McCall Gathering, 2007, Part 6

This entry is part 6 of 54 in the series McCall Gathering 2007

The Unveiling, Part 1

JJ: We are going to talk about my new book called “The Unveiling” and this is the first copy and as you can tell we put a lot of work and expense into the cover. (Shows cover with title written by a Sharpie)

Audience: I like the font! (Laughter)

JJ: It has a little bit more reading than the Immortal 1 & 2 put together and this book “The Unveiling” is about the Book of Revelations. The Book of Revelations starts off with an interesting verse, “The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto Him to show unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass and he sent and signified it by His angel unto his servant John.”

There are several interesting things in this statement and first of all it calls it the revelation of Jesus Christ. The word “revelation” comes from Apokalypsis which is interpreted a number of different ways but it derives from another Greek word, Apokalypto which means to take the cover off of something, to unveil it. A handful of translators have come up with the idea that it really should be translated as “the unveiling.” From my study of the word that is actually the closest to the translation into English from the Greek Apokalypsis. What we are told in the very first verse, the unveiling of Jesus Christ to show unto his servants things, which must shortly come to pass. Must shortly come to pass, when was this written?

Audience: 2000 years ago.

JJ: 2000 years ago, that would be like me saying, I am going to write this prophecy about things that will shortly come to pass and here it is 2007 and we are clear up to 4000 and nothing has happened yet. Do you think the people in the year 4000 are going to get an accurate interpretation of a prophecy we make in 2007?

Audience Sharón: If you look at the time cycles for each 2,160 years and then you go through each time cycle that change within each sign, shortly does not necessarily mean tomorrow, a hundred or two hundred years shortly means after about 2,160 years.

JJ: Sharón, I am disappointed in you to hear a fundamentalist interpretation coming out of your mouth. (Laughter) Because she is about as far away from a fundamentalist as there is. But if you say this to fundamentalist like a Christian, they will say well a day with God is like a thousand years and that is kind of short. But yes by the normal way of looking at this if this is a prophecy of events and it is inspired then we have to come with something to explain what it is that “this will shortly come to pass.” Also at the end of the book Jesus is speaking and He says, “Behold I come quickly.” I am going to come quickly on this white horse that is going to come down out of the sky; I come quickly.

Well it is 2000 years I guess if a day to God is a thousand years and if age if the universe is billions of years old than a couple thousand years is not that much. But by normal standards 2000 years is not really quick.

Suppose some prophet says California is going to sink into the sea. Somebody said that in 1978 and a lot people moved to Idaho around that time, remember the song that said, “Tie up your boat in Idaho?” It was a popular song because this physic had made a prediction that California was going to sink into the sea and the shoreline was going to be up here in Idaho.

After about 5 years passed, California did not sink and then people said it has been too long now so it must have been a false prophecy. And it only took about 3-5 years before everybody forgot about the prediction but could you imagine California sinking into the sea in the year 4000 and they said, ah, it shortly came to pass and it didn’t take too long, it only took 2000 years!

So is it possible there is a different meaning for “shortly” here, what does it mean, that things will shortly come to pass? First of all what are some of the things that are supposed happen in here?

We are told there is going to a great fiery star descend from the skies land in the oceans and kill 1/3 of the life in the oceans. Has that happened yet? No I have not seen that happen yet. There is going to be an army of 2 hundred million men descend on Jerusalem and have the battle of Armageddon there. That has not happened. Two witnesses are supposed go prophesy in Jerusalem and a beastly character is going to rise up like Hitler and he will come against them and kill them and their dead bodies will lay in the streets for three and half days. After the three and half days they will rise up and there will be a great earthquake and everyone will be terrified and every people nation and tongue shall see these two witnesses rise up and great fear will fall upon those who have beheld them. That has not happened. It would certainly make the news if two guys got killed and lay in the streets for three days and everybody was happy and sent gifts to each other because their dead bodies were laying in the street because it says that two witnesses plagued the people of the earth and they were so happy to see them dead.

When Christians read this they say this has got to happen in our time because it says all the people of the nations were able to see their dead bodies laying in the streets and that could not happen in the days of John but with TV and the internet we could see this today. But then that presents a bit of a problem. We have this clearly detailed prophecy. So if some Hitler type killed these two and they were laying in the streets and everybody was celebrating and sending gifts to each other that these guys were finally out of the way and dead and they did not even suffer their dead bodies to be buried it said because they were televising them for all the world for all to see and everyone was rejoicing that they were dead wouldn’t somebody say, “hey this sounds like it could be the witnesses in revelation and that means they are going to rise up after three and half days.” People would start to wait and see boy that would convert everybody when they rose from the dead, would it not?

And how about this beast? It is supposed to be a terrible beast and antichrist rise up and he is going to put like a computer chip in everyone’s hand, some type of mark in everyone’s right hand or their forehead and they will have to do exactly what this dictator says and this dictator is going to be so bad he is going to make Hitler look like Cinderella. This guy is going to be a real bad guy, and he is going to control the whole world and we are all going to get his mark and we all are going to do what he says and he is even going to be so bad he is going to challenge Jesus when he sees him come down on that white horse.

He is not going to put up much of a fight because Jesus is going to zap him and he is going to evaporate along with all the armies and Jesus is going to call the fouls of the air to come and feast on the flesh of all the captains and the horses. As a matter of fact it says they, 200 million men, will all be on horses. That is kind of weird is it not? Well maybe he was talking about tanks and stuff but John just called them horses and all this is supposed to shortly come to pass.

How do we explain that word shortly getting in there? The Christian world looks at this and says that word shortly cannot interfere with out interpretation so there is lots of ways to interpret shortly. In other words, when these events start to happen it is all going to happen in a short time is one way to look at it or a day with God is like a thousand years and what’s a couple thousand years that is short in God’s mind and Jesus says I come quickly, and that could be that when he comes, he is just going to come really fast.

