Month: April 2021

Molecular Power

A reader pointed out that Joseph Smith established the priesthood of the Mormon church with the following numbers in the various quorums:

12 Deacons, 24 Teachers, 48 Priests, 96 Elders, 70 Seventies, 7 Presidents of Seventies, 12 Apostles, 3 Presidents, 1 Patriarch, etc.

The natural question is: Were these potential molecules?

The answer is yes. They are all possibilities. The number twelve and any multiple thereof has molecular potential as well as the numbers seven and three.

Was there a possible link to make the connection with the Hierarchy?

Yes. If Joseph Smith is to be believed he received revelation and instruction from Christ who is a definite link.

Were molecules created then?

The answer is that they were partially successful for a time.

Let me elaborate.

To create a successful molecule one must start with a correct molecular number in the group. Secondly, each of the members must have soul contact and a degree of group consciousness.

Thirdly, the molecules must be linked up to the Christ either directly or through a master.

Let us assume that Joseph had a link of some type with the Christ. Were molecules then created?

There is substantial evidence that a significant amount of spiritual power flowed through some of the members of the early groups. The apostles and some other members performed some impressive miracles and even raised the dead. Ignored by church history is the fact that miracles were also performed by some females in the early church.

Unfortunately, no really stable molecule was formed for group soul contact came and went somewhat randomly. This caused spiritual power to be available at times and missing at other times.

The problem with the attempted creation of a church with many molecular numbers is that rarely was it the case that the various quorums could maintain group soul contact. There were generally a couple souls in each potential molecule who were not in harmony with the group and the soul.

There was one occasion, however, where soul resistance was dropped by the various groups and a great spiritual manifestation occurred. This was at the dedication of the Kirtland temple in Ohio.

On March 27, 1836 at the dedication of the Kirtland temple we find a similar occurrence: “Brother George A. Smith arose and began to prophesy, when a noise was heard like the sound of a rushing mighty wind, which filled the temple, and all the congregation simultaneously arose, being moved upon by an invisible power; many began to speak in tongues and prophesy; others saw glorious visions; and I beheld the temple was filled with angels, which fact I declared to the congregation. The people of the neighborhood came running together (hearing an unusual sound within, and SEEING A BRIGHT LIGHT LIKE A PILLAR OF FIRE RESTING UPON THE TEMPLE), and were astonished at what was taking place.” DHC 2:428 (Parentheses in the original)

Notice here that the fire was so real that the neighbors who were non members also saw it and were “astonished”. We have another interesting account of this event: “In the morning Father Smith prayed for a Pentecost, in the opening of the meeting. That day the power of God rested mightily upon the saints. There was poured out upon us abundantly the spirit of revelation, prophesying and tongues. The Holy Ghost filled the house; and along in the afternoon a noise was heard. It was the sound of a mighty rushing wind. But at first the congregation was startled, not knowing what it was. TO MANY IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THE ROOF WAS ALL IN FLAMES. Father Smith exclaimed, ‘Is the house on fire!”’ WOMEN OF MORMONDOM Pg 208

We are also told that “The angels of the Lord appeared unto them and cloven tongues of FIRE sat upon many of them and they prophesied and spoke in tongues.” ERASTUS SNOW SKETCHBOOK Page 1.

In addition Eliza R, Snow gives this account: “There we had the gift of prophecy – the gift of tongues – visions and marvelous dreams were related – the singing of heavenly choirs was heard, and wonderful manifestations of the Elders, were witnessed. The sick were healed – the deaf made to hear – the blind to see and the lame to walk, in very many instances. It was plainly manifest that a sacred and divine influence – a spiritual atmosphere pervaded that holy edifice. Yes, indeed, for the Son of God, in His glory, had honored it with His royal presence… I will relate one more remarkable circumstance which transpired in that interesting season – a circumstance which was not confined to either section of the Temple, but was witnessed by the many who were congregated on that day; and certainly all now living who were present on that occasion will remember. It is a testimony of answer to prayer that never can be forgotten . Father Smith presided over the meeting in the northwest section of the Temple, and after the meeting was opened by singing, he was mouth in prayer, and in course of supplication he very earnestly prayed that the Spirit of God might be poured out as on the day of Pentecost-that it might come ‘as a rushing mighty wind.’ Some time after, in the midst of the exercises of the forenoon it did come; and whether Father Smith had forgotten what he prayed for, or whether in the fervency of his heart, when praying he didnot realize what he prayed for, I never ascertained; but when the sound came and filled the house with an expressipn of great astonishment he raised his eyest exclaiming, ‘What! Is the house on fire?’ But presently he comprehended the cause of his alarm, and was filled with unspeakable joy.” (Eliza R. Snow, Biography and Family Record of Lorenzo Snow, pi 11,14)

This has never again been duplicated in the church. What was the reason that these miraculous events happened at this point in time?

The reason was that for a small moment a fairly large group contacted the soul and all resistance to spiritual energy melted away allowing the flow to proceed. One of the interesting ingredients that allowed this to happen (especially since we are talking about Mormons) is that the group drank a significant amount a wine before the manifestations occurred. Because some of the members were a little tipsy this caused some of the enemies of the church to believe the supernatural occurrences were merely imagined by a drunkened crowd.

We have physical evidence, however, that this is not the case for the local townspeople, many of whom were enemies of the church saw the pillar of fire upon the temple. In addition to this the local newspaper reported the temple had burned down because of these reports. Many were surprised to later find the temple intact with no fire damage.

The wine assisted because it lowered the resistance of the people and made them more accepting to whatever was about to occur.

While it is true that the lowering of resistance by alcohol can also produce negative results it is also true that there is a positive aspect to this release of resistance and in moderation can assist a group to merge into the group soul. This is one of the reasons Jesus drank wine with his disiples.

The problem with that time period is that the spiritual flow seemed to manifest periodically, but not consistently. None of the potential molecules were securely grounded.

Then after the death of Joseph the link was no longer available. This is evidenced by the fact that there were virtually no spiritual manifestations at the dedication of the Nauvoo temple. The membership was very disappointed.

The most effective molecule in recorded history was the apostles of Jesus. His approach in the creation of a molecule was more logical for he concentrated in stabilizing a single molecule before attempting much expansion. This produced good and bad results. The good was that there was great spiritual flow in the small group, but the bad is that they were killed off and not replaced.

Joseph had a different problem in that he had a larger and more diverse group that was not killed off, but continued in organization. The trouble was that a solid anchor of spiritual flow was not established so the link was severed and the powerful spiritual flow ceased to be available.

The reader mentioned that he had attended modern LDS meetings where the various quorums were separated and he felt a flow of power. Does this mean they are molecular?

No.

There are a number of organizations that use molecular numbers in their various groups who do not have soul contact or a molecular link. Even so, there can be a significant flow of merged heart and solar plexus energy within the group causing a sharing of energy. This can be impressive to participants, but the experience is far removed from the potential spiritual power that can be manifested through a truly molecular organization.

The key to success in this age is to take whatever time it takes and create a successful molecular foundation so spiritual power will be anchored and then bring in additional human molecules so we will have the quantity as well as quality to insure that this time the link between humanity and the kingdom of god will remain for the age.

“Though I am Unborn, the Soul that passes not away, though I am the Lord of Beings, yet as Lord over My nature I become manifest, through the magical power of the Soul.” Gita IV.6.

Dec 3, 2003

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Molecular Links

Question: Was the angel who appeared to Christ in the garden connected to an ashram?

JJ: It was the Christ who was linked to the angel through the Molecular Order and then Jesus to the Christ. Jesus became associated with the molecular order in that particular lifetime. To simplify I often use the name Jesus when referring to the one mission of the two entities.

There are various grades of ashrams. Some are molecular and some are not. The Christ at that time was a member of one that was molecular. His ashram at that time was of a different constitution than it is today, but the principle that governs it remains the same.

Question: Are you able to elaborate on this? What determines whether an ashram is molecular?

JJ: At this point the only ashrams that are molecular are those occupied by the Masters and higher. Those composed of inhabitants of the fourth kingdom are not, even though they may be initiated by a molecular member. The extension of the Molecular Order to the human kingdom will be a means of linking heaven and earth and assist in the externalization of the Hierarchy.

The function and purpose of the molecular order is covered quite extensively in the book. In a nutshell the function of the molecular order is to extend the benefits and powers of the higher kingdoms to the lower – the seventh (and sixth assisting) to the fifth and the seventh and fifth to the fourth.

Question: And in that case, I guess you are saying that the number of beings in some ashrams can only be 24 (12 pairs)? (I assume that would have to be a sub-ashram with a particular function because the number’s just don’t stack up otherwise?)

JJ: Just as atomic molecules come in different numbers so can human molecules. Jesus and the Christ established one with twelve units and the plan is to duplicate this.

Eventually we will have spiritual scientists dedicated to the study of various human molecular arrangements and tabulate the characteristics created just as scientists now study atomic molecules. This may be some distance in the future, however.

Question: How are some angels in a molecule and others aren’t?

JJ: Some angels are disembodied spirits and most of these are servants of humanity not yet linked. Others are of the deva kingdom with their own particular order of a different type. Those angels who are masters and higher are molecular – such as Gabriel who appeared to Mary

Question: Does being a member of a molecule denote that a certain degree of evolution has been achieved?

JJ: Right now the molecular order exists in the fifth kingdom and higher so technically one could say it was something to be achieved in the past because the status of a Master is something that must be achieved through great effort. However, in the future this order will be extended to the human kingdom where many who are not masters will participate. The main thing to be achieved for future human participants is solid soul contact and the ability to merge with a group with the good of the group in mind over the benefit of self.

Question: How does group consciousness compare with molecular consciousness?

JJ: There are various levels of group consciousness. A degree of group consciousness is presently achieved by groups in existence now, from business associations, to religious and fraternal ones to a football team.

When one is incorporated into the Molecular Order he is already at a fairly high level of group consciousness and cooperation. A certain amount of group consciousness is necessary, but perfection is not required. The link up brings more of an increase in spiritual flow than it does group consciousness, even though the energy does also stimulate consciousness. Overall the rising of consciousness is due more to individual effort.

An imperfect example would be the difference in a human when he enters his car. His consciousness has not changed that much but his power to move is increased.

A molecular member is linked up to a Hierarchical order and will sense an increase in spiritual power. How he uses this will differ according to his intelligence and point in evolution.

Question: Could you clarify the relationship of Jesus and the Christ to the Molecule?

JJ: Jesus was the link between the molecule of masters and the molecule which was created in the human kingdom. He received his greater spiritual powers from the molecule of the Christ and this was the one he was technically attached to. He was the female partner (as far as energy is concerned) to the Christ. If he had decided to become one of the twelve apostles then the invisible Christ would have been the thirteenth, or the point within the circle.

Every molecule has its initiator. The initiator is a member of the sponsoring molecule until the new molecule is completed. After completion he can stay in the originating molecule or join the new one as the twelfth member. Either way he will be the sender and link to the new molecule.

