Going to Hell

Going to Hell

I remember JJ saying that hell can be created by a person’s own mind after death.

Question: A few people have reported going to Hell during NDE’s and claims it is real. Is Hell real and do Evil people go to Hell?

Where in the afterlife do the really Evil people go and what place is it like where you find Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi of Libya, Stalin and murderers and the like? What that place like to them?

JJ: Any hell a person experiences after death is created in his mind in this mortal life, not the afterlife.

There has been a lot of research done to determine the after death state. Among these are:

[1] Near Death experiences.

[2] Channeling people who have passed over.

[3] Regression of people to their experiences of the between life state.

[4] Visions

The problem is that all of these methods have produced conflicting results. Some say that there is no punishment or any kind of hell after death while others paint a pretty bleak picture for the ungodly.

I think that the most accurate information has been obtained by hypnosis which has taken people into the between lives state. The interesting thing about this research is the information revealed by many subjects is quite consistent.

Michael Newton led the research on this and has written several books on what he has discovered. One thing I found interesting is that there is some information that the subjects were forbidden to reveal to the living. Newton tried to get around this by tricking the subjects into answering and sometimes he was successful.

He tells us that a very negative person after death carries the negativity with him but specially trained people work with these types and try to salvage them. If they reconnect with soul energies then they will go to work preparing for their next life where they hope to improve their situation. If the person cannot be salvaged then he is returned to the Source to be recycled.

He also verifies that we have a Higher Self that co-exists in the spirit world even while we are incarnated on the earth.

Many people who we see as bad guys, in their own minds, thought they were doing the right thing. These people will have to confront their mistakes after death and gain a sense of the pain and suffering they caused. This will cause a temporary hell for them. Even so, if they have a desire to do good, even though mislead, they will be worked with and spiritual teachers will attempt to redirect their consciousness and goals.

Re: Normalcy Bias

This normalcy thing is a reason so many otherwise intelligent people fail so miserably at predicting the future. They base all their data on what has been normal in the past and this rarely applies to any long-term future.

Jimmy Carter, for instance, predicted we would run out of oil within a decade of his presidency. Bill Gates at one time thought we’d never need more than 2 MB of Ram. Almost all psychics thought WWII would not happen.

A reader points out the dangers, we as a careless society, face and preparations that we can take. I will add this. The Brotherhood of Light does everything within their power to guide us into the new age in such a way that the innocent will not suffer because of great calamities. They realize that karma and cause and effect can create much suffering that the careless and selfish can bring upon themselves. But it touches the heart of God when the pure in heart suffer because of the action of those whose intent is not pure.

One of the purposes of the gathering is to shield true seekers from pain and suffering they do not deserve. Unfortunately, we are approaching a time of danger and no gathering is in place. If a calamity occurs in the near future even those ho have done their best to prepare will not be prepared.

It has been the hope, as the new age approaches, that great calamities can be delayed until places of refuge are created. The best case scenario is that reasonable relations are established between the nations and we move into the new age without major calamities. We live in times where that seems unlikely to many but it is still a possibility.

Let us hope the door to evil will be closed and the pure in heart will flourish on the hills of Zion.

Eventually we will have earth changes that cannot be entirely avoided with good will, but that is another matter we will eventually deal with.

Mother Earth Correspondences

A reader gave the following quote from me:

If we correspond the earth to a greater human life we can arrive at some more interesting correspondences.

Minor earthquake = The earth is scratching an itch.

Medium earthquake = The earth is scratching a major itch.

Big earthquake = Comparable to a human trying to relieve himself from poison ivy.

Small volcano = Pimple or blackhead.

Major volcano = A boil.

A storm = Irritation

A hurricane = Anger

A tornado = Intense directed anger

A Tsunami = A chiropractic adjustment.

Then she asks: “Why did Mother Earth have “intense directed anger” with  the tornado in Oklahoma (in 2013)? Or did the people also manifest this to some degree?”

