives, many of which I cannot talk about. Most teachers who talk about their past lives are deluded because of glamour and it usually serves no useful purpose even if they are accurate. Suffice it to say that if the handwriting sample didn’t convince me then other things that have happened since then certainly would have.

Reincarnation is indeed a pivotal doctrine for once the truth of it is seen we can no longer swallow orthodox religious thinking and are forced to use our own mind to find the real truth behind the illusions, the outward authorities and past programming.

“Let the weak man say, ‘I am strong’ (Joel 3:10), for by his assumption, the cause substance – I AM – is rearranged and must, therefore, manifest that which its rearrangement affirms. This principle governs every aspect of life, be it social, financial, intellectual or spiritual. Neville

Feb 23, 2004

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Blavatsky’s Return

DID H. P. BLAVATSKY RETURN AS JOHN F. KENNEDY?
The Evidence Says Yes.

HPB: “There is no religion higher than truth.”
JFK: “Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer.”

HPB
Born: Aug 12, 1831
Died: May 8, 1891
JFK
Born: May 29, 1917
Died: Nov 22, 1963

These pictures of John F. Kennedy and H. P. Blavatsky bear a haunting resemblance. Look first at the eyes. Even more than the similarity of the physical images of the eyes is the look of them both has a haunting correspondence.
Also note the shape of the face, the nose, mouth and ears are very similar.

These above pictures provide interesting food for thought but do not provide enough proof to convince the the sincere seeker. The real seeker will want something more concrete. In this rare case we have the something more. We have something as concrete as the fingerprints of these two entities. We have their handwriting.

LET US LOOK AT THE HANDWRITING

The above sample of Kennedy’s writing is a draft of his inaugural address in 1961. Next to it is a  sample from HPB. Below is another sample of Kennedy’s writing from about 20 years earlier. Note that there are as many superficial difference between the two Kennedy samples as there is between the two above samples of the two entities.

 

ANALYSIS

Even though the pictures provide an interesting clue it was the handwriting of the two who clued me in. A friend gave me a web address containing H. P. Blavatsky;s handwriting. Up to this point I had only seen her signature, but when I finally got a chance to see a page of her writing I thought to myself: “There’s something familiar about this handwriting. It seems that I have seen it before.”

Having forty (now sixty) years experience with hand writing analysis, I rarely forget a script. I reflected a few moments and then it hit me. It seemed that the handwriting of Ms. Blavatsky was very similar to that of JFK.

I immediately retrieved several samples of the late President’s handwriting and made comparisons. As I compared the two side by side I could immediately see why Blavatsky’s writing had a familiar ring. They were very close indeed ­ close enough to make a powerful case that H. P. Blavatsky reincarnated as John F. Kennedy and became President of the United States.

It is interesting that many students of past lives believe that JFK was Abraham Lincoln in a past life because of the many synchronicities between the lives and associations of the two men. I never believed this, however. The reason is that I compared the handwriting of these two and concluded the differences were too basic for them both to be the same entity, even if we take into consideration that there will be some changes from life to life. Since there are changes in handwriting and personality from decade to decade within a single life it is only logical that there would be changes from life to life.

But the question is this: What would change from life to life and what would stay the same?

That which would change would be personality characteristics, cultural attitudes, the tendency toward being an introvert or extrovert and other more superficial things.

That which would remain similar would be related to intelligence. The intelligence would rarely be less as we progress from life to life, but would increase.

The intensity of feeling would also be quite similar as well as the emotional response ­ though emotional response does vary with time, especially if the person faces a trauma of some kind.

That said, take a look to the two handwriting samples and follow me in comparing them.

The most impressive thing to note is the basic intelligence manifested between the two ­ not only brain intelligence, but also emotional intelligence. When we look at the whole picture of the speed of thought, the perception, the passion, the ability to simplify, the aggressiveness etc we see here the handwriting of two of the most intelligent individuals in our history.

JFK is a little more intelligent overall than HPB but this is to be expected if the two are the same entity with JFK having a few years of extra learning under his belt.

Now let us itemize the similarities.

THE SIMILARITIES

EMOTIONAL RESPONSE
The easiest thing for the layman to see in the handwriting is the general slant. If one makes even a cursory look at the samples above he can see that the slant is very similar. This reveals the general outward emotional makeup.

More subtle and not so easily seen by the layman are the upstrokes in m’s, n’s and other letters which reveal the more inner emotional makeup.

