The Lord’s Prayer
Question: Is the Song of the 144,000 supposed to replace the Lord’s Prayer?
The two “prayers” have entirely different purposes. Technically, the Lord’s Prayer is neither a prayer nor a mantra, but instructions to disciples as to how they should pray. Jesus intended it as instructions rather than a mantra for He was teaching them how to pray in secret without using vain repetition.
Here is the Lord’s Prayer:
“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
“Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
“Give us this day our daily bread.
“And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
“And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.” Matt 6:9-14
Let us break it down:
“Our Father which art in heaven,”
A prayer should begin by addressing or acknowledging God.
“Hallowed be thy name.”
As you begin to pray acknowledge the holiness or wholeness of God. Prayer does no good unless God is in the consciousness of the one praying.
“Thy kingdom come.”
All prayers should include thoughts of the spiritual kingdom of God dominating over the materialistic world. See Spirit, creation and life as the dominating force rather than destruction, corruption and decay.
“Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”
Prayer is futile if our words are not in harmony with Divine Will. The seeker must tune into and accept God’s Will whatever that is, even if it runs contrary to our selfish nature.
“Give us this day our daily bread.”
The disciple asks for enough for his needs to supply the health and strength he needs to serve and nothing more. Anything more than this is to be seen as a bonus and should not be sought as a gift from God. One is free to work for a surplus through his own efforts. The promise to the faithful is that they will receive more than they have capacity to appreciate; but as far as asking, one should only seek the power to be a viable servant.
“And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.”
Many use the first part of the prayer and forget the last. It is impossible to obtain more forgiveness than we are willing to pass out. To ask for forgiveness when we do not forgive ourselves is a mockery. By asking forgiveness with this attitude, we remind ourselves that we need to forgive others, even as we expect God to forgive.
“And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:”
All of us can yield to wrong decisions under the right pressure and circumstance. The key to deliverance is not to be super strong, but to not follow a path that will lead us to more temptation than we can endure. We must all pray that we can stand within our own sphere of power so we can keep a clear conscience and always stand within the light, love and power of God.
“For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”
Scholars agree that this line was not spoken by Jesus but added later to give it a finishing touch so it could be repeated as a mantra. This was not the intention of Jesus, but it did create a good prayer. The trouble with it is that using it as a repetition negates the purpose for which it was given.
The Lord’s prayer was thus a set of instructions in its original form rather than a prayer itself.
As far as various mantras of sets of words goes, there are different ones that have set purposes for various times.
The main purpose of The Song of the 144,000 is to create an endowment of protection for the servants of this age so they will not be persecuted and destroyed as in previous ages. The keynote for this age is not sacrifice, but service. It is of extreme importance that those who desire to serve have the power to sustain that service.
Question: Did the man who wrote “Deliverance in the Whirlwind” stimulate you at an earlier age to research Revelations and other scriptures?
No, he didn’t offer me any inspiration in that area. He was the first author I read who really probed the meaning of the Greek and Hebrew and this stimulated my interest in this direction. This led me to quite a few discoveries.
I started studying Revelations at age 20 and started reading Tennyson’s material about age 25 so I had already studied Revelations quite a bit when I came across his material.
Comment: Deliverance from the Whirlwind has some pretty wild ideas about the oceans being sucked up in to space to form rings like Saturn. I think it is more possible that the great change to come would be an ice age.
Yes an ice age with its accompanying problems is bound to happen again and some say one is overdue. Tennyson saw something much more devastating from his reading of the Bible.
He pointed out that in the beginning there were waters above the heavens, or firmament, as indicated in Genesis:
“And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.” (Genesis 1:7)
He concluded that these waters in the heavens formed rings around the earth like Saturn. He also concluded that the sun shining through these rings produced a greenhouse effect that made the earth an Eden. In those days there were no oceans and people lived way below present sea level and the higher atmospheric pressure caused people to live longer.
Then he believed the flood of Noah was caused by the falling to earth of the waters from heaven and this created the oceans. We were then forced to live in the mountains under much less air pressure and this caused us to live a shorter life span.
He believed the Whirlwind mentioned in the Bible will restore the water/ice rings of the earth and restore the earth to paradise where we will farm what is now the ocean floors.
I do not think he has everything right, but his writings are quite unique and much more thought provoking than standard religious fare. Here is a link to a PDF of his treatise for those who are interested.
Question: “Was your dad in contact with Nikola Tesla? He seemed to be able to come up with all sorts of inventions without much schooling.”
No, but I had a brother-in-law who died a few years ago who was a nuclear physicist who studied him and another inventor. It was T. Henry Moray who created a free energy device that was pretty much lost to history. You can read about him HERE
Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance. — Will Durant (1885 – 1981)
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