The first thing to note is that correspondences in a case like this are loosely made and are not to be taken too literally. Even so, correspondences are always there to be found and contemplating on them will always bring some enlightenment.

Secondly, to understand the earth’s reaction that affected the people of Oklahoma we need to again apply The Law of Correspondences.

Think of how small individual people are in relation to the planet. We are like tiny bacteria in comparison to the size of the planet.

Now let us relate this to ourselves. Let us suppose you had an itch. When you scratch do you give any thought to the bacteria you may be killing in the process?

If you are angry at yourself and slap yourself in the face are you thinking about the lives of the cells you are disrupting?

Not really.

Even so, the earth was not angry with the people of Oklahoma nor was their welfare in its mind when the tornado erupted. Events like this are a part of its reaction to life on its own plane.

Just like the lives in our body have to adjust to our actions and feelings, even so do we humans have to adjust to the life of the earth as it manifests.

Yes, human emotions can influence some weather anomalies but we are merely an influence, not the total cause. There are storms on Mars yet there are no humans on its surface.

He who mistrusts most should be trusted least. – Theognis

May 25, 2013

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Earth is Hell

Earth is Hell

Question: You said that the scriptures indicate that this earth is hell. I do not recall reading that. Where did you get that idea?

JJ: There are a number of scriptures from the Bible as well as the LDS that verify this.

For the Mormons powerful evidence is found in this scripture:

“These [the inhabitants of the telestial kingdom] are they who are thrust down to hell. These are they who receive NOT of his fulness…” D&C 76:84&86

And where is the telestial kingdom? The Mormon temple ceremony answers:

“Brethren and sisters, this represents the Telestial Kingdom, or the world in which we now live.” [earth where people are thrust down to hell]

Here is a good one from the Bible:

“And the sea gave up the dead which were in it.” Rev 20:13

What is the sea? The scripture explains: “The waters [the sea] which thou sawest where the whore sitteth are the peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues.” Rev 17:15.

The sea then is “the peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues” of this earth.

We are told that “Death [Physical death II Nephi 9:11] and Hell [the spiritually dead in hell. II Nephi 9:12] delivered up the dead which were in them.” Thus we see that on the last day ALL the spiritually dead, including those still living on the earth and all the Spirit world [Death and Hell] will be judged, and those who cannot abide the judgment must suffer a “second death” and be cast into the lake of fire [or another round of numerous lives of sorrow].

When Nephi was interpreting the filthy water in his vision he said it was “hell”. His brothers then asked: “Doth this thing mean the torment of the body in the days of probation, or doth it mean the final state of the soul after the death of the temporal body, or doth it speak of the things which are temporal? And it came to pass that I said unto them that it was a representation of things BOTH TEMPORAL AND SPIRITUAL.” I Nephi 15:31-32

Here we have it in plain English. Hell is both temporal and spiritual. Men can suffer for their sins both in and out of the body, and since this temporal existence is part of “hell” how are men going to be sent there after they die if they are not born again?

“There cannot any unclean thing enter into the kingdom of God; wherefore there must needs be a place of filthiness prepared for that which is filthy.” I Nephi 15:34.

Nephi tells us that that place which is prepared is hell, of which the filthy water in the vision was a symbol of, and such symbol “was a representation of things both temporal and spiritual.” Therefore, those who suffer the temporal hell are sent back to the “temporal” earth.

There is more evidence of this from the Bible.

Jesus said: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Matt 10:28

The physical body does not follow us after death yet Jesus  said the body could  be destroyed in hell. The only place the body could be destroyed in hell is by destroying it on this earth.

In Revelation we are told that the New Jerusalem descended on the earth. After this happened it is written: “For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” Rev 22:15

It appears that those who go to hell in the future, after the descent of the New Jerusalem, are still on the earth, but just outside the location of the New Jerusalem.