These strokes revealing this inner makeup are also very similar.

EMOTIONAL INTENSITY
This is revealed by the pressure of the writing. Heavier pressure is usually revealed by heavier strokes, but since these samples were created with different pens and we do not have the originals it takes the skill of experience to make a judgment here. In my judgment the pressure is very similar. As evidence of this even the untrained eye can look at the samples and surmise that all of them were written with great intensity and higher than normal pressure applied to the pen.

Now we will examine more closely some other interesting similarities of the handwriting between the two entities. We could belabor this by going through them all one by one, but we will limit our investigation to the more unusual characteristics not found in most handwriting samples.

If, for instance we pinpoint two strokes found in common to 50% of all handwriting that does not present us with much proof, but if we present two items found only on one handwriting out of 100 then we have something. Then if we present two such characteristics we have an increased probability of 100X100 or one chance in 10,000 for the two showing up.

In the next section we will present enough similarities to increase the chances to over a million to one that H. P. Blavatsky and JFK are the same person.

First let us examine the similarities of words that are common to both handwritings. Since I have limited samples of each I was only able to pull a few exact word matches, but this is enough to be impressive indeed. They are more similar than one would expect even if it were a known fact that the two are the same entity separated by 60-80 years of time and circumstance.

WORD MATCHES

SPACE GAPS WITHIN A WORD
One of the most significant similarities between the writings are the gaps within individual words. These two also have short breaks with similar regularity within various words. This is fairly common and shows an intuitive nature, but these larger gaps are fairly rare, especially among the very intelligent.

Such gaps reveal a disconnected thinking that breaks somewhat from reality and is often found among those with low intelligence, drug users or someone physically ill. We know that JFK took an enormous amount of drugs throughout his life and was also plagued with painful illness which he attempted to mask.

Correspondingly, H. P. Blavatsky also suffered from painful illness. It is quite possible that she took some strong medications for them but I do not have any data on this. It is on record that she smoked up to 200 cigarettes a day and this by itself would inject an enormous amount of nicotine in the system.

Even so, neither illness or the use of drugs provides the full explanation. The reason is this. Most people who are ill or use drugs will have a half dozen signs of it show up in the writing. The handwriting of these two entities reveal a very powerful vitality, intelligence, clear thinking and strength, except for this one characteristic. This tells us that both of these individuals exercised the power of tremendous will to divorce themselves from their physical maladies to live life as if they were healthy, vital personalities.

This leads me to draw an unorthodox analysis of the gaps for both entities. I think the gaps would be there for both of them with or without ill health or drug use. While ill health or drug use may make the gaps more pronounced I think the cause is related more to a virtue than a vice.

I believe that both of them contemplated the abstract/spiritual world in his own way and periodically divorced themselves from orthodox thinking and reality as wee know it in the search for answers. The gaps thus show a disconnect, but an intelligent disconnect that added to their creativity.

Whatever the case, such gaps are not at all common among the super intelligent and are rare in this writing combination. Take a look. The first gap in the word “ask” is particularly synchronous.

Examples of Gaps
JFK ………………. HBP

 

CONSISTENCY IN THE LOWER ZONE
One thing that amateur forgerers do not realize is that the handwriting expert will detect him by too much consistency. When people write they do not sign their names exactly the same each time. Neither do they cross their T’s or dot their I’s in exactly the same place. All of us vary our handwriting as we vary our moods. One thing we look for in finding a handwriting match is a similar amount of variance between any two scripts.

There is an amazing amount of consistency in both small and large gaps in the handwriting of Kennedy and Blavatsky, but how about other factors?

Let us now examine the lower zone of the two handwritings. In this area there is usually some variance, but not like that expressed by Kennedy and Blavatsky. Note that within the variety of the strokes still exists a hauntingly close correspondence.

Again, note the first one which is vary rare ­ consists of two strokes. Maybe one out of a 1000 handwritings would have this oddity.

Lower Zone
JFK ………………. HBP

THE T-CROSS
Another interesting trait revealed is the T cross. The layman may think that there could be only a couple variables in this, but they are mistaken. There are hundreds of ways to cross a T.

Among them are:

(1) The location of the cross on the stem varying from low to above the stem.
(2) Does the cross ascend, descend or go straight from left to right?
(3) Is the pressure heavy or light?
(4) Is it long or short?
(5) Does it create an arc?
(6) Is the arc convex or concave?
(7) Does the stroke increase of decrease on strength?
(8) Does it go to the left or right of the stem?