Because Jesus was the visible thirteenth person this established the basis for the strong authority that ruled the church during the Piscean age.

In the new age there will be no visible thirteenth person thus focusing attention on the invisible God that works within.

Christ and the masters are involved in some degree with numerous ashrams composed of mortals, or non masters. One has to become molecular to be a master and work with the Hierarchy

Question: Could you elaborate on the different functions of various molecules?

JJ: One important function of the first ones will to bring heaven and earth together, or the fifth and fourth kingdoms so there will be greater interplay.

Another function will be to set a governing example that will eventually be emulated by all the governments of the earth.

The power to receive higher impression will be enhanced.

There are many other qualities and functions of the molecules that are unknown to disciples and we will just have to take them in and put them to use as they are manifest.

Molecules composed of different numbers will have different qualities. The only one I have written much about is the model presented by Jesus composed of twelve units.

Groups of molecules will eventually create a higher correspondence to a cell which will have higher qualities still.

More knowledge will be given to us as needed, but for now I have given out enough to stimulate the imagination of seekers.

Question: So are you saying here that when you talk about molecules, you are not necessarily confining yourself to molecules of 12 pairs? Thus an ashramic molecule can be any size molecule.

JJ: There are different molecular combinations available but not any number will work. Just like carbon and oxygen atoms combing in certain angles and numbers can create a variety of molecules, but most combinations just do not work – even so with humans. Certain numbers and associations work, but the majority do not. In addition there must be a molecular link to the fifth kingdom for the bonding energy to flow.

Before the time of Christ a human could only join a molecule by becoming a Master. But in the future when molecules are established among humanity one will not have to make such a great achievement to participate in the order.

Question: So are you saying that the group consciousness that is a characteristic of a soul infused personality is a precursor to being a member of a molecule? So one cannot be a member of a molecule until one has developed a degree of group consciousness which explains why we don’t have them yet.

JJ: Correct. A certain degree of soul and/or group consciousness will be necessary for each member in order to create a working molecule. There are such people out there, but gathering twenty four of the first ones together requires a Herculean effort.

“In the wise use of knowledge comes increased capacity to receive the hidden wisdom.” DK, Initiation Human and Solar, Page 6

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Molecular Explanations

A reader wanted some clarification concerning how sex plays out in the Molecular Relationship.

JJ: The regular marriage or covenant relationship between two people may or may not be a part of a molecule. Physical sex is not an ingredient that makes the molecule, but those who have a committed relationship will of course pursue their normal intimacies.

Many of the male-female partners within the molecules will be “working relationships” as I explained in the book. These will be partnerships which have no romantic inclinations, but are paired for the purpose of balancing energies and sustaining group soul contact.

For instance, it will sometimes be the case that an applicant will want to be in a molecule, but have a spouse who has no interest in the work. If he or she has no interest in participating then obviously he or she can not join in the group work in reaching the zero point where the magical power of the soul is manifest. In this case the person would have a working partner to create the opposing polarity necessary for balance. This would, of course be non sexual to avoid interfering with the committed relationship which already exists.

In addition to this many single people who have not found their life’s partner will have a molecular working partner. Unless the couple have a romantic attraction and form a committed union sex should be no part of the relationship, just as sex us not a part of your day job when you work with a person of the opposite sex.

Sex is a natural function like eating and both molecular and non molecular people will do both, but neither will a special ingredient in the forming of molecules, save as side items of sustaining normal living conditions.

The intimate lives of those joining a molecule should not change.

Question: Was Jesus’ power to do miracles dependent on the molecule he created?

The power Jesus had to do miracles did not depend on the molecule he created that was under him, but it was related to the molecule which he was in which was on the other side of the veil. The angel who appeared to him in the garden was a member of his direct molecule. Without the appearance of this molecular partner Jesus would have died in the garden.

On the other hand, the power of the Apostles to duplicate the powers manifested by Jesus was dependent on their own molecular relationship.

Reader Comment: I always assumed that Jesus was able to do what he did because of his special relationship with the indwelling Christ.

JJ: There is of course the Christ principle within, but in the case of Jesus there was another entity who was the earthly representative of this principle, the one we all “the Christ.”

The Christ was the molecular link for Jesus. To create a molecule on the earth which is linked by an eternal chain of hierarchy, there first has to be a molecular link. This was created at the baptism when the Christ descended upon Jesus and dwelt in him.

The Christ was a member of a molecule, but Jesus was merely linked as were the apostles after the twelve were organized creating an exoteric molecule.

Question: Is there any scriptural or other evidence (eg DK) to show that it was because he was part of a molecule?

JJ: The molecular relationship is only hinted at in the Bible and writings of DK, but there are many references which supply evidence which I have cited in my book. The baptism of Jesus is a good one and also the fifteenth chapter of John.

Jesus said: “Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:4-6

The vine is the molecular link from which the life of the molecular relationship flows. Without this link “ye can do nothing,” and we are as severed vines which have no spiritual life.

Notice that Jesus says that those under him “abideth in me” yet he himself abides “in him” or his father who is his molecular link.

This all ties in with DK’s teachings of the group life being so essential to the fifth kingdom in nature.

Question: And how would this tie in with his membership of an ashram (or were they not as structured as they are now, post Christ?).

JJ: There are various grades of ashrams. Some are molecular and some are not. The Christ at that time was a member of one that was molecular. His ashram at that time was of a different constitution than it is today, but the principle that governs it remains the same.

Question: Further, if, for example, an angel appeared to one of us, would it mean that that angel and person in question were members of the same subjective molecule?

JJ: The word angel merely means “messenger.” Some messengers are molecular while others are not. The angel who appeared to Jesus (and the Christ) in the garden had a molecular association with the Christ and was this the logical one to ““strengthen him.”

Question: If so, then does that mean that eventually people will be members of more than one molecule eg subjective and objective molecules?

JJ: No. One is only a member of one molecule at a time. But while being a member of a molecule (as was the Christ) one can initiate another molecule of which you are the link (as was the Christ). In addition to this the molecules will be linked so there will be an overlap of cooperation.

If you go to page 48 In Initiation, Human and Solar and look at the diagram of the hierarchy you will see various lines that demonstrate the lines of force which manifest between various molecular members.

Now if you visualize the creation of numerous molecules and imagine the lines of force working between them, the lines would be similar, but not exact.

“It will be remembered that the first great outpouring from the Logos vivified universal substance and caused every atom of matter within the “ring-pass-not” of His system to vibrate in seven different measures of vibration. The second outpouring caused molecular combinations, thus forming the six subplanes below the atomic on each plane, and produced form.” DK Esoteric Psychology Vol 1

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Nauvoo Gathering, 2003, Part 23
The Science of Relationships

To accurately find your rising sign you have to have an astrology chart done. You have to know your time of birth within fifteen minutes or so. That’s one thing you do need your time of birth for. If you don’t find it, some astrologers can ask a series of questions and make an intelligent guess. It’s not 100% accurate. The trouble is with birth certificates is some birth certificates record the exact time and others don’t. Sometimes your parents will put it in your baby book. I was very careful about recording all my kids’ times of birth, but after I was divorced from my first wife she figured astrology was of the devil so she won’t even let me look at their baby books. I can’t do their charts. It’s is ironical since I was very careful about recording their exact times of birth. If you have it within 15 minutes, you can figure your rising sign fairly accurately.

Audience: Virgo?

JJ: The core principle of Virgo is service, a nurse. Tell us some things about Virgo, Cindy?

Cindy: analytical, earth time, service

JJ: Yeah, service is kind of a key note for Virgo. Would you say service is the main Key word? (JJ: receives confirmation of this from Cindy.) OK, let’s use service as the main Key word for Virgo. When Artie met me she got a revelation saying that she was supposed to nurture me and that’s a form of service. So perhaps that’s fulfilling her rising sign, to be a nurturer. Every once in a while, she says things that aren’t nurturing (laughter) and let’s me have it, you know, once in awhile. But she’s a pretty good nurturer overall.

Ren: I was born at 11:00 o’clock in the morning… Susan was born 11:00 o’clock at night. We were married on 11/11 My son died at 11:11…

JJ: Really? Matter of fact, there was a site on the internet devoted to the number 11:11. I saw that when I first got on the internet when I was on AOL ages ago. Whoever started it apparently thought it was a very mystical number: 11:11. People on that particular discussion group saw 11:11 everywhere. It was kind of interesting to read their posts. Anybody else know their rising sign?

Audience: Sagittarius.

JJ: Your rising sign is Sagittarius? OK

Audience: When you were talking about Saturn and for the first 28 years you’re supposed to know what your rising sign is…what is it you’re supposed to find out in the second 28 years?

JJ: That’s a good question. I’ll answer it in a minute. OK, Peter over here is Sagittarius, with sun sign Pisces. That explains your handwriting a lot, because Pisces are very intense emotionally. That’s interesting. Sagittarius is a fire sign, it’s the symbol of the archer, and the archer is symbolizing, shooting the arrow and stretching yourself, stretching your vision with the arrow as it shoots into the future, shoots in the horizon. What this means is that you are supposed to learn to really maximize yourself and your abilities to stretch yourself to the limit so-to-speak.

In other words, to take your talents, whatever they are, your soul will push you to go beyond what you think you can do. Have you ever experienced that in your life – felt an impulse from within to really keep trying harder all the time? Can you feel that? You can? That’s good that you can feel that. When you feel that, it’s good that you follow it. “I can do this better, I can do this more successfully.” You’ll feel that impulse – follow it and you’ll be very successful. Anybody else know their rising sign?

Audience: Cancer. Leo with rising Cancer.

JJ: you’re almost the opposite… water sign and

Lorraine: that’s my exact opposite

JJ: Leo’s a fire sign. That’s just the opposite as far as far as earth goes and often opposites attract so that’s probably why you two are kind of buddies because you’re opposite energy and balance each other out. Do you kind of feel that about each other? Yea? So you’re Leo with Cancer rising? OK, so Leo is really an outgoing energy but the Cancer rising is one of the most internal energies. So he’s a natural extrovert that is learning the benefits of looking within. As a kid you were probably a really rambunctious kid, but as you get older and older, you’re turning more within. Do you kind of sense that? That’s kind of interesting. Quite often it happens the other way around.

Audience: I feel comfortable in the bar, around people, but I don’t mind being at home either.

JJ: See, cancer is the symbol of the crab. He’ll be in his shell and he’ll reach his feelers out and he’ll pull back in and likes to stay in his shell. Home and family and security have all been things you’ve learned. It didn’t come natural to you, you had to learn to appreciate it, the security of hard work, the security of home and security of establishing your own space where you can feel like you’re not affected by everything that’s going on out there. Does that make sense to you, can you identify with that?

Audience: How about Leo Moon? What does that mean?

JJ: The moon a symbol of the past. It governs your past and Leo is like Tom Cruise meaning the past you’re coming from was where you were probably quite an extrovert in that life. You’re turning into an introvert in this life so we go in cycles. We go through a series of lives where we’re an introvert then an extrovert where Dino is making the switch from being an extrovert to fairly introverted so he can go through a cycle of learning from within.