So there are ways around this but let’s look at it just the way it reads, these things will shortly come to pass. Actually it means exactly what it says, what things and who, who is the book of revelations written to? I read it to you and does anybody remember?

Audience Joshua: The Disciples.

JJ: Joshua you did great! It was written to the servants of God. And whom will it come shortly to pass for?

Audience: The servants of God.

JJ: Everything in here is going to come shortly to pass to the disciples. Not to everybody else but to the disciples. Then it says something interesting here, it says, “Blessed is he that reads and hears the words of this prophecy, and keeps those things which are written therein, for the time is at hand.” What time is at hand? The time for everything in this book to come to pass shortly! In other words, the time, is at hand, but for whom? The disciples who read and keep within their heart and their minds the words of this prophesy. They are the ones who will be blessed.

Well that is really weird because when you read it in the normal sense there is no blessing in the book. I mean a mountain coming out of heaven killing all the fish, fires coming down, hail storms, all kinds of destruction and at one point one third of the men on the earth are killed with this great army, and the beast rising up. Where is the stuff that blesses everybody? There is nothing in there to bless anybody. All it is, is stuff that it scares the daylights out of you – if you believe it. You read the whole thing and you think this is probably going to happen soon because it has been 2000 years and it cannot go on much longer before soon is not soon anymore.

Audience: We are in the latter days.

JJ: It seems so. Let’s pick a random verse from the book of revelation and see how it applies. (JJ Opens to a random selection and reads:)

All they that dwell upon the earth shall worship him the beast whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world. This beast exercised all the power of the first beast before him and causes the earth and them which dwell in to worship the beast whose deadly wound is healed and he does great wonders and then it says he causes all rich and poor to receive his mark on the right hand or forehead and if they don’t receive it the they will be killed.

Is that anything to be happy about? No, let’s just pick something else at random here.

“And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

“And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

“And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

“For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?” Rev 6:12-17

Would I be able to stand if every mountain and island are moving out of their place? Then there will be a great earthquake, the stars will shake and move the moon will turn blood and the sun will not give it’s light! What is there to look forward to? How can I be blessed by reading this book? How is that possible?

Let me tell you how it is possible, the book is not about what everybody thinks it is about.

The Mayans talked about 25,000 year cycles.

JJ: My feeling about 2012 is that it is a point taking us into the Age of Aquarius. I don’t think there is anything magical with 2012 over 2011.  From what I understand it was the end of their calendar and they saw this as the end of an age rather than the end of the world.  It could be an intense time period.  Let me see.  It is now 2007… we could have some interesting things happen by that time.  I see a larger turning point occurring around 2025-2030, which I see as an intense period of change.

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McCall Gathering, 2007, Part 5

This entry is part 5 of 54 in the series McCall Gathering 2007

Bureaucrats

James Wong:
I felt that maybe you were leading up to a call to action just a minute ago and I wanted to continue that thought that the challenge today is that disciples must recognize good verses evil and the see the changes that must take place and work toward those changes. What are some examples of what we should work toward today?

JJ: Let’s talk about one that most of us would agree with. Most of agree that we are taxed too much. At times in the past it cost up to 80% of the money in administration to handle our welfare. In other words, it cost several dollars to give away one dollar. Now that’s just totally ridiculous. No wonder our taxes are so high.

Now when McGovern ran against Nixon he had the idea of bypassing administration costs and suggested just sending everyone a check in the mail. He was just laughed out of existence, but I thought that was the best idea that a Democrat had for a long time. I was really beside myself in deciding to vote for Nixon or McGovern. I thought he had a good idea as far as reducing administrative costs go. But he got laughed at and Nixon won 49 states to one, if I recall correctly, and it was largely because of this one suggestion from McGovern.

It wasn’t a good idea for administering welfare, but it was a good one for escaping overhead. Anything is better than spending three or four dollars to give away one. I think we are a little more efficient now but there is still a lot of waste. Have you heard anything Sharón?

Sharón: No. I was working for a company that trains hospital staff to prescreen people for Medicaid and other government programs and it still takes boo coos in dollars to give away one.

JJ: Yeah, it’s really silly. One of the reasons that McGovern wasn’t supported, even by many fellow Democrats, is that his plan would have taken away many bureaucrats’ jobs, but I thought the idea was better than anything Nixon had for a welfare solution.

That’s one thing that everyone can agree on – that we have this tremendous bureaucracy, but then when anyone tries to change or trim it, the bureaucracy raises its head for they may lose their jobs or have a diminishment in pay or authority. They may not be able to hire as many and increase their authority. There’s lots of things at play.

What happens is there is tremendous force applied to anyone who wants to change anything and anyone who wants to make things more efficient is made to look like the bad guy. The bureaucracy and the media comes down hard on anyone who wants to make any change for the better.

There is so much positive change that could be made in the way money is spent that could lower our taxes and we would all agree on the surface that this is good; but when someone actually tries to do it, he is portrayed as the bad guy.

Social Security is another good example. If people are allowed to invest their own money in the stock market or gold and if it goes up over a period of years we could have a larger retirement than the present system. But anyone who wants to give people the choice of having control over their own money is again called the bad guy.

Those who promote the flat tax or talk of doing away with the IRS are often attacked. Representative George Hansen from Idaho wrote a book on changing the IRS and pointed out a lot of its flaws. It wasn’t long after he circulated this book that the bureaucrats came after him and trumped up charges against the poor guy and put him in jail. They got him for writing some checks before the money was in the bank even though the money was in place when the check was cleared. Almost everyone has done that one time or another. They call that check kiting and they put him in jail for about four years over that.

