Astrology and the Beasts
Question: Why are we interpreting Revelation in terms of astrology which is in its infancy and which mankind cannot understand?
JJ: No one says that we cannot understand it. Many understand the basics of it.
We are also in the infancy of developing the potential of the computer. Would it make sense to throw your computer away because there is much more to come?
Comment: Do we even know enough about the “science” to be able to apply it?
JJ: Yes. We know enough to put a number of principles to use. I certainly have in my life.
Question: Why would John write something which after 2,000 years is still largely unintelligible to most if not all mankind?
JJ: First, we are not going “by the astrological interpretation of the Book of Revelations.” But if astrological symbols are applicable in several of the many verses we will examine them and see how they apply.
As far as being unintelligent goes, the whole of the book of Revelations is much more complicated to the average person than is astrology. If we were to be turned off a things because of difficulty, interpreting Revelation would be the top of the list of most people.
JJ The granddaddy of complex spiritual writings are the those of DK. If we were to shy away from the complex in this group we would avoid him like the plague.
The goal here is to make the complex simple. This generally happens when the truth is explained in plain English. I’ve written quite a bit about astrology in the past and no one has complained that it was difficult to understand as I presented it. Hopefully this will be the case when astrology is brought into play in the future.
Question: How useful is astrology as a means of interpreting the Book of Revelations?
JJ: Orthodox astrology is most centered around personality analysis and prediction which is only a small part of the craft and this has nothing to do with the present analysis of Revelation. Currently we are talking about the symbols involved and the meaning John was trying to portray.
There are three basic principles involved in astrology which are relationships, cycles and symbols. The use of symbols is a key ingredient to both astrology and the Book of Revelation. None of these are an exact science at the present, but a developing science, just as psychology is a developing science in its infancy. Even though psychology is not a mature science this does not mean that what we do know is not useful. It is. Even so it is with the developing science of astrology.
Reader Comment: There MUST be another explanation other than to rely on a science which some of us might understand sometime in the future, but which is currently not understood, and therefore not learnable and not teachable in its true state.
JJ If it is useless to examine the symbols of astrology then we would have to say it is useless to examine the symbols of Revelation. I think both are of value.
And if our understanding of symbols are wrong then we may be wrong in many of our interpretations of the scriptures and other inspired writings. Does this mean we should not try to understand anything with symbols? Of course not. As the seeker moves ahead his understanding will grow and he will correct his errors and eventually see in the light of day.
The reader seems to be implying that we are using astrology as a base for interpreting the whole book. We could, but we are not. Instead, we are applying it to a couple verses. As a base theme we are using “the unveiling of Jesus Christ,” because this is what was implied by John himself.
Reader: It takes revelation in order to understand revelation.
JJ: Many claim revelation to understand this and other scriptures and most of them disagree with each other showing that someone isn’t getting revelation after all. The key is this. When the truth is spoken or written it will be registered with the souls of those who are ready.
Even if I got a revelation on understanding Revelation I would, most likely, not tell you for it may take away from your own use of soul contact in confirming for yourself.
Overall, this reader seems to have a negative view of any use of astrology in connection with the scriptures, as do many fundamentalist Christians, but the Book of Revelation is encoded in symbols just as astrology is.
In finding truth and interpreting symbols we use what works. It is beyond coincidence that John picked not only four astrological symbols, but all four belong to the fixed cross. Four signs belong to the mutable cross, four to the cardinal and four fixed. Obviously, the revealer of the images here incorporated astrological symbols for a reason. We would be remiss in not discovering what that reason is.
The reader thinks we are interpreting from our comfort zone and fixed mindset here but I think the truth is the opposite. Astrology as it relates to Revelations goes way beyond with what the average Christian is comfortable.
I do not see any relation between a fixed mindset and astrology or any other discipline. One could have a fixed mindset about excluding astrology.
This reader or anyone else are welcome to give us an interpretation that is not a preconceived idea. Go for it.
Meanwhile, we shall explore the four beasts more deeply.
Question: What do they have to do with the “unveiling of Christ?”
Another reader wonders if the criteria for interpreting astrology as well as the Book of Revelation has changed in the last 2000 years.
Both the Book of Revelation and astrology rely heavily on cycles and symbols. Both rely heavily on eternal principles and are applicable in all ages of time of the current universe which has billions of years yet to exist.
The principles and laws that govern the universe are the same today as they were 2000 years ago and as they will be 2000 years hence.
There is a continuing shift of consciousness, but this merely brings us closer to understanding eternal principles and laws, but does not change them.
The question: What do the four beasts have to do with the “unveiling of Christ?”