You’ve learned a lot from things that don’t work? Audience: (Laughter) It’s interesting that people are agreeing with this assessment where DK explains the rising sign: I can really identify with my own. When I started exploring esoteric astrlogy, I found that the most accurate pieces of data for reading astrology are the few little tidbits that DK did throw at us. I find what he did say is a lot more accurate than other things I’ve read in astrology books.

When you explain this to almost anyone and tell them what they’re supposed to learn, especially past middle age, they can look back, they say, “Yeah, that is really correct.” All of you might want to get your astrology charts out and dust them off or get new ones. Look at your rising sign and find out what it means then look at this as what you are supposed to learn. You must learn this the lesson of the rising sign if you are going to accomplish the mission your soul has for you. It’s important if you haven’t learned it all. You need to continue working on it. When you learned all the things that don’t work, then you can start acomplishing things that do work, OK?

Audience: Response unheard.

JJ: Maybe so. He kind of worked a lot by trial and error in making his inventions. Astrology is a science of relationships. We ourselves are like little miniature planets. Even the little atoms science examines are similar to little tiny planets. They have electrons revolving around them, as the sun has the planets revolving around it. What do we have revolving around us?

Audience: Our auras.

JJ: If we can see the aura, we see we have it revolving around us. I’ve seen my own outer aura in rotation. Now Joel’s is revolving around. As I stand next to him, if you could see it, our auras are intertwined Can you feel that Joel?

Joel: Yeah, a little bit.

JJ: Our mental auras are even bigger than our astral aura. Our mental auras are also rotating. My mental aura is actually affecting everybody in this room to a degree, because it’s influence is much much finer though harder to feel than the astral. It has a subtle influence that extends a much wider area than our astral aura. Then, of course, on the soul level, our soul has an infinite amount of influence.

Like I say, if Andy is over in Nigeria, on the soul levels we can influence each other. Each of us has an influence on each other. Basically, when we learn our differences and how to harmonize our differences, we are applying the science of astrology in our own life. In a regular astrology chart, you have several influences, some very positive, some very negative. A positive one is what they call a trine. Ok, Cindy, what kind of energy is in a trine?

Cindy: Harmonious energy.

JJ: How many degrees in a trine?

Cindy: 120 degrees in a trine.

JJ: Right. Then we have a shorter angle which is a square. What’s a square?

Cindy: A square is 90 degrees. A trine is 120 degrees.

JJ: A trine is 120 degrees and a square is 90 degrees. Then you have the opposition which is 180 degrees and you have conjunctions where two planets are converging. In our relationships, we have similar things happen to us. Have you ever met anybody right off the bat that you feel negative about, right from the beginning? That’s like a square in a astrology. You have a friction between you and the other guy. You don’t like the way he dresses, you don’t like the way he looks, and you don’t like the car he drives. That’s similar to the influence of the square.

On the other hand, if you meet somebody to whom you’re really attracted, it’s like a trine. The energy has nothing stopping it from communicating from one person to the other, it flows freely.

There there are conjunctions. I guess you could say, if you went on a date and you got along together, that would be like a conjunction.

In our own relationships, we apply the principles of astrology. We are like miniature orbs and planets converging upon one another. To work yourself through the squares of life, that is the difficulty. When you first look at a chart, for instance, you may not see anything difficult in two relationships until you look really closely and then you start to see things the couple may have to work through.

This is the way it is when you meet somebody or begin a relationship with somebody. At first, you’re not looking closely and everything’s cool and you feel the soul, but when you get to know each other, all of a sudden there are things you have to work through. One of the exercises we have done in the past Gatherings is to teach the principle of looking on each other’s soul. Since it’s near dinner, we are going to end this session by doing that. We’ll look on each other’s souls. Instead of having squares, we’ll be having trines and establish a connection with each other.

(JJ calls his wife Artie to the stage) This is the way to do it. You look the other person in the eye and you say, “Artie, I’m looking upon your soul. I love you with the pure love of Christ.” Now say that back to me.

Artie: “Joseph, I am looking upon your soul and I love you with the pure love of Christ.”

OK, we’re going to end this session by saying this to each other – everyone will take a turn. After this we’ll give each other a hug. We’re going to end this session by doing this because this is the ultimate science of relationships, which is astrology.

Audience: Participates in the exercise.

Later we ended with a past life regression.

End of gathering transcript.

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March 22, 2004

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Nauvoo Gathering, 2003, Part 22
The Sun, Moon and Rising Sign

Audience: I wondered if there is any connection between the seven rays and the astrological signs. Is there any kind of connection with the seven rays and the Rosicrucian’s seven cycles?

JJ: Not particularly with the seven cycles but we are given rays that govern astrology. Another art that uses cycles is biorhythms. Anyone ever have their biorhythms done? Using biorhythms you have a physical cycle, an emotional cycle, and a mental cycle. The emotional cycle is twenty-eight days, the mental cycle is a little bit over a month, and they all go on wavelengths. If you have several crossing at the same time on the positive side, that’s a really good time to do something that requires extra energy. They can also go through and show where the biorhythms are bad. If you check someone like Mohammed Ali when he lost this would most likely be during a low ebb for his biorhythms. If the biorhythms were good then he had extra energy to punch the guy out. People that have studied biorhythms show that this Law of Cycles goes in mental, emotional and physical energy, does affect the power that we have.

Astrology works somewhat on the same principle in the fact that it works on this Law of Cycles. But when a person achieves soul contact he becomes unpredictable. Normally we go with cycles. Now what cycle is it that women go with that bothers men to no end?

Audience: Laughter.

JJ: Yeah, the moon. They are affected strongly by the moon every twenty-eight days. Now some women are not as affected as others. Some women are really affected a lot. They go through these cycles. If a female really thinks, “I’m going to make up my mind, not to be affected, this month or not to show it.” If she uses her will power she can act like everything is cool. If she really uses willpower she can do this right? Or not? You can be unpredictable with the Law of Cycles but normally the female will be fairly predictable with the Law of Cycles during a certain time of the month. Certain times of the month she will be more moody than other times of the month. This Law of Cycles affects us.

The same thing with astrology, the Law of cycles affects us. Normally we go along with it. We are affected by it. We have the impulse to get married. We meet a person. We fall in love and it coincides with the chart. You’re going to fall in love and you’re receiving this impulse from the lives that are out there. But, what if your soul tells you: no, do not marry this person, he’s not good for you. Then suddenly you violate the Law of Cycles. Suddenly you resist all the impulses coming down to you and you do not marry that person and you completely alter all of the predictions around this particular point in your astrological chart.

So here you become unpredictable because you have soul contact and your soul guided you out of that disastrous relationship or maybe into a disastrous relationship depending on if you had a lesson to learn. Once a person achieves soul contact he becomes unpredictable. Even if a person has soul contact, he will be greatly influenced by the power of cycles because the soul will not guide you to go against the Law of Cycles just for the heck of it. It only guides you to the coontrary when there’s a purpose in it. For instance, in the Law of Cycles we eat so many times a day, most of us do, but if you decide to go on a fast, you will violate that Law of Cycles and you may not eat for three days. Contrary to what is predicted for you. Normally, you don’t have any reason to go on a fast. If you have soul contact, it will be fairly predictable that you’ll eat lunch tonight. All of us are going to eat tonight, that’s fairly predictable.

The basic astrology chart will be fairly accurate for most people, even people with soul contact, except in areas where the soul contact leads you away from what is the line of least resistance, away from the Law of Cycles, away from what is expected of you. This happens periodically to the disciple. Because of this, The Tibetan says what the Masters do is to develop these charts on the disciples, so if you’re a disciple, an accepted disciple, it means the Masters have astrological charts on you. They are like transparencies overlaid in three or four layers. They can look at the soul and the personality and see how they interplay and they can predict very closely what is going to happen to your life, even the unpredictable parts, from the view points of most astrologers. They can see when the soul is going to guide you in certain ways, because they do an astrological chart of your soul.

Audience: They really do charts on us?

JJ: Yes, that’s what DK says. So if you are an accepted disciple, they have a big chart on you somewhere.

Audience: Can’t you have those charts done here on earth?

JJ: No. Nobody knows how to cast one. Matter of fact, he said, no regular astrologer on earth knows how to cast a soul chart, but the Masters do know how to cast it.

Audience: What’s the chart that they do here?

JJ: It’s a personality chart. It’s not a soul chart. As far as esoteric astrology goes, he doesn’t give us very much but he does give a few things and we’ll cover that. There are three important aspects to Esoteric Astrology that he gives some information: One is the moon, another is the sun and a third is the rising sign. In addition he gives us esoteric planetary rulers, but as far as interpretive instructions that are new they mainly center on these three.

The moon represents the past, the sun sign represents the moment of opportunity in the present and the rising sign represents the future. That is an interesting thing to consider. The moon essentially governs physical form. That goes along with regular astrology which also shows it is very strongly connected with the emotional body. The moon affects us very strongly emotionally, it affects the female aspect especially strongly because the female has a closer connection with the moon than the male does.

You notice that almost all of the people in Wicca have the moon as a very important aspect of their belief system; almost all of them are females who are involved in Wicca, and things like this, because of the female’s close connection to the moon. DK says the moon represents the past. If any of you have been in a relationship very long, you’ll know that a female never forgets anything you’ve ever done. (laughter) You can be talking about something with your wife that happened ten years ago where you’ve kind of screwed up, and she can recount that to the smallest detail… every woman I’ve ever been involved with can remember to the smallest detail, everything that you did, ten years ago, and twenty years ago, but often I won’t remember it at all.

The male energy is more centered in the future and the female energy more in the past. The blending of the male/female energy, we could say is the present. I find that quite interesting how that is true and how finely tuned the female memory is of what we guys do. You find that to be true Larry? Ask any married man.

Audience: They say elephants are like this too. And elephants, a huge creature, is usually so gentle; if something happens they’ll never forget it. Even years later when he saw this one person . A female can be giving and trying to be understanding. Think of this huge creature, who could easily trample you, is submitting himself

JJ: I’ve never heard of a female compared to an elephant. I’m sure they don’t like that comparison.

Audience: laughter.

JJ: I have heard females compared to cats. A dream of a cat is supposed to represent a female. And a dog is supposed to represent a male. Artie thinks a dog is really a good representation of us guys. We’re like little puppies that have to be told what to do and house trained.

Laughter

We have these three aspects that he does talk about a bit. DK says the sun sign represents the time of opportunity. So you want to look at your sun sign. Mine is Aquarius which is governed by Uranus but for the disciple he says, it’s not governed by Uranus, its governed by Jupiter. All Aquarian disciples are governed by Jupiter instead of Uranus. So if I’m a disciple my personality is governed by Uranus but my soul is governed by Jupiter. If I was a member of the Hierarchy, a Master, then a higher part of myself still would be governed by another planet which he says is the Moon, but often the Moon is a veil for some hidden planet.

