I was asked to comment on this quote someone pulled from another forum:
“There definitely needs to be more realization that the works of Blavatsky, Bailey, Roerich, and Cedercrans, are all from the same source of The Wisdom. They are only different forms of interpretation.”
These are indeed numerous teachers involved in the one work but there is a huge difference in quality and presentation.
Blavatsky and Bailey were major presentations that have had much wider influence and impact than Roerich, and Cedercrans or any other contemporaries. Alice A. Bailey’s teachings are unique in the fact that she was an actual scribe for a Master’s literal words. While it is indeed possible that Alice A. Bailey slipped in some of her own words at times or that DK (Djwhal Khul) made some errors himself, the purity and quality of this revelation is unsurpassed.
I think that Roerich, and Cedercrans received some contact from the Hierarchy as well as some impressions, but their writings are largely their own words and reflect the quality of a disciple’s thoughts rather than a Master.
The purpose of teachers such as Roerich, and Cedercrans is not to give humanity a major revelation as did Alice A. Bailey but to take the Ancient Wisdom and present it in a form that will reach a wider section of humanity.
Thus I would not characterize the teachings of Bailey, Roerich, and Cedercrans as three presentations of the same material for there are some major differences, especially between Bailey and Roerich.
Of the three, Bailey is the main revelation, or the vine and Roerich, and Cedercrans are two branches which have value in bringing forth fruit, but further from the source of pure principles.
I do not believe the Hierarchy ever saw Roerich and Cedercrans as direct representatives whose thoughts represented their thoughts, but as disciples that could be stimulated to assist others upon the Path.
There are some claims of new presentations of the Ancient Wisdom, but I haven’t seen any new material of significance, however, there are numerous reinterpretations. Of course, each teacher gives his own take on the subject, but I wouldn’t say that any teacher I have seen has given a strong enough presentation to create a new world thoughtform.
Some teachers claim that a quantum leap in evolution has happened since World War II, but I see humanity’s evolution since World War II as falling behind expectations, if anything. Where is this quantum leap in consciousness? True we have made technological advances, but that is another matter. Many disciples and aspirants are caught up in the thoughtform that humanity has or is about to make a great leap and evidence does not bear this out. Many disciples have been a disappointment and have gotten bogged down in glamour and illusion. Much of this has to be dispelled before a leap in group consciousness can be made.
There is a teaching in circulation that the first five initiations have been reduced to one. This is definitely not true. For an aspirant to even absorb three initiations at once would be so disruptive it would cause death. Five at once is unthinkable. The unfolding energies within have to be adjusted gradually else great harm could follow.
Here are some more words from the Old Commentary:
“The assuaging waters cool. They slowly bring relief, abstracting form from all that can be touched. The quivering fever heat of long repressed desire yields to the cooling draught. Water and pain negate each other. Long is the process of the cooling draught.
“The burning fire releases all that blocks the way of life. Bliss comes and follows after fire, as fire upon the waters. Water and fire together blend and cause the great Illusion. Fog is the product of mist and steam and noise, veiling the Light, hiding the Truth and shutting out the Sun.
“The fire burns fiercely. Pain and the waters disappear. Cold, heat, the light of day, the radiance of the rising sun and perfect knowledge of the Truth appear.
“This is the path for all who seek the Light. First form, and all its longing. Then pain. Then the assuaging waters and the appearance of a little fire. The fire grows, and heat is then active within the tiny sphere and does its fiery work. Moisture likewise is seen; dense fog, and to the pain is added sad bewilderment, for they who use the fire of mind during the early stage are lost within a light illusory.
“Fierce grows the heat; next comes the loss of power to suffer. When this stage has been outgrown, there comes the shining of the unobstructed Sun and the clear bright light of Truth. This is the path back to the hidden centre.
“Use pain. Call for the fire, O Pilgrim, in a strange and foreign land. The waters wash away the mud and slime of nature’s growth. The fires burn the hindering forms which seek to hold the pilgrim back and so bring release. The living waters, as a river, sweep the pilgrim to the Father’s Heart. The fires destroy the veil, hiding the Father’s Face.” Discipleship in the New Age, Vol 1, Pages 677-78
There is a lot of food for thought in these words. Feel free to comment on any part that stimulates your thought.
However, I want members to concentrate on this statement:
“Moisture likewise is seen; dense fog, and to the pain is added sad bewilderment, for they who use the fire of mind during the early stage are lost within a light illusory.”
Why does the fire of mind create illusion, or a difficulty in seeing, as in as fog?
Now consider this statement:
“The fire burns fiercely. Pain and the waters disappear. Cold, heat, the light of day, the radiance of the rising sun and perfect knowledge of the Truth appear.”
Why do the pain and waters disappear and why does this lead to “perfect knowledge?”
The truth is the kindest thing we can give folks in the end. Harriet Beecher Stowe (1811 – 1896)
June 16, 2007
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