Series: 2014

Jan 18, 2014

Question on Paul

Tom writes:

Is Paul, the one who wrote most of the New Testament and prosecuted Christians a master? JJ, mention him as a master. Was he a master when he wrote the New Testament or what initiate was he?

JJ

Yes Paul wrote quite a few books of the New Testament. They were originally written as letters to various congregations.

Paul was a third degree initiate. This third initiation was marked by his conversion when he was blinded by an encounter with the Christ and then healed.

According to DK, Paul became a master in a later life in which he was known as Hilarion.

 

Jan 19, 2014

Ruth:

If Paul became a master in a later life time, then was it when he was Oliver Cowdery? Is that why he walked away from Joe Smith and the LDS for a while after their argument?

JJ

As I said, DK says he became a master as Hilarion. Oliver was not a master and had a ways to go. It is possible that Hilarion and Oliver are two extensions of the same oversoul as Oliver had a ways to go to become a master in that life.

Here are some more things I have written about this subject. LINK

Reader:

So, I guess it is OK for Rabbi Shaul, the inventor of Pauline Christology, which contradicted Jesus Christ, The 12 Apostles and God Himself… and be considered an “initiate?”

JJ

Paul initiated his version of Christianity that spread around the word. This tells us that he was a powerful initiate.

If you are looking for perfection in initiates then you will never find one. There will be zero initiates for you to discover.

Tom:

JJ, another question: Jesus appeared to Paul when he was blinded and told him to follow him or something similar. Paul said he had gotten Revelations from Jesus Christ about his Gospels he is teaching which is similar to what Jesus taught. I have a question. Why did Jesus not write down his life story for all to follow his example. What if no one decided not to write about Jesus? Paul and maybe John and Peter helped spread Jesus word throughout the world….why did |Jesus not write a book on his teachings?

JJ

Maybe Jesus did do some writing and it was lost or hidden.

In those days teachers didn’t write down their thoughts like they do today. Even Socrates didn’t write anything that we know of. If not for Plato he would be lost to history.

 

Jan 20, 2014

Who do We Pray To?

Tom:

If there so many supernatural beings that visited the Earth that are gods then who do we pray too?

Who was the GOD of Jesus Christ when he talked about God?

Can the WORD control the elementals so Jesus could walk on water?

JJ

I have written about this quite extensively. The main entity that is likely to hear your prayers is a higher part of yourself, the highest part being the Monad which is closely linked to the One God. There are also occasions when a discarnate spirit will take notice and once in a while a master.

Sometimes when Jesus was talking about God or his Father he was talking about the overshadowing entity, the Christ, and other times the One God who reaches down to us through our higher selves and other means.

The Word sustained by thought and focus can accomplish most anything.

Ruth:

Did this happen because Moses was a Master before he came to Earth, or he had become a Master at that time or because Moses was overshadowed…

JJ

He underwent the transfiguration initiation when he was 80 years of age. Since this didn’t happen before the age of 21 we can assume that this was the first time he reached this stage.

I do not think that Moses was a master but that he was overshadowed by one who also went through his own initiation.

Joan Asks:

Should we not pray for help in specific instances, say, in our desiring to intervene on behalf of those we love who are in trouble? This is one of my biggest concerns, praying “wrongly” (through pride or “lack of permission”). How does one discern these things or even have a right to intervene.

JJ

There is nothing wrong with any sincere prayer for help. According to the intent, vibration and spiritual power it will find its right place and meet with a response if Higher Intelligence decides in a positive direction.

 

Jan 25, 2014

Radio Interview

I did another radio interview. This time it was with a lady named Erin Dakins who hosts a show called The Truth Traveler. here are the links:

 Hour One

Hour Two

 

Jan 26, 2014

Steve Jobs and Initiation

Tom wants to know how Steve Jobs could have been an initiate when he had so many faults. He seemed very emotional.

JJ

The First Degree Initiate has stronger emotions than a non initiate and a Second Degree has even stronger ones than the First Degree. One who has reached the Second Degree therefore has very strong emotions and will display them from time to time. Showing strong emotions and controlling them are two different things. Jesus showed strong emotions when he whipped the money changers and chased them out of the temple, but this was a mental decision he made. If a Second Degree Initiate shows strong emotions it is because he has made a decision to do so, not because he cannot control himself.

What you look for in a person who has attained emotional control is not emotional display (unless it is obviously with no control) but whether his decisions are made trough an illogical emotional base or by the mind. When you look at the results of Jobs decision making as a whole you can see that they elevated society much more on a mental level than an emotional one.

I know Sharón was on the show earlier. I suspect that she put in a good word for me.

 

Jan 29, 2014

The Mother of ALL Ironies.

What do you call a ship full of frozen, Global Warming scientists who are stuck in the ice in Antarctica during the Southern Hemisphere’s summer????

A: A really good start.

B: An Al Gore Carnival Cruise

C: The Mother of ALL Ironies.

D: All of the above.

I stole this off a comment page. Thought it was funny.

A question on the Bible of God

Tom:

Is some of the Bible written by prophets who God spoke to?

JJ

Many of the prophets were either inspired through the soul or received something from Higher Intelligence so in the way most people would interpret God, the answer is yes, many received information from God. But they wrote down the revelation in their own words which are always susceptible to error. Any writing must be interpreted through the soul.

 

Jan 31, 2014

Laggards

Ruth

If the Laggards had passed their initiations in the past Universe or Solar System, then the Laggards on Earth now would have been one of these exalted beings that come here to assist us….Yes? No? Or are these beings from the Sacred Planets and the Planet the laggards missed out on going to?

JJ

Laggards are laggards because they did not apply themselves in the last solar system. They are not initiates unless they recently attained that status. We can’t use the past universe (much further back in time) to measure our current progression because we started anew under new conditions in this universe.

 

Jan 31, 2014

Another Radio Interview

Here’s another interview with Dr. Lorraine Hurley

Hour One

Hour Two

“The purpose of life is to have fun!”

Glad you liked the interview Larry. I never put the purpose of life in those words before but that’s basically what it’s all about.

 

Feb 4, 2014

More on Perfection

Joan talks about the miraculous survival of Immaculee Iligebaza. I was fortunate enough to see Immaculee in person and heard her tell her story. She is indeed a person with great faith and I am sure was preserved for a reason.

Joan wants some clarification on God and perfection. She says:

“Can we hope to attain alignment with God….despite our current state of affairs? Can we still experience His perfection (Perfect Love, Compassion and Wisdom) in this life…… despite all of its (and our) suffering and pain?”

JJ

Humanity’s idea of what is perfected has been conjured up by our minds and defined by ourselves. It is quite a bit different than the idea of what perfection would be for a Higher Life, such as a Planetary or Solar Logos.

In other words, perfection is a relative thing – a moving target. What is perfection to a dog is a master that gives him all he can eat. What is perfection to a savage are happy hunting grounds and shooting arrows at game that never miss. What was perfection to the Seahawks was pretty much the Superbowl game they played on Sunday. What is perfection to a religious fundamentalist is to never act against anything written in the Bible, etc.

Yes, you can attain alignment with the will of God to a degree, but not without making some mistakes along the way. You can experience the Love of God by entering a state that lies beyond the imagination of the average person, but you will not stay in perfect oneness forever. You “will go in and out and find pasture.” John 10:9

Joan:

“Isn’t God still the Almighty, All Powerful, Omnipresent, Omniscient Perfect Being—regardless of what is manifest in the physical world? I believe All Is One and we have the potential, if not the absolute capacity—- to transcend all darkness in an instant. This belief is my daily reprieve from the suffering and devastation rampant in this earthy life.”

JJ

Every life, even God has limitations. God has incarnated in this universe and has been working on making it a fun place to live for billions of years. He just can’t snap his fingers and make all the lives or cells in his body, respond perfectly and treat each other in the ideal way. He is working toward an end where great joy for all will be the result, but most of the fun is getting to that end.

There are great lives above human that are very powerful and they would be judged to be all powerful gods to many average humans who would encounter them, but they have their own struggles toward their own ideas of perfection on their plane of being.

The worst hell that there could be would be to reach a state where there are no new challenges, where we just rest in some type of eternal perfection forever. If such a thing were to happen our life would dissolve and we would disappear into non existence. Eternal life is only attained by a willingness to encounter eternal challenges.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. Revelation 21:5

   “Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the days of old. Behold, I will do a NEW thing; now it shall spring forth….” (Isa 43:18-19)

Here is a dialog I wrote on the subject:

IS GOD PERFECT

QUESTION: Is God perfect?

ANSWER: Yes.

QUESTION: Then you believe that God does not make mistakes?

ANSWER: Yes. He doesn’t make mistakes.

QUESTION: Did God create you?

ANSWER: Yes.

QUESTION: Are you perfect?

ANSWER: No.

QUESTION: But if God created imperfect beings such as ourselves then God would have to be imperfect, wouldn’t he?

ANSWER: No. God is perfect and created us perfect, but He has given us our freewill and, using this freewill, we make imperfections.

QUESTION: But who created your freewill?

ANSWER: God.

QUESTION: So we come back to the same conclusion. God created you and your free will in an imperfect state. How can you believe that God is perfect?

ANSWER: You are twisting things. (This is the answer a person gives when he doesn’t want to face truth or admit that he has been wrong.)

QUESTION: Did God create the earth, the minerals, plants and animals?

ANSWER: Yes.

QUESTION: I notice that animals are also not perfect. Some get sick; others are dangerous and bite people. Did God make them imperfect?

ANSWER: I’m not sure.

QUESTION: How about plants and minerals? Very few crystals are nearly perfect and many plants are misshapen and off color. If God is perfect and He created everything, then why is everything not perfect?

ANSWER: It’s because of man’s original sin that all this imperfection came into the world.

QUESTION: But, apparently imperfection was already in the world, for the imperfect serpent was here when man arrived. Was man responsible for the creation of the imperfect serpent?

ANSWER: No.

QUESTION: So one must conclude that man is not responsible for all the imperfection in the world. Is this right?

ANSWER: I guess.

QUESTION: So who is responsible for imperfect creations?

ANSWER: The Devil. God makes things perfect, but man and the Devil corrupt them.

QUESTION: So when were you created perfect by God?

ANSWER: When I was born.

QUESTION: Are you saying then that all babies are perfect when they are born?

ANSWER: Well, I know that some are born without limbs and with defects. I must have been perfect when I was conceived.

QUESTION: But you were not created when you were conceived, and we know that nature aborts many conceptions, so even they are not perfect. If God is perfect and you are created at birth by Him, then why are not all babies perfect?

ANSWER: You are twisting things.

QUESTION: Do you really believe that God is perfect or is that just what you have been programmed to think?

ANSWER: You’ve got me confused. What’s your answer?

COMMENT: The word used in reference to the perfection of God and Jesus was TELEIOO which implies the finishing of a job, assignment or mission. Thus the Bible references of the perfection of Jesus and his Father imply that when they accept a mission they are able to successfully complete it.

The word that implies perfection as we use it today in relation top God was the Greek word AKRIBELA. This is the perfection which implies never making a mistake. The interesting thing is this word was never used in reference to Jesus, or even God for that matter. BUT it was used in reference to the belief system of those who crucified the Christ. They saw Jesus as far from flawless and therefore it would be blasphemous to assume that he was the son of God.

The scripture which reads: “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” Matt 5:48 is better translated as: “Therefore finish (or complete) the work you are given to do even as your Father in Heaven completes His.”

No creator, not even God manifests flawlessness at the beginning of his work, but when the end is approached then the creation is perfected.

Here are links to more writings on this subject:

 Is God all powerful?

 Is God perfect?

 

Feb 5, 2014

The Game of Life

During my last radio interview I made the rather controversial that the purpose of life is to have fun.

Ruth takes some issue with this statement and asks:

If God designed the Game of Life, and the Purpose of Life was Fun, then why isn’t the Game fun to play?

With all the pain and suffering on Earth, then how does one say to all the starving millions of people in Africa etc, to just go and have fun?

In fact, I thought Disciple School was more about placing our attention on the higher desires of Soul, rather than the lower desires of the Not Self.????

JJ

I’ve talked about the purpose of life numerous times in the past but never quite starkly equated it with having fun. I have taught that God was motivated to incarnate into the universe for the purpose of having experience and he designed the experience to be as interesting as possible just as we humans, who are reflections of God, design various games we play to achieve maximum entertainment value. In other words, the desired result of the playing of all games is to have fun, or to receive enjoyment and satisfaction from them.

Ruth tells us she is not having fun at the moment, as she is struggling with several aspects of her life, so this teaching seems to not be true. But let me ask you this. Are the successful games that turn out to be he most fun, pain and stress free? No. The games we like the most are those that have the potential for the greatest pain and have great risk. Let us examine two of them.

The most successful board game of all time is Monopoly. This can be a very aggravating and stressful game to play when you lose. You can get a bunch of motels and have lots of cash and then in your next couple moves you could lose it all which could make you feel like jumping up and down and screaming. But does this mean you are never going to play again? No. It will generally make you more determined to try again.

Why?

Because it’s fun.

And why is it fun when it sometimes makes you so angry?

Because the reward is great when you win.

At this moment, just a couple days after the 2014 Superbowl, there are probably few people on the planet in a more painful emotional state than the Denver quarterback, Payton Manning. His team was favored to win and he was being viewed and written about as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. He had just healed from a broken neck and some thought he may not play again, but he got back in the game this year and broke some new records and seemed to be doing better than ever. The only thing he needed to seal the deal on legend status was to win the Superbowl.

The big game began and they started the first drive. The crowd was roaring so loud you could barely hear yourself think. The center was having difficulty in hearing Payton’s instructions and thought he heard Manning tell him to hike the ball and he complied.

He heard wrong and the ball sailed over Manning’s head into the end zone. The famous quarterback did not have a clue the ball was coming and this led to a Safety which gave Seattle two points just 12 seconds into the game.

This screw-up caused Seattle to score with the shortest playing time in Superbowl history.

This one bad play, representing awful timing, set the tome for the whole game and the Broncos timing was off for the entire period. They wound up losing 43-8, a humiliating score.

Payton Manning was in a very painful and distressed emotional state for he not only didn’t seal the deal on his ranking with the greats in football but the whole team was very upset and felt down on their luck.

And it doesn’t end there. The Denver Bronco fans were expecting to celebrate at the end of the game but their heroes not only lost, but lost big. They felt humiliate, angry and many were downright depressed.

Payton Manning broke his neck, but came back and tried again only to end up with devastating humiliation. After all this physical and emotional pain do you suppose that he never wants to show his face on a football field again?

