vegetarian – Freeread

Should We All Be Vegetarians?

April 30, 2026 Joseph Dewey

Should We All Be Vegetarians?

A Reader Comments:

It has been said that the Spiritual Hierarchy is the saving force and the stewards of the human kingdom Just as man should be the stewards of the animal kingdom who reach their high goal by their interaction and stimulation with the human kingdom. Simply preserving animals so that they can be eaten at some future point somehow does not seem very steward like to me.

JJ: Yes, DK did point out our responsibility to the animal kingdom and even said that humanity would turn out to be saviors of them indicating that the time would come that humans would eventually reach a point where they would do much to make their lives more safe and comfortable.

Whereas it is true that there is abuse today I predict this will decline to the point that it is a rarity and animal life will improve in the following ways.

(1) Humans will assist wild animals so they will not suffer so much in the wild from starvation and cold. Forest fires will be more controlled in the future so fewer animals will be burned alive.

(2) People will increasingly become vegetarians so not so many farm animals will be raised. Those which do continue will be well cared for.

(3) Humans will assist with population control of wild animals to insure species are preserved yet do not overpopulate. They will control natural predators and hunters will be used in this process for some time to come.

(4) As diet shifts away from meat farms and ranches for meat will grow smaller and more personalized. Those who do eat meat will demand the animals be well cared for.

(5) Humanity has made greater strides than is realized for taking care of their pets and our relationship with them will only improve and the little abuse in this area will continue to decrease.

When I was a kid a lot of people shot stray cats and dogs for sport or even tortured them. Others would tie explosives on a cat’s tail and watch him explode thinking that was funny.

Here’s some of the ways they had fun in Europe several hundred years ago:

“Players with hands tied behind them competed to kill a cat nailed to a post by battering it to death with their heads, at the risk of cheeks ripped open or eyes scratched out by the frantic animal’s claws….

“Or a pig enclosed in a wide pen was chased by men with clubs to the laughter of spectators as he ran squealing from the blows until beaten lifeless.”

“But the practical function of cruel punishments was just a part of their appeal. Spectators enjoyed cruelty, even when it served no judicial purpose. Torturing animals, for example, was considered good clean fun. In 16th-century Paris, a popular form of entertainment was cat-burning, in which a cat was hoisted in a sling on a stage and slowly lowered into a fire. According to the historian Norman Davies, “The spectators, including kings and queens, shrieked with laughter as the animals, howling with pain, were singed, roasted, and finally carbonized.” Also popular were dogfights, bull runs, cockfights, public executions of “criminal” animals, and bearbaiting, in which a bear would be chained to a post and dogs would tear it apart or be killed in the effort.”

From: The Better Angels Of Our Nature By Steven Pinker

Speaking of cockfights, they were very prevalent when I was a kid as my dad took me to them regularly and had his own fighting roosters.

We have made great progress in the treatment of animals and each other over time, especially in the last 50 years. Most would not dream of mistreating animals today as they were in times of old.

That said, hunting will be used as a means to preserve animals but not an end of itself. Some who want to preserve certain species would prefer to not to offer them for hunting but realize that it is better to sacrifice 10% of a population to paying hunters than to allow 99-100% to disappear from the face of the earth.

Slaughterhouses are accused by some of skinning animals alive or beating them with clubs. I’m sure this claim must be exaggerated. This never happened at the meat-packing plant where I worked in shipping back in 1970. Wikipedia describes the process which was similar to what we used:

“Cattle are rendered unconscious by applying an electric shock of 300 volts and 2 amps to the back of the head, effectively stunning the animal, or by use of a captive bolt pistol to the front of the cow’s head (a pneumatic or cartridge-fired captive bolt). “Swine can be rendered unconscious by CO2/inert gas stunning.

“Animals are hung upside down by both of their hind legs on the processing line.

“The carotid artery and jugular vein are severed with a knife, blood drains, causing death through exsanguination.”

We used the cartridge-fired captive bolt system and the animal was instantly rendered unconscious and never regained it. There was little if any physical suffering. They did seem to have a psychic sense they were going to be slaughtered a few minutes before they were killed.

As far as skinning them alive goes I can’t imagine the people I used to work with doing such a thing. As it was, the Kill Floor was the least desirable place to work, and even these employees would have been repulsed if ordered to skin an animal while consciously alive.

