Boise Gathering 2008, Part 11

This entry is part 11 of 15 in the series Boise Gathering 2008

The Astral World

JJ: Now the next world is composed of atoms but a different type of atom. The atoms there are even more ephemeral and have more empty space than the physical and can thus pass through the physical. There might be an astral being right here, as a matter of fact, Sean has been seeing guides around people tonight and I am sure if there was a guide right here my hand would pass right through him. Do you see guides around anyone now? What do you see Sean?

Sean: I can see some next to you just off your left shoulder.

JJ passes his hand and asks if his hand passed right through this guide.

Sean: He backed off but the others are still standing there next to him.

JJ: I am not going to feel them because they are made of more refined matter than the matter we have here on our physical plane and this matter is refined enough when you think about how much of it is empty space. This just boggles the mind. So they are made of more refined matter but wherever there is physical form, when the form touches form there is an actual sensation of touch.

Now it is interesting that whenever there is communication in the lower part of the astral world they will talk just like we do. As you move up in the astral world in the intermediate spheres then they can talk just like we do or they can send different types of messages in like packages.

Audience: Like computer downloads.

JJ: Yes, and then as you move up further they do not talk at all, they just send messages by mental telepathy and sometimes they will get a flash of color and then the message will just be understood by them after they see that light flash of color. And vision is not interfered with as it is here. Like say if Sean was four times farther away I would not be able to tell if it was Sean but in the astral world if he is apparently a thousand miles away you could still see him up close and you could think about him being here and he would be here. In the lower worlds communication and travel is similar to what you have here but the higher you get the faster everything gets. Eventually when you get into the higher parts of the astral world you can crisscross if you want to see a friend a thousand miles away you just think it and you will be there instantaneously.

Time is different there than it is here in the fact that there is really no time to reckon. So some people say that there is no time in the other worlds but there is time everywhere but time is just is not measured everywhere. In our world here we have to go to work and time ourselves by the rising and setting of the Sun but in a world where there is eternal light and no change that causes you to not measure time and you do not think about it. And that is why some people have said there is no time in the astral world. It is in a state of timelessness and it seems that way but when you are in the astral world, time still passes. It still takes time to learn things, absorb things, take things in, but because you have all the time in the world it seems like time does not exist. Now the interesting thing about time is that it always exists but there are many places that we can go to in the higher spheres where it does not seem to exist because we are not reckoning by it.

Now in the astral world you have teachers that go from a higher sphere to a lower and assist and help the people down there. A person can move from one sphere to another when he learns his lessons and the teachers will often come down and they will be bathed in light and they will come down to the lower worlds and they will teach the people there the lessons they need to learn to go to the next sphere up. When they are ready accept their lessons and once they learn them then they can go to the next sphere up and they can better prepare for the next life to come.

Another interesting thing about the astral world is people will say, “Well it will be interesting once I die because then I will find out all the mysteries.” We do not really find out all the mysteries after we die. We just find that we have more questions after death because normally you don’t meet God or Jesus who sits there and explains everything to you. Perhaps you read the book “Embraced by the Light” where she immediately met Jesus and He explained a whole bunch of stuff to her. So what goes on here?

The thing is, The Christ Himself is on the earth right now in a physical body and He is not even in the astral world, now he can visit there if He wants to because He has power to visit any of the worlds that He wants. He is actually in a physical body right now and He lives on the earth. He said, “ Behold I am with you even until the end of the age.” He told this to His disciples.

What He meant by this is that He would be upon the earth until the end of the age living here with us. According to DK The Christ lives on the borders of Tibet in a physical body, DK also lives in a physical body and they are neighbors to each other.

Audience: Do all the Masters have physical bodies?

JJ: Yes, all the Masters have physical or etheric bodies.

Audience: What about the Buddha does He have a physical body?

JJ: Yes but He was supposed to leave the earth.

Audience: But He chose not to.

JJ: Yes He chose not to, you read that, very good, and because He chose not He works in what is called a Nirmanakaya which is a different office than a Master. Nirmanakaya is a go between the fifth kingdom of the Masters and Shamballa so the Nirmanakaya is actually in the sixth kingdom so that is what the Buddha is right now a go between Shamballa and the Masters. I do not believe He is in a physical body but He could be if He has taken on another life since the Buddha but we do not have any information on that.

Audience: So usually the Masters just keep a physical body to hang around in?

JJ: They have not really transcended the physical body yet; they have learned to extend the life of the physical body. It is not until the seventh initiation that you can you can completely transcend the physical.

Audience: So they couldn’t continuously exist on the mental plane or something like that?

JJ: They could if They wanted but the Masters that work with humanity live in physical bodies but they are not quite immortal but they have the ability to revitalize their physical body for an extended period of time but they will not be in their bodies forever and then once they pass the seventh initiation they will be able to live in their body or out of their body, they will be able to live in their etheric body or manifest a physical body if they want.