No. He will gladly play again.

How about the rest of the team? They are terribly upset. Will they play again?

Yes, gladly.

How about the Denver fans? Surely, they will stay away in the future after such a frustrating experience.

No. They will be back.

Why in the dickens to these people come back for more? Do they like pain?

No. They do not like the pain. They come back because he game is fun. They know you do not win all the time and if you did it wouldn’t be fun. But when you do win there is a thrill achieved that makes any pain or distress in the past worth the end result.

Yes, the thrill does not last forever, but if it did it wouldn’t be a thrill. We play the game of life and after a number of painful setbacks we win and achieve a wonderful state of being. After it subsides we move on to another goal or game and eventually achieve another thrill. This we do for all eternity.

Each new game is different and more challenging than the one before. There is no end to what we can achieve.

Ruth says she thought the purpose of life was more about Becoming or “placing our attention on the higher desires.”

And how do we become? We become by playing the game of life until we win and have fun at winning.

And why do we eventually place our attention on higher desires?

Because they supply more fun and joy than lower desires.

Whenever any of us reach a decision point we try and pick the path that will be the most fun, proactive and joyous to travel. Who in his right mind would pick a path that only leads to pain and nothing else?

You say that Jesus did when he chose the crucifixion.

Not so. It is written:

“Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Heb 12:2

Jesus realized that his part of the game had the risk of great pain, just as a good football player does. Even so, Jesus moved ahead with his plays, and why?

“For the joy that was set before him.”

An important point to remember in this discussion is that in playing te game of life we will often have dark areas to transverse which may occupy considerable time. If we play the game right they may only last a few years. If not we may have pain an entire lifetime or several lifetimes until we listen to our coach, the soul. Now sometimes, because of karma, it is very difficult to have much fun in a lifetime but generally bright spots can be managed if the person has the right attitude.

Count Cagliostro gave us a good example of how one can still play the game in the last couple years of his life when he was imprisoned and tortured. I may write a summary of this.

JJ

Feb 6, 2014

Playing the Game

DK tells us that Cagliostro was a previous life of HPB and in that life he/she made a lot of mistakes and set the work back. On the other hand, when he was imprisoned at the end of his life one can see that his soul was great despite his faults and making the best of his no-win situation prepared him for the success of his next life. Cagliostro gives us an example of how life can be interesting even in the most difficult of situations.

A good book on him is called The Last Alchemist.

Larry:

So was Cagliostro ever HPB?

JJ

That is what DK says.

Larry

You once pointed out Kennedy’s facial features and symmetry matched HPB (which also means facial recognition software would rank then highly probable the same person).

JJ

I doubt if facial recognition software would prove anything as people’s faces will change from lifetime to lifetime, though there will be similarities.

Soryn:

If JFK was HPB this has to be the most random death ever.

JJ

Jean Dixon became a famous psychic by predicting JFK’s assassination and she made this statement:

She said she had received a number of visions of future events and she got the impression that many of them were not set in stone and could be changed or prevented. But she said that when she saw the vision of the future assassination she got the impression that it was a part of our destiny and there was no preventing it. If that is true then luck may not have been a factor.

Larry

I think you may have even made that case citing their handwriting.

JJ

I wrote a major article comparing the handwriting of HPB and JFK but it was lost when I changed servers. When I get time I’ll have to put it up again.

Larry

But if he was both HPB and AAB and Kennedy, then his life as HPB would overlap with his life as AAB. Which is ok with me. But is that what you think is true?

JJ

No one I know of has said that HPB reincarnated as AAB. They are two separate entities.

Soryn:

If JFK was HPB this has to be the most random death ever.

JJ

Jean Dixon became a famous psychic by predicting JFK’s assassination and she made this statement:

She said she had received a number of visions of future events and she got the impression that many of them were not set in stone and could be changed or prevented. But she said that when she saw the vision of the future assassination she got the impression that it was a part of our destiny and there was no preventing it. If that is true then luck may not have been a factor.

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Feb 9, 2014
Avatars
Ruth asks: When DK says this:

“Such a man was Abraham Lincoln, coming forth from the very soul of a people, ”

What exactly does this mean?

JJ

Actually, DK wasn’t the first to say something like this. Many who have written about Lincoln have commented that the man seemed to come from the soul of America, or to represent the essence of the American spirit or the ideal.

Now this does not mean that the actual entity who was Lincoln was created by the soul of the people. What it does mean is that the soul of the people called an entity like this to come forth.

The entity who was Lincoln took on the rays and essential energies necessary to fulfill his mission as a racial avatar.

A thing that is not understood by many is how we as individual entities can take on different personalities as we move from life to life. This does not mean we become different people but we come under different influences.

Think of how different you act when you are in a state of joy compared to pain, in a good relationship vs a bad one, under a lot of pressure compared to having the wind at your back. Even so, in different lifetimes we are under different ray influences, different circumstances and different types of associates.

Lincoln is this referred to as coming from the soul of the people because this entity was sensitive to the group soul of the people, responded to it and subjected himself to the influences necessary to carry out a mission to benefit the group soul.

 

Feb 11, 2014
Giants in America
Here’s an interesting video on Giants in Ancient America.

 

Feb 16, 2014
Plural Marriage
Larry woods writes:
1) If John Taylor, Joseph Smith, and Jesus support polygamy, does it still serve a legitimate purpose today?

2) If Lorin’s record about this is wrong, then does this also invalidate the included prophecy about the one mighty and strong?

JJ
I wouldn’t guarantee that Jesus would support polygamy though I don’t see any big sin in it as long as it is done through no violation of free will. I think that a polygamous marriage would be much more difficult to bring balance than a one to one relationship.

Unfortunately, most polygamous marriages materialize because those involved think that this is what God wants them to do rather than considering what they need to do for their own happiness.

Lorin and others had a strong motive to create a version of the vision that agreed with their mindset so they could head up the kingdom. John Taylor may or may not of said the words attributed to him and if he did they may or may not have been correct. This is why it is so important to rely upon your own soul and not to do anything that will affect your life without inner confirmation.

 

Feb 20, 2014
Karma
Joan asks:
Every soul must incur many lifetimes in order to “perfect” himself (is what I am gathering from your posts and books). But does that mean we have to go through more suffering and repentance due to these sins in our collective history, in order for the waking up (and/or healing) process to manifest TODAY? or can we find ourselves in an instant ‘state of bliss’ by right thinking and manifest all that is good, due to not “identifying” with the past, and the suffering and darkness back then or even in our lives today?

JJ
All negative karma must be paid off, but there are two ways to do it. The first is through suffering. This requires a long period of time and it is not a fun thing to do.

The second is through service and this can be quite joyful.

No matter how much karma a person has he can through free will take a step toward the light and feel the joy of higher contact and of moving forward. It is not always immediate but it will come.

By the way, your website and artwork look great. Thanks for sharing.

You can read more about karma HERE

 

Feb 23, 2014
Can Karma Be Neutralized?
LWK writes:
I also wonder if the idea of exact repayment is somewhat off the mark too.

Something about forgiveness of sins, and by that I mean explicitly the possibility of the effects of sin being taken away, seems to be a part of the message of Jesus. Now I agree with you that the modern, most likely distorted message, of the church today is probably not exactly what was meant.

You mention in the quote above the Lords of Karma. Is it not possible that part of their job is not to just make sure that every cause is neutralized by an opposite and equal cause, but perhaps the very real possibility of neutralizing the effects when the effects have served their purpose, regardless of a mathematical accounting of cause and effect?

I don’t claim to know the answer, but it seems like an interesting idea that Jesus was indeed teaching the possibility, under some circumstances, of sins truly being forgiven in the sense of not always having to pay off the “last farthing.”

JJ
Good comments. Let us explore this a bit. First of all when the scriptures speak of forgiveness of sin what do they really mean?

Forgiveness in the Bible is translated from the Greek APHIEMI. The trouble is that this word does not mean forgiveness as we understand the word today, even though it seems to, when it is used in connection with the forgiveness of sins. But unknown to most the real meaning of the word is difficult to decipher and is translated a number of different ways. Here are some verses where the word APHIEMI is used

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Mark 7:8 For LAYING ASIDE (APHIEMI) the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

Matt 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have FORSAKEN (APHIEMI) all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

Matt 19:29 And every one that hath FORSAKEN (APHIEMI) houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

John 14:18 I will not LEAVE (APHIEMI) you comfortless: I will come to you.

John 14:27 Peace I LEAVE (APHIEMI) with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I LEAVE (APHIEMI) the world, and go to the Father.

Matt 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, YIELDED UP (APHIEMI) the ghost.

Now if you substitute the modern word forgiveness in each of the above cases you will see that it just does not make consistent sense. For instance, in Mark 7:8 do we forgive the commandment of God? Or in Matt 27:50 did Jesus forgive the ghost when he seemed to die?

If you go through the New Testament and examine all the places where APHIEMI is used you will see that the most consistent meaning of the word is “to give up, let go, yield or release.”

Now in this light let us retranslate the Biblical term “forgiveness of sins.” A much more accurate translation would be “the letting go or giving up of error.”

The error that Jesus released the people from was guilt. When the scripture speaks of sin as if it was he cause of disease, what was really connected with it was guilt. When forgiveness of sin seemed to be the healing factor what happened was that the person affected saw God as working in Jesus so he saw his words as coming from God. This gave Jesus power to release various people from guilt.

On the other hand, forgiveness by any definition does not release one from effects. The law of cause and effect is binding upon all, even God.

The Aquarian Gospel presents the disciples as wondering about cause and effect as have you.

Chapter 138
THE Lord with Peter, James and John were in Jerusalem; it was the Sabbath day.
2 And as they walked along the way they saw a man who could not see; he had been blind from birth.
3 And Peter said, Lord, if disease and imperfections all are caused by sin, who was the sinner in this case? the parents or the man himself?
4 And Jesus said, Afflictions all are partial payments on a debt, or debts, that have been made.
5 There is a law of recompense that never fails, and it is summarised in that true rule of life:
6 Whatsoever man shall do to any other man some other man will do to him.
7 In this we find the meaning of the Jewish law, expressed concisely in the words, Tooth for a tooth; life for a life.
8 He who shall injure any one in thought, or word, or deed, is judged a debtor to the law, and some one else shall, likewise, injure him in thought, or word or deed.
9 And he who shed the blood of any man will come upon the time when his blood shall be shed by man.
10 Affliction is a prison cell in which a man must stay until he pays his debts unless a master sets him free that he may have a better chance to pay his debts.
11 Affliction is a certain sign that one has debts to pay.
12 Behold this man! Once in another life he was a cruel man, and in a cruel way destroyed the eyes of one, a fellow man.
13 The parents of this man once turned their faces on a blind and helpless man, and drove him from their door.
14 Then Peter asked, Do we pay off the debts of other men when by the Word we heal them, drive the unclean spirits out, or rescue them from any form of sore distress?
15 And Jesus said, We cannot pay the debts of any man, but by the Word we may release a man from his afflictions and distress,
16 And make him free, that he may pay the debts he owes, by giving up his life in willing sacrifice for men, or other living things.
17 Behold, we may make free this man that he may better serve the race and pay his debts.
18 Then Jesus called the man and said, Would you be free? would you receive your sight?
19 The man replied, All that I have would I most freely give if I could see.
20 And Jesus took saliva and a bit of clay and make a salve, and put it on the blind man’s eyes.
21 He spoke the Word and then he said, Go to Siloam and wash, and as you wash say, Jahhevahe. This do for seven times and you shall see.
22 The man was led unto Siloam; he washed his eyes and spoke the word, and instantly his eyes were opened and he saw.

Here we see that the man was healed but still had a debt, but it wasn’t to be paid in kind: “Behold, we may make free this man that he may better serve the race and pay his debts.”

But what happens if we just decide to forgive a debt? Is all neutralized? Take a look at this parable:

Matt 18:23″The Kingdom of Heaven can be compared to a king who decided to bring his accounts up to date. 24In the process, one of his debtors was brought in who owed him $10 million! 25He couldn’t pay, so the king ordered him sold for the debt, also his wife and children and everything he had.
26″But the man fell down before the king, his face in the dust, and said, ‘Oh, sir, be patient with me and I will pay it all.’
27″Then the king was filled with pity for him and released him and forgave his debt.
28″But when the man left the king, he went to a man who owed him $2,000 and grabbed him by the throat and demanded instant payment.
29″The man fell down before him and begged him to give him a little time. ‘Be patient and I will pay it,’ he pled.
30″But his creditor wouldn’t wait. He had the man arrested and jailed until the debt would be paid in full.
31″Then the man’s friends went to the king and told him what had happened. 32And the king called before him the man he had forgiven and said, ‘You evil-hearted wretch! Here I forgave you all that tremendous debt, just because you asked me to 33 shouldn’t you have mercy on others, just as I had mercy on you?’
34″Then the angry king sent the man to the torture chamber until he had paid every last penny due. 35So shall my heavenly Father do to you if you refuse to truly forgive your brothers.” (From the Living Bible)

Notice that after the man had his debt forgiven that he had an opportunity to pay off part of his karma by doing the same thing. But because he refused to cooperate with taking the easy way out he was forced to pay his debt the hard way.

Let us say that a man steals $100 from you and you discover it and confront him. He admits to the crime but says he doesn’t have the money to repay you. You decide to forgive him if he promises to not do it again.

Is the effect of the crime neutralized?

First of all you are still out $100. Your forgiveness did nothing to change that. Secondly, just like the man in the parable, the thief will be given opportunities to forgive others who have wronged him. If he cooperates the debt will be paid the easy way. If he acts contrary to the cause you passed to him with your forgiveness then he will have to pay the hard way. The punishment may not come from your hand but it will come from someone who will carry it out.

Learning our lessons diminishes the effect of karma and allows us to pay it off through serving and helping others rather than undergoing lots of personal pain.

 

Feb 24, 2014
Questions
Joan asks:
Should we not attempt to understand it (irritation)? Should we not “feel the feelings” and examine what is at the root cause of the irritation– so we don’t repress it and end up producing an even bigger shadow?…Will this help to pay off the “karma of irritation” or am I wasting time? Should I throw away the guilt and try to just “shift my attention”?

JJ
Negative feelings should never be suppressed or denied but must be understood, dealt with and sent to their right place. Denial and suppression gives the negative feelings power to diminish your physical and spiritual energy and can lead to disease.

If someone irritates you then you must learn how to neutralize this negative emotion without injuring yourself.