Humans do not need to go to some fiery pit to suffer in hell. The earth is very well equipped to mete out justice and fulfill the law as written by Paul:

“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption;” Gal 6:7-8

Burning for eternity in a literal lake of fire would be overkill and would be a punishment not equal to any crime. To the contrary, the scripture tells us the punishment will be comparable to what has been sown. The deeds that are sown in the flesh “shall of the flesh reap corruption;”

We are in the flesh on this earth, not in the world of spirits. If you are a thief you will come back and become a victim of thieves, if you are an unfaithful spouse you will come back and suffer others to be unfaithful to you.

This earth is the perfect place for justice to be served.

Man is born free, yet everywhere he is in chains. – Jean Jacques Rousseau

Sept 21, 2011

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Fire and Brimstone

9/25/1999

Fire and Brimstone

Laura asks:

“I took a round-about way of asking this question, but the question that came to my mind was this – given what I was taught about Christ (that during his three days of death, he visited both heaven AND hell) and JJ’s parable about heaven and hell, does this mean that Christ was in a serious state of inDecision, Reluctance or Guilt after his death?

“I was taught that there is an actual Hell (fire and brimstone and what not) and that Christ went to Hell in order to break out a can of Whoop-Ass and go Medieval all over Satan, but that doesn’t seem to fit this new vision of Heaven and Hell as I see it now, through JJ’s parable.”

The parable (from The Immortal, Book I) was meant to teach a principle and is not to be taken literally. However there are such numerous situations that present themselves to souls after they die that it is possible that some people do have a similar occurrence.

There is illusion that is brought back from near death experiences for those who have not escaped astral consciousness will often play our their dreams, fantasies and hidden thoughts on the other side.

The Buddhists may meet Buddha, the Hindus, Krishna and the Christians Jesus, but instead of meeting the real person they will meet a thoughtform or some actor playing a part for their benefit.

Betty Eadie who wrote the famous book “Embraced by the Light,” came back with several illusions. First the idea that Jesus spends a lot of quality time with each and every good guy who passes over.

Some of the teachings she brought back were illusionary such as the idea that we have only one life and then move on to an eternal location as exists in her standard Mormon theology.

Perhaps the greatest illusion is the idea that all go immediately to heaven, even beings as Hitler. This illusion was also promoted in the book Conversations with God.

Some say that Hitler and other bad guys just volunteered to come down and play the bad guy as an act of service. This flies in the face of what Jesus said about Judas, doesn’t it?

Now it is true that Hitler’s higher self is in a heavenly place but in order for the earthly essence of Hitler or some serial killer to be there, a great change would have to take place or his astral self would have to die (sometimes called the second death) and his essence reunited with his soul.

The truth is this. That person which you are the moment you die will carry over to the other worlds so you will be essentially the same person until reunited with the soul. If you are depressed here you will be depressed there. If you get angry easy here, you will continue to do so there while lingering in the astral/etheric plane.

Many illusions do not need a revelation to dispel. Often a little common sense will do.

Is there a hell on the other side?

To answer this one need only ask: Is there a hell for the living on this earth? The answer is yes. When a person in this place decides that life is so bad he wants to kill himself, do you think that such a one is in hell? Of course, he has a terrible state of mind and that state of mind carries over to the other side and is actually intensified and just as his thoughts produced hell for him here they can continue to produce hell over there until he is absorbed by the light of the soul. Then it will be as if he had awakened from a bad dream

People in a similar state of negative thought often join their thoughts together and produce illusionary realities on the other side that are very undesirable places to visit.

Another thing that produces hell on the other side is the fact that there is a principle which says that “like attracts like.” Very irritating people have a vibration that draws them to others like themselves in the Spirit World. Pleasant minded people have a higher vibration and they gravitate to others like themselves. Thus the irritating people only have other irritating people for company and this produces a hell for them that definitely teaches them a lesson.