It is unrealistic to think that farm animals would just be miraculously cared for if we all became vegetarians. Farmers raise cattle and pigs so they can sell then for meat. If no one buys the meat then who will care for them – the vegetarians? I don’ t think so.

“PETA claims that their first priority above all else is animal liberation, however on the most basic level this is clearly not true. With the millions of dollars PETA makes every year, they have a grand total of one animal shelter. As much as PETA advocates an animal’s right to fair and ethical treatment, this is not a no kill shelter. In fact, PETA has killed roughly 85% of the animals its shelter has “rescued.”

In many cases, shelters are forced to euthanize animals because they lack the finances to care for them. This is not the case for PETA, who in 2007 made over $30 million dollars. That’s enough money to finance their no kill shelter, and open multiple other no kill shelters.”

If PETA with lots of money do not take much care for animals, then what makes you think the general population would care for cattle if we all turned vegetarians?

Reader: Cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, and chickens on the road to extinction because of vegetarians? You are mistaken. We keep these animals even when we are not killing them for food. And they wouldn’t go extinct. You seem to go from one extreme to the other.

JJ: Who is this “we” you’re talking about? I know of no one with a pet cow who doesn’t plan to use it for meat or milk.

As far as animal abuse goes, I’m sure all of us here are against it and the numbers that do not support abuse are growing. It’s only a matter of time before conditions improve for all farm animals.

Farm animals are in a different category than those in the wild or pets. Wild animals can take care of themselves and humans take care of pets because they serve a human need. Farm animals like cows, pigs, goats and sheep are taken care of because we eat them. If not for that they would have extreme difficulty in surviving. This is why the switch to vegetarianism needs to be made on a gradual basis which is basically what is happening now.

I won’t eat anything that has intelligent life, but I would gladly eat a network executive or a politician. – Marty Feldman

March 31, 2012

Join JJ’s Facebook group HERE

Index for Original Archives

Index for Recent Posts

Easy Access to All the Writings

For Free Book go HERE and other books HERE

Kalispell Gathering 2006, Part 20

March 3, 2010February 16, 2011 Joseph Dewey

This entry is part 5 of 24 in the series Kalispell Gathering 2006

His Reward is with Him

So His reward is with Him. His reward is the wisdom, and the Love and the knowledge that He is going to spread to humanity. He is not going to come down here and appear before the United Nations and say, “Okay, everybody is going to do what I say now and we are going to rid the world of these nuclear weapons and we are going to stop all the suicide bombers and make the Israel a little more pleasant. We are going to make the European Union a little more generous, the United States a little more sharing; we are going make everybody better. He is not going to do this.

The reward is His teachings. How many here would like to just sit at His feet and be taught? Can you imagine what that would be like? Suppose He just walked through this door and lets suppose that we did not know it was the Christ, and we just thought it was somebody on our list. He came in; sits down what would He do? One thing He would probably not say anything and just sit; and listen. He would be a considerate person and then maybe I would say what do you think about this? And He might say, “Well do you really want to know it might take me a few minutes?” We say, “Yes lets give a try.” So He comes up and speaks. Those who are sensitive to the soul would feel a burning in their hearts and those who are not sensitive would think, well he is an okay speaker and teacher. And some would say, I do not agree with that at all.

Audience: Like the last time He would fly in the face of many established churches and religions and such. Before His teachings were wonderful and kind and they have now created these places for this and I wonder if His new teachings would affect the populace in another way.

JJ: It is hard to say and hopefully the world is a little bit more prepared than last time. The last time that He came, He had John the Baptist prepare the way and part of my mission is to prepare a group to receive Him when He comes. There are not too many who are ready to receive so what one has to do is learn to recognize the vibration of the soul that produces the love energy that swells up in your heart to the extent that it is impossible to deny that energy is there. And it is amazing how difficult it is to find people like that.

So, you can appreciate why Jesus called John The Baptist the greatest prophet that ever lived. I used to wonder about this a lot, I would think, what did John the Baptist do that was great? It has a couple versus that he preached about the messiah and then he got killed and that was it. Then when I began to teach myself, I began to see how difficult a job John the Baptist had, to even get a little group ready for the Messiah. He just got a small group ready for Him and then turned them over to Jesus. This is why He was the greatest prophet that ever lived because he overcame ego to the point that he did not need this for himself and he turned them over to his cousin, Jesus who had the divine possession.