They not only did that but they tortured him. They tried to poison him several times. They wouldn’t give him shoes that fit. When he came out he had no toenails on his feet because of the small shoes he had to wear. He had scabs all over his body and his teeth were falling out. They tried to kill him several times as the Beast wanted that guy dead. He’s out of jail now but he’s near death and this was probably why they let him go. He would like to do something again to fight the system, but he doesn’t have the strength.

If you look up George Hansen on the Internet you can read his story. (Note: Go to: http://www.constitution.org/ghansen/conghansen.htm
Also: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=22130)

The Beast came after George and portrayed him as evil even though he had a heart of gold.

The interesting thing about the Aquarian Age we are entering is there are always forces trying to take us backwards, but fortunately there is a law called the Dominating Good. In every comic book you learn that good is supposed to dominate over evil and that’s really a true principle. That which is good is a little stronger than that which pulls us backward into the old less efficient way of doing things.

Any why is good stronger? It is because the intelligence of humanity recognizes that which is good is better than that which is not good. For instance humanity, as a whole, recognizes that the free countries have a better system than the Taliban. Average humanity can see this. No slavery today is better than slavery. We can see that certain portions of progress are better than the old way of doing things.

That is why good dominates. Good dominates because it is supported by intelligence and, even though we have our illusions, some intelligence comes to the surface. When illusion and selfishness are stripped away we will always choose that which is good.

We will progress into the Aquarian Age, and it will be an age where there will be an increase in brotherhood, an increase in group consciousness, an increase in awareness, an increase in sensitivity, an increase in love and especially service.

As we said the key word for the Aquarian Age is service. We will seek to render service and will receive the appropriate recompense for that service. This will not be a service where we just serve and sacrifice, but it will be intelligent sacrifice, intelligent service with a recognition that there is such a thing as karma, that we are going to get back that which we have given. We will give intelligently and serve intelligently.

Now the interesting thing about the coming Age of Aquarius is the cycles involved. Each age lasts about 2160 years so we haven’t had an Age of Aquarius for about 25,000 years.

But there are larger cycles. Each one of the 25,000 year cycles is influenced by one of the signs. Now we are entering the first Age of Aquarius in 25,000 years but this coming age is also the beginning of a greater cycle of Aquarius. In other words, this next 25,000 years we will be in a greater cycle of Aquarius that only happens once every 300,000 years.

Audience: Does this have anything to do with 2012?

JJ No, it doesn’t have anything to do with that date. So the next 2160 years will be an Age of Aquarius with a greater age which is a rare occurrence. So because we have Aquarius within Aquarius this makes the energies much stronger than the last Aquarian Age. It will be a quintessential Aquarian Age.

The coming Aquarian energies are so strong that if we use them correctly we can create positive change as has not happened since the beginning of history, or even prehistory. We haven’t had an age like this since Atlantis.

Any Questions?

Audience: The Mayas talked about 25,000 year cycles.

JJ: My feeling about 2012 is that it is a point taking us into the Age of Aquarius. I don’t think there is anything magical with 2012 over 2011. From what I understand it was the end of their calendar and they saw this as the end of an age rather than the end of the world. It could be an intense time period. Let me see. It is now 2007… we could have some interesting things happen by that time. I see a larger turning point occurring around 2025-2030, which I see as an intense period of change.

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666

Dec 15, 1998

666

If I were a representative of the Beast I would not be teaching you here, but would set myself up as the ultimate authority and would discourage your learning and thought while at the same time proclaim I am for free thought, learning and an open mind.

I see from your posts today that some of you have been subject to beastly leaders in the past. The sign of such a group is this. When you are in the group you just get a sense that you need to only give the answers that the leader wants to hear. If you give otherwise you will be “frowned” upon.

In the old days you were imprisoned or killed for questioning. Fortunately the Constitution that wounded the Beast plus the slow progress we have made in the rule of law gives us some protection in this age.

Even though standard numerology is not the key we are looking for I was looking forward to someone going into it. It definitely gives an additional depth and view of the various levels of interpretation available.

Glad to hear that some of you are looking into Strong’s Concordance. If you intelligently use this you can become a better translator than the scholars. Why? Because people on this forum have more common sense than most scholars.

Regular bookstores would have to special order this but almost all Christian bookstores have it. If you visit one they may tell you that Young’s or another one is just as good, but they are not. Strong’s has been the standard for many years. You can just imagine the work it took to create with no computer.

Then too you can order it from Amazon.

I have a computer program that’s supposed to have Strong’s on it, but they have edited it so much of the good stuff is taken out.

Another tool you may want if you desire to do research in the original language is Concordant New Testament. They also have about half of the Old Testament translated. Unlike regular Bibles, that are translated for easy reading, this version is painstakingly literally translated without regard to how it reads. Consequently, there is very little bias in it.

I’m surprised the publishers have not turned into New Agers.

You can order HERE

The text of the Concordant New Testament can be found here:

http://concordant.org/version/literal-new-testament-online/

It is an interesting fact that a goal of the Brotherhood, in addition to promoting that which is good, is to take “evil” to a higher level. In the old days it was only mildly “evil” to kill a slave. Now here in Idaho if you kill as Jack Rabbit you are more “evil” than was the guy who killed his slave in the past. In other words, evil has been taken to a higher level.

In the free world (which is now the totality of the second beast) the evil beast has been taken to a higher level. When we offend the Beast now we just lose our job or get thrown out of something whereas in the image of the Beast (the non free world) they are still literally killed.

Dave asks: Are we even in this group subject to the Beast? Probably to some extent we all are. The reason we have spent so much time on the Beast is to make us aware of that which holds us back from the full truth. “Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.”

I take some risk in teaching you the truth about the Beast. Some may go the other extreme and feel they need to challenge me on everything.