If we can learn to forgive others, dispel our negative thoughts and feelings as well as guilt, then we will wind up in a very pleasant place to spend our time between incarnations.

After the Christ left his body on the cross he did descend to those of low vibration and ascended to the highest vibration in the worlds of form and taught and gave hope along the way.

Many misunderstand John’s descriptions of fire and brimstone in the Book of Revelations. Let us examine the Greek here and see what we come up with.

“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire (he sees by the spirit), and on his head were many crowns (he overcame all things); and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself (The nature of his mission). And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called the Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean (they are undefiled). And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword (truth), that with it he should smite the nations (consummate the order of the New Age): and he shall rule (guide)’.’- – them with a rod of iron (the word of truth and wisdom) and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Crucified the flesh to free the Spirit). And he had on his vesture (a resurrected body the symbol of the triumph over death) and on his thigh (a symbol of his seed, or those who follow the path of Christ) a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS (One who overcomes all things). And I saw an angel (messenger) standing in the sun (has great enlightenment); and he cried with a loud voice to all the fowls (The lights of the earth) that fly in the midst of heaven (they freely explore spiritual mysteries), Come and gather yourselves together (gather and build the cities of Light) unto the supper of the great God (feast on the joy in the kingdom of God); That ye may eat the flesh (destroy the corruption and outworn ideas) of kings (authoritarian rule), and the flesh of captains (turn swords into plowshares and create peace on earth goodwill to men), and the flesh of mighty men (the rich and powerful will be replaced by the wise and enlightened as those who are most respected), and the flesh of horses (instruments of war will be done away with), and of them that sit on them (those who operate them will not be needed), and the flesh (outworn ideas) of all men, both free (those on the path of enlightenment) and bond (those who are imprisoned with selfish desires), both small and great.

“And I saw the beast (Gog), and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gather together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken (subdued), and with him the false prophet (those teaching worn out ideas) that wrought miracles before him (impressed the people with their authority), with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast (blindly following authority or teachings), and them that worship his image (those who try and find God outside of themselves).

“These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.” Rev 19:11-20

This last sentence has an interpretation much different than is supposed. Most believe that the lake of fire and brimstone is “hell” which the wicked will enter after death, but notice that the beast and false prophet were not dead when they enter the lake, but “alive.” If they are alive then the lake of fire must be here among the living.

The word “fire” is from the Greek PUR which can be translated as “fire, fiery, or lightening”. The word indicates a display of light and is a symbol of enlightenment.

“Burn” is from KAIO which means “to set on fire”, or “to consume

‘“Brimstone” is an interesting word. It comes from THEION which is the neuter of THEIOS which in turn comes from THEOS.. THEIOS is interpreted as “Godlike” or “divine”, and THEOS is “God

John is telling us that the beast, and the false prophet are to be cast into a situation where they encounter “fire” (enlightened ones) burning with “brimstone” (the God within).

In this situation the beast and the false prophet will eventually be destroyed and Israelites will appear in their place – all the sons of men will eventually become the Sons of God. Remember that Jesus said: “Even so it is not the will of Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.” Matt 18:14

Paul also said that God “will have ALL MEN to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.” I Tim 2:4

Those who worship the image of the beast do not seem to believe that God has power to fulfill his will and accomplish this great task. They do not realize that even the representatives of the Beast will come to a knowledge of the truth according to the will of God.

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McCall Gathering, 2007, Part 15

This entry is part 15 of 54 in the series McCall Gathering 2007

The Unveiling, Part 10

Fire from Heaven

The other thing that I will go into briefly is the beast which has a lot of interesting symbolism,

And I stood upon the sand of the sea and I saw a beast rise up out of the sea have seven heads and ten horns and upon his head ten crowns and upon his heads, the name of blasphemy.