Considering the number of variables the chances are very high against the fact that we would have two handwritings matching up like these two.

THE T-CROSS
JFK ………………. HBP

THE BOLD STROKE
An ending stroke that boldly extends shows courage or gutsiness. Again, this is revealed in both scripts.

JFK ………….. HBP

 

THE WAVE
Waves in writing show charm. We know that JFK certainly had this, but so did H. P. Blavatsky. Too bad we do not have her on film so we could have witnessed her personality.

JFK ………….. HBP

 

HEAVY DOTS
Both JFK and H. P. B had the odd habit of making extra heavy i-dots or periods every so often and then making dots with regular pressure the rest of the time. Blavatsky used a fountain pen so her strokes are not as thick as JFK’s for that reason.

JFK ………….. HBP

MORE ODD DOTS
Note that in the two signatures below they both placed two dots under their names. This is another oddity showing up in both writings. In the 1963 signature Kennedy was under stress. The 1961 signature shows him at his best. From an analyst’s point of view this is a very beautiful signature.

UNDERLINING
Both individuals underlined items as they wrote.

JFK ………….. HBP

 

 

CONCLUSION

I could spend a lot of time going into small details but here are a number of other important similarities.
(1) The speed of the writing is very similar. They both have a quickness that is shared by less than 1% of the population. The overall intelligence in both handwritings from my analysis is over one out of a million.
(2) The simplification of the writing is very close, with JFK using the fewer strokes ­ another sign of him being a little ahead in evolution.
(3) Perception revealed by the points on m’s, n’s are similar. The similarity is closer if we use JFK’s earlier handwriting.
(4) Both stretch their words out to a similar degree showing them both to be extroverts.
(5) All three zones of the handwriting are similar. We already illustrated the lower zone as with the Y’s, F’s etc. In addition to this the middle and upper part of the writing is very similar.
(6) JFK’s intelligence is a little higher than HPB. This would be true if he was H. P. Blavatsky in a later life.

Is anything in the writing different?

Yes, of course. Just as there are differences in Kennedy’s two samples spanning decades even so will there always be differences in the personality and the handwriting in different lifetimes.

Even so, the differences are less pronounced than expected giving us an excellent case proving reincarnation.

The two most obvious differences are:

(1) The space between the lines of the first two samples. H. P. Blavatsky’s is quite a bit closer together. But then note that the earlier sample from JFK (closer to the HBP lifetime) has his lines with less space between them. This tells us that this characteristic was an evolving trait during the JFK lifetime ­ probably a result from his rising fame which caused him to desire more “space.”
(2) H. P. Blavatsky’s ending stroke on her D’s had an upward flare that was missing in Kennedy’s writing. This is explained by the fact that many handwritings from the 1800’s had this characteristic. This trend became rare in the next generation. As we progress from life to life we often adopt the strokes that are popular. For instance, during the Hippie era many were dotting their eyes with happy faces. Few would consider doing this today.

Overall, the similarities are amazing and from this analysts’ point of view we have here a proof of identity comparable to fingerprints.

Jan 6, 2004

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Past Life Regression, Part 1

Texas Gathering, Part Eleven
Past Life Regression, Part 1

Assaf begins the session by singing the Beatles’ song, “I Will”.

JJ: There’s no such thing as a bad Beatle’s song, is there? I always liked that one. I was looking at my watch. I think it’s probably a good time to do the regression part of our Gathering. Is ever body ready to go back into the past? How about the future? Would you like to discover a future life? Your soul actually has your future lives projected.

Speaking of that, I’ve been contemplating somewhat about time. We hear a lot of teaching about how there is an eternal now and everything is happening at once. I don’t think it’s quite happening that way. Things do happen in sequential periods of time but the eternal now is not where everything is happening at once, so to speak; instead there is a place that is beyond time. When you die and go into the higher worlds, time is not measured the way it is here. But when you’re reborn, time has actually passed so it’s not like everything is happening at once. When we go to the higher worlds we go to places where time isn’t measured the way it is here. Yet time is still passing here even when we’re in the higher worlds. When we come back down to the lower worlds time has passed. It’s a popular teaching to teach that everything is happening at once. I don’t believe that’s exactly the way it’s transpiring. It’s just the fact that time is not measured in the higher worlds. It’s like you’re in a state of consciousness where there is no time. So you go out of time then back into time rather than into a place where everything is happening at one time. Yet there is also a way to step back and look at the canvas of eternity where we can see the past and the future unfolding yet these are like projections instead of the actual unfoldment. We come down here on the earth and here upon the earth we go through the actual unfoldment of time.