Leo is an easy one to remember because Leo is governed by the sun, esoterically and exoterically. What’s a regular governor of Leo, what orb? Is it the sun? Yeah, it’s the sun in all three: it’s the only one that is that way. It has the sun governing his personality, his soul and his monad; all governed by the sun.

Your personality sign which is your sun sign, governs your time of opportunity. When you read those little blurbs in the paper about your horoscope, it’s interpreted entirely by your sun sign. Is your sun your only influence in your astrological chart? No. How many influences do you have? Right, you have all these planets, you have your rising sign, you have the houses, aspects and more, but the sun is the biggest. They say the sun is about twenty-five to thirty percent of your total influence. It’s a lot, but it’s not all. You want to look at the day of your sun sign. If your are born right in the middle of your sun aspect, it’s more powerful than if you’re born right on the cusp or between sun signs. I was born February sixth which is pretty much in the middle of Aquarius. If I was born Feb. twenty-third or twenty-second, I would be right on the cusp of Pisces, so I would have some influence from Pisces in there.

Audience: Babies that aren’t born naturally, that are taken by C-Section, how does that affect them?

JJ: It affects our destiny somewhat, but the moment they are born, even if they are born by c-section you get an imprint from whatever is happening at that time. Now maybe your soul planned on having you being an Aquarius and you turn out to be Capricorn instead because of the c-section. You’ll wind up with a little bit different influences than maybe your soul had in mind for you, which might need to be taken into consideration. I haven’t heard astrologers talk about that. Have you heard an opinion on that Cindy?

Cindy’s response not clear.

JJ: But you get the imprint on your soul pretty much right at the exact moment of birth… when the imprint happens … like a photograph of your soul, so-to-speak, is taken.

Audience: Does it have something to do when the baby takes its first breath?

JJ: Yeah, when the baby takes its first breath, that’s the moment. Now when you want to have your chart done, you want to make sure to get as close to the exact moment as possible. The closer you can get, the more accurate the chart. Now for some things the exact moment isn’t that important, like your sun sign and some of the ruling planets, but especially for your rising sign and the various houses, it can make a big difference. If you can get it within five minutes of when you were born, then you’re lucky because then you can get a pretty accurate chart.

The third thing of importance is the rising sign and this is perhaps the most interesting piece of information on Esoteric Astrology that DK has given out. The time you were born the planets and house that was arising with the sun form the influence of your rising sign. What the rising sign shows you is the future. The future is always interesting to look at. What it will show you is your main purpose in life. What you are supposed to develop with your life. My rising sign was Gemini. Ok, what does Gemini tell us, Cindy?

Cindy: You have an excellent mind, very active and you can be in two minds.

JJ: Correct and Gemini also governs communication and education. The ability to communicate is something that I was supposed to learn and what was interesting about me is that I hardly spoke at all until I was five or six. When I began speaking, I said all my words wrong and my mother had to take me to a speech therapist. So its interesting, the fact, that I had difficulty communicating when I was very young, yet my rising sign indicated that I was supposed to master communication. Oftentimes, that which your rising sign indicates you are to master will be something you start out really bad at and then you end your life really good at it, if you do it right. If I did it right, I should be a pretty good communicator now, but I was a poor communicator when I was younger.

Also, through high school, I was all thumbs with communication. It wasn’t until I was older that I become happy with myself and my communication ability. I started working on this as a frustrated high school student and it took many years of struggle until I was happy with my progress. All this time I never realized I was being guided by Gemini, my rising sign.

Does anyone here know their rising sign? Anni, what’s your rising sign?

Anni: Scorpio

JJ: OK. Scorpio is often associated with divorce and death and separation. But the positive side of that is what we learn from Scorpio is to be able to face very traumatic experiences in life and to be able to understand them and weather them and learn from them. That’s one of the things I’ve heard about Scorpio. Have you found in your life, that you have been sucked into things where you have no control, where your emotions were really tested to the limit, from which you have learned a lot?

Anni: Yes, I have been tested. Within five years: my mother died, my father died and eleven months after my grandma died, just a few months before my mother, then my other grandmother died.

JJ: So you had a lot of deaths when you were young that traumatically affected you. That’s the interesting thing about Scorpio, this energy pulls us into circumstances beyond our control that produces emotions and reactions in us, because if someone close to us dies, we have a feeling and a reaction no matter how evolved you are, you are going to feel something and you’re going to have to deal with it. So, Anni, one of the lessons she has in life, maybe she had it really easy in her last life, so her rising sign tells us that she will have a number of traumatic experiences that will teach her to weather all storms and to be peaceful within herself no matter what is going on around her. See how peaceful she is now? In her last life she was probably not very peaceful. Ok, Rick, what’s your rising sign?

Rick: Gemini

JJ: OK, same as me then. Did you have any difficulty communicating when you were younger?

Rick: I always had to ask my brother to talk to other people.

JJ: Did you? See you have the same problem I did. You were shy, too? Yes, so was I. So you felt really awkward. Did you feel really awkward around girls when you were young?

Rick: Yea, I got over all that.

JJ: Yea, right. Rick can probably identify with me quite a bit because we have the same rising sign and similar problems. His rising sign, even though it is in Gemini, will be in a different section of Gemini than mine. The problems will be different, but there will be quite a few similarities to what he and I have probably learned in our lifetimes. You probably learn the lesson of the rising sign by the end of the first Saturn cycle which is around twenty-eight to twenty-nine years of age. This is an important time for you. If you don’t learn it then, you are given one more chance. If you prove to be flexible enough, if you’re still on the learning mode, it’s possible to pick it up on your next Saturn cycle which takes you up to around the age of fifty-nine years of age. If you don’t learn the lesson of your rising sign then, you’ve pretty much lost a learning opportnity. But you have to learn some of it by the time you are twenty-eight or nine and you should learn it all.

Audience: What’s Taurus?

JJ: Is your rising sign Taurus?

Audience: That’s her birth sign, not her rising sign.

JJ: Sun sign is Taurus, is it? That’s not your rising sign. It’s your fault if you don’t know because Cindy volunteered to do a chart for anybody who sent her the information. And nobody sent her the information. If you would have just sent her the information, then we could be looking over your chart here now.

Audience: Will you do them later Cindy?

Audience: What’s Leo rising?

JJ: Leo rising? Have you got a Leo rising? OK, what’s your sun sign?

Audience: Cancer

JJ: That’s interesting because Leo is so much the opposite of Cancer. Cancer is really a homebody, her natural instinct is to build a nest and kind of secure herself from the problems of the world and be safe and happy. Leo is just the opposite. Leo is like Tom Cruise, who wants to go out have a good time and find fulfillment. Her rising sign is Leo, so even though she is into security by nature, her soul is telling her, no, we’re not going to just let you relax, we’re going to make you explore and find out everything it takes to fulfill yourself, because Leo is into self-fulfillment. Her mission in life, by the age of twenty-eight, should have been … How old are you Lorraine?

Lorraine: I just had my thirty-ninth birthday last month.

JJ: OK… you’re older than twenty-eight? I would have never known it. OK. By the age of about twenty-eight to nine you should have got a pretty good idea of what you want to do in life to fulfill yourself and make yourself happy. Because once every twelve lifetimes we have to have a rising sign of Leo where we have to take a break and make ourselves happy. We have to do that once in awhile. Not only are other people important, we’re important too, so we have to take some time once in a while to figure out what brings self fulfillment. Leo is a sign of self-fulfillment. So, Lorraine, have you figured out what it is to fulfill yourself and make yourself happy?

Lorraine: In some things. I have figured out some things.

JJ: Well, you have until the second Saturn cycle to figure it all out. You should have had a pretty good rough idea by the age of twenty-eight. It really helps if you learn this when young. You can really help your children by finding out their rising sign and what it means and guide them so they can learn it by the age of twenty-eight. If they can learn it by the age of twenty-eight it will be a big help to them in their lifetime.

March 19, 2004

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Nauvoo Gathering, 2003, Part 21
The Mysteries of Astrology

JJ: Today we’re going to talk about astrology. Astrology in esoteric language is sometimes called the Science of Relationships. Have you ever heard astrology called this? Why is it called the science of relationships, that’s not what normal astrologers call it.

Audience: because of the relationship between the planets and us?

JJ: There’s another main reason why it’s called the science of relationships. The hint is in planets. Are planets living bodies or dead bodies? Does this give you an idea of why astrology is the science of relationships? Right. As living beings we have various types of relationship between us. And so, if the planets are also living beings, would relationships also be involved? The scientists say astrology can’t be real because the gravitational field of Mars has a negligible effect on earth. It wouldn’t be enough to affect anything. That’s the explanation scientists give why astrology isn’t scientific. But, does the gravitational power of my body affect Andy’s body at all? That doesn’t make sense. If Andy’s in Nigeria and I write an e-mail, even though his body is so far away that the warmth of my body will never affect his body, can I still have an affect on him, even though he is in Nigeria? How is that?

Audience: You can have an emotional effect on somebody. You can have a mental effect on somebody.

JJ: Response is more than physical presence versus physical presence isn’t it? Even though Andy is a long way away from my physical presence, I can e-mail him or I can phone him or I can write him a letter or just remembering my warm personality (laughter) I can have an influence on him. Maybe attending this meeting, maybe hearing something I said may affect what he will do tomorrow. So, even though he is in Nigeria and I am here we can still have an affect on each other. Of course, it works the other way, Andy can have an effect on me.

When you look at it in this way, it brings it into the area of believability that even though the gravitational field of Mars has virtually negligible affect on somebody here on earth, that doesn’t mean anything. Just like Andy’s warmth of his body, I can’t feel it when he’s in Nigeria, I can’t even feel it across the room. So, that doesn’t mean anything. That’s not relationship. Relationship is the influence that your life essence and your personality have upon another person even though that other person may be thousands of miles away. We are millions of miles away from the planet Mars and much further away from the planets Jupiter and Saturn yet they can still have an effect on us. Why can they have an effect on us? Why can Andy have an effect on me? Because he’s a living human being with personality and attributes. Why can Mars have an affect on me? Because it’s a living planet with attributes just as lesser human lives have attributes.

These attributes have been determined by astrologers using intuitive and psychic perceptions. The various astrologers through time have determined various planets have certain effects on us. One interesting thing DK says is that none of the planets are named randomly. He says that they all name themselves, pretty much. When Pluto was discovered he mentioned that fact. It’s not by accident that Neptune is named Neptune. It’s interesting that when Neptune was first named we could hardly even see what color it was. After we sent voyager there we saw the deep blue that surrounded Neptune and found that it was really well named for the way that actually looked. It looks like a giant blue watery planet even though it’s not water, it’s different types of gasses. It’s a very blue looking planet, so it is very fitting for its name. What are the attributes of some of the planets for instance? Are there any amateur astrologers we can pick on?

Audience: Which planet in our solar system has an opposite spin to ours?