One who has freed himself from the authority of the Beast however will test all teachers including myself with the God within, but once a teacher’s words have passed that test a challenging attitude becomes unnecessary. Nevertheless, never get lazy – always check all things through the soul and then question when necessary.

One of the problems with students is that when they go out of alignment with the soul they often think their teacher has gone astray while they believe they have now passed beyond their teacher. Jesus had this problem with the disciples of old to some extent and had to set them straight several times by reminding them to look within to discover the truth anew. All but Judas were able to do this. He refused to look within and his ego made him soar in his mind even higher than his Lord.

Now what could 666 possibly have to do with being under the authority of the Beast? You must also read the scripture very carefully. Notice in verse 17 that those who have the mark bear “the number of his name?”

Now the Christian world is waiting for some great dictator to arise with the number 666 tattooed on his head or something like that, but here we are told that the billions among the masses bear the number themselves? How could they do that?

Hint: What chakra does the Beast use to maintain his control?

Hint

The beast does not work through the Heart Center for he cannot comprehend spiritual love.

Solar Hint

Glenys and Kyle were on the right track by thinking Solar Plexus.

What could this have to do with the number 6 or 666?

Hint: The age of Pisces is also involved.

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The Milgram Experiment

Dec 14, 1998

The Milgram Experiment

A while back Dateline had a special on the power of Authority.

They started the show by showing an old clip from Candid Camera. In this clip the victim of the show entered an elevator with about six other people in it. The funny thing was that the other six (who worked with Candid Camera) were told to face different directions at different times.

Now normally when you are in an elevator, you face the door; but this group all faced the inside panel with their backs toward the door. Even though this was very odd the victim did not want to be different so he turned with his back toward the door. Then they showed several clips of the people in the elevator and every time the group turned, the victim turned with them.

It seemed kind of funny and I’m sure the Candid Camera audience got a good laugh out of it, but the reality behind this is the scariest human trait we possess. That is, most of mankind will follow the leader or group even if it makes no sense or if it goes against every moral teaching they have ever been taught.

The second part of the feature had an experiment done with college students. Again they had an unsuspecting victim participating with a group of about a half dozen that knew what was going on. The group was shown a set of four lines and of the four there were two of equal length. They were then asked to pick the two lines that were equal. They showed the lines on TV and it was obvious which two were the correct match.

The next thing they did was to have the planted students all give the same wrong match. Then when it became the victim’s turn you could tell he began to doubt what his eyes and reasoning were telling him. Some of the victims gave the right answer for a round or two but one by one each victim gave in and started giving the wrong answer as the right answer, even though he knew within himself that it was wrong.

The interesting thing about watching their faces on TV was that they all looked a little depressed when they started knowingly giving the wrong answers as right answers. It was almost like the poor kids were selling their souls.

Finally, they showed the most alarming experiment of all authority which was conducted by Stanley Milgram way back in the sixties.

Milgram was curious about how a group of apparently normal people like the Germans could have participated in the Nazi atrocities that were against every moral teaching that they ever believed in. Their excuse was always the same: “I was just following orders.”

Below is a description of the experiment:

The subjects in the experiment were not aware that they were the ones being studied, but thought that they were performing experiments on other subjects to test their compliance through the administering of electric shocks.

When the subjects asked whether increased shocks should be given he/she was verbally encouraged to continue. Sixty-five percent of the subjects obeyed orders to punish the learner to the very end of the 450-volt scale! No subject stopped before reaching 300 volts which is deadly!

At times, the worried subjects questioned the experimenter, asking who was responsible for any harmful effects resulting from shocking the learner at such a high level. Upon receiving the answer that the experimenter assumed full responsibility, subjects seemed to accept the response and continue shocking, even though some were obviously extremely uncomfortable in doing so.

What was interesting about watching this on Dateline was that when the subject hit the high voltage the pretended victim screamed like crazy and even said he had a bad heart and that the experiment was killing him.

The subject then turned to the authority as if asking what to do and the authority told him to continue. If the subject seemed to doubt the authority told him that he would take responsibility.

Then the subject continued to shock the supposed victim past 300 volts until he went silent. This indicated the victim was either unconscious or dead. Still the subject did not cease. He continued to increase the voltage clear up to 450 which would mean that if the victim was not dead yet this would surely kill him.

The interesting thing is that if this was a real happening, the subject would not only have killed another human being which was against every teaching that he believed in, but he would have also been brought up on murder charges. It is scary that even this possibility did not deter the subject from following authority.

The funny thing about these experiments is that the scientists predicted that only one out of a thousand would follow an authority to shock up to 450 volts, but 65% went that far and 100% of the subjects went up to 300 volts, which is still enough to kill.

Thus we have a great example of the true mark of the Beast on the right hand – the willingness to follow blind authority no matter what the consequences.

The interesting thing is that very few people know themselves well enough to know whether or not they would administer the 300 or more volts to an innocent brother. Most would think that they would never do such a thing, but are they right? Remember, 100% of those in the experiment yielded to the authority.

Even more sinister is the mark in the forehead. Remember the philosophy of Big Brother in the novel 1984? It was not enough that people did as they were told. In addition to this it was demanded that they also love Big Brother and totally embrace everything he stood for in their belief system. If someone was caught having independent thought he was not executed immediately. First he had to be brainwashed into loving Big Brother and when the victim demonstrated that he was willing to accept an obvious falsehood from Big Brother with Love, then he was shot, but not before.

Now we must remember that over half of the world’s population is under the direct obvious control of some Big Brother type of government. For these inhabitants there is often no way for immediate escape from the mark of the Beast. They have to at least pretend to go along or they will not be able to get work, will not be able to buy or sell and may wind up executed.