So we’re going to take some of you back into time. Usually when I’ve done these regressions the majority of the people can go back. Some people go back much more easily than others. Some go back and replay it just like they were really there. Others go back and get some memory and others just get impressions. You have all kinds of different experiences. Those who go back and relive the past completely with 100% recall are always very interesting cases, especially if they had an interesting past life.

It’s funny when I was teaching about past life and doing past life regressions was how I first met my wife. She came to a past life regression I did then came later to the handwriting courses I was teaching. At that time, shortly after I became fairly well known for doing past life regressions in the area a local TV station said they were doing a series on new age things. It turned out that they were actually attempting to make us all look very bad. So, they did a series on us and I took a person back in a past life regression for the TV crew. She went back to the days of Jesus which was very interesting. I’ve only taken two people back to the days of Jesus that sounded credible. A lot of people think they lived in the days of Jesus but when you look at it statistically only a few of us probably did but yet somebody had to. I’ve had a couple people go back and give some interesting accounts. Maybe one of you were back there. Who knows?

It’s also possible if you contact the soul 100% that you can draw back memories that aren’t even your own or actual true memories. That sometimes happens. Sometimes people will pick up memories, especially in the astral zone. If we pick something up from there you never know what you’ll come up with. It could be something true but it might not even be related to you 100%. But if you go back to one of your true past lives you will identify with it 100% and you will know if you hit a past life of yourself. Is everybody ready?

Everybody relax. Close your eyes. We’re going to use a guided meditation. I like using this better than hypnosis because we want you to be in full control of yourself and always be able to exercise your full free will.

Visualize yourself walking through a forest. You’re walking on a path through a wooded area. It’s a nice pleasant area. Birds are singing. You see little animals along the path and running through the forest. They’re friendly little animals. You feel very pleasant. It’s a pleasant experience. It’s just the right temperature, very slight wind. You’re walking along this path. It’s a very pleasant walk. You feel like you don’t have a care in the world. There’s nothing to worry about. There’s just you and nature and a nice day. The sun is overhead. Sunlight filters through the trees. It’s very pleasant. You’re walking along. You continue walking along this path and you come to a place where the forest ends. There is a mist and you feel like you want to walk into this mist. Your past is within this mist. Your past is there and you want to discover it. You proceed. You walk into this mist and the forest and the little animals and all the things behind you disappear. There is nothing here now except mist. You walk ahead. You’re not afraid. You’re comfortable and you proceed.

You see a blue circle of light, a small circle about the size of a silver dollar to you right. It’s like a marker of some kind. You walk past this then another one appears in front of you. As you keep walking you see another blue marker ahead of you. You take a couple more steps and you see another. Somehow you know that when you pass ten more markers you will be back in your past. Each one is taking you back, back into a past experience. We’re going to count the next ten markers. Proceed ahead. You’re walking past the first one. As you walk past the first one the mist gets a little lighter. Somehow you know that when you get to the tenth the mist will be completely gone and you will be back into your past.

You’re walking past the second one. The mist clears just a little bit more. You’re walking past the third one and it begins to lift a little bit more. You’re walking past the fourth. The mist clears a bit more. You’re walking past the fifth. It’s beginning to get a little bit lighter. You see a little bit in the background. You’re walking past the sixth one. It’s lighter still. You’re getting impressions about who you were. You’re going back with you feelings, your thoughts, you beliefs. You will feel what you felt then. You will hear what you heard then. You’re walking past the seventh. You hear a name. Focus on this name. The meaning or the image behind this name is coming to you. You’re walking past the eighth. This name is becoming clearer.

Say the name to yourself. Don’t say it audibly but say it to yourself over and over. As you say it you’re going back to when this name had meaning to you. Say the name over and over to yourself. You’re past the eighth and now you’re passing the ninth. Say the name over and over. As you say the name to yourself over and over the mist is lifting. It’s lifting more. Things are becoming clearer. You’re seeing what you saw then. You pass the ninth. Now you have one more marker to pass and the mist will be clear. It will be cleared away. You’re passing the tenth.