Then Jesus took them higher and shortly after that John was put in prison and in prison he knew he was going to be sentenced to death sooner or later and he was getting kind of discouraged. He was a witness, he saw the spirit of God come down like a dove and enter into Jesus. But then when he was sitting in prison he began to doubt. He thought, wow, I dedicated my life to God and turned everything over to Jesus, but let’s suppose that He is not the real Messiah. I have done all this work for nothing and I am in prison for nothing. My work only means something if He is the real Messiah.

So he calls in some of His disciples that were visiting him and he says to them, go and ask Jesus if He is the one that was prophesied to come and return and tell me what He says. So the disciples went to Jesus and said, John has sent us with a message from prison and he wants us to ask you, are you are the true Messiah that was prophesied to come? And Jesus said, spend three days with me and then go and tell John what you saw. So they spent three days with Jesus, following Him around and watching Him.

Then they returned back to John and John asked, what did Jesus say when you asked Him that question? The disciples replied, He said to spend three days with Him and tell you what we saw, John asked, what did you see? They said, we saw many mighty miracles, the blind were able to see, the lame were able to walk, and those that were in prison were freed. And John says I can go at peace now because I know He is the true Messiah. So John was able to go to his death at peace knowing this, He had that second witness.

It is interesting that even though he had a very powerful first witness, he saw the spirit of God descend like a dove, he doubted after a period of time and this is like all of us. All of us have spiritual witnesses occur in our life and after a period of time passes we think. Did I really have that happen or was I imagining things? Sometimes we need a second reassurance just like John The Baptist, the greatest prophet that ever lived. John needed that second assurance that what he was doing really meant something in the eyes of God.

So when Christ comes His reward is with Him and His rewards are His teachings, eternal words that will not pass away that He will teach to us. He will teach us the principles of reincarnation. This is one of the things that DK tells us He will teach. He will teach and restore many of the mysteries that have been lost. He will guide the world toward peace on earth and good will to all men, but this will be done through free will. Before this occurs we will have many anti-Christs come forward and present plans that will have to be implemented by force. Many People will try to establish what they think is God’s will by force.

Like these terrorists that cut off people’s heads and then and shout praise to Allah, and as they are cutting off the guy’s head they think they are bringing the kingdom of God in their own way which is amazing someone can think that way. Others do all kinds of things in the name of God that are terrible, but they think doing terrible things is okay if the end is good. But, if you try to create a good end by terror, the end will be terror rather than something good.

Now there is a time to go to war, like during World War II it was essential that we go to war and defeat Hitler, but that was because we had to and there is a time and place for all things. The man of peace will use the most peaceful way possible to accomplish his end and only use war as a last resort. Concerning Christ, the Book of Revelations says, “In righteousness does he judge and make war.” But he prefers to make war on the mental plane, to go as a divine soldier and conquer with the sword of knowledge rather than the physical sword.

When He comes He will not be known as Jesus or the Christ and it may be a couple hundred years before a significant number may say, Hey, maybe this was the Christ because He did A, B, C, and it has lead to X, Y, Z, and it is possible that people may be wondering who He is or was. Especially if He decides to live indefinitely in a physical body because by the time He is 200 years old people will be saying, Hey, what is up with this guy. It may be his plan to live a normal life; it may be His plan to live a thousand years. We are not given the details of His plan.

The difference between the past age and this is the difference between the Piscean Age and the Aquarian Age. The Piscean age is the most emotional sign in the zodiac. It is a water sign, it is a sign on the mutable cross; which is also related to the emotional nature and so it is a very emotional sign. The sign of Pisces has something else that is interesting about it in astrology, that is, it is the sign where we learn everything that does not work. When we learn what does not work we have to let it go. It is a sign of sacrifice; this is why the sacrifice on the cross is the message of Pisces because we have to learn to sacrifice before we let it go and during the past two thousand years we have had lots of demonstrations of what works and what does not work.

Now we have to sift through the rubble of the past two thousand years and find everything that did not work because everything that did not work in the Piscean age is a remnant of the 11 ages before it and all the remnants of all the past 12 ages are here before us in the past 2 thousand years and we have to let go of that which does not work. We have to salvage what is left and take that which does work and move it into the new age.