It’s a little different in the Free World. We do not have to receive the mark here; instead, we embrace it by our own free will, just as do the subjects in the Milgram experiment. They were free. They could have gotten up any moment and left, but they did not.

Kyle said that perhaps religion administers the mark of the Beast in the free world. Yes, this is true as shown by Jonestown, Heavens Gate and your fanatical neighbor down the street, but this is only part of the mark.

The mark is demonstrated before us right now on TV by the Democrats and Republicans in the impeachment proceedings (written during the Clinton impeachment). Both sides are going along with group thought. I think out of the 435 Representatives only one Republican and no Democrats defied their party thoughtform and authoritative leaders on the last Impeachment vote.

One of about 435 going against accepted authorities. That’s how powerful the Beast is! It doesn’t matter to the Beast if you are Republican or Democrat, or even which is closer to the truth. What matters is control.

The question we need to ask ourselves is: “Would I be strong enough to be one out of the 435?”

Would we have been strong enough as an early Christian to refuse to acknowledge Caesar as God and allow ourselves to be fed to lions?

Putting religion aside you have to admire these followers of Christ who gave their lives to defy the Beast. Their lives were not in vain, for they paved the way to the wounding of the Beast. Now finally we are in a point in time and space where the whole beast will be destroyed, but before we can destroy such an enemy we must know and understand what it is and how it functions.

The beast, as a whole, is not a country or anything physical, but is blind authority and is demonstrated by the “blind following the blind.”

The beast is destroyed by opening the eyes of the blind, and this we shall do with power and great glory, but first we must open our own eyes to the one authority – the Spirit of God within us.

Next we shall attack the greatest, most discussed mystery of the whole Bible -the number of the Beast. Everything you have learned so far has just been preparation to understand this mystery.

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the Beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the Beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Rev 13:17 -18

So what is the meaning of the 666?

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Marked Authority

Dec 12, 1998

Marked Authority

The forehead signifies thought or thinking and the right hand signifies labor. Now remember the Beast itself is blind authority.

Now with these hints let’s see who can put the picture together for us.

How does one receive the mark in the forehead and right hand and how can one escape the mark, or is it even possible?

Here’s my two cents worth on the mark:

And he had power to give life unto the image of the Beast, that the image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the Beast, or the number of his name. Rev 13:15-16

Notice that it was not the second Beast (the United States) that gave the mark but the image of the Beast.

To refresh you mind let me quote from a previous article what the “image” is:

The United States made an image to the Beast by supporting and often helping to create governments on the earth pattered after the blind authority of Rome and the other ancient kingdoms. The most popular of them was Communism. The Bolshevik Revolution that established the Communist regime in Russia was financed right out of the United States by wealthy men who saw a great opportunity in Marx’s philosophy. If you ever read Animal Farm you can understand.

The USSR was just a part of the Image of the Beast. Hitler also received much start up capital from the United States and Europe (which adopted free governments). Then we also created and financed other dictators like Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Communist China and many other authoritarian governments.

Thus instead of enjoying a free society The United States and the Free World has reincarnated the Roman empire by supporting this deadly image throughout the world.

This image of the Beast in the present time of our history does cause all within its reach to receive a mark in their right hand or their foreheads. The right hand signifies labor. One with a mark in the right hand obeys and labors for the Beast without questioning.

The mark in the forehead signifies something even beyond action. It signifies thought. The Beast wants you to do more than obey. It wants you to think as you are told to think in the process.

Happiness consists in accepting and adapting to the things you cannot presently change yet proceeding with a firm belief that you can eventually change all things for your good and acting accordingly.

JJ

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Image of the Beast

Dec 10, 1998

Image of the Beast

Now let’s finish off that beast.

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the Beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the Beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the Beast, that the image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the Beast, or the number of his name. Rev 13:11-17

Question: What is the image of the Beast and what is the Mark in the forehead or right hand?

Hint: It is not the bar code.

All we have discussed about the scriptures, the Beast etc. was for the purpose of understanding the mark and the number. To understand the mark you must understand the core meaning of all we have talked about.

You are all right in the fact that the mark could externalize as a microchip, a tattoo, a bar code etc. But the reality is that the mark is already here. That is the grand realization that keeps the Christian world in illusion and prevents them from removing the mark from their forehead.

Just as Christ came the first time and only 120 people out of the whole world realized it so has in this age the Beast, the mark and the number also arrived and still has people looking for it.

While everyone is brewing over the mark of the Beast let’s talk about the “image of the Beast.”

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the Beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an im•age to the Beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the Beast, that the image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast should be killed. Rev 13:14-15

Notice that this second beast that we identified as the United States does miracles (plural) in the sight of the first beast. In other words, even though the Beast was wounded by the formation of a free democratic society and constitution, its deadly wound was healed and it now watches on as the second beast does miracles.

What are the miracles performed by this second beast that has “two horns like a lamb” and represents much of what is good about the Christ energy? We’ve already talked about one miracle -the atomic bomb, but there are many others. From this country came the light bulb, the airplane, the Tesla coil, mass production, the Moon landing, the computer chip, the internet, computers, and hundreds of other miraculous introductions to the new age.

The beast watches on as he gains strength. He is like the con man who has found a gifted kid who has developed a scheme to beat the odds at Las Vegas. If he can control the kid he can beat the system. This is the way the first beast (blind authority) works through the second beast (the United States).

People are deceived by these miracles because it seems as if they will only be used for the good of humanity when in the end they are placed in the hands of strong authority that seems impossible to defy. Look what happens, for instance, when someone comes up with a better engine or carburetor. The inventor is either bought out and his work buried, or he is sued out of existence.