What I do is to use the Lion Principle. If you get in a cage with a lion he will most likely do you a lot of damage and this could be very irritating. When looking at the caged lion you know he can kill you but you do not get irritated at his behavior. Why.

Because he’s a lion and that is his nature and there is nothing you can do about it. If you do not accept the lion for what he is you could be irritated all the time.

Even so, irritating people are what they are whether they are in our lives or not. If we let them get to us then that is like entering the cage with the lion. Keep your emotional distance and realize that they just are what they are and there is generally nothing you can do to change them.

If I find another person irritating or obnoxious I take the vantage point of the observer so they rarely affect my emotional body no matter what they do. Then I make no effort to include them in my life.

Irritation and guilt are two different things. You can suffer some irritation without having any guilt associated with it. Guilt is cause by the illusion that an outside voice represents God and you are making God unhappy with you.

Ruth:
I am amazed and impressed that JJ types so well, considering he only has one working hand with all the fingers attached.

Or does Artie do the typing?

JJ
If I had to depend on Artie to type for me you wouldn’t be hearing much from me.

I do all my own typing using my one good hand. The biggest disadvantage is I have to look at the keyboard and do not catch mistakes on the screen as I type. My first draft always has a lot of typos.

I’ve tried dictation software in the past but it wasn’t any faster than my typing after I made the adjustments. I haven’t tried the latest version and realize they are improving so maybe the next time I try it my typing speed will increase.

Ruth wants to know if we have to take emotional abuse from our kids or just let them go and find their own way.

When kids become adults the good and bad they get from parents is pretty much ingrained and creating change is difficult at that point. You need to let them go as much as possible. On the other hand, if they need help and you see that you can offer help then as a parent you feel an obligation to do what you can. There is no easy solution to assisting a difficult child.

An interesting point is this. Our children often come as packages to teach us lessons and one of the main things they reflect back to us are things inside ourselves that we suppress or deny.

Let us say, for instance, that you do not stand up for yourself. You may wind up with a child who stands up for herself so much that you find her difficult to manage and dealing with her takes a lot of your attention.

Let us say you are very judgmental toward gays. You may wind up with a kid who is gay etc.

Ruth asks if we have to take emotional abuse from our kids?

Answer: Anyone can dish out emotional abuse and each of us needs to neutralize it whatever the source may be. Family members take the most wisdom here because you just can’t always snap your fingers and get them out of your lives. If you have to deal with negativity the Lion Principle is one good ingredient to use.

If you find that certain people are in your life and causing you grief over a period of time then there is probably a past life connection and a lesson involved where you need to learn to either deal with the situation or master it.

Ruth:
I seem to be going through a really unstable time at the moment, so I try to view this hard time as a karmic lesson for me because of mistakes I made in the past.

JJ
You can’t do anything about the past, but you can make a difference in the present. Seek to know what you can do to improve your situation right now. It would be helpful to visit a counselor or third party with your girls and after both of you give your side to the story see what advice an impartial observer would have.

 

Feb 26, 2014
Origin of the Book of Mormon

Jason sent me an interesting link on a new study concerning the origin of the Book of Mormon. You can check it out HERE.

The video is over an hour so if you want to read a blog on it go HERE

The guy repeats a lot of what critics in the past have said but then adds a new item of research. Since the Book of Mormon was published in 1830 he decided to run all the published works available before that time (over 130,000) through a computer program and compare it to the book of Mormon and check for similarity of writing mode.

I watched the video and read several articles on this and found several points where he presents reasonable evidence such as anachronisms, like steel, wheels, European animals etc. This point is a good one and has been made many times before.

I don’t see the fact that some phraseology, names etc are similar to other books as giving much weight to the argument against the book. If he were translating a book written in symbolic language then he would have to make the translation using words and phrases that he is familiar with. Since we know he read the Bible then naturally we would expect some similarities there as well as other books he may have read. One can also expect to see some similarities with books that he has not read – just because of natural coincidence.

I can’t find any direct evidence of plagiarism. Real plagiarism involves line by line copying or at least copying close enough that it would be obvious even to believers. Natural similarities occur with all books. You would be surprised at how many people have written me thinking I got my ideas from books that I have never heard of – or that my writing style is similar etc. Then when I check them out I just don’t see what they are talking about.

As far as the Book of Mormon copying mistakes in the Bible goes I will say this, many of the supposed errors are not agreed upon by scholars.

Secondly, the copying of the Bible was not a translation but merely a copying of the Bible because it was close enough. For instance, the scholar Dan Vogle gives evidence that Joseph Smith was out of town when Isaiah was written for the Book of Mormon. He thinks that Oliver just copied it from the Bible and when Joseph returned he merely checked it over.

I have no problem with that. I may have done the same thing if I were translating an actual record with Isaiah in it.

As for New Testament phrases – I have no problem with them. If the phrase fit the thought then why not use it? If I were to translate Plato I would use lots of modern phases that Plato did not have available.

Now it looks like Joseph Smith did lie about polygamy. The evidence is pretty overwhelming. If he deceived about one thing ten the probability of finding deception in another is high.

If the Book of Mormon is a fabrication of a mortal man then it would have had to have been Joseph who authored it. No one else he associated with was capable of it.

If it is a total fabrication written by him then I would consider this to be a greater miracle than the actual story presented. All that he pulled off would be very difficult to do, such as writing a book that fooled millions of people, predicting witnesses to the plates and then manifesting them, and convincing a number of scribes that he was translating from the plates live.

His mother said that he didn’t read as much as the rest of the family, that about all he read was the Bible, yet if the critics are right he must have been extremely well read at the age of 23.

Other books of supernatural origin had a much simpler origin. Books such as the Koran, A Course in Miracles, Urantia and Oaspe were merely channeled from the unseen world. All the author had to do was write the message down and present it to the world as inspired.

The Book of Mormon origin is much more complex and if one of its ingredients is definitely proven false the whole thing falls apart. Here are some.

(1) An angel gives Joseph the golden plates.
(2) 11 witnesses claim to have seen the plates and three of them claim to have been presented the plates by an angel.
(3) Joseph translates or produces the record by looking at a seer stone in a hat and not writing it down himself but dictating it to at least three different scribes. This would be very difficult to do if he were just making it up as he went. Much more difficult than say taking time to write A Course in Miracles.

There are numerous accounts of the witnesses to the plates that are difficult to dismiss. Here are a couple:

I was plowing in the field one morning, and Joseph [Smith] and Oliver [Cowdery] came along with a revelation stating that I was to be one of the witnesses to the Book of Mormon. I got over the fence and we went out into the woods, near by, and sat down on a log and talked awhile … when all at once a light came down from above us and encircled us for quite a little distance around; and the angel stood before us … dressed in white … A table was set before us and on it the records … from which the Book of Mormon was translated … While we were viewing them the voice of God spoke out of heaven saying that the Book was true and the translation correct. ‚ÄîDavid Whitmer, interview, Saints’ Herald, 1882.

In 1847, Hiram Page said: To say my mind was so treacherous that I have forgotten what I saw, to say that a man of Joseph’s ability, who at that time did not know how to pronounce the word Nephi, could write a book of six hundred pages, as correct as the book of Mormon without supernatural power . . . it would be treating the God of heaven with contempt, to deny these testimonies.
Joseph Smith the First Mormon Page 92

Here’s my best guess so far.

Joseph did have some spiritual experiences along with past life memories of life in Ancient America. He translated book through a channeling process connecting with his higher self as well as other entities that may have been assisting him. It is possible that Joseph thought the book was 100% true even though some of it was derived from illusionary thoughtforms and human error. On the other hand, some of the stories are based on actual events gathered from spiritual discernment and past life memories.

Were there really actual ancient gold plates involved or were there plates that existed on etheric levels? That is the big question. He definitely had something physical that were represented to be golden plates. Critics think he manufactured something of his own out of tin.

Hopefully, we can one day learn the outer truth. Whatever the case there are many teachings and examples of right action in the book that speak to the soul and that is why the book is accepted by millions.

More on the Origin of the Book of Mormon
Here is an except from Wikipedia of the pros and cons of the various things in the Book of Mormon that critics deem as out of place.

Old World species
Horses
A tapir – Some Mormon apologists believe that the word “horse” in the Book of Mormon refers to a tapir in order to explain the anachronism.

Horses are mentioned eleven times in the Book of Mormon in the context of its New World setting.[32] There is no evidence that horses existed on the American continent during the 2500-3000 year history of the Book of Mormon (2500 BC Р400 AD) The only evidence of horses on the American continent dates to pre-historic times,[33] (between 12,500 and 10,000 BC.[34]). It is widely accepted that horses were extinct in the Western Hemisphere over 10,000 years ago and did not reappear there until the Spaniards brought them from Europe.[35] Horses were re-introduced to the Americas (Caribbean) by Christopher Columbus in 1493[36] and to the American continent by Cortés in 1519.[37][38]
See also: Quaternary extinction event

Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this supposed anachronism:

Mormon apologist John L. Sorenson at FARMS claims that there is fossil evidence that some New World horses may have survived the Pleistocene–Holocene transition,[39] though these findings are disputed by mainstream archaeologists.[40]
Mormon apologist Robert R. Bennett suggests that the word “horse” in the Book of Mormon may have referred to a different animal, such as a tapir.[41]

Elephants
Mastodons existed in the Americas, but are known to have gone extinct by 10,000 B.C.

Elephants are mentioned twice in a single verse in the earliest Book of Mormon record, the Book of Ether.[42] Mastodons and mammoths lived long ago in the New World; however, as with the prehistoric horse, the archaeological record indicates that they became extinct along with most of the megafauna in the New World around 10,000 BC. The source of this extinction is speculated to be the result of human predation, a significant climate change, or a combination of both factors.[43][44] A very small population of mammoths survived on St. Paul Island, Alaska, up until 3700 BC,[45] but is still several thousand years before the time period where “elephants” are mentioned in the Book of Mormon.
See also: Quaternary extinction event

Apologists deal with the “elephant” in much the same way as they treat the “horse” anachronism; countering with the following arguments:

Various amateur archaeologists and LDS authors have cited controversial evidence that North American mound builder cultures were familiar with the elephant.[46] This evidence has long been a topic of debate with most archaeologists concluding that the elephantine remains were improperly dated, misidentified, or openly fraudulent.[47]

Cattle and cows
Llamas are the only large mammal known to have been domesticated in the Americas.

There are six references to cattle made in the Book of Mormon, including verbiage suggesting they were domesticated.[48] While the Book of Mormon may follow the common Biblical precedent of referring to all domesticated animals as cattle,[49] there is no evidence that Old World cattle (members of the genus Bos) inhabited the New World prior to European contact in the 16th century AD. Further, there is currently no archeological evidence of American bison having been domesticated.[50] It is widely accepted that the only large mammal to be domesticated in the Americas was the llama and that no species of goats, deer, or sheep were domesticated before the arrival of the Europeans to the continent.

Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

Some Mormon apologists believe that the term “cattle,” as used in the Book of Mormon is more general and does not exclusively mean members of the genus Bos. Thus, they claim the term “cattle” may refer to mountain goats; llamas; or the ancestor of the American bison, Bison antiquus (of the sub family Bovinae).[51]

Sheep

“Sheep” are mentioned in the Book of Mormon as being raised in the Americas by the Jaredites between 2500 BC and 600 BC. Another verse mentions “lamb-skin” worn by armies of robbers(~ AD 21) [52] However, Domestic sheep are known to have been first introduced to the Americas during the second voyage of Columbus in 1493.

Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

One apologist claims that sheep wool has been found in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica[53] This is disputed by mainstream archaeologists.[citation needed]
Some suggest that the word “sheep” may refer to another species of animal that resembled sheep such as Big horn sheep or llamas.[54] Critics point out that Big horn sheep have never been domesticated by humans.

Goats
Brocket deer – Some LDS apologists believe that “goat” in the Book of Mormon refers to brocket deer in order to explain the apparent anachronism.

Goats are mentioned three times in the Book of Mormon[55] placing them among the Nephites and the Jaredites (i.e. between 2500 BC and 400 AD). In two of the verses, “goats” are distinguished from “wild goats” indicating that there were at least two varieties, one of them possibly domesticated or tamed.

Domestic goats are known to have been introduced on the American continent by Europeans in the 15th century,[citation needed] 1000 years after the conclusion of the Book of Mormon, and nearly 2000 years after goats are last mentioned in the Book of Mormon. The aggressive mountain goat is indigenous to North America. There is no evidence that it was ever domesticated.

Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

Apologist Matthew Roper of FARMS points out that 16th-century Spanish friars used the word “goat” to refer to native Mesoamerican brocket deer.[56]

Swine

The Book of Mormon suggests that swine existed and were domesticated among the Jaredites.[57] There have not been any remains, references, artwork, tools, or any other evidence suggesting that swine were ever present in the pre-entrada New World.

Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

Some apologists argue that the word “swine” refers to Peccaries[58] (also known as Javelinas), an animal that bears a superficial resemblance to pigs.
Critics rebut that there is no archeological evidence that peccaries have ever been domesticated.[59]

Barley and wheat
Wheat was domesticated in the Old World and was introduced on the American continent by Europeans.

“Barley” is mentioned three times in the Book of Mormon narrative dating to the 1st and 2nd century BC.[60] “Wheat” is mentioned once in the Book of Mormon narrative dating to the same time period.[61] The introduction of domesticated modern barley and wheat to the New World was made by Europeans after 1492, many centuries after the time in which the Book of Mormon is set.[citation needed]

Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

FARMS apologist Robert Bennett argues[62] that the words “barley” and “wheat” in the Book of Mormon may actually be referring to other crops in the Americas, such as Hordeum pusillum[63] (though Hordeum pusillum was unknown in Mesoamerica and only found to be domesticated in North America).
Bennett also postulates that words may refer to genuine varieties of New World barley and wheat, which are as yet undiscovered in the archaeological record.

Additionally, apologists such as Robert R. Bennett also note that the Norse, after reaching North America, claimed to have found what they called “self-sown wheat”.[64]

Critics[citation needed] reject the notion that Hordeum pusillum was the “barley” referred to in the Book of Mormon. They also note that the earliest mention of barley in the Book of Mormon dates to 121 BC.[65] which is several hundred years prior to the date given for the recent discovery of domesticated Hordeum pusillum in North America.
Silk

The Book of Mormon mentions the use of silk six times.[66] “Silk” is commonly understood to mean the material that is created from the cocoon of the Asian moth Bombyx mori.

Apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

Mormon apologist John Sorenson believes that there are several other materials which were used in Mesoamerica anciently which could be the “silk” referred to in the Book of Mormon, including material spun from the hair of rabbit’s bellies, the pods of the ceiba tree, or an unidentified wild silkworm.[67][68]

Old World artifacts and products
Chariots or wheeled vehicles
Chariots depicted in a Mesopotamian relief circa 2500 B.C. Evidence of wheeled vehicles has not been found in the Americas.

The Book of Mormon contains two accounts of chariots being used in the New World.[69]

Critics argue that there is no archaeological evidence to support the use of wheeled vehicles in Mesoamerica, especially since many parts of ancient Mesoamerica were not suitable for wheeled transport. Clark Wissler, the Curator of Ethnography at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, noted:

“…we see that the prevailing mode of land transport in the New World was by human carrier. The wheel was unknown in pre-Columbian times.”[70]

A comparison of the South American Inca civilization to Mesoamerican civilizations shows the same lack of wheeled vehicles. Although the Incas used a vast network of paved roads (see Inca road system), these roads are so rough, steep, and narrow that they appear to be unsuitable for wheeled use. Bridges that the Inca people built, and even continue to use and maintain today in some remote areas, are straw-rope bridges so narrow (about 2–3 feet wide) that no wheeled vehicle can fit (see image and technology at Inca rope bridges). Inca roads were used mainly by chaski message runners and llama caravans.

Some Mormon apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

One apologist has suggested that the chariots mentioned in the Book of Mormon might refer to mythic or cultic wheeled vehicles.[71]
Some apologists point out that pre-Columbian wheeled toys have been found in Mesoamerica indicating that the wheel was known by ancient American peoples.[72][73]
One LDS apologist argues that few chariot fragments have been found in the Middle East dating to Biblical times (apart from the disassembled chariots found in Tutankhamun’s tomb), and therefore wheeled chariots did exist in ancient America and it is not unreasonable that archaeologists have not discovered any evidence of them.[74]
Critics counter that although few fragments of chariots have been found in the Middle East, there are many images of ancient chariots on pottery and frescoes and in many sculptures of Mediterranean origin, thus confirming their existence in those societies. The absence of these images among pre-Columbian artwork found in the New World, they state, does not support the existence of Old World–style chariots in the New World.
Finally, one apologist speculates that the word “chariot” in the Book of Mormon may refer to a non-wheeled vehicle.[75]

Iron and steel
Aztec warriors brandishing maquahuitl, which are made of stone. From the 16th century Florentine Codex, Vol. IX.

Steel and iron are mentioned several times in the Book of Mormon.[76] No evidence has been found in North, Central, or South America of iron being hardened anciently to make “steel”.

Though researchers have shown that primitive metallurgy existed in South America, metal production was only used for adornment purposes. The very earliest metal working there dates to 200 AD with the Moche culture[original research?].[citation needed] This dates thousands of years after the Jaredite civilization is alleged to have existed and 800 years after the alleged beginning of the Nephite civilization in the Book of Mormon. Metallurgy spread to Central America by 800 AD (long after the Book of Mormon record closes).[original research?][citation needed]

Between 2004 and 2007, a Purdue University archaeologist, Kevin J. Vaughn, discovered a 2000 year old hematite mine near Nazca, Peru. Although hematite is today mined as an iron ore, Vaughn believes that the hematite was then being mined for use as red pigment. There are also numerous excavations that included iron minerals.[77] He noted:

“Even though ancient Andean people smelted some metals, such as copper, they never smelted iron like they did in the Old World…Metals were used for a variety of tools in the Old World, such as weapons, while in the Americas, metals were used as prestige goods for the wealthy elite.”[78]

Apologists counter that the word “steel”, as used in the Book of Mormon, likely refers to a hardened metal other than iron. This argument follows from the fact that the Book of Mormon refers to certain Old World articles made of “steel”.[79] Similar “steel” articles mentioned in the King James Version of the Bible are actually hardened copper.[80] It has been amply demonstrated that much of the terminology of the English Book of Mormon, parallels the Authorized King James Bible.[81] Copper and its alloys have the ability to corrode, thus satisfying the description of “blades” which had “cankered with rust”.[citation needed] Ancient mound building cultures of North America are known to have worked copper, silver, gold and meteoric iron, although no instances of metallic blades or of deliberately alloyed (or “hardened”) copper have been uncovered from ancient North America.[82]
Metal swords, which had “rusted”

The Book of Mormon makes numerous references to swords and their use in battle.[83] When the remnants of the Jaredites’ final battle were discovered, the Book of Mormon narrative states that “the blades thereof were cankered with rust.”[84]

Apologists counter that most references to swords do not speak of the material they were made of, and that they may refer to a number of weapons such as the Macuahuitl, a “sword” made of obsidian blades that was used by the Aztecs. It was very sharp and could decapitate a man or horse.[85] However obsidian (volcanic glass), cannot rust.
Cimiters

Scimitars (‘Cimiters’) are mentioned about ten times in the Book of Mormon as existing hundreds of years before the term was first coined.[86] The word “cimiter” (Scimitar) is considered an anachronism since the word was never used by the Hebrews (from which the Book of Mormon peoples came) or any other civilization prior to 450 AD.[87]

The word cimiter (scimitar) has at different times referred to a long curved sword used by the Persians and Turks, a smaller curved knife similar to the kopis of the Turks, or makhaira of the Greeks.

Apologists argue the following to deal with this anachronism:

Apologists Michael R. Ash and William Hamblin postulate that the word was chosen by Joseph Smith as the closest workable English word for a short curved weapon used by the Nephites.
Full Article HERE

 

Feb 27, 2014
Another One Mighty and Strong

The Prophecy Keep guy mentioned Steven C Davis and referenced his site so I checked him out. Looks like we have one more guy telling us to follow him because he is the One Mighty and Strong. It would be nice if just one of these guys who make such claims would tell us to follow his mighty and strong works that are demonstrated rather than mere claims of power.

Jesus would be a good example to follow. He made no claims but just wandered into town and did some mighty works and then people began to ask, “Who is this Mighty and Strong One? Could it be the Christ?

I will give Davis credit for this though. His teachings are more interesting and in alignment with truth than most of the other Might and Strong claimers that I have encountered. I at least agree with some of the things he says. Other things, not so much.

Here are a few of the things he teaches.

Lucifer is really God’s wife who rebelled against him and was cast out of heaven. She has been deceiving the world for the past 6000 years. She and God are to incarnate 33 times each and their first incarnation was as Adam and Eve. Eve/Lucifer is responsible for the suppression of women over the millennia.

Now this latter claim makes little sense. Why would a female Lucifer promote the dominance of men over women so that women have been treated like property through the ages? You’d think she would want it the other way around.

He talks about his mission to present the original Book of Mormon before it was edited as if this is some great revelation. Actually the unedited version has been available since I have been acquainted with Mormonism.

The unedited version indicates that Jesus is both God the Father and the Son and this is a core doctrine for him.

He believes the millennium started April 6, 2000. I would guess he predicted this date and no great change occurred so he added in a 40-year grace period. But he still says that date marked the beginning of the prophesied millennium. The trouble is that it doesn’t mark any change of significance.

He believes polygamy was a mistake inspired by the female Lucifer, partly to keep females in bondage. I agree it was a mistake but why would a female Lucifer be so down on her own kind?
He thinks that Joseph Smith saw the error of polygamy just before his death and his desire to correct his mistake was part of the reason for his death. This is a possibility.

He sees the blood oaths of the temple ceremonies as a mistake as I do.

He believes in building cities of light.

If you want to check out his teachings here are two websites.

Website One

Website Two

 

March 3, 2014
Channeling
Prophecy Guy
I have read so many “channelings” that are contradictory of each other that I find the entire concept totally ridiculous.

JJ
That’s because channelings comes from many sources just as philosophies do. just like one does not automatically rule out all philosophies (such as in the Bible) as being untrue just because they all do not agree even so channelings or any other teachings must be ran by the soul to discover if they are true.

To accept or deny something just because of an outside authority disagrees is to have the mark of he beast.

Prophecy Guy
God’s house is not a house of disorder.

JJ
And where is this house where there is no disorder? This would be a good question for the group.

Prophecy Guy
The Law of Moses remained exactly the same… it as never been cancelled or superseded…or God is a liar.

JJ
So then do you think Sabbath breakers and unruly kids should be put to death then? I know you said that it is rare today, but the scripture does not say the punishment is to be rare. It is written like it should always be executed.

Prophecy Guy
I am afraid you mix apples and oranges. Mediums peep and mutter.

Mediums don’t use The Urim and Thummim used by Abrahamic prophets and seers.

JJ
It appears that you do not know what a channeler is. It is a person who transmits information from one source to another.

There are unconscious channelers which are the traditional mediums and there are conscious channelers such as Joseph Smith, Alice A Bailey and the prophets. If you want to read some real truth and light read some of the Bailey writings.

 

March 3, 2014
More on Karma
lwk
There is also the word APHESIS (859) which doesn’t appear nearly as often, but looks to most often translated as “remission” as in “remission of sins.”

I searched the older archives and have yet to find a case of you discussing that word.

JJ
The core meaning of this word is “release,” so a remission of sins means to be released from error. That’s very similar to APHIEMI which means “to give up, let go, yield or release.” In fact they both come from the same root word APO.

lwk
I am not totally convinced that there is not some component of forgiveness in the message that Jesus preached and which people found so exciting at that time. Clearly Jesus healed people who apparently suffered illnesses due to their sins and also apparently Jesus in some way wiped out some consequences of their sins (although he warned the might suffer worse if they went back to their old way.

JJ
Yes, you are right Jesus wiped out the consequences of sin, which is error or illusion, but he did not alter the Law of Cause and Effect. The Law of Cause and Effect cannot be altered. Once a cause is in motion its effects can only be changed with the addition of new causes.

Let me explain further. In what religion calls sin there are two types of effects created. One is created by the action or the deed, and the other is created, not by action, but by the illusion or error in the mind of the perpetrator and the victim when he holds a grievance by not forgiving.

Let me give some examples.

Let us pick on the one the individuals that Jesus healed by forgiving his sins. What sin could have been so bad that it caused an illness and how was that illness induced? It could have been any action that the sinner thought offended God. For instance, he could have merely broken the Sabbath for the first time in his life and suffered tremendous guilt from it. The action of working on the Sabbath will not make you ill, but guilt from breaking the commandment can.

The guilt is caused by illusion or error and that is what Jesus had power to remit so the man could be healed.

BUT the effects of working on the Sabbath remain. As Jesus said “the Sabbath was made for man.” In other words, it is a principle to help us and we need to give ourselves a Sabbath of rest so we can recharge, look within and take our minds off the cares of the world.

Those who gives themselves a Sabbath of rest are better off than those who do not. Working on one Sabbath would have an effect, but it would be small, nothing compared to the error of guilt a man can suffer for thinking he is making God angry at him.

Example Two
Jim steals $1000 from his neighbor Al. Then Jim gets a bad case of the flu and Al feels bad for him and shovels he snow off his walk and then asks if there is anything else he can do while bedridden.

Al’s kindness makes Jim feel terrible and he finds himself ridden with guilt. Even after recovering from the flu the guilt bothers him more than being sick did.

Finally he confesses and also apologizes that he doesn’t have the money to pay him back. Al is one heck of a nice guy so he forgives the debt and tells Jim to do the same for someone else in the future.

This confession relieves Jim of the illusion of guilt but the effects of his theft remain. Al is still out $1000 and Jim has $1000 more than he had before. Since Al does not want to be repaid Jim must now look for opportunities to pay for that stolen $1000 in service and future forgiveness of the debts of others.

The illusion of guilt can be nullified by adding causes that will bring understanding that takes it away. Not even God can take away the effects of a cause. All God or man can do is work with cause and effect to bring about a desired end.

Stephen:
I would even suggest that ‘Love’ holds ‘no’ karmic contract. How can it when its purpose is Unity and Oneness? A reasonable question then would be ‘Does Love actually undermine or even heal karmic debt?’
JJ
Producing unity and oneness has nothing to do with nullifying karma. Love works with cause and effect and inspires the initiation of causes that produces good effects. If Al loves Jim even though he stole $1000 it does not nullify the effect that he is out $1000. It doesn’t matter how much Al loves, it will not make the $1000 materialize in his hand.

The benefit of love is that it inspires causes that creates constructive effects. Al’s love toward Jim will probably cause him to cease being a thief and that is a good thing. The sin is forgiven, in other words, the error is corrected.

 

March 4
Karma Again
lwk on karma
I can see a possibility that God has a basic law but does not require it be enforced with mathematical purity (like gravity), but rather allows that it has a purpose, and these intelligences that watch are capable of assessing the true state of a person’s soul and when true forgiveness serves a real purpose of the creator of the law.

JJ
Yes, you are on the right track here. If a person does not learn his lessons then he will have to suffer as he made others suffer so he can understand what his victims went through. But if he learns his lesson then he can pay his debt through more productive means.

Let us take Bernie Madoff for example. Through his Ponzie scheme investors lost around $18 billion with him and this has caused an untold amount of grief to many people.

He has been placed in jail for the rest of his life. This may give the victims a little satisfaction and cause him to reflect a bit on his actions, but if he had it to do all over again and could get away with it then he would probably defraud people all over again.

Let us look at a possible scenario as to a possible fate for him.

Bernie dies in prison and reborn a few years later and has not yet learned his lesson. He is still devious and still schemes to defraud. He attempts the same thing all over again but instead of getting away with it for decades he gets caught right away and sent to prison. After he gets out he creates another scam and gets sent back again. Near the end of his life he reflects on how his life is just not working and gets converted to Jesus and decides to go strait.

He dies a short time later and in his next life he is quite religious and tries to run a legitimate business with a good Christian partner. The partner has a gambling habit and withdraws all their money from the account and loses it all. Bernie is devastated and looks to the skies and says, “Why God, is this happening to me?”

He starts anew and saves a little money and invests it in get rich quick schemes. In each case the companies were fraudulent and Bernie loses all he had. Again, he looks to the skies and asks, “Why God, is this happening to me?”

Bernie goes through a couple lifetimes having extremely bad luck in trusting people. He thinks to himself, “I’ve always tried to live the good Christian life and treat people fairly but how is it that so many people betray me? It just doesn’t seem fair.” Bernie then vows to himself that he is never going to be like those evildoers who have taken advantage of him. He is going to treat people fair and square because he knows what it’s like to be betrayed and it indeed hurts.