JJ: That’s a planet that governs Aquarius, Uranus. Uranus has opposite spin? No, you’re talking about the rotation or the spin? Uranus has opposite rotation. If I remember right, Uranus, its rotation, goes out in opposite direction.

Audience Venus was what I heard.

JJ: Interesting little tidbit. Now, there are two types of astrology… there is regular personality astrology and then there’s astrology presented by DK which he calls esoteric astrology. And very few people understand esoteric astrology. For one thing, he speaks around ideas, but he doesn’t speak and teach directly how to use them. Have you read his book Esoteric Astrology, Cindy? After reading it can you do esoteric astrology?

Cindy: I’m studying Transitional astrology.

JJ: Not too many people are attempting to learn esoteric astrology. He made a prediction that some student in the near future would elaborate on esoteric astrology. I found a lady on the net that thought she was the fulfillment of that prophecy and she was attempting to do that. But I didn’t have time to study her thoroughly to see if she was really accomplishing anything. I’m sure there are a number of people attempting to do that.

There are a couple significant things that DK does make pretty clear that we are going to go into. First of all, he points out that for the average person, the prediction powers of astrology using the normal methods are really pretty accurate, because the personality and how it is influenced is fairly predictable. However when a person reaches soul consciousness it is more difficult to read them, they become more unpredictable because of what the soul tells you to do is often different than what the personality wants you to do. Have any of you had this happen? You go along with your personality the way you want to do something and you feel an inner communication guiding you towards something you had not thought. I see Anni’s nodding her head. Doesn’t that make sense Anni, that is you are unpredictable is because your soul has a different opinion than your personality.

Anni: yes

JJ: So your soul is really unpredictable from the viewpoint of the lower man. Examining personality traits does not give much insight into the soul. Another thing he says is that the signs are not in the places the astrologers say they are. When the astrologer says the sun is in Leo, it’s really not in Leo. It’s really all an illusion. But since we’ve accepted the illusion for so long, it’s really a thoughtform around the illusion that produces the reality that makes astrology accurate on a lower level. So I thought that was quite funny. One of the criticisms of astrology by scientists is that the signs aren’t in the exact places that astrology says they are. But DK says that doesn’t matter because of the thoughtform around it. Everything in this world of illusion governed by the personality is governed by the power of thought to such a degree.

There is one true reality around astrology that makes it work and that’s the Law of Cycles. Everything does repeat itself. You’ve always heard the term, history repeats itself. If we do not learn history and discover why mistakes were made in history, then we’re doomed to repeat it.

That’s too bad, because some of the mistakes in history are so clear. If you’ve studied the history of WW II, the mistakes we made are so obvious on hindsight that its disappointing to see we make some of the same mistakes today because some of the younger generation are oblivious to history. In many of our schools the history is edited to make it politically correct and history is not learned accurately because there are so many things people are afraid to write about in the history books used by schools. I heard somewhere in one history book we’re teaching to kids only has one paragraph about Abraham Lincoln and doesn’t mention George Washington. What they’re teaching, I don’t know, but it’s important that we through our own efforts learn history so we do not repeat the Law of Cycles in a negative way. The Law of Cycles is a foundation principle of astrology. Name some of the cycles that influence us.

Audience: 26,000 year cycle

JJ: The approximate 26,000 year cycle through all twelve signs of the zodiac? Yeah, that’s the big cycle. The most common cycle, we’ll start out with is the rotation of the earth, which takes how long? One day. So, one day is one cycle. We know that tomorrow morning the sun is going to rise as long as the clouds don’t interfere too much. Then the sun will set. It’s something we can depend on. It happens all the time. What’s the second cycle in relation to the earth? In one year, the earth circles around the sun. Other cycles govern the other planets. Not only does the earth circle around the sun but the other planets circle around the sun. And the moon revolves around the earth every twenty-eight days. That was an important cycle.

An interesting thing about astrology is that it’s condemned by many born again Christians as being evil. Yet its mentioned quite a bit in the Bible. In the days of Moses, they had the New Moon Festivals. Matter of fact, they had this hill where they waited on for the exact moment of the new moon. And when the exact moment of the new Moon occurred they sent a signal to the surrounding communities, when the exact moment of the new moon was, so they could perform their rites and ordinances. The New Moon, was really big for the ancient Israelites. They governed a lot of the things they did around it.

In the Book of Job it talks about the sweet influences of the Pleiades; it talks about the Mazzaroth which is the twelve signs of the zodiac. And it talks about the three wise men that came from the east and they were astrologers. Then it talks about the star of Bethlehem that stood still in the sky and most astrologers think that means they were observing a planet that goes retrograde. When it goes retrograde it ceases to move and stands still in the sky for a period of time. When you look at the Greek, it indicates a stopping of the star of Bethlehem, indicating a planet going retrograde. All planets, of course, continue orbiting forward, but because of their different speeds and distances in relation to us they appear to stop and stand still in the sky for a period of time.

When they reach a certain speed, they are all going forward, but from a point on earth as the planets move indifferent directions, it looks like the planet stops and goes backwards. But it’s an illusion. It doesn’t stop.

Mercury might go retrograde and it looks in the sky like it’s going forward then it stops and goes backwards. It really mystified old astrologers why this happened. That’s why they called the planets wanderers. Planet means wanderer. They stop, they go backwards, and then they go forwards. They couldn’t for the life of them understand why that happened. Especially since they believed that the earth was the center of the universe. If the earth was the center of the universe, they ought to always be going around the earth. Everything ought to be going around the earth. But the planets would go this way and then they’d stop and go back. So they had no explanation for that in ancient times.

Audience: The orbit of the planets around the sun has a certain orbit like a food. Do you know that one?

JJ: I never heard of that one.

Audience: An egg. They have an oval orbit like an egg.

JJ: You stay up too late studying these things.

Audience: Hey, now you know how important an egg is.

JJ: Is it the molecular structure, or is it something about the egg?

Audience: The shape.

JJ: The Law of Cycles states that things repeat over and over and over again. In orthodox astrology, the one thing they do get right is the Law of Cycles. Many astrologers have studied the various cycles and an important cycle is called the Saturn cycle. What’s the Saturn cycle?

Cindy: The length of time Saturn takes to go all the way around the chart is approximately twenty-eight to twenty-nine years.

JJ: We’re just testing her to see if she really knows her stuff. Ok, have you heard anything about what’s significant about the Saturn cycle? I found that’s one of the more interesting things I’ve studied.

Audience: In terms of the human being? Alliteration something?

JJ: Its about a cycle of around twenty-nine and a half years. There are various theories about this time period, but this cycle is seen as an important time period by many people who study cycles. This is an important time period because the first twenty-one years of your life you repeat everything from all your past lives. At twenty-one we should be ready to progress with the basic intelligence we had in our past life. Of course, we won’t remember it all, but internally, the internal intelligence and ability that we have is basically where we left off in our past life. Then from age 21 to the end of the first Saturn cycle is an important time of growth.

DK points out that generally the time that we die will be the time that we will be born in our next life. Now from my doing an experiment by taking people back into past lives, I find this is not always true, but is often true. I do not believe it’s an ironclad rule. I think it quite often happens that if you die in February, you will be born in February according to him. A number of my friends, ones I found out who they were in past lives, I found out that they have had this happen, but in other instances it doesn’t happen. There are exceptions to all things. What do you suppose the reason for that is? That the month you die will be the month you are born as a rule of thumb?

Audience response not clear.

JJ: It could be like a symbol that you are picking up where you left off. I would think if you had an accidental death, premature death, you’d be less likely to choose the same month. If you had a premature death then your internal clock tells you when you are going to die. If someone breaks into your house and shoots you, then that may not be something planned by your soul. So then you are more likely to be born in some other time period. But if you have a natural death I would assume that it’s much more likely you would be born the same month you died. DK indicates this is often the case. So, look at your birth month and that’s a good chance that’s also your death month in your past lifetime.

We have this Law of Cycles and the thing about astrology is that Saturn repeats itself at a set time in spinning around the sun, revolving around the sun, as does Jupiter, as do all the other planets. When you look at this consistency of rotation and then apply it to a roadmap to life, you are going to get a certain degree of accuracy. The Law of Cycles does apply in your life.

The Rosicrucians, in one of their books I read, have an interesting spin on the Law of Cycles also. They divide each year into seven periods and each period is made up of fifty-two days. One of the most important periods is the period following the month of your birth. The fifty-two days following your birth month, is a really good time to begin something new. On the other hand, the fifty-two days before your birth month is a good time to dissolve things that aren’t working.

It’s the same way in astrology. Pisces is the last sign and it’s a really good sign for dissolving things that do not work. It’s a sign for letting things go that are not working in your life. Whereas Aries is a good initiating energy so it’s a similar type thing. In the Law of Basic Cycles of the fifty-two days, you might keep this in mind if you’re going to begin a new business or new project, do it right after your birthday. Its a good time to give it an extra shot of energy and power to consummate that which you do. According to this Law of Cycles, the fifty-two days before your birthday is the worst time to start something new. I try to apply that in my life. It hasn’t guaranteed success. The main thing that guarantees success, of course, is your inner drive. You might as well take advantage of all the extra energies out there that are in your favor. You can swim upstream and still get where you are going if you’re determined enough. But, if you’re able to swim downstream, it makes it a little easier.

March 15, 2004

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Nauvoo Gathering, 2003, Part 20
The Soul of the Universe

Audience: If I take it to extreme I can’t ask God anything?

JJ: All parts of you are linked back to God. The answers you get when you pray to God come from different parts of yourself which are eventually linked up to God, to the one life. You are a part of the one life!. You get the answers from within yourself almost all the time. Your subconscious mind produces a lot of the answers. If the subconscious mind doesn’t have it you can go to the higher mind linked to the Soul. The step above this is direct soul contact. Every once in awhile we may get an answer from a master, or someone from the spirit world, who is disincarnate. That’s really an answer from God because they are a part of God. We’re all a part of Him.

So if you break down and have a flat tire in the middle of nowhere and you pray to God for somebody to help you and someone stops, you got an answer from God because you got an answer from someone who is an image of God.

Audience: Response not clear.

JJ: They see God as a person up on a throne to whom you pray and He comes directly down. It’s not directly. All of our answers from God are indirect from representatives of God. You have to look at the idea that God is manifesting everywhere but His consciousness is manifesting in people, in us, in you and me.

Look at it this way. Let me give you an interesting principle to consider. We look on our souls in our body as the interplay of spirit and matter, that point between spirit and matter. That’s the point which is the intermediary between God and man. If we look at the universe as a whole, that which is the point between spirit and matter is humanity. Conscious humanity is the soul of the universe. If you look at the soul within you it’s a point that’s very hard to find because it’s a place where land, water and air meet which is neither wet nor dry. It’s hard to find those little points which are neither wet nor dry. The little points within the universe, which is a very small percentage of the whole, yet very powerful, are humanity. The human consciousness throughout the universe is the point of soul contact of the whole universe. Within your body you have a soul which is the interplay between spirit and matter. We are the interplay between spirit and matter in the universe. We are working out the creation of God in physical form. The soul within your body organizes your body and gives it form. The destiny of humanity is to organize the whole universe and give it greater form.