Now the verse tells us of an interesting occurrence that has all the Bible readers in the world looking for another Hitler to show up. We are told that the second beast initiates a plan “saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the Beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.” Now overall, the United States seems like a good country so just when could it have ever made an image of the Beast?

Actually, this “Image of the Beast,” is the truth behind the conspiracy theories circulating throughout the world. Nevertheless, we shall go by what is fairly well documented. The United States made an image to the Beast by supporting and often helping to create governments on the earth patterned after the blind authority of Rome and the other ancient kingdoms. The most popular of them is Communism. The Bolshevik Revolution that established the Communist regime in Russia was financed right out of the United States by wealthy men who saw a great opportunity in Marx’s philosophy. If you ever read Animal Farm you can understand.

The idea was to create a slave system where the workers would labor for almost nothing and be under the complete control of the state. If this could be pulled off by big money then they could not only gain even greater riches through such a system, but also greater power. Once a person gets all the money he can spend, about the only thing that interests him after this is power. And the lust for power was the impetus behind the creation of the image of the Beast.

The only thing that has saved us from complete communist control of the world is that the Soviet Union turned out to be a financial disaster, and it fell similar to the description of the fall of Babylon as prophesied. “And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, thus with violence, shall the great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.” Rev 18:21.

We are told that in “one hour is she made desolate.” There is more to this scripture, but it is a good description of the quick fall of the Communist Block.

The USSR was just a part of the Image of the Beast. Hitler also received much start up capital from the United States and Europe (which adopted free governments). Then we also created and financed other dictators like Noriega, Saddam Hussein, communist China, and many other authoritarian governments.

We create an image to the Beast and then when it turns on us like a lion, bear or leopard, we have to fight it and destroy it. After this scenario we then start the process anew and create other parts to the image of the Beast making sure the Beast is always alive and well.

A book could be written about all the parts of the Beast we have financed and maintained since the foundation of this country. It’s as if we feel uncomfortable not having a threat to our existence so we must always create one. Now we are building up the Chinese by selling them missile technology so they can rattle a few bombs our direction.

A short time ago Jimmy Carter went to North Korea and told them that if they will be nice and promise to use nuclear energy for peace we will give them the technology and parts to build reactors. Of course they promised to be nice. We believe them, don’t we?

The scripture continues: “And he had power to give life unto the image of the Beast, that the image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast should be killed.” Rev 13:15

In all of these countries if you do not worship (kiss up to) the powers that be, you will be killed. The people of Iraq, for instance, are terrified to speak against Hussein. A while back he had a meeting. one person just expressed some concern and Saddham shot him on the spot.

We are opening up trade now with Vietnam, which is still under strict control of the Beast. Then there are numerous central and South American Countries we still support and aid who do not allow free speech or enterprise.

It is obvious that in some countries blind authority is alive and well, but the image of the Beast also exists in the so-called free countries, but on more subtle levels as we discussed earlier.

The United Nations has potential to become a great image of the Beast, but humanity has it within their power to direct the organization toward a good end. It is far from perfect, but it does not yet have the power of the Beast. It does, however, assist in some cases to feed the image of the Beast, or the little dictators throughout the world.

Hopefully this will give you food for thought. Continue pondering and posting on the Mark of the Beast.

Question: What is the difference between the mark on the forehead and the mark on the right hand?

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The Beast and the Dragon

27 Nov 1998

The Beast and the Dragon

Congratulations! We have finally finished verse 1; however, we will return and expand on certain points in it from time to time.

Moving on here – verse two reads as follows:

Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat (throne), and great authority.

Question: What is the meaning of the three animals? Who is the dragon and how does the dragon grant authority and power?

I am pleased to see that we have more lurkers responding. I’m not sure if lurker is the right word here. Maybe we should call them watchers or something like that, but whatever you like to be called, we are all glad to hear from you.

We are probably fortunate that we have not scared more away by examining the Bible. I am sure that many Spiritweb members are suspect of anyone quoting scripture. For this reason I was hesitant to start dissecting the Beast in New Age territory, but I think the time of synthesis of the New Age and the Old Age is at hand.

28 Nov 1998

The Beast and the Dragon Continued

All the comments on the leopard, the lion and the bear is useful in contemplation to understand the workings of the beast. In addition to this, Garrett came up with the idea that astrology may be a key to interpreting this book. There is more to this idea than he supposed.

The Apostle John had knowledge of Astrology when he wrote the book, and astrological symbols are rampant throughout the whole book of Revelations. Astrological interpretation is a large part of one of the levels of interpretation, and some savvy astrologers have made an attempt at this and have come up with some interesting material. However, we shall not go into this unless it applies to our level.

Let’s first look at these three beasts or animals: the leopard, the lion and the bear, plus the dragon who gives them power. What do they have in common? The one thing they have in common is that they are all deadly and dangerous and capable of tearing the average man to shreds. Their very presence can put stark terror into the hearts of men. We are aware of the three beasts and have heard mythological stories about the dragon, but one thing is sure. If the leopard, the lion or the bear is sitting at a peaceful rest in our presence, we want to be quiet as a mouse and not do ANYTHING to disturb them.

The beast as a whole had the appearance of a leopard. All leopards are females. The male of the species is called the panther. The symbolism of the leopard being female is important. The female is more polarized on the emotional side than the male. The beast uses emotions, rather than the mind, for its control through the implementation of fear.

The leopard hunts in the dark and strikes with greater power, ferocity, and speed than any other cat. The prey is often asleep with eyes closed when attacked. The Beast hunts out those who defy its authority and seeks them out in the dark when they are sleeping and not expecting attack.

Just like the “leopard cannot change its spots,” neither can the beast. It must always remain true to character.