His soul then determines that he has paid off the first stage of his karma. He’s learned what it is like to be betrayed and suffer loss because of it. He has learned his lesson. He has two things that must be made right. He has caused financial loss and lots of emotional pain and has only paid for a small portion of this. Now he must create financial benefits and cause a similar amount of good feelings and security that offset the previous bad.

In his next life he creates a successful multi billion-dollar business which gives financial security and benefits to many employees. He also gives away a lot to charity. He continues in this vein until his karma from the life as Bernie Madoff is balanced off. After this he is then able to create a surplus of good karma.

Karma is sometimes paid off with an eye for an eye, but after the lesson is learned the soul arranges for a more productive way to pay it off.

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March 11, 2014
The Seven Initiations Continued
Larry W
Truly inspiring info. From your recent Initiate characteristics posts and also from this audio series I see the path more clearly. You said baptism symbolizes the second Initiation, rising out from the WATER -interesting. Did you also say the Baptism of Fire is part of the second Initiation? Or does Baptism of Fire pertain to third Initiation?

JJ
Various degrees of the baptism of fire can be had by all initiates and even those approaching initiation. All of us are capable of receiving some fire from the Spirit and it will be sent to us when we are open and are in the right time and place. What sets the higher initiates apart is they follow the higher guidance to wherever it leads.

Tom:
Tom to JJ….do all baptism have to be merging in water and coming out because my Methodist Minister just spanked water on my head and my brother also was sprinkled with water on his head when he joined the Mormons…….are we saved or not?

JJ
Ruth was correct in that baptism is symbolic. It symbolizes you coming out of emotional control (water) and into control of the mind (air). Control by the mind takes you out of error and thus saves you from sin (error).

Sprinkling doesn’t represent this symbolism accurately so baptism should be by immersion.

 

Baptism
To Tom:
Whether you are baptized correctly would be the least of my worries. If you find someone who is willing to baptize you by immersion, fine and if not fine as long as you follow the highest you know.

According to Mormon scriptures Adam didn’t have anyone to baptize him and was led by he Spirit in to the water to be immersed and that seemed to do the trick. You could do the same in a swimming pool or any body of water.

Here’s another scripture for you:
D&C 22:2 Wherefore, although a man should be baptized an hundred times it availeth him nothing, for you cannot enter in at the strait gate by the law of Moses, neither by your dead works.
D&C 22:3 For it is because of your dead works that I have caused this last covenant and this church to be built up unto me, even as in the days of old.

 

March 16, 2014
Devachain
Tom
Did you talk about the deva state or sleep state in the article. I am unable to find it…maybe included it in the book if you want.

JJ
The astral world where the people are living out their ideal life corresponds to the devachain. It is kind of like sleep in that they do not have a full consciousness of their relation to physical reality but in other ways their consciousness has a greater sensitivity.

 

March 17, 2014
The Key to Truth
Stephen,
Great description of what happens after the body dies JJ, many thanks. Can I just ask, how much of what you have described do you ‘know’ to be true? I use the word ‘know’ carefully, as representing direct ‘knowledge through experience’ rather than a piecing together of the puzzle so to speak.

The Internet is full of such teachings, some of which contradict each other, so if you were to suddenly say “Well young padewans, let me tell you a little story about a fine man who lives in Boise,” then I’m sure I wouldn’t be the only one here who would sit up and listen 🙂

JJ
If you are seeking the truth you are asking the wrong question in the wrong direction.

If I were to tabulate direct experience that seems to verify various teachings I give out what does that accomplish? It merely puts me in oppositions to dozens of others who claim direct experience that seems to prove my direct experience is either a lie or illusion.

Many there are who claim direct experience who are either…

(1) Outright lying.
(2) Sincere but caught in an illusion of some kind.

If someone claims direct experience of a non physical reality the highest you know using physical brain logic is that he had some experience that affected him. You would have no idea if the experience reflected reality as it actually is.

You’ll note that the greatest teachers do not use authority of experience to convince anyone. Where in the Bible does Jesus say – “Now this teaching is true because I have experience that verifies it.”

Where does DK say such a thing? Instead he says:

“The books that I have written are sent out with no claim for their acceptance. They may, or may not, be correct, true and useful. It is for you to ascertain their truth by right practice and by the exercise of the intuition. Neither I nor A.A.B. is the least interested in having them acclaimed as inspired writings, or in having anyone speak of them (with bated breath) as being the work of one of the Masters. If they present truth in such a way that it follows sequentially upon that already offered in the world teachings, if the information given raises the aspiration and the will-to-serve from the plane of the emotions to that of the mind (the plane whereon the Masters can be found) then they will have served their purpose. If the teaching conveyed calls forth a response from the illumined mind of the worker in the world, and brings a flashing forth of his intuition, then let that teaching be accepted. But not otherwise. If the statements meet with eventual corroboration, or are deemed true under the test of the Law of Correspondences, then that is well and good. But should this not be so, let not the student accept what is said.”

To attempt to get people to believe you by saying something like, “You must now believe my teachings because of experience, God, an angel or Thor working with me means that my words are to be accepted….” this is an attempt to place the mark of the beast on students.

This is something I am careful not to do.

It is the reason I have said that a person with soul contact can find more truth in the National Enquirer than one without can find in the Bible.

In the end the source of the words are not important. What is important is the words that one runs by the soul.

There is nothing in the Alice A. Bailey books that that indicate that I should accept anything because of any experience rendered. When I found my first book of hers and read a couple paragraphs I knew I had encountered a teacher of substance just because of the words reflecting on my soul and nothing else.

It is a human inclination to want to find some human source who tells him, “Hey, I have had an experience with God or the unseen and that means you can now trust everything I say.” Many ache to hear this so they can relax and just trust this outer source from then on.

On this earth journey there is no such final source outside of the source within – the soul. And you never know what your soul will verify to you.

It may tell you that some guru that all your friends think is infallible is full of illusion. On the other hand, it may verify something a serial killer says as something that is true. He who follows the soul within will not discount any source as false no matter how outrageous and will not automatically accept others no matter how close to God they seem.

 

March 18, 2014
Missing Plane Mystery

An educated guess by me on the missing plane is that it was pilot suicide. The pilot’s wife left him the day before the incident and he was probably quote distraught. Often suicidal angry people want to take other people out with them. We may never know what happened.

Here is a psychic’s comments:

“I do believe that the plane was hijacked by several onboard (more than three, along with one master mind who was not on board),” she told CBS Detroit in an email Tuesday.

Robinett cushioned the information by saying “nothing is absolute. Not all psychics or mediums have the same “strength” to their abilities. Thus one may “see” something others may miss. And then there is the impressions we receive that must then be interpreted by the said seer.”

She added with this case, “all I have is the visions that I have received with no specific coordinates.”

But with those “flashes,” this is what she believes:

It was planned for over a year.
I wasn’t a suicide mission.
I believe they had a location set up to land.
There was communication on the ground with a team/fleet of people.
I have felt the location having a mountain region, along with a jungle feeling and may be near a small Island by Madagascar.
There are hidden *underground* areas.
I saw tables with smartphones/cell phones, open wallets, passports.
It was hot and humid and there is crystal clear water/ocean nearby.
I do believe that the government knows more than what we are being told. This could be a good thing, however.
I also believe that several governments have a good idea where this plane is and are keeping the public busy with speculations as they take care of deeper issues connected with this.

 

March 22, 2014
Question
Tom asks for an example of our thoughts creating a hell for us.

Let us suppose you are a Catholic and believe you have to have the last rites of a Priest or you will go to hell. Then you die without receiving these rites. It is likely that your thoughts and fears will take you to such a place for a while, which place is created by the collective thoughts of Catholics in illusion.

March 23, 2014
Tom wants to know more about what can cause us to go to one of the hells in the astral world. Here are a few points to consider.

(1) Are you in hell now because of the way you live your life? If so then you need to change it so the quality of life will improve. We make our own reality here and the next world. Here our reality materializes slowly, but in the next world it manifests quickly.

(2) Would you be happy being around people who are similar to yourself? In the next world like gathers to like and if you are a difficult person to live with then you will gravitate to difficult people in the astral. On the other hand, if you are loving you will attract loving people.

(3) Does your conscience bother you? If so then resolve this by letting go the hold of the beast which causes guilt.

(4) Have you caused others needless pain and suffering that has not been resolved? If so, tuning into these people will throw that pain back at you very powerfully in the next world.

If you are following the highest you know and show goodwill to all you should have nothing to worry about.

 

March 23, 2014
Torture
Jody, you seem to blame the group here for your recent troubles since they started when you came across us. Let me assure you of this. There are no black magicians here and no one has any desire to do you any harm. The fact that your troubles started when you came across us could be felated to two different things.

(1) Pure coincidence.
(2) Some dark entity or force does not want you to advance in the light and is determined to stop you by making you think we are the bad guys.

Whenever a person takes a step that will have a positive effect a negative force arises to pull him backwards.

Here are some comments I have previously made on this principle:
For example, when I received the revelation that I was supposed to marry Artie it was amazing the army that gathered around her to try to talk her out of marrying me. Her daughter thought that I was like Jim Jones. She called everybody she knew. She called her dad, which is Artie’s past husband, and convinced him that I was some weirdo with one hand with quirks like Igor; that I was just really weird. She painted the strangest picture. She called her grandma and her grandma flew up here. She immediately got on a plane to save her daughter from this terrible person. Her daughter conjured up this image of me out of the blue and communicated it to everyone we knew. Within days Artie had an army around her to try to talk her out of what she received within herself for we had both received confirmation that we were supposed to be together.

Then one day we were talking on the phone after her mom was coming up and her ex-husband was afraid for her life and her soul and was afraid for her daughter’s safety because she was around a mad man. The image built up was amazing. We’re talking on the phone and she said, “Maybe we should just lie low for awhile until things calm down then we can continue the relationship.” I knew at that point that if I let the point of tension go I would lose her and I knew I had to do something. She didn’t think I would lose her but something within me told me that I would. There was this army gathering around to pull her away from what she had received within herself.

As we were talking on the phone she said, “It’s just too much to handle. I think I’ll lay low.” There was a moment of silence where I felt the spirit and I knew she was feeling it during the time of silence. I said, “What do you feel right this instant?” She said, “I feel peaceful. I feel good.” I asked, “Do you want to pursue this feeling or do you want to pursue the opposite of this feeling?” She said, “I want this feeling.” I said, “So, what are we going to do? Are we going to pursue this feeling or are we going to quit?” She said she wanted to pursue this feeling so I told her then we’re not going to give up. We’re going to continue this relationship no matter what happens, no matter what your mom thinks, no matter what your daughter thinks, no matter what your ex-husband thinks, no matter who comes pounding on your door demanding that you not see me. We will continue this relationship and this feeling will continue. I asked, “Is this a deal?” She said it was.

To her credit, she didn’t go back on her commitment. Most people would. I’ve seen this happen time and time again. People get close to the presence then an army of negativity comes to take them away from that next step and they yield to that negativity. I’ve seen it happen time and time again. The negativity is so powerful. Then when you yield to it you have a false sense of peace because you don’t have the bedlam around you anymore. You seem to have a peace but it’s not the real peace. It’s not the peace that Artie felt when I asked her what she was feeling. She decided that she wanted to pursue the real peace. To her credit she withstood all the assailments she got from her mother, her daughter and everybody who came out of the woodwork. It was beyond the imagination. She withstood them all and she stood her ground and we continued the relationship and are still together.

I’m very thankful that she stood her ground that way. Not many people do because when you make a step forward, even with something simple, like say you want to quit smoking. Are there any smokers in the group? Rick is. Rick is good at quitting smoking. He’s done it about a hundred times. But when you try to quit smoking doesn’t it seem like everyone who smokes comes out of the woodwork offering you cigarettes? It seems like an army comes to you to get you to try to start up again. In any step of progression that you make you will have an army of negativity to try to pull you back to not only where you were before but lower than you were before. It’s like the scripture that reads, “When a man casts out one devil, the devil goes forth and finds seven more, more evil than himself. And they come back and they possess the man. And the last state of the man is worse than the first state.”

This is what happens. It’s dangerous to move ahead. It’s actually dangerous; dangerous to be a disciple of Christ. It’s dangerous to move ahead. It’s dangerous to progress. It’s not easy because when you do, an army will surface and this army, coming out of the woodwork, will have the faces of your friends, the faces of your family, your religious leaders, your political leaders, your neighbors, and they will all try to pull you back so your final state will be worse than it was when you tried to make the step forward.

The only way through this is to take the step forward and stand on that step forward no matter what happens. When you take that stand you’ll find out that all the winds and the storms that are surrounding you are illusion. They don’t really exist. You just thought they were real. You give them power but they have no power. They have no power to pull you back. You just thought they had power. When you really take a stand and make a firm decision, you can stand. There is nothing that can pull you back. There is nothing that can stop you from your onward movement once you attain that faith in yourself and in your relationship to the spirit you can move ahead. Remember you can always move ahead. There is always a way. When you begin to make a step, the more important step it is, the more difficult it will be and the greater will be the illusion that you must take a step backward.
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March 26, 2014
Attrition
Jody:
And as for your post about black magicians, I am still waiting for an answer to that post of yours I responded to, JJ.

JJ
I looked over your posts and I assume you are referring to this question”
“And what are the ‚Äòabilities’ of a white magician? If what happened to me was from a “black” magician, then I would infer that “white” magician would be able to battle, fight, retaliate, hold there own against a “black” magician and therefore be able to locate and identify such a magician using your terminology of course.”

First of all it is highly unlikely that either a black or white magician is paying any attention to you. There are seven billion people on this planet and only a handful of real magicians on either side. You’d have to be a person who is likely to make a big impact on the planet to draw attention from either side. I am currently posting an audio on White Magic where I deal with white and black magic. The basic difference between the two is white magic deals with the soul and spirit and black magic deals with matter and materialism. Jesus was a white magician and Hitler was an agent of black magicians.

Your problem is more than likely caused by impish entities from the lower astral world. They are not magicians but some of them like to cause trouble on the physical plane or may be directed by magicians. It is also possible that your problems are created by thoughtforms created by yourself which have followed you from past lives. A third possibility is a combination of the two.

Whatever the case, the problem exists because a door of some kind has been opened and you need to close it.

Here is an account of dealing with such a problem from my book – The Lost Key of the Buddha. I have been attacked by dark forces a number of times and this gives some keys to overcoming them.

“Since the attack I have been racking my brain thinking of the principle that could overcome this force. I tried all the obvious ones: prayer, positive thinking, affirmations and even the Song, but nothing produced any significant change. It wasn’t until I just attempted to ignore the distress and worked on the highest I knew – which at this time is the book, taking care of life’s needs, and attempting to say the Song with intense meaning – that I noticed a real improvement. As I experienced some improvement I kept asking what the principle behind the progress was. A number of things helped, but not one of them seemed to be the total answer. Finally, after a period of deep reflection a word came to my mind that unfolded the principle.”