Audience: unheard

JJ: I’m not talking about only humans on earth. I’m talking about humans in the universe. Billions of planets throughout the universe have human like inhabitants, not just planet earth. Humanity throughout the whole universe is the soul of the universe. Each of us, when we perform a work, need to focus our attention on one thing at a time. God, whose physical body is the universe, focuses His attention on His soul in order to create, and the soul of the physical universe is us. So His attention is focused on us to be the creators of the universe. That’s why we are called the image of God.

In the beginning God made man in His own image, in His own likeness. He reflected Himself and put attention on His soul in the universe. That’s a profound seed thought to contemplate. It will give you an idea of the destiny of humanity. We are the consciousness of God in the universe. We are His soul, His creators.

Audience: Is this DK’s teaching or from where does it come?

JJ: DK doesn’t explain that fully. After I discovered it myself I found that he hints at it. He never elaborated on it. It’s not written anywhere. This is a teaching you won’t find anywhere but right here as far as I know. I think I’ve written it on the Keys. I can’t remember everything I’ve written about in the archives. It’s a profound thought to think about and it’s a tremendous principle. As above, so below. Where is the soul of the universe? The soul of the universe is humanity.

Audience: You touch upon that in the book too.

JJ: Matter of fact, in a future book, maybe the next one, I’m going to write about the universe from its smallest parts to its greatest. Joe, in the book, is going to be given a grand tour from the smallest particle to the greatest particle to see how everything is put together. It’ll probably cover several chapters and be one of the more interesting things in the series.

Audience: So, when we evolve our purpose then is to put our attention on humanity because it’ll be our souls eventually?

JJ: Everyone thinks our purpose is just to go back home but in reality you never go back home. When you graduate from high school then went to college and went back home, it was different, wasn’t it? We’re never going back home the way it was, yet this is what everybody thinks. “Our purpose is just to go back home.” You need to use correspondences here. Do you ever just go back home? You go back home but it’s not the way you remembered it. Everything is different. Maybe your parents got a divorce or your brothers and sisters got married or your friends have moved away. When you go back home it’s just not home anymore. This is part of adjusting. We’ll never go back home to the way that it was.

When all of creation is wrapped up we’ll go back to God, so to speak, but it will be different. We’ll be on a new turn of the spiral. We won’t be going back home and relaxing to things that were the same as it used to be. Every turn of the spiral is new and different. It’s like the eighth initiation we talked about, the initiation of transition. We eventually all have to go through the initiation of transition where we accept the fact that the great age has passed. As we make our journey back home there is a tremendous transition because we’re going to an entirely new sphere of activity that’s different from anything we’ve ever encountered. This is one of the things we need to adjust as we end our evolution in this sphere.

There is tremendous change always taking place: tremendous changes in our consciousness. The true going back home…when you’re going back home for a short time it’s comforting to go back to your base, so to speak. In a way we can still do that and this is returning back home right now. When you go to the soul within, you go to your source, and you have a feeling of returning home. But that’s not in the far future, that’s now. The home of the far future will be different than the past. It will be on a new turn of the spiral. We can compare it to playing middle C, then you play a higher C. They’re the same but different. When we return home it will be the same but different, a different note, a different vibration and it’s still a familiar vibration. It’s like the higher C is familiar and a similar vibration to middle C yet different. Things will always be different and always be evolving.

March 13, 2004

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Nauvoo Gathering, 2003, Part 18
The Rays of Attribute

Mindy Burge continues the presentation on the rays focusing on Ray Five.

The fifth ray is the ray of the scientist, the analytical thinker, the detail oriented person. It’s close to the third ray in a lot of ways. It includes the chemist, the electrician, the engineer, the surgeon and these types of people. They’re the ones who stick with the details and precise statements, perseverance. We think of the personality as a tool for the soul. The fifth ray uses the lower mind as an expression of the higher mind. It came into expression in the Lemurian Age when Sanat clicked his Bic and the spark in the minds of men were born.

The mind has begun to work. The fifth ray starts out with the mind beginning to think. It goes through the whole thinking process. You’re starting to think through things and pull details together. It’s where we tend to find atheists, people who are pulling facts together and having no proof of things such as God. It goes into mental separation when you start learning things and pull them apart and put them back together.

As time progresses and things build on that, that’s the basic platform, it leads up to a broader knowledge. You being to realize the soul and the potential of it. People turn around and start to believe in God again. It’s also closely related to the second ray because it’s the basis that to know something is to love something. The mind and the heart reveal each other through this ray. It’s a strong conduit for first ray energy working through the mind.

Audience: Why is it green? I thought the fifth ray was orange? The colors; I thought they were are different than what’s on the chart. Does that make a difference if green is more active intelligence than love/wisdom? Blue and yellow make green so does that have anything to do with the ray of science?

Mindy: Different authors have them listed as being different colors and there is also the esoteric and exoteric of each so you need to use your intuition.

Audience: There’s no sequence necessarily. A lot of teachers teach the rays go in the same sequence as the colors do.

Audience: So any of the bodies, physical, emotional, mental, can any of the bodies be on any one of the rays?

Mindy: Some are more prone to be on certain rays than others.

Audience: So what would be the difference between two people with one having his emotional body on the fifth ray as opposed to someone having his mental body on the fifth ray?

Mindy: That’s a good question.

JJ: The emotional body would rarely be on the fifth ray but if it was the person would have mental control over his emotions. The emotions would be very controlled and directed toward the mind. If the mind is on the fifth ray we’ll have a scientist.

Mindy: On the line of least resistance, if you have a mental body that’s fifth ray it would definitely be the line of least resistance to work through.

Question: Which Ray would Martin Luther King have been on?

JJ: Martin Luther King probably had a first ray personality or soul, one or the other because of the tremendous impact he had.

Audience: We had conflict in the early sixties and harmony that came out of it.

JJ: There’s quite a possibility he had a fourth ray mind but the most prominent thing was the change that he made. So there was definitely first ray in him. He probably had a fourth ray mind.

Audience: A political change would be a sixth ray change?

JJ: Political idealism is sixth ray. There was a lot of sixth ray in political ideals.

The crusaders were strong sixth rays. They were devoted to a cause.

Audience: There was a really well known fellow, and I can’t remember his name, but when the social changes in the sixties came in, Abby Hoffman, that’s him. When we left the sixties and went into the seventies …

JJ: The sixties were strongly influenced by the sixth ray and the second ray. They picked up the love in the second ray but presented it in the sixth ray. They were idealistic. They picked up some real love energy but were tempered by the old way.

Audience: I see it as we spent many years in devotion and idealism but hopefully as we’re moving into harmony through conflict, we’ll eventually see a release through the fourth ray.

JJ: The year 2025 will probably be around the time we’ll be solving things in the Middle East, hopefully.

Mindy: The seventh ray is one a lot of people have trouble understanding but it’s really a fun ray. It goes back to what JJ: was saying yesterday, the first shall be the last. It’s the last one listed but it was the first one necessary in building physical creation, the seventh sub-plane of the physical, in order for the other rays to come in and do their work. It’s the ray of ceremony, organization, structure and magic. It began by building the little atoms and molecules and everything that’s been built up since then. As far as it being the last into the first it will be the consummation of this age and the Molecular Relationship and all that good stuff comes together here. Some virtues are: strength, perseverance, courage. Vices are: bigotry, formalism, pride, narrowness, people get stuck in their ways. It includes the ritualistic things we do. For healing, it’s the ray of the surgeon and nurse with all the tiny details to see. Many superstitious people and those who practice the occult are found on this ray.

Audience: What do we have to look forward with this coming? Will there be more ceremonies and healings?

JJ: The Masonic order utilizes the seventh ray. Mormon ceremonies are also based on the seventh ray.

Mindy: A lot of the temple work and the symbols and rituals began during the Atlantean Age. Many of them have carried over and will come again into fruition in the new age.

Audience: Will there be more temples and ceremonies in the new age?

Mindy: I’m not sure about the temples. Are we expecting more temples?

Audience: This isn’t a question but I think JJ: recently mentioned that there’s a symbol for this ray, of ceremony and magic, and if we use it we’ll become water bearers like the Christ, who had those bear water right before the last supper.

JJ: He told the disciples to go find the man with the pitcher of water and that would lead them to the place of the Last Supper. That’s the symbol of the future, the Aquarian Age governed by ray seven.

Mindy: Another correlation is that it’s starting out as the mineral kingdom and ending up as the solar kingdom. It relates to the first ray and carries it out.

The Alice Bailey books can be a little heavy. There are a lot of authors who have put out books to explain them. This is a good one which contains a summary of each ray, The Seven Rays Made Visual. I brought along a couple others from my book shelf, Psychological Types and the Seventh Ray, and Threefold Method for Understanding the Seventh Ray. These will be up here if you’d like to look at them. There’s a lot of books out there with different authors trying to explain what they think DK is saying.

Audience: Would you mind saying the chakras and the rays again?

Comment: The head center is the ray of will and power, the first ray. The anja center is the ray of concrete knowledge, the fifth ray. The throat center is the third ray. The heart center is the second ray, love and wisdom. The solar plexus is devotion, the sixth ray. The sacral center is the ray of ceremonial magic which is the seventh and the base of the spine is ray of harmony or the fourth ray.

Mindy: There are many tabulations on what corresponds with what and where and how and why.

JJ: Does anyone have any idea why the base of the spine is the fourth ray? The base of the spine center is the beginning of the life energy. It’s like lighting a candle. That candle lights another candle until all the seven candles are lit. It’s interesting that the base of the spine is often on the fourth ray. The first and the seventh are strong in certain individuals, but the influence of the fourth is interesting.

Audience: I think it’s because somebody on the fourth ray often is a pain there. (Laughter)

Audience: What planet rules the fourth ray?

Answer: Mercury

JJ: The girls did a great job, didn’t they? Let’s give them a hand. (Applause)

JJ: The rays go in and out of incarnation yet all the seven rays are always influencing us. This is because we, as individuals, incarnate the seven rays within us in our various bodies. So even though the fourth ray may be out of incarnation, our mind could still be strongly influenced by it. When DK speaks about a ray being in or out of incarnation he’s talking about the planet Earth, as a whole. Its various bodies and parts of it are governed by three or four of the rays which are incarnated at any given time. So even though, for the entire planet, when ray four is out of incarnation, you as an individual may have it in incarnation within your little sphere of influence. But when that ray is in incarnation for the whole planet its influence is very powerful.

The most obvious of these is the sixth ray which has been incarnation in many ways. It’s been incarnation for the whole planet in the sign of Pisces. So you have it influencing through the sign of Pisces and also being in incarnation on the Earth. This has made it very powerful especially during this Piscean Age which is a water age to begin with, then influenced strongly by ray six.