Next we are told the Beast had “the mouth of a lion.” As we stated earlier, the lion is called the King of Beasts, therefore, the mouth of a lion would be the mouth of a king. In other words, the beast speaks through those who have established themselves as a kingly authority over their fellowmen. This could be an actual king or queen, a revered political leader, a government appointee, a leader of some organization, a religious leader, a cult leader or even your autocratic boss.

The lion is not an animal you want to get angry. When it lets out a roar it strikes terror in the hearts of all who hear. The early Christians who did not accept the authority of the Beast were fed to lions and devoured by them. We should keep in mind, however, that the Prophet Daniel was thrown to the lions, and by faith in God he was delivered from their power.

The Beast had the feet of a bear. The beast will crush under foot anyone who gets in its way. When a bear comes walking in your direction, the smartest thing to do would be to get out of its way. Or we can say that when the beast of authority comes in our direction, the smart thing would seem to be to not challenge it, but just get out of its way.

“… and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat (throne), and great authority.”

Rob commented that the Dragon is a symbol of the Dark Brothers, but it goes deeper than that. In the previous chapter (Rev 12:3) we are told that the Dragon itself has seven heads, so we see that the Beast is like an image we have made to resemble the Dragon. In the days of Moses the blasphemy against God was to make an image (like the golden calf) that represented God. This is what the Dragon does. He makes images or illusions of the real thing.

The Dragon itself has no power over man, but can only establish power through illusion. So he waits and waits until man makes an image of him, and piece by piece throughout history he endows the image with “power, a throne and great authority.” Finally after about 6,000 years from the last Adam (remember there are many Adams), the image of the Dragon is nearly complete.

We humans, by the desire of our egos, as John mentioned, have created a monster out of nothing real. That pleases this great negative life form, which is his only form of incarnation on this planet.

Chapter 12 tells us the Dragon is a serpent and is red. This gives us a clue to additional insights. First, red is the color of blood and the Bible says that the “blood is life.” Interestingly, the serpent is also a symbol of life. The ancients teach of a fiery Serpent at the base of the spine which is the foundation fire of all life in our body. This is also called the Kundalini energy. Thus the power the Serpent seems to grant to the Beast is power over life and death. This gives the beast its tremendous illusionary authority over mankind. If the beast has power to take your life you would want to keep on its good side.

Another interesting thing about the serpent fire at the base of the spine is that soul contact leads to the serpent energy in the base of the spine uncoiling, and it virtually disappears. Then a tremendous energy lifts up through all your centers uniting heaven and earth within you. In other words, when the reality behind the serpent is revealed, your god-like powers are restored and the illusion of the Dragon is no more. The dispelling of the illusion of the Dragon will proceed slowly at first on an individual basis, but the time will come when the Kundalini of the whole planet will be raised and the beast will be destroyed as if by fire.

There is also great symbolism in the story of the Serpent who led Adam and Eve away from the tree of Life by deception. As soon as we see through the deception fostered by the beast, the Tree of Life again becomes available to us. We will discover that we left the Tree of Life — the Tree of Life did not leave us.

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Finishing Verse One

Nov 27, 1998

Finishing Verse One

LeLona wrote a good summary so far as follows:

“Now, let me see if I have this straight.

“Rev. 13:1: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

“The sea is people, us.

“The beast is unjust, unearned, blind authority.

“Seven heads: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and now many authority figures of the world under numerous kingdoms as one head.

“Ten Horns: North America; Central & South America; United Kingdom; Europe; Russia + neighbors; Africa; India; China and Taiwan; Japan and Korea; The Middle East.

“The ten crowns are: Roman Catholic Church; Eastern Orthodox Church; Protestant religions; Judaism; Islam; Shinto, Taoist; Confucian; Buddhist and Hindu.

“The names of blasphemy: His/Her Royal Majesty; His/Her Excellency; Holy Father; King of Kings, etc.

“The purpose of finding out about the beast: ‘the beast is really us, humanity as a whole, who is having difficulty leaving the old form and moving on to the kingdom of God. We (the sea of people) create the beast mainly by the power of our combined desire to be ruled by what we feel from the solar plexus rather than what we think from the heart and mind.

“Is that about it in a nutshell?”

That’s very good. You’ve been paying attention. We just need to elaborate a little on the names of blasphemy. As indicated in Glenys’ posting, the great name of blasphemy was that the Emperor Caesar went beyond Augustus, to being called Lord, and being deified as a God. Once a year each citizen had to appear before authorities and acknowledge that Caesar was virtually God. Once one did this then he could go worship according to his choice, undisturbed. But if one put Jesus or some other version of God above Caesar, then he was seen as a danger to the state and was usually punished.

The most blasphemous name on the beast is when a flesh and blood man like the rest of us is called and worshiped as a God. It is true that even Jesus said that men are Gods (John 10:34), but he was speaking of God in all of us with equality whether they be great and small. Caesar was declared God as one who was special and unique among men. Caesar demanded to be worshipped and it is blasphemy for one man to worship another man, or even seeing another person as having more rights than he himself possesses.

The interesting thing about the emperors of Rome is that it was not the government who initiated the idea of calling the emperor a God, but it was the people. The early emperors thought it was a silly thing for the people to do. Eventually they were called God long enough and with enough repetition that they began to believe it. The emperors could also see the idea would secure more political power.

One does not need to go to the extreme of calling himself a God to his fellow men and women to have a name of blasphemy, but any name that brings you a reverential respect takes away from the glory that belongs to God alone. As I mentioned earlier Jesus was very cautious about not taking away from the respect due God alone.

I’ll repeat an earlier example:

A man addressed Jesus as “good master.” To this he responded: “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God.” Matt 19:16-17 Jesus did not even want to take the chance of looking too “good” to his followers, but now the mindless followers think it is blasphemy to call Him anything less than the goodest, most perfect creator God of the universe.