“And what was that word?” asked John, who I felt did not need to ask this question.

“Yes,” said Elizabeth. “What is the word? You’ve got me curious.”

“The word is attrition,” I said.

“Attrition!” said Elizabeth. “What kind of key word is that?”

“Do you know what the word means?” said John.

“Well, it seems like it is a gradual wearing away of something,” she said.

“And how would you explain it?” John said looking at me.

I replied, “Elizabeth hit on the standard definition which is basically the wearing away of a thing through friction. But the word can also imply disintegration through lack of attention. I remembered that we sometimes used the word in real estate in relation to neglected property. Property can fall apart through lack of attention or attrition. In hard times the real estate industry complained that we lost sales agents through attrition. When salespeople did not have enough business to keep their attention, they fell away and went to greener pastures.”

“So, in other words, all you have to do is ignore the problem and it will go away,” said Elizabeth.

“It’s not quite that simple,” smiled John. “Isn’t that right, Joseph?”

“It is,” I said nodding. “Right after the attack the agony was absolutely impossible to simply ignore. The intelligence behind the attack was vying for my attention and received one hundred percent of it. There was no ignoring possible. I was continually forced to acknowledge the presence.”

“So how are you applying the principle of attrition without ignoring the force?” asked Elizabeth.

“Here’s what I discovered,” I said, leaning toward her. “I had no power over whether or not the presence was bringing pain, and there was no way I could pretend that it was not there. So I looked for the areas where I did have power. When I started working on the book again it took all my strength to take my attention away from the force and place it on the writing, but even though it was difficult, I did manage to do so. When, after a time, I realized that this seemed to lessen the hold of the force, I began analyzing what I was doing. The answer wasn’t so much that I ignored the pain and the force, because I was very much aware of it. Instead, I found that, even though it was difficult, I did have power over where I placed my conscious attention. I then found that when I sustained my attention away from the negative to the normal duties I had before me, the power of the force began to diminish. This diminishing of it’s power through the denial of attention is attrition. When this word came to me this evening I realized that attrition of the enemy’s power through the diversion of attention was the key to its defeat.”

“So you’re not ignoring it, but just not giving it your attention? Tell me again what the difference is?” asked Elizabeth, looking flummoxed.

“Generally, when you ignore something, you pretend that it does not exist and give it no attention at all. With this force there was no pretending, and because it was painful I was forced to give it some attention; but I found I could divert attention and thus take away some of its power. Somehow it seems to feed off my attention.”

“Well spoken,” said John. “You have no doubt heard the maxim, energy follows thought. How do you think this principle applies?”

“Great point,” I said, as if a light bulb had turned on in my head. “If the negative force is able to be the focus of my thought, then it’s energy can follow that thought and sustain its power. By diverting my attention or thought away from the negative, and forcefully placing it upon the positive, energy will follow, for only good energy will follow good thought.”

“Well said, again,” said John smiling. “But you already knew the basic principle of energy following thought along with the benefits of positive thinking. How does the principle you saw go beyond the clich√©s accepted by the masses?”

“The general idea of positive thinking did nothing,” I said. “It was only when I roused all my will and made a decision to force the direction of my attention away from the force, bringing the principle of attrition into play that things got better.”

“Along this line you might find something the Master said of interest,” said John. “Grab the Bible again and turn to Matthew chapter eleven, verses twelve and thirteen.”

I opened the Bible and read: “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.”

“Do you have any idea what this means?” he asked.

“I remember reading this scripture before,” I said. “I couldn’t make a lot of sense of it. It seems to say that those pursuing the kingdom of heaven suffer violence, and violent people somehow take it away from the just.”

“But what period of time is mentioned by Jesus?”

“It looks like it was from the time of John the Baptist to the time that Jesus spoke those words–probably about the middle of his ministry.”

“And was there a lot of violence during this period?”

“Well, John the Baptist was put to death, but it seems that Jesus and his followers were able to go about in peace.”

“So this did not seem to be a time when there was violent persecution does it?”

“I guess not.”

“And have you read anything in the scriptures about violent people taking the kingdom by force during the first couple of years of the Master’s ministry?”

“I don’t even know if the kingdom can be taken by force,” I said.

“If you want to check with your Concordance you will see that force and violence are not the only options for translation here. I can see why translators rendered the verse the way they did, but they were not looking at the context of the meaning. For instance suffereth violence is more correctly rendered enthusiastically pressing forward, and the phrase by force was used by Jesus as society currently uses the phrase, Carpe Diem, or seize the day.”

“So how would you translate it in words we can understand?” asked Elizabeth.

“I’ll do better than that. I’ll just tell you what the Master said from memory with my own translation into English. You have to realize that he spoke this verse and others many times with different wordings to different groups. He said this thought dozens of times during his ministry. To get a true impression of the meaning you have to reverse the order of the verses.”

John paused a moment and related the words from his own recollection.

“All the prophets and wise men before John dreamed, prophesied, and taught of the kingdom of God. Many had enticing visions, and wished with all their heart that they could reach out and take the kingdom, but they could not grasp it, enjoy it themselves or present it to their people in its fullness.

“But from the days of John the Baptist until now things are different, for the Spirit of the Lord has descended, and the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Many sense the opportunity and are pressing forward with forceful enthusiasm. Those who successfully press forward are those who aggressively seize the opportunity – or Carpe Diem, as we say today.”

“Carpe Diem,” mused Elizabeth. “Now that’s a translation I can understand, especially since seeing the movie Dead Poet’s Society.”

“So Jesus was basically saying that when the opportunity for the Kingdom presents itself, we must seize the day?” I asked.

“Basically,” said John.

“What does this have to do with aiding me in mastering this evil force?”

“Let me expand on this Carpe Diem idea as presented by Jesus,” he said. “His point was that to obtain the Kingdom, or higher consciousness, we must forcefully seize the opportunity when it presents itself. Taking the kingdom by force, as the Bible says, is not a bad way to word it.

“Many in the New Age movement are making a great mistake in teaching that we must go with the flow. The trouble is that there are two major flows of energy to go with. The first is the spiritual flow and only a few are attuned to that. The second is the flow of force toward matter, or materialism. As far as the vast majority is concerned this second flow is the problem because it is by far the most powerful. Therefore, if the average seeker goes with the flow, he will flow the wrong direction, away from the Spirit.

“The seeker must resist the negative flow and tune into the spiritual. He can only do this with the exercise of tremendous force of will. When he first seeks the flow of Spirit, the registration will be weak, and to hold on to it to increase its strength, he must Carpe Diem or seize hold of the new energy with great force of decision and will. When he does, the more prominent flow of matter will pull hard on him, tempting him to let go of the budding new energy. Going with the dominant flow at this point leads to disaster, but going with the still small voice of the Spirit leads to salvation.”

He paused and looked us over as if to make sure we were registering what he was saying, and added, “But if the seeker holds on to the new energy and by force of will makes it his dominant energy, then going with the flow becomes a positive thing.”

“Interesting,” I said. “I have heard that true spiritual teachers walk you all around a subject before they hone into the major point. Is this what you are doing?”

“You speak of a true principle,” he said. “The reason for this is that a teacher of light always desires a full comprehension from the student, and if he just answers a question in a word the student will fall short in his understanding.”

He paused again, and said, “I can see you are anxious to see how this fits with your problem, so let me continue.

“To move along the ladder of spiritual progression we must set ourselves on our next step, and then, by a tremendous force of will, fix our attention and focus on the objective.

“This is the principle you must apply in overcoming this attack you are suffering. Now tell me, what are the positive items of focus you have come up with?”

“I think he’s talking about the list we made,” said Elizabeth, looking toward the desk.

I went to my desk and retrieved my notes. “Here are four things we came up with.”

“Tell them to me,” said John.

I read, “Focused attention (meaning focusing intently on the light), service, love, and courage.”

John looked thoughtful for a moment and added, “Courage is more of an attitude acquired through experience, but the first three are very applicable to developing the Carpe Diem principle. By causing you great distress the negative force lives off of all this attention it has diverted. The trick is to destroy it through attrition of its energy, forcing your attention through strength of will toward the light of the soul, to service to humankind, and to the love of all. As you have found, your consciousness has been seriously diverted away from these noble pursuits because of your great distress. This causes a vicious circle which continues to feed the negative.”

“You’re right,” I said. “Before this attack I naturally thought of positive things, but afterwards it has been extremely difficult.

“Difficult, but not impossible,” said John, looking at me intently. “By seizing the kingdom with violent force of will you can force yourself to focus on those noble pursuits and starve the dark forces, causing them to go elsewhere for nourishment. This is why sleep is such a powerful healer. During sleep your attention is taken away from the many forces tearing your body down. A good long rest can weaken these destructive forces through attrition, so when you arise, the positive energies of the body have power over the negative ones.”

“Yes, of course, you are correct here,” I said. “That is the idea I saw when I received the key word. I realized that I could starve the darkness with attrition.   I just needed to use the power of focused will and move my attention. It’s kind of like you were saying, John, I can cause my attention to sleep as far as the negative is concerned.”

“So now that you see the principle, what will you do differently than before you saw it?” said John.

“Before I saw the principle I tried to dwell on the positive, but I let the pain and distress consume my attention. Now that I see the principle, I may still feel pain, yet will force myself to not put attention on it. I will force my attention away from it until the negative force is starved to death through attrition.”

“You’ve got it,” he said. “This is one of those subtle, but important truths. There is a huge difference between putting all your attention on the positive during the good times, and keeping it there during times of great distress. “Joseph, I want you to teach this in a future book. It will help a lot of people if they can be helped to understand. This is one of those principles that enabled Jesus to maintain his poise, control, and faith even while on the cross.”

“But not many people have an overwhelming spiritual problem to deal with,” said Elizabeth. “How would this apply to them?”

“Most people have all the problems and distress they can handle,” said John. “Just as it can help Joseph, it can help them.

 

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March 28, 2014

The Keys of Knowledge

Larry W

MY list for Keys of Knowledge revealed so far — did I get this right?

JJ

The Keys given out so far are 1. Decision 2. Judgement 3. Right Perception 4. The Book of Revelation is the Key to the path of the disciple as revealed in The Unveiling. 5. Hint is given at the end of Eternal Words and will be revealed at the gathering. #12 is The Word is God. The Molecular Relationship and Gathering of Lights books contain two keys.

 

March 29, 2014

Cosmos

There is a new show on Fox called Cosmos, A Spacetime Odyssey, hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

So far three shows have been presented. There are some good things included that can enhance the knowledge of the majority. On the other hand, Tyson seems really bent on flatly dismissing the idea of any intelligence being involved in any creation of life. After watching the program I assumed he was an atheist so I checked it out and was somewhat surprised to see that he classifies himself as an agnostic. If he is truly an agnostic then you would think he would at least be open to the possibility that a higher intelligence may have been invoved in the creation of life.

One of the most interesting things presented in the first show was an encapsulation of the story of Giordano Bruno who was a thinker I admired from history.

Here is what Tyson presented.

Imagine a world before telescopes, when the universe was only what you could see with the naked eye.

It was obvious that Earth was motionless, and that everything in the heavens the Sun, the Moon, the stars, the planets revolved around us and then a Polish astronomer and priest named Copernicus made a radical proposal.

The Earth was not the center.

It was just one of the planets, and, like them, it revolved around the Sun.

Many, like the Protestant reformer Martin Luther, took this idea as a scandalous affront to Scripture.

They were horrified.

But for one man, Copernicus didn’t go far enough.

His name was Giordano Bruno, and he was a natural-born rebel.

He longed to bust out of that cramped little universe.

Even as a young Dominican monk in Naples, he was a misfit.

This was a time when there was no freedom of thought in Italy.

But Bruno hungered to know everything about God’s creation.

He dared to read the books banned by the Church, and that was his undoing.

In one of them, an ancient Roman, a man dead for more than 1,500 years whispered to him of a universe far greater, one as boundless as his idea of God.

Lucretius asked the reader to imagine standing at the edge of the universe and shooting an arrow outward.

If the arrow keeps going, then clearly, the universe extends beyond what you thought was the edge.

But if the arrow doesn’t keep going say it hits a wall then that wall must lie beyond what you thought was the edge of the universe.

Now if you stand on that wall and shoot another arrow, there are only the same two possible outcomes it either flies forever out into space, or it hits some boundary where you can stand and shoot yet another arrow.

Either way, the universe is unbounded.

The cosmos must be infinite.

This made perfect sense to Bruno.

The God he worshiped was infinite.

So how, he reasoned, could Creation be anything less? It was the last steady job he ever had.

And then, when he was 30, he had the vision that sealed his fate.

In this dream, he awakened to a world enclosed inside a confining bowl of stars.

This was the cosmos of Bruno’s time.

He experienced a sickening moment of fear, as if the bottom of everything was falling away beneath his feet.

But he summoned up his courage.

I spread confident wings to space and soared toward the infinite, leaving far behind me what others strained to see from a distance.

Here, there was no up, no down, no edge, no center.

I saw that the Sun was just another star, and the stars were other Suns, each escorted by other Earths like our own.

The revelation of this immensity was like falling in love.

Bruno became an evangelist, spreading the gospel of infinity throughout Europe.

He assumed that other lovers of God would naturally embrace this grander and more glorious view of Creation.

What a fool I was.

He was excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church in his homeland, expelled by the Calvinists in Switzerland, and by the Lutherans in Germany.

Bruno jumped at an invitation to lecture at Oxford, in England.

At last, he thought, a chance to share his vision with an audience of his peers.

I have come to present a new vision of the cosmos.

Copernicus was right to argue that our world is not the center of the universe.

The Earth goes around the Sun.

It’s a planet, just like the others.

But Copernicus was only the dawn.

I bring you the sunrise.

The stars are other fiery suns, made of the same substance as the Earth, and they have their own watery earths, with plants and animals no less noble than our own.

Are you mad or merely ignorant? Everyone knows there is only one world.

What everyone knows is wrong.

Our infinite God has created a boundless universe with an infinite number of worlds.

Do they not read Aristotle where you come from? Or even the Bible? I beg you, reject antiquity, tradition, faith, and authority.

Let us begin anew, by doubting everything we assume – has been proven.

– Heretic! Infidel! Your God is too small.

A wiser man would have learned his lesson.

But Bruno was not such a man.