Why is he called the beast? He is called the beast because like attracts like and he controls people like they are beasts and what does a person that herds cattle do? He herds them and the beast has to go in the direction that he is told to go and if he does not then he gets whipped or something similar and is forced in some way to go the direction of the person that herds him. The beast in the Book Of Revelation is a great beast herder and what he tries to do is reduce all humanity who is not supposed to be beasts into beasts of burden where they do exactly what they are told to do.

He has seven heads symbolizing seven great kingdoms since the last great Adam. We are in the seventh head right now. And ten horns symbolizing ten divisions of humanity, there are ten religious divisions and ten political divisions in the world.

“And upon his heads crowns.” A crown symbolizes a kingdom and a king has life and death power over his subjects and can command them and they have to obey. “And upon his heads the names of blasphemy…” The names of blasphemy are all the names of those who represent the beast. In the religions it is, your holiness, your righteousness, reverend, father all these names are blasphemy which on the heads of religious rulers. All the religious leaders have these names, rabbi, father, reverend, and holy priest, your holiness and all these names are names of blasphemy.

In the political world we have the names of blasphemy also – your Excellency, your highness, your most high one or whatever, all kinds of names that people call the king or leader, these are also the names of blasphemy that are on the beast. When George Washington became president he insisted he just be called Mr. President because that is what he was and he did not allow any to call him a name that was recognized by the beast. He did not allow a name of blasphemy to be applied to him and he gets a lot of credit for that because he was probably the first man in history to refuse the power that the people wanted to bestow upon him.

And the beast which I saw was likened to a leopard, and his feet were the feet of a bear and his mouth were like the mouth of a lion and the dragon gave him his power, his seat and his great authority.

The beast is like a leopard because it is quick to destroy any enemy, anybody that threatens him. His feet were like the feet of a bear because he puts pressure and trods under his feet anyone that gets in his way. His mouth is like the mouth of a lion – and when a lion roars it puts the fear of God in everybody and when an agent of the beast says off with his head, he has that power to take off the guy’s head.

And the dragon, which represents illusion, gave him his power, his seat and his great authority and he did all his works through illusion. “And I saw one of heads as it were wounded to death and the deadly wound was healed and the entire world wondered after the beast.” Here in the physical realm we have the seventh head and it was wounded to death. When did his happen?

Audience: When the second beast came, right?

JJ: Not exactly, it was wounded to death by the Constitution of the United States, which brought freedom, and George Washington refused to accept a name of blasphemy and they established a free country that was free from the power of the beast and it wounded the seventh head as if it were to death. It looked like the seventh head was now going to die because freedom was going to spread all throughout the world but, “The deadly wound was healed” how was the deadly wound healed?

Audience: Bureaucracy

JJ: Bureaucracy. Everything was supposed to be done by elected leaders but what happened is we began to appoint all kinds of authorities. Everyone in the IRS is appointed. Nobody in that organization is elected, and this is the most scary and dangerous organization that we have. All kinds of people with authority over us are now appointed and not elected and there is no way to get them out of office. If we want to get rid of these people that have all this power over us we are out of luck. There is almost no way that we can do it and this heals the deadly wound. The deadly wound is being healed as more and more authority is over individual lives in this country.

People do not realize how far removed we are from the way our country was set up. The Boston tea party was revolt over a few pennies of tax. Now, if we add all taxes, most of us pay over 50% of our income to tax and this a lot more taxing than the early colonist were complaining about that started the revolutionary war. And they complained no taxation without representation. Well we have a lot more taxation without representation than they ever dreamed of and with that power the deadly wound was healed and the power over the lives of individuals is being brought back to us again.

All kinds of laws are unnecessary. Jessie Ventura suggested we spend two seasons making laws and one season undoing all the unnecessary laws, but no one listen. So the deadly wound was healed and there was given him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemy and power was given him to continue how long?