Now you’re back. You’re back into a life that you lived sometime ago. You can see what you saw then. You know what the name means. Think about this life. The first thing in this life you’re thinking about is what this name means. Now another name is coming to your mind. Say this name over and over to yourself. As you say this name over and over to yourself, you’ll begin to know all about this person; who this person is, whether it’s you or a friend and what this person meant to you. Now a word comes to your mind, a word related to this lifetime. Say this word over and over in your mind and the meaning of this word will pull you into a memory. Everything is becoming clearer. It’s becoming clear to you who you are.

I’m going to count to three and on the count of three you’ll be back in this previous lifetime. You’ll know who you are and the meaning of this lifetime will be clear to you. One, two, three. You know who you are. You know the lesson that you came to this lifetime to learn and you know what you learned and experienced. You know you are seeing people who were important to you. You see someone you loved. Someone else perhaps that you didn’t love. You understood what you did for a living. You understood what you believed in. Think about what you believed in; what you were taught. Did you do what you were taught? Think about that. It’s becoming clearer to you. Who are your parents? What did they teach you? What relationship did you have with them? Think about all these things that you learned in this lifetime.

Now I’m going to count to three and you’ll go back to a lifetime before this. I’m going to count to three and you’re going farther back. One, two, three. You know who you are. You’re thinking about a particular time. What is happening to you at this time? It’s an important time in your life. You’re thinking about what is happening and what you’re learning from this. It’s coming to you. You’re name is coming to you. I’m going to count to three and the name is coming to your mind. One, two, three. The name is coming to your mind. You know who you are. You’re going back to some of the early memories in this lifetime. You’re going to watch your life unfold, almost like you’re watching a movie. You see the beginning then you see near the end. You see everything in between. Pick a time that was important in this lifetime and look at it and experience it. Think of the impressions that are coming to you. Think of how you feel. Think of who you knew, who you loved and who you did not love. Who treated you well? Who did not treat you well?

Now spend a minute or two contemplating this lifetime. You can look at any part of this lifetime that you want, from the beginning to the end. Look over and relive any part of the life that you want. Think about it for a minute and let the feelings and thoughts come to you.

Very good. Now we’re going to move back into the present. When we move into the present you’re going to take all the memories with you so that you’ll be able to recall everything that you’ve seen and felt. I’m going to count to three and we’re going to all move into the present. One, moving into the present; two, you’re almost there; three, you’re in the present.

Who had some interesting experiences? Marylin?

Marylin: I don’t know where I went but I was beneath water and I was swimming. I don’t know when it was. Then you sent us back a second time and at the point where you said the scene was getting clearer I saw buildings all over the place. I saw figures in there but I was always high up over it. Then the third time I wasn’t on Earth. I don’t know where I was but I was a long way away.

JJ: Another planet or something?

Marylin: I don’t know; another dimension? I don’t know. It was somewhere else. I wasn’t alone. That’s something!

JJ: Have you done that before?

Marylin: No, not this way I hadn’t. I rehearsed in my head a long time ago. I was walking down the forest path. A head of me was an Indian warrior on a beautiful horse and I was going toward him. I wanted to but I didn’t want to. At that particular time I was in a roomful of smokers and they wanted me to open my eyes but my eyes burned then I didn’t go any deeper so I didn’t find out any more. When you said the path in the forest it took me right back.

JJ: Anyone else?

Audience: I had a lot of water too. When I first went back it was like a crossing; crossing water. Then it was like leaving Earth and watching water come up from very high and watching the water come up. Then I was on another planet or somewhere. The rock formations were like this and they were really kind of pointy. I could see the color of them. It was a brownish, purplish, tanish, and I saw lots and lots of them but they were like this. That’s it.

JJ: Anybody else?

Audience: I had several experiences but the one that’s still lingering with me is, Duway(?) was my name. It’s not spelled the way that we would spell it. I think I’m a bounty hunter and I went after an alien race with light skin, kind of bumpy. When the mouth would open to scream they had really jagged teeth. I went . . . that’s the only thing I could think of, that I was a bounty hunter of some kind. I don’t know what I looked like but my name was Duway.

JJ: Interesting. That must have been on a galaxy far away huh?

Audience: I know I’ve been on other planets and I’ve been a dolphin before. This one is still sticking with me because I don’t like to think I’m a bounty hunter.

JJ: Who’s next?