He couldn’t keep his soaring vision of the cosmos to himself, despite the fact that the penalty for doing so in his world was the most vicious form of cruel and unusual punishment.

Giordano Bruno lived at a time when there was no such thing as the separation of church and state, or the notion that freedom of speech was a sacred right of every individual.

Expressing an idea that didn’t conform to traditional belief could land you in deep trouble.

Recklessly, Bruno returned to Italy.

Maybe he was homesick.

But still, he must have known that his homeland was one of the most dangerous places in Europe he could possibly go.

The Roman Catholic Church maintained a system of courts known as the Inquisition, and its sole purpose was to investigate and torment anyone who dared voice views that differed from theirs.

It wasn’t long before Bruno fell into the clutches of the thought police.

This wanderer, who worshiped an infinite universe, languished in confinement for eight years.

Through relentless interrogations, he stubbornly refused to renounce his views.

Why was the Church willing to go to such lengths to torment Bruno? What were they afraid of? If Bruno was right, then the sacred books and the authority of the Church would be open to question.

Finally, the cardinals of the Inquisition rendered their verdict.

You are found guilty of questioning the Holy Trinity and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

Of believing that God’s wrath is not eternal, that everyone will be saved.

Of asserting the existence of other worlds.

All of the books you have written will be gathered up and burned in St.

Peter’s Square.

Reverend Father, these eight years of confinement have given me much time to reflect.

So you will recant? My love and reverence for the Creator inspires in me the vision of an infinite Creation.

You shall be turned over to the Governor of Rome to administer the appropriate punishment for those who will not repent.

It may be that you are more afraid to deliver this judgment than I am to hear it.

Ten years after Bruno’s martyrdom, Galileo first looked through a telescope, realizing that Bruno had been right all along.

The Milky Way was made of countless stars invisible to the naked eye, and some of those lights in the sky were actually other worlds.

Bruno was no scientist.

His vision of the cosmos was a lucky guess, because he had no evidence to support it.

Like most guesses, it could well have turned out wrong. (End quote)

Tyson gives a good account of Bruno but he dismisses the idea that he did not make a guess but received knowledge from Higher Intelligence.

Newton, the greatest scientist of all time, stated that the complexity of the human eye proved the existence of God. Tyson, however, who has made no discoveries close to Newton, thinks the eyes, the cell, DNA etc evolved with the help of no intelligence. Here was what he said about the eye.

Darwin discovered the actual mechanism of evolution.

The prevailing belief was that the complexity and variety of life must be the work of an intelligent designer, who created each of these millions of different species separately.

Living things are just too intricate, it was said, to be the result of unguided evolution.

Consider the human eye, a masterpiece of complexity.

It requires a cornea, iris, lens, retina, optic nerves, muscles, let alone the brain’s elaborate neural network to interpret images.

It’s more complicated than any device ever crafted by human intelligence.

Therefore, it was argued, the human eye can’t be the result of mindless evolution.

To know if that’s true, we need to travel across time to a world before there were eyes to see.

In the beginning, life was blind.

This is what our world looked like four billion years ago, before there were any eyes to see.

Until a few hundred million years passed, and then, one day, there was a microscopic copying error in the DNA of a bacterium.

This random mutation gave that microbe a protein molecule that absorbed sunlight.

Want to know what the world looked like to a light-sensitive bacterium? Take a look at the right side of the screen.

Mutations continued to occur at random, as they always do in any population of living things.

Another mutation caused a dark bacterium to flee intense light.

What is going on here? Night and day.

Those bacteria that could tell light from dark had a decisive advantage over the ones that couldn’t.

Why? Because the daytime brought harsh, ultraviolet light that damages DNA.

The sensitive bacteria fled the intense light to safely exchange their DNA in the dark.

They survived in greater numbers than the bacteria that stayed at the surface.

Over time, those light-sensitive proteins became concentrated in a pigment spot on the more advanced, one-celled organism.

This made it possible to find the light, an overwhelming advantage for an organism that harvests sunlight to make food.

Here’s a flatworm’s-eye view of the world.

This multi-celled organism evolved a dimple in the pigment spot.

The bowl-shaped depression allowed the animal to distinguish light from shadow to crudely make out objects in its vicinity, including those to eat and those that might eat it a tremendous advantage.

Later, things became a little clearer.

The dimple deepened and evolved into a socket with a small opening.

Over thousands of generations, natural selection was slowly sculpting the eye.

The opening contracted to a pinhole covered by a protective transparent membrane.

Only a little light could enter the tiny hole, but it was enough to paint a dim image on the sensitive inner surface of the eye.

This sharpened the focus.

A larger opening would have let in more light to make a brighter image but one that was out of focus.

This development launched the visual equivalent of an arms race.

The competition needed to keep up to survive.

But then a splendid new feature of the eye evolved, a lens that provided both brightness and sharp focus.

In the eyes of primitive fish, the transparent gel near the pinhole formed into a lens.

At the same time, the pinhole enlarged to let in more and more light.

Fish could now see in high-def, both close up and far away.

And then something terrible happened.

Have you ever noticed that a straw in a glass of water looks bent at the surface of the water? That’s because light bends when it goes from one medium to another, say from water to air.

Our eyes originally evolved to see in water.

The watery fluid in those eyes neatly eliminated the distortion of that bending effect.

But for land animals, the light carries images from dry air into their still-watery eyes.

That bends the light rays, causing all kinds of distortions.

When our amphibious ancestors left the water for the land, their eyes, exquisitely evolved to see in water, were lousy for seeing in the air.

Our vision has never been as good since.

We like to think of our eyes as state-of-the-art, but 375 million years later, we still can’t see things right in front of our noses or discern fine details in near darkness the way fish can.

When we left the water, why didn’t nature just start over again and evolve us a new set of eyes that were optimal for seeing in the air? Nature doesn’t work that way.

Evolution reshapes existing structures over generations, adapting them with small changes.

It can’t just go back to the drawing board and start from scratch.

At every stage of its development, the evolving eye functioned well enough to provide a selective advantage for survival.

And among animals alive today, we find eyes at all these stages of development.

And all of them function.

The complexity of the human eye poses no challenge to evolution by natural selection.

In fact, the eye and all of biology makes no sense without evolution.

Some claim that evolution is just a theory, as if it were merely an opinion.

The theory of evolution, like the theory of gravity, is a scientific fact.

Evolution really happened.

Accepting our kinship with all life on Earth is not only solid science.

In my view, it’s also a soaring spiritual experience. End Quote

I don’t know how you can have a godless spiritual experience.

Question for the group. What is Tyson missing in his explanation of evolution? Where is his error? We are looking for something more than just “God” as the answer here.

 

March 30, 2014

The Personality

Dan writes;

Does someone that is soul-infused and capable of group unity to the point that they could participate in a molecule, no longer have a personality?

JJ

It doesn’t matter how high on the totem pole you get, you still have a personality as long as you are incarnated in a physical body.

The personality consists of three things.

(1) The calculating brain

(2) The feeling nature – the emotions.

(3) The mind and powers of reasoning.

Each of us combines the powers of these three vehicles to create what is called a unique personality.

Now, if Jesus had a personality then it stands to reason that other disciples who are soul infused would still have one.

Did Jesus have and use a calculating brain? Most certainly.

Did Jesus have and show feelings? Indeed. He wept several times and another time became so angry that he chased the moneychangers out of the temple.

Did Jesus use his reasoning powers? He used them regularly in arguments he had with the religious leaders. He also used his creative mental powers to concoct numerous teaching parables that were concise, but very effective.

For most of us the personality slowly falls into place after we are born. It is created as we follow the line of least resistance and we go with the influences of our rays, astrological influences, inherited tendencies and what rubs off on to us from our friends, associates and family.

Because the personality naturally develops in standard humans they have a tendency to identify with it. The average person thinks that he is his personality. It does not occur to him that what he thinks he is, is merely composed of a life essence using three vehicles so he can function on the physical plane.

Now here is an interesting point made by DK. He tells us that after the Fourth Initiation the disciple no longer attaches himself to the personality, but still needs one to function in the world. Therefore, what he does is to consciously create one. In other words, he becomes what he decides to be rather than what is thrust upon him by outward forces and circumstances.

This is a goal that all seekers and disciples would do well to seek. Instead of developing and expressing ourselves through impulses gained by programming and outer forces, seek to be the observer and then decide what type of personality you want to express and be that person.

 

March 30, 2014

Avoiding Phase Two

One thing this group has in common with other groups, whether they be spiritual or not, is that we are very creative in discovering ways to offend and be offended at each other.

What is overlooked is that there are degrees in which various statements are offensive as a whole. This is often overlooked because a black and white approach is often taken. Either the person is offended or not. For many there are not degrees, or places in between. There is just offense or toleration.

In this group, the offense we want to avoid more than any other are those things that go beyond offending just one person, but irritates the many and leads to a round of arguments, attack and defense that can sometime last weeks and totally distract the group. Such diatribe often causes good people to withdraw and scares new people away.

When this happens no one seems to take responsibility in starting it, instead, always blaming it on the other guy.

Here’s how a lengthy, distracting personality argument often gets started.

Person A disagrees with Person B and describes his thoughts using a politically incorrect word. He may say something like the following:

That’s a crazy idea.

Where have you been living, Fantasyland?

You are not being logical.

You must have gotten that idea from watching Looney Tunes.

We could go on and on listing phrases and words that will offend some people. The problem is that all of us, if we speak or write long enough, will say something that will be considered offensive by someone.

I am as careful with my wording as anyone here, and still manage to do it from time to time.

The key in participating in a harmonious group is to overlook politically or spiritually incorrect speech. This is easy to do if one tries to look at the person’s heart. Often I see a member say something quite stark, but I sense that he is either making an attempt at humor or means it as a good natured jab. In this case it is easy to overlook the black and white wording.

These jabs made with harmless intent are not the cause of group conflict, though they often take the blame. They are not a cause, but an excuse.

The real cause begins when the jab is taken too seriously and the guy then attacks with real intent to demean or humiliate.

If this second step were never taken then an incessant round of conflict would never occur. The person taking this second step bears the brunt of the responsibility.

What the person who feels tempted to take the second step needs to realize is that this first step happens regularly in every group there is and if he or she is going to register offense there then he will wind up doing it everywhere. No matter where you go you will find people making cutting comments.

So if one is not clear about whether or not a comment is merely a part of the fairly harmless Phrase One, how can he tell?

A good sign is to look toward the reaction from the group. If only you, or a small handful are concerned then that is a sign that your concern or offense is misplaced.

If a significant number become involved in dealing with the offense then that is a sign that Phase Two has been entered where an endless round begins.

Allow me to give examples of the Phase One, Phase Two offenses.

Phase One: That’s a crazy idea.

Phase Two: Who you calling crazy?

Phase One: That’s a crazy idea.

Phase Two: So, you think I’m insane? You are the lunatic here.

Notice here that the Phase One guy did not attack the person, but the idea. And notice that the Phase Two person did not respond to the idea being attacked but as if he was personally attacked. Instead of hearing “That’s a crazy idea.” He heard “You re a crazy person.”

Instead of taking it personally and responding with a personal attack he should have merely asked, “What is so crazy about the idea?”

The key that must be absorbed by the Phase Two person is the Third Key of Knowledge, which is “Correct Perception.” If he had used this key he would have not registered the incorrect unspoken meaning, “You are a crazy person.” All sane people say something deemed a little crazy now and then.

Now here is a response that is sure to lead to conflict:

Phase One: That’s a crazy idea.

Phase Two: You need to get some soul contact so you can speak with respect.

This response lays the groundwork for major problems because so much can be perceived between the lines such as:

(1) This person is judging the other has not being in contact with his soul. This is not his to decide. He can think this and keep it to himself, but to blurt it out creates fightn’ words.

(2) This person is inferring that he is in contact with his soul and the other is not. He would have to think this way to make such a judgment.

(3) This individual is attacking the person and not his ideas.

(4) This person is making a negative judgment on the other which never has a good end.

I could go on but I hope this gives the general idea of what causes the personality problems that surface here from time to time.

The main key is to not take personal offense at non personal attacks or non personal biting comments.

 

March 31, 2014

Referee’s Comments

To insinuate that Dan committed the unforgivable sin against the Holy Ghost is indeed misguided. I have personally received many things through the Spirit and have encountered many people who think that such things I have received are crazy. They think it is even crazier if I tell them that the source is the spirit.

Does that mean they have sinned against the Holy Spirit? No. Of course not. It merely means they disagreed with my words as they understood them.

In order to sin against the Holy Ghost you have to feel Its presence and know that what you are dealing with is a true reality. If the person becomes hardened so he is unwilling to receive anything through the soul then a wall of his own making is created between him and the Spirit .

As it turns out, the Spirit does not leave us but the person leaves the spirit by insulating himself from the Presence. This causes the person in his present personality to be cut off from the spiritual presence. I do not see this problem occurring with any of my friends posting here.

I normally do not comment on causes of conflict but there have been so many accusations going around that perhaps in this case I should say a few extra words. In my opinion there is plenty of blame to go around here. Dan disagreed with how Rick saw himself as being led by the Spirit. Dan tells him, “Your ‘spirit’ sounds like an idiot.” Obviously Dan thinks Rick is led by his feelings and not an infallible Spirit.

There is nothing wrong with Dan disagreeing with Rick or any revelation he has, but his response was pretty stark and would be hurtful to many receiving such language. If I disagreed with Rick and wanted to voice it I would have said something like this:

“I don’t care where you think you received this it doesn’t make sense to me and I disagree because…”

Dan has disagreed with me pretty frankly a number o times with fairly abrupt language, but they have been Phase One disagreements and I generally just let the roughness pass through me and answer as if the wording was spoken with kindness.

Rick also made mistakes in my opinion. He took extra offense because he saw the Spirit as being attacked. Actually Dan could not attack the Spirit unless he really believed the Holy Spirit was at work here. Because Rick saw Dan’s response as extra egregious, instead of just voicing disagreement (which would have been the best course IMO) he punished Dan by unilaterally cutting him off from the group.

This in turn outraged a number of members.

Both men could have handled this differently and avoided the disruption the group suffered. Most of us can see this on hindsight so the best thing to do now is move onward and remember we are in this together as friends and should treat each other accordingly.

Also, it would be helpful to take my post #67310 to heart. Susan called this a classic and I’m glad she saw it that way because I felt led by the “Spirit” to write it. If anyone thinks the ideas sound like they came from an idiot, I’ll take the blame for making it sound that way.

 

Adam:

The whole notion of being offended by anyone or anything, is totally offensive.