Forty and two months or again three and half seasons, three and a half seasons the beast has power to continue and he opened his mouth to blasphemy against God and His name and them that dwell in heaven. So the power of the beast blasphemies God by presenting an image of God that is not real and having us worship an outer image of God rather than the God within.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

The word “worship” comes from a Greek word that means, “kiss ass.” Basically this is what it means, or, more specifically,  suck up to. So in other words, everybody is going to suck up to some authority that is going to have power to completely control their lives and tell them what to do.

“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth and he had two horns like lamb and spoke as a dragon.” The beast  had two horns like a lamb. The two horns like a lamb are symbolic of Christ, the lamb of God. A horn is symbolic of a power or a kingdom. And the two horns like a lamb stand for, the second beast which was America and it had two horns that was sanctioned by the hierarchy or by the Christ. The first was the establishment of a number of religious orders bringing greater light that were created in the United States. Some of these were Mormonism, Madam Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the science of the mind and Unity churches. Many of these works that brought greater enlightenment to the world originated right here in the United States and that was one of the horns. The second horn was the political system, the Constitution and the free government that was started here. So this country had two horns representing the Christ but it spoke the words of the dragon. The reason it spoke the words of the dragon was the deadly wound was healed. Instead of being ruled by the constitution we are ruled by bureaucrats that speak words of authority that tell us what to do and what to think.

He exercised all of the power of the first beast before him and causes the earth and them which dwell in it to worship the first beast whose deadly wound was healed and he doth great wonders that he maketh fire to come down out of heaven and the sight of man.

Now when did the United States bring fire out of heaven in the site of man?

Audience: The creation of the atom bomb.

JJ: Right, the word “heaven” comes from the Greek word “Uranos” and what other word comes from this Greek word?

Audience: Uranium

JJ: Uranium, so in other words, the United States brought fire out of uranium in the site of man for everybody to see. So let us translate heaven as uranium and read it again, “He doth great wonders” and who has done more wonders than the United States, we even invented the Internet, right? “He doth great wonders, he maketh fire to come out of URANIUM on the earth in the sight of men. Doesn’t that exactly describe what we did at the end of World War II? We brought fire out of uranium in the sight of men. “And he decieveth him dwell upon the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the site of the beast. Saying to them that dwell upon the earth that they should make an image to the beast that had the wound by the sword and did live, and he had power to give life to the image of the beast that the image of the beast should both speak cause as many that would not worship the image of the beast that they should be killed.

Now one of the negative things that the United States has done is to support dictatorships controlled by the beast. Keep in mind that it has the righteous side like the Lamb of God but also a negative side. Speech with the authority of the dragon is part of the negative side.

So when did it make an image to the beast and give it power? In other words, the beast had all this power over life and death and the United States has done something to give life to an image of the beast. Now think back to the days of the Soviet Empire, what kept them alive? Whenever they had financial problems we would send them money and food. We sustained that image of the beast and who ever would not worship that image of the beast was killed or put in prison and many capitalistic investors actually invested in starting the Bolshevik revolution and financing the overthrow of the Czar and the creation of communism. A lot of that was financed by western bankers.

Now let’s look another one, North Korea. What do we do – we send them food. Does the food go to the poor people? No it goes to the military and the military tells the people, do what we say or you will be killed. And who is their biggest trading partner now? China another totalitarian dictatorship. If you do not play ball there in China then your life is in danger. Another is Cuba and even though we have embargo’s in place it is still financed by all kinds of people who send their money to their friends there and it keeps it alive giving them the power of the beast and life and death power over the people that if they do not play ball then they will be imprisoned or killed quietly. In this way the United States is sustaining the image of the beast throughout the world and if we would just quit helping the beast throughout the world then the beasts would all die, but we are sustaining them in power.

If we had not started this trade agreement in China and concentrated on India and Mexico instead we would not have the big worry that we have now about the large military build up in China.

So we have given life to the image of the beast throughout the world. We acknowledge the enemies of freedom and many of them are our enemies but we still send them food to keep them alive and to sustain them. It is a very strange situation.

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