Audience: I’m not sure what lesson I was supposed to learn but in the second one I was around water. I was on a ship. I was married. I don’t remember if I had kids or not but it seemed like I was immigrating. This sounds boring compared to the other ones. I remember fishing boats and the sound of seagulls and the smell of the ocean.

Audience: I didn’t get very much but the impression I got was that I was also on a boat in a large body of water. The first word that came to me, going back, was that I was a lady. I didn’t get a name but I felt like I was a lady in these big fancy dresses dancing on a boat. That’s it.

JJ: Robin has something.

Robin: I’ve only tried this once before and it didn’t work so I’m not sure. These are just impressions that I got. When we went back the first time my name was Josephine and I was a Quaker woman. My husband was Allen. I had at least a son. A daughter kept fading in and out so I’m not sure. The word that came was ‘harsh’. I tried to figure out what that meant. I don’t know if it referred to the harshness of life or the teachings of that religion. I don’t really know anything about Quakers but maybe if their idea of God is a harsh God. I don’t know but that was the word that came. Then when I went back again my name was Antoine. I was immediately aware that I was Antoine and there was a bright light over here. I realized that I was on the beach and that was the sun rising. I was somehow connected with the ocean. I think I was working on a ship or something and the cook was my friend. That was it.

Audience: I wonder why so many so the ocean and ships.

JJ: That’s kind of unusual that a lot of people are seeing that.

Audience: I saw that too but I can’t agree with it in my mind.

JJ: To verify we’d have to do them individually and test them out. Some people go back into real past lives and others go back into an illusionary past life and others will go back and identify with someone they actually knew in a past life. They may think they’re Napoleon but really they were in Napoleon’s army. Maybe they admired Napoleon and wished they were him.

Audience: In mine I kept getting William Wallace or Sir William Wallace and Bobert DeBruce. I kept seeing buildings that look like buildings in England. They’re there now but they were old buildings. I was seeing knights fighting and kept wondering why I kept getting William Wallace and Robert DeBruce. I kept trying to see if I was these people or if I knew these people. It felt like legend or feeling of inspiration. I might’ve been in the army. There was a feeling of inspiration about those two people.

JJ: It’s quite possible you weren’t them but were close to them. That will often happen.

Audience: I got ‘chivalry’. The word chivalry was real important to me.

Audience: I got a flash of the crusades too but it was just a flash then it went on to the fishing thing.

Audience: Now that you’ve explained that I’m willing to share. It’s just really hard for me to fathom. The name that came when you said it the first time was “Caesar”. I got a lot of images of what he looked like but I don’t know if I was him or not. I couldn’t tell. He was in Rome and there was a lot of stuff going on.

JJ: So there’s a good chance you maybe were close to Caesar and that happened. That’s why so many people think they were somebody famous in a past life. Maybe they admired the famous person when they were there in a past life. Of course, somebody had to be those famous people but everybody can’t be.

Audience: The first time I went back my name was also Josephine but I was in an area with a man whose name was Benjamin. The word that came to me was love. We were standing outside a cottage of some sort then that left. Then when we went back farther I found myself in nun’s robes and I was in a chapel and I was praying.

JJ: Did it seem like you were really there?

Audience: Oh yes, I was there. I was talking with God. I had a very emotional experience with it because the question-I don’t know how these two work together but-the thought was I had such a close communion with God in that lifetime and that it was in a safe environment. In this lifetime I’m finding it very hard to live that knowing that I have in my heart in the outer world with people. It was so much easier to do it in a community of people that felt the same way I did. This time it’s different.

JJ: Is that when you were a nun?

Audience: Yes

JJ: Can you see why we have to forget?

Audience: This is the first time I’ve ever been able to go back. I’ve never been receptive to regression before. People can’t get me past the barrier. I don’t know why I couldn’t do it before. Maybe I didn’t think it was any of their business. I trust this time. Thank you.

JJ: Anybody else want to share anything? Cindy?

Cindy: I just wanted to say it’s kind of eerie because in my second time that I went into I realized that I was a male. I was fishing and could very clearly see the river. My name was Benjamin.

JJ: How clearly did you go back?

Cindy: That was very clear. It was a very peaceful lifetime which was unusual.

JJ: Anyone else? Don’t be shy.