The new age is ruled by air, or the mind. It will be an age of reason, an age of thought, an age where the keynote word will be service instead of sacrifice. You serve and you get recompense or reward for your service rendered. In the Piscean age we sacrificed and there was no reward. (Laughter) We had to wait for some spiritual heaven before anybody received any reward. But it is going to be a little different in this age, in this age we serve and the reward is not only with Christ but the reward is with us because we will achieve abundance and the desires of our heart much more quickly in this age than any other age past.

There is another very interesting thing about the coming Aquarian Age which I believe is the center of focus. The time that we shifted from the Piscean age to the Aquarian age was the moment that the first atomic bomb went off and that is the sign of the coming of man that is prophesied in the Matthew 24. Even thought the Aquarian age has already started it takes about 200 years to fully enter into an age. It is fascinating that around 0 B.C. when Christ was supposed to have been born was about 200 years into the Piscean age. People think that the birth of Christ signaled the beginning of the Piscean age but it was already close to 200 years into the Piscean age. The ages last about 2200 years and I believe it is 2160 or something close to that. The astrological ages are not exactly 2000 years but they are somewhat over that.

Every group of the 12 signs of the zodiac that we pass through are; part of a greater sign. What is unique about the sign of Aquarius, the age that we are entering into, is that as we are entering into the new age of Aquarius this is part of a greater age, of Aquarius that spans about 25,000 years. So, we have an Aquarian age within a greater Aquarian age making it the strongest Aquarian cycle since the days of Atlantis. This makes the Aquarian age that we are entering into the most potent Aquarian age we have ever entered into. Because we are more advanced than the last time this happened which would have been about 300,000 years ago. So it has been about 300,000 years since we have had this unique astrological combination. This makes the Aquarian Age we are entering a very potent one indeed and gives us the possibility to revitalize the earth on the Aquarian principles which is the mind, service, organization, just law and order of ceremonial magic around the seventh ray as it is called, which is strong in the Aquarian age.

The seventh ray will be very powerful and there will be a lot of interesting ceremony. Unlike ceremony in the churches, it will be ceremonies that actually bring specific results. Because different types of ordinances and ceremonies, if done correctly, speak to the angelic lives in their language. When, they see it spoken in their; language they can respond and assist humanity. The Masons have a lot of ceremony in their organization that was passed down from a long time ago. Now, the Masons have had a bad name but every organization that begins as inspired organization goes through periods where there are conspiracy theories in it, bad people in it, where there are evil leaders take over and things like this whether they are the Masons or anyone else and they have some bad spots in their history and some good spots in their history.

But the essential ceremonies that the Masons have are part of one of the things that will be restored. But, what will happen is, similar types of ceremonies that have similar truths will be restored on a higher level with the Masons and other organizations. It will not be so much associated with one religion but will be with all the religions of the earth to bring people together.

We will see ceremonies develop in the new age; which will be very potent. We will go through these ceremonies and they will accomplish certain effects because they will speak to the various energy centers in our body and this will produce a different responses that people will be able to feel and sense. They will be able to produce different types of abilities and talents through some of the ceremonial magic that will be restored to the earth. Then after this restoration begins the veil between heaven and earth will so thin that many people will be able to communicate with the angelic kingdom and the devas again as they did in ancient times.

Audience: Wouldn’t that also change our relationship with nature?

JJ: Right, as a matter of fact there are many tiny lives associated with nature that we cannot even see. The veil will become thinner and we will become aware, say, even in your own garden with the little angelic lives that bounce around your plants and help to keep them healthier. People laugh at this type of thing but there are all kinds of little fairy type lives. There are many different types of tiny lives bouncing around in the ethers that we cannot see that we will eventually learn how to see and communicate with. There are also many little lives that also collect the prana from the sun and bring it to Humanity, the animal kingdom, the vegetable kingdom to revitalize us and by being able to commune more closely with nature our food will have much more prana in them. One of the reasons we are drawn to eat animals is that we do not get the sustenance we need from the vegetable kingdom because it is not vitalized enough.

The animal kingdom is much more concentrated in it’s protein and produces vitality that makes us feel like we have been fed. When the vegetable is animated more by the prana energy that comes between the interplay of the earth and the sun, this revitalization will make a vegetarian diet much more satisfying in the future age. Right now it is not very satisfying because it is so lacking in nutrients and vitality that we have to eat about ten salads to feel full. (Laughter) You eat and eat and eat and you never feel full on a vegetarian diet.