The Christ underwent the beginning seventh initiation on the cross followed by the resurrection. Those of you who have read my writings will understand that the Christ and Jesus are two separate entities that at the baptism of Jesus, John saw the spirit of God come down and descend upon Jesus and it says that the Spirit of God went into Jesus. Now just before this John asked how he was supposed to recognize the Christ even though Jesus was his cousin. His answer was that he baptized all these people and saw the Spirit of God descend and then leave them but when you see the Spirit of God descend and enter in and stay there then you will recognize this to be the Christ. So who was the Christ? Was it the one who was baptized or was it the one who entered into the body of the one being baptized?

The one that entered into the body, that was the Christ and Jesus was the disciple that prepared the way for The Christ.

Audience: So Jesus lives in Tibet?

JJ: Not Jesus but the actual Christ lives in Tibet in a physical body. The Tibetan predicted that Jesus would make an attempt to take over the Catholic Church around 1980 or so. This came to pass when Pope John Paul I became head of the church. He was firing people and making changes like crazy and all of a sudden after 33 days; this is an interesting number because it corresponds to the 33 years of Jesus life, he was poisoned and killed. There is a book about this that gives a tremendous amount of evidence that he was poisoned.

Audience: Do we know where He is now?

JJ: He is buried, oh you mean Jesus!

Audience: Laughter!

JJ: I do not know if it was Jesus actually in the body or if Jesus was overshadowing the Pope. I felt really sad when he died and I did not know why because I was really not into the Catholic Church that much but on reflection it dawned on me that was probably the fulfillment of the prophecy. Then I read the book that gave all this evidence that he was poisoned and then when I saw all the changes he was starting to make, he was cleaning up all the corruption and firing everybody that was doing all the illegal stuff and taking advantage of people. The trouble was that he moved too fast and he should have moved slower but he moved too fast and he scared the dickens out of everybody. I am convinced he was poisoned because after all He was in good health.

Audience: Besides this timing for the individual unfoldment, to what is it going to take for The Christ to come forth and do what He has to do to move us forward?

JJ: The Tibetan says that several things have to happen before The Christ can manifest again. First of all a period of relative stability has to occur, and one of the places it needs to occur is the Middle East. This is why the war in Iraq is so important. If the war in Iraq can end with democracy and some stability that creates a little bit of a domino effect. Then it will make it possible for The Christ to come and walk in ancient lands where He was once before. This is one of the things that He wants to do is to be able to go there in that areas in the world where He wants to teach.

Audience: That is where President George W. Bush comes in.

JJ: Remember what Jesus says, “He who follows me will be hated by all the world.” And who is hated by all of the people of the world?

Audience: Bush,

JJ: Bush, the whole world hates him and what is Bush doing? He is trying to prepare a place of safety for the Messiah to walk upon the earth once more.

Audience: Bush does not realize what he is doing does he?

JJ: He does realize it because he got an answer. When I saw him on TV and he announced that he was sending troops into Iraq I received a revelation on that, I saw him and he was before the Lord kneeling in prayer and he did not know what to do. He did not know whether to send in troops or not and he got a powerful witness, a tremendous fire descended upon him and he received a witness that he was supposed to do it and this is why he has not backed down – this is why all of a sudden the whole world was against him and said hey you have got to withdraw and what did he do? He sent in a surge and everybody thought well this is a slap in the face when everybody else is telling us to withdraw and everybody was beside themselves when he created this surge. But the only reason he did this is because of the answer he received and he knows that he got an answer from God that he was supposed to take that course. The evidence of this is that the entire world hates him.

The entire world hates him. Ninety percent of the people in France want him out of office and ninety percent of the people in almost all Europe want him out of office except the old Soviet Union countries that remember what a tyranny was, they love him. The people in the country of Georgia had put up statues for Bush up and what did the Russia destroy first when they invaded?

The statues of Bush. They hit those statues with missiles. The airport in Georgia where there was a big statue up for Bush, they blasted that first. They hate Bush and it is a very delicate thing to talk about Bush because so many people hate him. If you are in a group even, Republicans will say, “Oh that son of a bitch, murdering bastard.” They have nothing good to say about the poor guy, but you have to admire him for getting an answer and standing up to it, even though the whole world hates him. If you want to be a disciple of Christ then this is what you will have to go through. Can you be hated by the whole world and still hold yourself together? That what will happen if we build a city on the ocean. Then the whole world will hate us. You think Bush is hated wait until we build a city on the ocean.

By the time the press is done with us we will look like a bunch of Jim Jones’s ready sink in the ocean. The environmentalists will say we are destroying the ocean and so on, everybody will think it is a bad idea and will hate us.


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