This is another meaning of the beast which is known as the number 666. In interpreting it by the ray influences, meaning that 6 influences the sign of Pisces, and 6 influences the emotional body. If we’re governed by our emotions we’re governed by the number 6 and if our emotions govern the mind rather than the mind governing the emotions, then the mind is governed by ray 6. And if the actions of the physical body are also governed by emotional impulse then the body is indirectly governed by ray 6 so you have a 6 mind, 6 emotions, and 6 physical activity. That’s 666, the number of the beast which means it makes us not much better than the beast because we’re governed by raw emotion with no mind in charge.

This is the way the animals are governed. They’re governed by their feeling and instinct and they’re herded wherever someone with a mind will herd them. If we allow ourselves to be herded about by religions and political authorities of the earth, the authorities govern our actions, and when the authorities also govern our minds and our feelings, then we are governed by the 666 influence of the beast within.

In the coming new age we’re going to be governed by the seventh ray and also the fifth. So our purpose here is to learn to think, to be able to escape the mark of the beast. Of course the mark of the beast is governed by two things. One is the mark on the right hand symbolizing that you’re governed by emotional power over your labor. Second is the mark in the forehead showing that emotional power. without thought, will govern your thinking and thus will eliminate your power to think and make true decisions. This causes your thinking and actions to be based on what someone else has decided for you.

So if you’re in a good old time religion and the authorities in that religion tell you what to think and tell you what the scriptures mean and tell you what you can do and what you can’t do then you’re governed by the power of the beast. When John saw in his vision that 144,000 escaped the power of the beast, it was because they had the mark of the Father in their forehead. The mark of the Father on the forehead symbolizes that those who can look within and escape the power of the authorities without and be governed by the soul (the god) within are those that escape the power of the beast. It’s interesting that the Bible says the power of the antichrist was already in the world at the time the apostles were alive. We’re not waiting for some antichrist to show up. He’s been here all along. The power to escape has been here all along. The power to escape lies within each one of us.

The seventh ray is coming into activity and it’s an interesting one. We are going to perfect ceremonial magic. The churches have had this all along, the Eucharist, the Sacrament, the Baptism. These are all ceremonies that stimulate the magical powers of the soul within. In the coming age new ceremonies are going to be developed. The past ceremonies were centered largely around water, like baptism, because Pisces was a water sign. What’s the element that governs the Age of Aquarius?

Audience: Air.

JJ: Air. So what is something related to air that may be part of the ceremonies of the new age?

Audience: Magnetism? Breathing?

JJ: Right, breathing. Christ gave an example of this when He breathed on disciples and they received the Holy Spirit. You may have noticed that several times when we’ve done healing we’ve breathed on the person. These ceremonies around breath will become more common in the new age. DK points out that it’s a little dangerous to do the various breathing exercises that are recommended by some people until you learn how to do them safely. It will eventually be taught in the coming age how to use the breath safely and how to use it in ceremonies to help to manifest the Holy Spirit.

March 5, 2004

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Nauvoo Gathering, 2003, Part 17
The Three Primary Rays

We are now going to hear from one of our founding members – Anni West from Denmark. She’s going to cover rays one through three and give a brief synopsis of them. Artie just mentioned that some people aren’t familiar with the rays so please give a brief explanation of what the rays are.

Anni: I feel like thirty years ago as I was standing in my first class as a teacher with all these little children looking at me. At that time I said to myself, “Why are they all looking at me? Why don’t they all look somewhere else?” I just wanted to run away and hide. That was thirty years ago and I still feel the same. It’s terrible!

What are the rays? The rays are actually energy coming throughout the sun system. They come from far far away. This sun system is part of a constellation. With seven sun systems with it, it is in a galaxy. From that galaxy there is a spiritual light coming into the galaxy and it’s coming through all its sun systems. Our sun system is on what we call the second ray. Each of these sun systems is vibrating on a certain ray. Ours is vibrating on the second ray in this constellation.

What happens is this light goes into our constellation through the sun and it’s transformed. It comes out as the seven rays. It’s really like a prism. When the light shines through it, it comes out in seven different colors. Really it’s just one light shining through it, but it will look like seven different colors to us.

You can also see it when it goes through the water as in the sky with the rainbow. When it’s shining through water you can see the seven colors. They’re actually energies, very strong energies. They’re different energies each having special qualities. None are more important than the other. They’re all necessary.

It is through these seven rays that creation is happening, that our lives are happening, that we live. You could ask why there are seven rays and that’s a good question. Why exactly seven? Seven is the magic number in the evolution we’re in right now. You know that when you think about it because seven appears in many different ways like the seven days of the week. I bet you could mention more like chakras, the great energy centers in the body.

Audience: Seven notes

Anni: Right. Seven notes in the music scale.

Audience: The seven planes

Anni: The seven planes of consciousness, that’s true.

Audience: The seven dwarves? (Laughter)

Anni: There are lots of sevens. God created the world in seven days as it says in the Bible. We have seven ventricles in the brain. So, seven is the magical number. There will be a time when eight will be the magical number but that’s far, far ahead in evolution. One day it will be eight but right now it’s seven. We also have the seven rays.

The rays can be divided into two groups. The first three, rays one, two and three, are called the rays of aspect. The last four are called the rays of attribute. JJ: taught us the difference. He said you can compare it as the first three correspond to what you can see and the last four correspond to what you can hear or sense. He gave a very good picture of this. He said if you have a guitar string and look at it, it’s not moving, it’s just sitting there and it’s just one single string. Then you pluck it and what happens? It starts vibrating and there’s movement and there’s a sound. When it starts moving it will look like three different strings, one in the middle one on the top and one on the bottom. You know, because you saw before you plucked it, that it’s just one string but the illusion is created that there are really three strings because that’s the way it looks when it’s vibrating.

These you can compare to the first three rays, rays one, two and three. Actually it’s just one ray but to us it looks like there are three. The sound coming out of it can be compared to the last four rays. So that’s a good picture, I think, of how it works. There is just one energy, one life, one God, but there is an illusion created that there is more. The rays are here all the time and they influence everything on the earth in the whole system.

They are more or less active. They can go in and out of activity. The second ray is always very important because the whole sun system is on the second ray and it’s actually influencing all the seven rays in our solar system, sort of lying behind them. The sixth ray has had a lot of influence the last 2000 years but it’s going out now. It’s becoming less and less active. The seventh ray is growing in activity. They are combined in different ways throughout history. That’s what gives different periods in the history of man the influence that sometimes we have great wars; sometimes we have great artists or other things.

If you look through history you can see the influence of the rays on different times because that’s the way they work. They influence all forms including planets, suns, the earth, minerals, plants, animals, human beings and everything. If they were not here we would not even exist. When you think about human beings, I think JJ: mentioned this already; we’re actually influenced by many different rays. It’d be easy to find our own ray if it was just one thing, but it’s not. Our soul is vibrating on one ray and it will keep vibrating on that ray all through our lifetimes. It’s a constant but the other parts can shift from one lifetime to another. The others include the personality ray. The whole personality is vibrating on a special ray. Your mental body is vibrating on a special ray. Your emotional body is vibrating on a special ray, your physical body also and your monad also. So it’s really a great mixture. For me it’s been really hard to figure out what ray I am.

I’m going to tell a little about the first three rays. The first three, you can say the three are one or the one is three. You’ve heard that expression. If you go to the Hindu language you could also call them Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma. You’ve probably heard of those identities. We call them the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit or you could call the Spirit, consciousness and matter. They’re called by different names. DK tells us all life begins with triangles. So it is with the rays also. JJ: has taught us the three sub-aspects of each ray. The first ray is called the ray of power. That’s the word we usually use for it. Do you remember the other sub-aspects?

Audience: Will.

Anni: That’s the second one: Will. Then what’s really important? You can use power and will but what you need is?

Audience: Purpose.

Anni: Right. Those are the three sub-aspects of the first ray; will, power and purpose. We know these things from our own lives. Also as personalities we know these things. We know if I want to accomplish in education, get a good job, have a family, those are all my goals and purposes. So it is if you go up one step it’s a higher octave of the same thing. That’s God’s purpose, God’s will and God’s power. They don’t always go well with what the personality wants. How can you make your own personality tune into God’s will and purpose? You know that. JJ: has taught us that lots of time. By using what?

Audience: Soul contact.

Anni: Yes, soul contact. That’s the way. For example, if I wanted to go to the Gathering I could do it for two reasons. I could say, “I want to meet these people, I love these people, I want to go there.” Or I could say, “God wants me to go there. My soul wants me to go there.” That’s two different purposes really. Mine was the first. (Laughter)

If you tune into the highest you know, the highest you can perceive and get, that’s the highest point of God’s will you can find, God’s purpose, you won’t go wrong. Of course, we can not perceive all of it yet, we can get some of it. That’s the way to manifest it all. You tune in and get some soul contact on what direction we’re going, what’s the purpose of God, what does my soul want me to do? You then put some tension on it and it will manifest as long as it’s the highest you know and it does not obstruct the purpose of God. God’s purpose will happen on earth. We cannot change that as human beings. No way. It will happen. What we can do is to speed it up or slow it down. We can help or we can say, “no! no! no! It’s too dangerous. I don’t want to do this or that.”

The first ray is also called the ray of destruction. It’s a very powerful ray. Even the words, the ray of power, say that. It is a very powerful ray. It’s like in order for something new to be born something has to die. Think about a big city. There are lots of tall buildings in the city but they get old and people want to put in new things. Beautiful new buildings maybe. What do you need to do? You have to tear down the old, get a bulldozer in there and tear them down. So it is with the first ray. It will go in and tear things down and break down and destroy things. Not for destruction itself but to make room for new things and give birth to new things.

When Atlantis had to disappear first ray went in and wham! It ended it to give birth to something new and better; new civilizations. When I talk about people vibrating on the different rays it’s similar to types.

Actually according to DK there are no people on earth right now who are pure first ray people because they would be much too strong for us. We’re not ready for it yet. But some of us are influenced by the first ray in some ways. If you’re very influenced by the first ray what sort of person would you be? You’d be a leader, a born leader. You’d be a person who would go do it. If you see a goal is there you’d just go do it.

I don’t know if I’m right but I was thinking about Tony Blair during the war of Iraq. The British people didn’t want this war very much. About seventy percent said they didn’t want the war. It was something he had to do. He didn’t care about the consequences. There was a goal he had so he went ahead and he did it and he knew it might cost him his job if everything went wrong but he didn’t care about the consequences. It was a job to be done. Such are the people who are influenced by this ray. They do the job. They’re very responsible people and will take the responsibility and go by themselves. This can be good and bad. Like everything else, it has to be balanced. If they’re really strong and good leaders they’ll do what’s best for humanity, for everybody. They also need to be influenced by the second ray of love and wisdom to be really good leaders. If they go too much to the other side they can become tyrants or people who really want to control and they’ll be bad people like Napoleon or someone like that. But of course they aren’t only politicians and leaders. I think a guy like Picasso who changed art, he destroyed old ways of painting and created new ways could be influenced by some first ray too.