To fully understand the four beasts we first must go back to the theme of Revelation which is the “unveiling of Jesus Christ.”
What does the unveiling of Christ mean?
It means much more than our understanding the man Jesus, for Christ is in us all and the goal of each of us is to become like him and share in his consciousness. He who taught in Jerusalem represented the relative perfection of the Christ principle and thus has born the title of “The Christ.” Even so, he is “the first of many brethren” and was the great example for us to follow. Each of us must also unfold, or unveil, the Christ within each of us:
“Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.” Phil 2:5-6
Therefore, the unveiling of Jesus Christ not only applies to the entity who bears the title of “The Christ,” but also applies to those who are attempting to experience “this mind in you.”
Another point to consider is this. To understand the four beats we cannot look at the beasts in isolation but must examine the whole picture that John is painting in this chapter and relate it to the Christ consciousness.
If we read the whole chapter we find that the perfected Christ consciousness consists of the following:
(1) Opening the door to heaven (soul contact)
(2) After making this contact we perceive the inner God sitting on his throne within our own being.
(3) We receive spiritual light from the inner voice of God.
(4) He sees 2X12 ancient lives sitting on thrones. This tells us that he who has soul contact and has attained the mind of Christ not only communes with the one inner God upon the throne, but also contacts a group of Christ-like beings through the Oneness Principle. These are beings who are linked together through the Molecular Relationship on the other side.
(5) He sees a sea of glass, or the light of inner space which enlightens his mind.
(6) Finally, he sees the four beasts.
Everything he has seen so far is connected with the higher nature or self. The four beasts represent the lower nature and keys to bringing it into the service of the God upon the throne. Notice that these beasts are praising and serving God. This is the destiny of the lower nature, but first matter must be subject to spirit and not the other way around.
The beasts have six wings that enable them to fly to the throne of God. What enables our consciousness to ascend from the lower nature to spirit? This ascension takes place through the wings of the six active centers.
(1) The sacral center which governs sex and sensuality. This wing is activated when sexual energy is brought under the direction of the soul and is directed toward the Higher Self rather than being the controlling energy.
(2) The solar plexus which governs lower emotion. This wing is activated when the emotions no longer have power to dictate actions, but are subject to the Christ consciousness and used to fly to spirit rather than descend to carnal man.
(3) The heart center. This wing is activated when selfish love is replaced by spiritual unselfish love, or the love of Christ.
(4) The throat center. This wing is activated when the seeker learns the principle of right speech and directs his words, thoughts and creativity toward harmlessness and elevating the heart toward service.
(5) The Ajna center – the third eye. This wing is activated when the seeker opens the door of inspiration and brings down divine ideas and principles in a manner that the lower nature can see and understand.
(6) The crown chakra. This final wing is activated when the seeker tunes into and follows a higher will than that possessed by the nature of the beast.
The four different beasts represent four realizations that must be obtained so the wings will have power to ascend the lower consciousness to the throne of God.
(1) The first beast was like a lion – the sign of Leo. This represents the great power of the personality, its powerful ego and pride and its overwhelming desire for happiness.
Necessary realization: The higher can fulfill the lower but the lower cannot fulfill itself. This realization is gained when the seeker submits his lower nature to the higher and understands that this is the path of joy rather than painful sacrifice.
(2) The second beast was like a calf – Taurus. Taurus represents the age of animal sacrifice.
Necessary realization: The animal nature must be sacrificed to the spiritual nature or the Christ consciousness. A sacrifice is, in the end, only an exchange of one thing for another and the idea is to come out ahead in the end. Sacrificing the animal nature is difficult, but the spiritual gain far outweighs the material loss.
(3) The third beast had a face like a man – Aquarius.
Necessary realization: Once the ego and lower desires are under control of spirit then the lower self will be used in the service of humanity.
(4) The fourth beast was like a flying eagle – Scorpio. Scorpio represents laws, principles and events which are set in motion over which we have no control
Necessary realization: After the lower nature is dominated by spirit and the person becomes a servant, he discovers he must work within certain laws and limitations. When he sees his ring-pass-not as it truly is and seeks to expand it, then he soars like the eagle to the throne of God.
Because the ascended four beasts are full of eyes, the disciple can see the past as it truly was, the present as it truly is and the future as it most probably will be.
The last verses of chapter four read:
“And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, Rev The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.” Rev 4:8-11
Question: What is the significance of the four beasts giving “glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever?” Who or what lives forever?
Why do the 24 elders cast their crowns before the throne?
“Insist on yourself; never imitate… Every great man is unique.” Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882)
March 15, 2005
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