Audience: I’ve done a lot of past life regressions. I’ve also gathered a lot of people into them. I’ve had more spontaneous past life regressions. This is pretty strange being guided by someone. When I came out from the mist it was purple. It was really strange. It was a very, very, very deep purple. In the first life I was a young man. In fact, in both those lifetimes I was a male. I was a young man, 20ish, in a village. It was in a market place. There were a lot of stone walls and stalls and that sort of thing. The name I got before I went into that lifetime was Jaalo. That’s what came. I never heard that name before. I don’t even know if that’s a name. That’s the name I got.

JJ: That’s a good sign you got something totally unheard of.

Audience: The word I got was ‘mishappen’. I said it to myself two or three times because I thought maybe I didn’t understand myself. I got it that I needed to stand on my principles. That’s what I had to learn in that lifetime.

JJ: Had you been back to this lifetime before?

Audience: No.

JJ: Have you been regressed before?

Audience: Lots of times. Most of them were spontaneous though.

JJ: You mean just out of the blue you’d go back like a flashback or something?

Audience: I’ll experience something or be somewhere and all of a sudden there it is.

JJ: You mean without any guiding at all? You just go back?

Audience: Right.

JJ: That’s a sign of an advanced soul.

Audience: It was pretty wild, the first few I had. Then the second life I went to my name was Joseph. It was 1502. You asked for a time or a date or something and that’s what came. I’m not sure if it was before Christ or after but 1502 was what I got. I was a male. I had two young daughters and I could just see them coming towards me. I was a boot maker. The daughters were real important. They were coming towards me. Then the very next thing when I tried to get a hold of why I was looking at this I found myself out on a hill communicating with God. It was like a lot of clouds and light rays. You know how the light rays come through the clouds. Then you were asking us to come back.

JJ: Interesting. Anybody else?

Audience: I only remembered one but I typically don’t remember very often. The scenes that came to mind were that my name was Samuel and it was in pre-revolutionary war times but very close. I had two scenes. One was outside of Boston in fields watching British regulars going by then another scene where I was walking in a cobblestone village. I didn’t get much more than that but there is a sense of something to do with Sam Adams. I don’t think I was Sam Adams but my name was Samuel. There was a sense of connection. What just occurred to me now, not then, but maybe this came to me now because I’m in a wounded state and there’s a sense that I may have been wounded at that time.

Audience: The first time you asked for a name I came up with Joshua. I was a boy. You asked for the mother’s name and it was Elizabeth. I immediately flipped into adulthood as a priest in a desert scene surrounded with children. Other than that that was all I could basically see and when you went to the second time I got absolutely nothing except the words ‘Hosanna’ and ‘Glory Be to God’. Everything was blank. There was nothing except those words.

Audience: There wasn’t any significant thing. Just that I still hear the ocean in my ears. There was some point of boat use with the sound of the ocean from a distance. When you mentioned a name one name came to mind, Pamela. It was darkness and I don’t remember anything but still I have this feeling in my ears and sound of the ocean.

JJ: A lot of people got water. That’s interesting. We didn’t mention water in the regression.

Audience: I didn’t regress and I didn’t see any past lives and I didn’t hear any names. But when you asked I kept going back trying to restart it so maybe I could run back and try to do it. When you said to think of a word, the word was ‘surrender’. But I didn’t get any pictures.

JJ: You might want to do with that is to repeat that word over and over and see where that takes you. That’s probably a key to something important in your past. It could be positive or it could be negative. Maybe you had to surrender against your will or maybe you surrendered to something according to your will to something in the past. If you pick up a word like that when you’re meditating, that word can sometimes trigger a past life memory. Anybody else have anything to share before we move on?

Audience: I had more of a sense of well-I went back and Rebecca was my name. I didn’t get a real clear thing but I had a feeling that I starved to death. There were two kids with me. I felt more than I saw. Is that normal?

JJ: Well, you go back several ways. Some people just go back by feeling and they feel what they felt back then but they don’t see anything or hear anything. Others will hear things but not really feel anything and others will see things but not really hear or feel things. Some will hear, see, feel, all the senses will go back.

We’re going to pick on one or two of you. Jeanine seems to be pretty sensitive. Why don’t you come over here and sit in this chair. Do you mind? We’ll take one individual back because with a group we get more generality so we’ll try to get a little more specific with an individual.

Delivered May 25, 2002 at the Gathering in Wimberly Texas.

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Elijah and Reincarnation

Elijah and Reincarnation

Question from LDS reader: Why do you think that Mal 4:5-6 refers to Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist?

This is a pretty cut and dried issue which was presented starkly in black and white by Jesus, but let me cover it again.