I have this little book that’s an English book called, The Human Temperaments by G. Hudson. He’s written about the rays and has this part I like very much. It’s a game you can play with yourself to help see the different rays. When you go into a shop and observe the people shopping it’s really fun to see how they react in different ways. The first ray person coming into the shop will walk in and say, “Here I am. I’d like a white shirt please.” He gets the shirt, turns around and leaves, very calm and purposeful. All business. I’ll take the other rays as we go along.

The second ray is called the ray of love and wisdom. Of course there are three sub-aspects here too. Do you know what they are? Well, it’s called the ray of love and we’ve already said wisdom. Leonardo Da Vinci said something like, “to love something you have to understand it.” What do you think the third one is?

Audience: Understanding!

Anni: Yea, right! It’s really true isn’t it? It’s really easy to hate something you do not understand. We all know that. So understanding is a very important ingredient. But of course it’s not enough because a person can understand you perfectly well but still use that understanding for selfish purposes. If someone came to my house with a gun and I said, “Hey I’m really scared you’re going to kill me or my kids and take my things away.” He’ll understand that but will he change his ways? I doubt it because he knew that already before he came there. He’ll still act for selfish purposes. It takes more than understanding. It takes love and wisdom. A lot of people get confused with this ray, at least in Denmark. It might be different here. In Denmark we have a lot of new age people who teach a lot about love. “Love each other. Go and love each other.” You’re wondering how do I love other people. “Just go there and make them happy. Don’t think. Just do what they want. Follow your heart.” It took me a while to see the difference between the higher and lower aspects of love.

The lower is a solar plexus feeling. It’s that warm and fuzzy nice feeling of love but you really need to apply wisdom to it. Wisdom is the mental aspect of love, of this ray. DK is a Master of wisdom. The Lords of Compassion too are all on the second ray. They have very pure hearts like Mother Theresa and in the laws of wisdom they apply the mental power. They have to have the mental also and use the mental abilities in the second ray.

Second ray people have a tendency to withdraw from the world. They’d rather study and meditate and be by themselves because the world is a hard place to be. So they withdraw from the world and they sit and they meditate and if they don’t see this they can keep doing this for a real long time. What they need is to go out and do something in the real world. That’s a hard part for them to do. It’s also the ray of teachers. It’s the ray of the Christ and the Buddha.

Not every teacher you meet is on the second ray. It’s much more complex than that but it is called the ray of teachers because the world teachers are on this ray. There are lots of second ray souls on this earth right now. What do they have to do to balance their soft hearts? They need to go out and apply wisdom to what they do. It’s not about making everyone feel good, it’s about seeing a higher purpose. Maybe you even need to kick some ass sometimes. (Laughter) You do because in the end it will be better for them. How do you know that?

Audience: Wisdom, soul contact.

Anni: Wisdom and soul contact again. You need to tune-in and find the best way. It took me a real long time to learn these things. When you think about it, it’s like the parent with the kid who says, “Hey mom, I want to play on the highway. Please, please, please mom!” It’s very obvious that you’d make the child very happy by saying yes, for a very short time at least. But if you say no and explain why not, you’re really helping them much more. That’s love. That’s second ray love.

Audience: I think Jesus embodied this second ray love when He said, “As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” He didn’t say feel.

Anni: That’s right. They have to go together, they’re very closely connected. They should be. That’s what we need to learn. The second ray person coming into a store would be like this. They pick up cues right away. “There’s somebody behind me who is angry. He wants to come in front of me. Is he happy now? Look she’s smiling. What a lovely shirt you’re wearing today.” They want everyone to be happy. When they go out they wonder if they should go back and tell people more nice things to make them happy. That’s the second ray person. (Laughter)

Do you have anything to add to second ray? There are a lot of things we could say but we don’t want to take too long. There are a lot of things about astrology and the different rays and planets and symbols but you can read that stuff if you’re really in to it. Maybe JJ: will say more about it.

Okay, third ray. It’s called the ray of active intelligence. Of course there are three sub-aspects to this ray as well. I bet you know at least one of them very well because when we talk about purpose in the first and second what would be the third? You know this from the Molecular Relationship. There is purpose, there is love and what’s the opposite of love that creates the duality in the world?

Audience: Fear?

Anni: Almost. It’s light. There is light. There is active intelligence and the last one is knowledge. These people really want to understand things. They want to think and figure out things. The third ray is very closely linked with matter. This is where creation takes place. DK talked a lot about that ability in connection with this ray. It’s an important aspect of this ray that we need to adapt to things. We think that God has made everything ready for us to go take down. Tune into it and take it down and we’ll be fine. Just follow the laws of God. It’s not like that. God hasn’t figured everything out yet.

God knows he wanted to create and He knows how He wants it to be in the end but all the things in between we’re helping Him do. It’s like a big painting and the colors are still moving around. You can see them moving because God finds this little law and applies it and watches to see what happens.

We take that law into matter, into the earth, into our lives and we apply it. We see what happens and maybe it needs a little correction then there’ll come along another law. Not all laws are thought out beforehand. Some things are still changing. God doesn’t know how we’ll get there and we’re helping Him get there. We have our own free will so we can also change things by using that on earth. So it’s a game and we should have fun while doing this because God is having fun putting the puzzle together. That’s the ability to take and adapt it into our lives and take it all the way into matter on the physical plane.

Third ray people are very much into ideas and knowledge. They have broad perspectives. They can see something from everybody’s perspective. When you’re with someone who says I think this they’ll be able to see that. If someone says another view they’ll be able to see that too. They can see all around a thing. They have a broad perspective. It’s a blessing and a curse because it’s good to be able to see different things from different perspectives but it can also make it very hard for you to make a decision. What do you have to do if it’s hard to make a decision? How do you make the decision?

Audience: Soul contact.

Anni: Yes, soul contact again. Tuning in and finding the best way to do it right now. What’s the best thing to do right now. We’re not perfect and don’t get the perfect solution but we do the best we can. This taking an idea into matter, if you think about the founding fathers of the United States, they really did this. They took the idea of freedom and democracy and took it into laws and the constitution. They took it into matter and made it real. They created it on earth. That’s a third ray aspect to be able to do that. They were do-ers. They created. A chess player is also a very good example of this. They overview the whole game and see the different moves that can be made and they make a strategy. That’s a very third ray aspect.

Audience: If God doesn’t know how these things are going to turn out how can we know? If He doesn’t know ahead of time, how can we get soul contact?

Anni: God knows what the end will be and how it will be at the end, but He doesn’t know all the ways to get there because there are many different possibilities. He can see all of it at one time. We can only see a very small piece. He can see if He tries to put a new law into action how people might react and then see what happens. That’s the way that He can help us and our soul can help us.

We don’t go like this when we try to fulfill God’s purpose but sometimes we go like this and sometimes maybe backwards or around and around. There are many, many different ways. God can overview this all at one time and He knows when to apply some new laws. The soul will tell you how fill God’s purpose at the moment. So God is learning through us. He’s also experiencing. I know it’s quite a new way of looking at things and most people don’t think it’s really like that. They think God knows everything.

Third ray people can be very critical and very detached. They have to learn to apply more love, like everybody else. They’re often very sure that they’re right. When they think they’re right, they know they’re right.

Audience: When you come into life on certain rays, is that the way you stay?

Anni: I think we come into life with the rays but they change from one life to another. We have the personality ray chosen before we’re born because it’s a way of learning. We have to decide what we need to learn in different lifetimes. These rays will influence us in certain ways just like astrology. I think that’s pretty much chosen beforehand. Next lifetime they can change except the soul ray and that of the monad. Is that correct JJ:? If we come into life with the rays of the emotional, personality and soul, they can change from life to life?

JJ: That’s correct.

Audience: So we can change ourselves by concentrating on building up the weak areas?

Anni: Right. Rays are the psychology of the new age. That’s what DK says. The knowledge of the rays is the psychology of the new age and it’s really very complex. When you find your rays or think about your rays you can also see what you need to work on more closely.

Audience: So you have an emotional ray, a personality ray, a soul ray, etc and they’re all different rays?

Anni: You have your soul on one ray and that will stay stable through your lifetimes. That will not change. Your personality ray can change from lifetime to lifetime. You have a mental ray. Your mental body is vibrating on its special ray. Your emotional body is vibrating on a special ray and your physical body is vibrating on a special ray. Of course some bodies may be on the same ray. They don’t have to be different but often we do find they are vibrating on different rays.

Audience: Are the rays influenced by our astrological signs?

Anni: There is a connection. I don’t know them by heart but I’ve read that one ray will work through three signs.

There is at least one planet involved in every ray and maybe even three planets. We’ve got a list of those if you’d like to look at the list.

JJ: Planet Earth itself is vibrating on the third ray. Each of the signs corresponds to a ray, several rays actually depending on your stage of evolution.

Audience: So we, as a soul, decide to incarnate with certain rays. Are we then born under a sign with those rays or do we pick the sign to be born under and then those signs affect us?

Audience: It would be the same thing.

JJ: Well, it isn’t what comes first. Do you open the door to go outside or are you just there. It’s like there’s a certain time to be born and when you are born you’re under certain astrological influences and each one of those influences is tempered by one of the rays.

Audience: So I’m Cancer and second ray and Cancer goes with second ray so whether I chose to be Cancer or I chose to be second ray, it’s the same thing?

JJ: You may be on ray six but astrologically you may be a strong ray seven. It’s another influence. There are a lot of influences out there. DK points out that everything is complicated but if you wanted to be a doctor like Rose Marie, it takes a tremendous amount of study, right? He says you need to do the same thing in metaphysics. You need to approach it like you’re getting a doctor degree.

Audience: I’m wondering what my principle ray is. By the descriptions, the one that sounds most like me, does that mean it’s my soul ray?

Anni: Not necessarily. I’ve gone around like that and said this must be my soul ray. Today I’m really sure about my soul ray, but that’s just about it.

Audience: So it would probably be more like a composite mixture?

Anni: One way to do it is to look at the vices of the different rays because you know what your drawbacks are. You don’t need to tell everyone else but if you’re honest with yourself sometimes you can figure it out from there. That’s what I do. There’s just one thing left for me now and that’s to show you the third ray person in the store. Before I go into the store I know exactly what I want because I’ve thought about all the different possibilities. So I just enter. I’m not trying to get a personal relationship with the guy so I just enter, wait for my turn and tell him I’d like a white shirt. I explain the material and he gives it to me. I say, “Thank you very much” and walk out. I don’t even think about if that guy was happy or not. This was just a job.

Audience: I have a question. With the second ray person did you say they don’t even know what they want? Do they find something they like and buy it without a goal when they enter the store?

Anni: Yes, they do have a goal when they walk into the store. This is sort of a fun demonstration. Some of the rays would be more influenced by what they see in the store, like a sixth ray person. They go in and say, “That’s a lovely shirt you’re wearing. Can I buy this here?” They’re more impulsive. Of course they all know what they want. They all have their goals and purposes. It’s just the way we react differently. (Applause!)

Dec 29, 2003

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