Here is another example:

But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, and love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Matt 23: 5-14

Isn’t it interesting how clearly Jesus tried to teach the principle of not using a name or title that exalts one person above another because “ye are all brethren.” The Catholic Church has certainly disregarded the command of “call no man your father…” Using the title or name of Reverend violates the same principle and is blasphemous. One man is to be revered no more than another because “we are brethren” as Jesus taught. Many religions use the title of Holiness or Holy in reference to their leaders. Many New Agers use the title Master when talking about a teacher, but there is one Master and that is the Christ within all of us. If a teacher does not speak to that center within us then we should ignore him.

Talking of a master as one who has mastered a skill is legitimate as well as referring to someone as a teacher, follower, disciple or things that describe a person’s work in a way that does not place him above another just because of position.

Royalty uses all kinds of blasphemous names to God such as Your Highness, Your Majesty, Your Excellency, and so on. Even the idea of one being a king or the divine right of kings is blasphemous. One person has no more divine right to be a king than does another.

Then there are many titles that are not blasphemous because they do not indicate that man is taking the place of God. A title is correct if it merely indicates the job he is attempting to do in this life: President, Mayor, Judge, Senator, Doctor, Professor etc. There is nothing untruthful or disrespectful about these names.

You will find, however, that wherever unjust authority rears its ugly head, the person exercising it will revel in the chance to be called by some title that belongs to God alone.

Then there are religious and political organizations where blasphemous names are not allowed, yet if the leader is still revered as one who is infallible or able to commune with God in a way that the average guy cannot, it corresponds to a name of blasphemy. It will be just a matter of time before the illusionary name surfaces to fit the thoughtform.

Truly great leaders are examples of what we are to become, not examples of holiness that we cannot attain. When is the last time you heard a person with a Godlike title speak in such a way that it spoke to your inner Christ and caused your heart to burn? Probably never.

Yet many of you felt an inner stirring from reading The Immortal, written as fiction by a man with no title, making no claims. I am content because this is the greatest honor that one person can give to another: to have that which is within the soul of one, light the soul of another like the passing of a candle.

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Naming Names

Nov 26 1998

Naming Names

All the heads, horns and crowns of the beast have numerous names of blasphemy.

Belle named several: His/Her Royal MajestyHis/Her Excellency

Hint: The worst blasphemy is when the man without is substituted for the attributes of the God within.

Lelona and Alice defined Augustus as meaning exalted, the most high, Sacred. It also implied a Holiness. Remember that Rome was called the HOLY Roman Empire?

Forget the fact that Augustus is literally a title for so is Christ; yet the Bible also calls Christ a name. A title when applied uniquely becomes a name.

Augustus is a name that belongs to God therefore to give it to an illusion of God is blasphemy for one man (or woman) is no more sacred or holy than another.

Taking the name of Augusts was just the beginning, as we shall discuss later. If anyone on the list knows the real reason why Christians were put to death on a mass scale go ahead and post it. What name did they reject?

See if you can post any more names the Beast loves to accept.

Nov 27, 1998

Belle gave some good additions here and Diane came up with some great historical research. Be sure and read it if you haven’t.

Belle’s additional names:

His/her Royal Highness

Holy Father—Pope

His Holiness-Pope

His Eminence

His Grace

Imperial Majesty

Serene Majesty

Lordship

Most Reverend

Most Worshipful

Why are these blasphemous names?

Rick’s King of Kings or even King is not far off. Notice in verse two that the beast is compared to a lion and the lion is called the king of beasts or the king of the jungle?”

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The Names of Blasphemy

Nov 25, 1998

The Names of Blasphemy

I believe it was Dave who wrote:

“Just to be sure, JJ, do we have the full understanding of the word Blasphemy? I’d hate to be guessing at the names without having a full understanding of the word. I understand it to mean, “Offensive to God,” basically. It’s not a word I focus much of my time on. Since, in a matter of speaking, I’ve heard this word used against people so often, I’ve grown to hate it… It seems to cause hate…”

We might note here that Jesus was crucified because he was thought to be a blasphemer. Few of us today think He was a blasphemer, but the fact that He was so accused illustrates that one man’s good works is another man’s blasphemy.

Of course the reverse is true. True blasphemy may at times be praised as a wonderful thing by many.

Such is the case with the Beast.

First let us truly define what blasphemy is so we can all be on the same page. The word as translated in the Bible comes from the Greek word BLASPHEMOS and in relation to God literally means “speech that hinders (God)” By inference it can mean “outrageous, untrue, vicious or unfounded speech against God or something sacred.”

Now the interesting thing is that the Beast had on his heads the “names of Blasphemy.”

We can sum up the direction the guesses have been made with the following list:

  1. Adultery
  2. Fornication
  3. Uncleanness
  4. Lasciviousness
  5. Idolatry
  6. Witchcraft
  7. Hatred
  8. Variance
  9. Emulations
  10. Wrath
  11. Strife
  12. Seditions
  13. Heresies
  14. Envying
  15. Murders
  16. Drunkenness
  17. Reviling

Based on what religions have taught about the Beast in the past these names seem fitting, but to discover the true names we must realize that when any being bears a name he realizes that he has the name and introduces or has himself introduced by such name.

When we accept a name for ourselves we are not ashamed of it but proudly present it before all to know and use.

Some Bible believers think that the Emperor Nero was the Beast because he was so evil and persecuted the Christians but I assure you he did not want to be known by a name like liar, murderer, hater… In fact if anyone called him any such thing he would have lost his head.

There was a blasphemous name that the emperors of Rome as well as the other heads of the Beast proudly acknowledged and were happy to be proclaimed to the world. You probably learned this name which was used in Rome in history class. If you figure this name out the next question is: What are the names of blasphemy the Beast goes by today?

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