(1) Mal. 4:5-6 and Mal 3:1 are both referring to the same individual which was to be fulfilled by John the Baptist (Elijah in a past life).

In speaking of Mal 3:1 Jesus spoke of John the Baptist saying:

“But what went ye. out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. FOR THIS IS HE OF WHOM IT IS WRITTEN, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee…” Matt 11:9-10.

Thus there is no argument that John the Baptist is the one spoken of to fulfill this prophesy.

Now concerning a few verses later (Mal. 4:5-6) the apostles asked Jesus:

“His disciples asked him saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias (Elijah) must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come and restore all things. (This refers to a future coming) But I say unto you, that Elias is COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.” Matt 17:10-13.

Keep in mind that Elias is Greek for Elijah and all modern Bibles Translate it as Elijah to avoid confusion.

Here both Jesus and the Apostles identified the one who would precede the coming of the Messiah in Malachi as Elijah and “the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist” when talking about its fulfillment.

But note that there would be two appearances. One as Elijah reincarnated through John the Baptist 2000 years ago and another coming to restore all things. Since the messenger in Mal 3:1 is positively identified as Elijah come again then the person named as Elijah in Mal 4:5-6 has to be one and the same person.

Even the Mormon Church (and most Bible scholars) teach that the person in both these scriptures are the same person.

The hearts of the children seeking after their fathers is just one of the meanings of this verse. Let me quote it:

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord; and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” Malachi 4:5-6

Joseph gave a different twist on this than is usually taught in the church:

“This is the spirit of Elijah, that we redeem our dead, and connect ourselves with our fathers which are in heaven… We cannot be perfect without our fathers. WE MUST HAVE REVELATION FROM THEM.” Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith Page 338.

This linking up with the dead is to have the effect of giving us revelation. Indeed, many of those who have passed on will at times play the roll of a guardian angel and speak to us in still moments.

As the reader mentioned the angel Moroni quoted this verse differently to Joseph Smith:

“Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he shall plant in the hearts of the children THE PROMISES MADE TO THE FATHERS, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so THE WHOLE EARTH WOULD BE UTTERLY WASTED AT HIS COMING.” D&C 2:1-3.

And what are the promises made to the Fathers (the prophets)? There are many. In speaking of this verse Joseph Smith said that the most consistent promise made to the fathers was the building of Zion and the gathering of Israel (lights).

Note that an often overlooked part of the verse is that the heart of the Fathers will turn to the children? What does this mean?

We are the fathers of the children of the future and if we do not turn our hearts to them and prepare for them a world free from nuclear weapons, pollution, war and starvation, then indeed the earth will be smitten with a curse.

“Curse here comes from the Hebrew CHEREM which implies “utter destruction” or “extermination,” and this is a real possibility if we do not do our part in leaving our children to come an earth in which they can live in peace and abundance.

Elijah either as a reincarnated messenger or one working from the higher realms is predicted to help with our deliverance.

During the transfiguration we are told that both Moses and Elias (Elijah) appeared to Jesus, but the Inspired Version adds something rather startling for Mormon eyes. It says:

“And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses, OR IN OTHER WORDS, JOHN THE BAPTIST AND MOSES; and they were talking with Jesus.” Mark 9:3

You can’t get amore positive I.D. than that. “in other words” Elijah and John the Baptist were one and the same.

Comment: you say that “Never in history has God sent a resurrected being to accomplish what can be done by mortal men.” But there have been numerous instances where ancient prophets have appeared and assisted various servants.

Other worldly messengers have only appeared briefly, often to one person and have never done the work of mortals, rubbing shoulders with the general populace. If Joseph Smith or any other past being were to return and work with humanity it would be as one of us, not as some resurrected glorified being.

Question: Can translated beings reincarnate?

Many translated beings return to mortality.

“Wherefore, all things are theirs, whether life or death.” D&C 76:59

Question: “If murder is an “unforgivable sin,” then how could David, who committed murder, reincarnate as another prophet as some believe?

The scriptures say that murder is not forgiven “in this world.” Fortunately there are next worlds. In the New Testament “world” comes from AEON which means “an age.” If a person commits murder he will not be forgiven while he lives, but must give his life or save lives to pay the debt which brings forgiveness in a future life, world or age.

Some of the greatest leaders and teachers of humanity have had some of the largest debts to pay off.

Copyright by J J Dewey

Dec 6, 2001

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