JJ

“Blessed is he who is not offended by me.” Jesus

 

April 1, 2014

Noah, The Movie

Johann:

How was it that the very earth itself was corrupt and “ALL flesh”? These are very strong words as for instance the animals just run on a program designed to work on context and nothing else, not on a creative purpose as we understand it.

JJ

Supposing that the story of Noah represents the great floods that destroyed Atlantis the clue to this may be found in legends of that time, left to us in the image of the Sphinx, which still stands in Egypt. The Sphinx is half man and half lion. Some legends tell us that Atlantean scientists experimented with the mixing of the species, mixing animals with humans as well as various animal species and this corrupted much of the life of the planet. Unfortunately scientists are headed in this direction once again. Who knows what kind of creatures will be roaming the earth in a hundred or more years.

 

April 2, 2014

The Question on Cosmos

What is Tyson missing in his explanation of evolution? Where is his error? We are looking for something more than just “God” as the answer here.

We received some great answers on this. Unfortunately, I do not have time to comment on them and give them justice.

There is one very important point that orthodox evolutionists leave out of their argument, which basically goes like this.

We know that life was created by evolution and not Intelligent Design because of what we have observed. We know the fossil record shows that over eons of time life evolved from a simple state to a more complex one. In addition to this natural evolution, the historical and fossil record shows that humans speeded evolution up. An instance was when he domesticated the wolf and controlled his breeding, which, over time, produced dogs we have today in all their forms.

This approach has a basic error and it is amazing most scientists, which consider themselves way above the masses in intellect, do not understand the error.

The error is this: They witness and tabulate a process of creation and then conclude that they understand all the ingredients and intelligence involved in the creation.

For instance, they tabulate the steps of evolution and think all that was involved was a natural selection process. Case closed.

They tabulate all they know about gravity and when they find the Higgs particle they think they know how gravity was works and was created.

They tabulate all they know about creation and figure the Big Bang (with no intelligence involved) explains it all when they have no idea how the whole universe exploded into being from a tiny point.

Now just imagine how silly this approach is when applied to reality as follows.

Charles loves apple products. He has an Apple computer, an iPhone, an iPod and an iPad. He wonders. How did these fine products come to be?

He investigates and finds out that Apple products were created through an evolutionary process. They started with the Apple I, then came the Apple II. Next was Lisa, then the Mac, followed by the Mac Plus, the Mac SE, the iMac, the G3, the G4, the G5 and now the latest Apple computers and products in all their glory.

After his study Charles comes to a startling conclusion and thinks to himself:

“Obviously Apple products were created through a process of evolution and natural selection. As soon as a new and better product shows up through some type of mutation then from that point on it is naturally selected and the Apple products just become more and more sophisticated without the need of an Intelligent Designer.

If any one of us were to encounter Charles we would think he is pretty stupid, yet scientists make this same error. They observe the history of evolution and see the complex designs, much more complex than any computer, and figure no intelligence was necessary in creation.

When these guys die and go to the other side and discover that great intelligence was involved in all creation they will feel pretty embarrassed as the truth was always there staring them in the face.

 

April 3, 2014

Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/04/01/study-vegetarians-less-healthy-lower-quality-of-life-than-meat-eaters/

Violet Writes:

There’s a book called ” Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” that was written by a dentist who traveled the world in search of the healthiest diet. Originally, Dr. Weston Price thought it would be vegan but found the healthiest diets include meat or protein of some kind. in one case, insects were the source of protein. He and his wife did this at a time when some regions were still cut off from Western civilisation and they were able to provide photographs of their findings. Its an interesting read. More on Weston Price can be found on YouTube.

JJ

A part of the reason that many vegetarians are not that healthy is they substitute a lot of starchy foods for protein because this tends to fill you up. They also eat a lot of soy products which are not good for you unless fermented as they do in Japan. Tofu is not a health food .

I believe that those who stay away from the dead starches and concentrate on whole live foods come out in pretty good shape on the average. It would be interesting to see the results of a more detailed study.

 

April 8, 2014

Another Letter on Global Warming

Here’s another letter I wrote to my local paper.

How Global Warming Alarmists Are Like the Religious Leaders in the Days of Galileo.

(1) They claim they are right because of consensus, not proven science.

(2) Just like the medieval scientists refused to look through Galileo’s telescope, today the rigid left does not examine the opposing point of view but only seeks to distort it.

(3) Most of their predictions are incorrect.

(4) Most refuse to debate the actual science.

(5) Instead of debating they try to shut down free speech on the topic. For example, alarmists tried to prevent the Washington Post from publishing Krauthammer’s opinion on the subject and the LA Times refuses to even allow skeptical opinions (like mine) in the letters to the editor. Other papers have threatened to follow their lead. Hopefully the Statesman stays above this dogmatic approach.

(6) Instead of using reasoning, facts and science they attempt to destroy opposition through name-calling. Medieval religious leaders called skeptics, “heretics” and “blasphemers.” Today alarmists call them “deniers,” “traitors” and “flat earthers.”

(7) They both call for punishing dissent. Alarmists are increasingly calling for lawsuits, jail and “Nuremberg-style trials” for climate skeptics.

History indeed repeats itself. Only the names of the intolerant change.

 

Copyright 2014 by J J Dewey

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April 8, 2014

Lights on Mars

This is pretty mysterious.

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Also this:

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April 9, 2014

Mars, Sound etc.

Tom:

Could their be intelligence life on Mars…what do you think JJ?

JJ

There is life on all the major planets, but not always on the physical surface. There are many other places to look. Most planets have some type of life form under their surface. Just as there are many complex parts within our physical bodies even so, a planet has a complex interior with a number of functioning life forms. I believe the gas giants such as Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune have a number of gaseous life forms within their thick atmospheres.

I would also expect to find some type of life form under the surface in water in places such as Jupiter’s moon, Europa or Enceladus which orbits Saturn.

As far as intelligent life goes, scientists can’t find evidence that any exists in the solar system, but they do not realize that each planet has many more components than the dense physical plane. There are the higher ethers and the astral and mental planes with their divisions. Most of the planets and even the Sun has intelligent life on some plane of its existence.

That light on Mars captured by the Rover is quite intriguing. If there is a natural explanation I’m not sure what it could be. It could be an outpost left by an ancient civilization or interplanetary visitor. Then it could be from inhabitants of the etheric world who descended to the physical to check out the Rover.

There are some other interesting pictures indicating that life has been or is there. Check these out:

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Tom

I’m doing Seti@home which uses users computers to try to find radio signals from outer space. Have you done any citizen science projects.

JJ

No, I have my hands full at the present but that sounds right up your alley.

Jarek

I have a question for You (and the other keysters):

When being in silence with a silent and still mind (like in meditation), do You hear a constant high pitched sound/noise (quite similar to the noise the old CRT TV’s had back in the days, but even a higher pitch, so high that it seems to be on the edge of perception of the real and imagination)?

The reason I asked You about the high pitch sound is that from all the people I personally know, those few who are fairly enlightened and are seekers of truth on the Path, hear it also, so I thought You might too 🙂

JJ

Yeah, I hear a number of background sounds and see a number of lights. Just you bringing up the subject drew my attention to the sound. Unless there is some message involved I just usually tune them out as they can be a distraction.

As to what your purpose in life is that is for you to figure out. Your purpose or mission is decided by you before you were born and when you find it, it will just feel right. Keep in mind that one life out of seven is a Sabbath and your main purpose in that life is to rest, recharge and just take things in.

 

April 11, 2014

Cosmos Again

I’m continuing to watch the Cosmos series hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson. I was glad to see that in the last episode, the fifth, that he stuck to science and didn’t insult the intelligence of those who believe a Higher Intelligence is behind creation.

One interesting thing I learned which I didn’t know was the first institutionalized book burning took place a couple centuries before Christ and was ordered by Qin Shi Huang, the first emperor, and unifier of China.

Tyson tells us that he took a continent and turned it into a nation that now bears his name China.

Most of us know Emperor Qin for the army of 7,000 terra cotta warriors that guard his tomb.

In Emperor Qin’s drive to consolidate his far-flung empire, he took drastic measures to standardize everything within it.

This included mandating a single coinage, making uniform all weights and measures, the widths of carts and roads, as well as the precise way the Chinese language was to be written, including what you were allowed to write and think.

Emperor Qin’s philosophy– the only one permitted– was called “legalism,” which is just what it sounded like, do as the law says or else.

It’s a philosophy that’s not highly conducive to questioning authority.

that all the books of the hundred schools of thought shall be be burned, that anyone who uses history to criticize the present shall have his family executed.

The works of MoTze and Confucius and other philosophers were destroyed in the world’s first book burning.

Hundreds of scholars bravely resisted by trying to preserve the forbidden books.

They were buried alive in the capitol.

Science needs the light of free expression to flourish.

It depends on the fearless questioning of authority, the open exchange of ideas. (End quote)

On the other hand in other episodes he took off the hat of a true scientists and resorted to dogma and distortion.

Concerning Newton, he said,

When Isaac Newton was born in this house in 1642, the world was very different.

Everyone looked at the perfection of the clockwork motions of the planets in the sky and could only understand it as the work of a master clock maker.

How else to explain it? There was only one way such a thing could come about in their imagination; only one answer for them– God.

For reasons beyond our understanding, God just created the solar system that way.

But this explanation is the closing of a door.

It doesn’t lead to other questions.

Along came Newton, a God-loving man who’s also a genius.

He could write the laws of nature in perfect mathematical sentences– formulas that applied universally to apples, moons, planets and so much more.

With one foot still in the Middle Ages, Isaac Newton imagined the whole solar system.

Newton’s laws of gravity and motion revealed how the Sun held distant worlds captive.

His laws swept away the need for a master clock maker to explain the precision and beauty of the solar system.

Gravity is the clock maker. (end quote)

This is an absurd conclusion. This is like saying that the hands of my watch move with precision because it has a battery and this means there is no watchmaker. Or for that matter, no one made the battery either. It just exists.

Newton, who is considered the greatest scientist of all time, certainly came to a different conclusion from his work than Tyson did. He was a huge believer in Intelligent Design as well as a seeker of truth from the Bible. He credited many of his discoveries to his reflections on the scriptures and the Great Clockmaker who made the universe. His discovery of the law of gravity strengthened his belief in a Creator. It didn’t cause him to dismiss God in the least as Tyson thinks should happen.

Then in the second episode he projects the idea that because of powerful evidence that evolution exists that the idea of Intelligent Design is negated. This is nonsense as many supporters of the concept of Intelligent design believe in evolution.

Tyson males a big mistake in his presentation of evolution by telling us that Dogs with the help of man evolved from wolves. Recent research proves pretty conclusively this is not the case. Here is a link to the story.

What evolutionists overlook is that the evidence indicates that it has not been a gradual process, but has occurred in leaps. These giant leaps have occurred after each great extinction. Between extinctions many of the species continue their lives with little or no change for millions of years. Great leaps in creation cannot be explained away by natural selection.

 

April 12, 2014

Evolutionary Leaps

I just finished reading Robert Felix’s book called Magnetic Reversals for the second time and found it quite interesting. He basically makes the interesting claim that historical evidence suggests that giant atomic explosions were triggered in our atmosphere after magnetic reversals occurred. This has been responsible for various mass extinctions. These explosions, which occurred in our atmosphere, were triggered by tremendous currents of electrical force interacting with elements in the atmosphere which created an atomic reaction, creating destruction and new elements raining down on the earth.

Then, after the partial extinction of life on the planet new species seemed to magically appear. He attributes this to increased mutation from radiation, God, or both. He also says we are overdue for another magnetic reversal.

I found this particularly interesting, but even more so when I reread a profound statement by DK concerning what was behind the evolutionary leap that produced the first self conscious humans. He says:

“At human individualisation in the middle of the third rootrace. This was produced by a vast destruction of the forms we call animal-man. This point has seldom been brought out in teaching. The advent of the Lords of the Flame, the electrical storm which ushered in the period of man, was distinguished by disaster, chaos, and the destruction of many in the third kingdom of nature. The spark of mind was implanted and the strength of its vibration, and the immediate effect of its presence caused the death of the animal form, thus producing the immediate possibility of the newly vitalised causal bodies vibrating to such purpose that new physical vehicles were taken. That was the Will aspect manifesting in the fourth round in connection with the human family.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Page 425

Note that, in harmony with Felix, he says that an “electrical storm which ushered in the period of man, was distinguished by disaster, chaos, and the destruction of many in the third kingdom of nature.”

Notice that he says the electrical storm followed by great destruction created the “possibility of the newly vitalized causal bodies vibrating to such purpose that new physical vehicles were taken.”

Where did these new physical bodies come from? According Felix the evidence suggests that they just seem to magically appear. It may well be the perfect storm of creation comes together after such electrical phenomena causes great destruction. These ingredients include:

(1) Powerful electrical forces unleashed.

(2) Increased radioactivity.

(3) Being visited by beings of great intelligence.

These three ingredients seem to work together to create new and better species to replace the old.

For those interested in Felix’s book here is the LINK

LWK (Quoting Peter)

in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

JJ

That is an amazing close to what Felix says happens after a natural nuclear explosion caused by a magnetic reversal causing past extinctions. He thinks the explosion in Siberia in 1909 could have been a foreshadoeing and a natural cause rather than a meteorite.

 

April 13, 2014

Heavens Melting

Adam:

Are you now endorsing some type of “rapture,”

JJ

No, not by any means. There may be some great cataclysms but the earth will not be destroyed in any near future – unless we blow ourselves up. Felix presents evidence that a magnetic reversal could trigger some explosions in the atmosphere similar to what happened in Siberia in 1909.

Here is what DK says:

When man has found out how to contact and utilise positive solar electricity in combination with negative planetary electricity, we shall have a very dangerous condition brought about, and one of the factors which will eventually manifest in the destruction of the fifth root race by fire. At that great cataclysmas the Bible says “the Heavens will melt with fervent heat.” This will be seen in a still greater degree in the next round, and will cause that destruction by fire of the forms of the men who have failed, which will liberate the lives on a stupendous scale, and thus temporarily ‘purify’ the Earth from elements which would tend to hinder the evolutionary process. As the cycles pass away, the balancing of these fiery currents will be gradually brought about, and will result in a planetary condition of harmony, and of esoteric equality, which will provide ideal environment for harmonious man. Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Page 524

He points out in another place that this destruction will take place quite a few years down the road.

 

April 16, 2014

Darker Picture?

LWK

So my question was to JJ really. Is he seeing a darker picture now?

JJ

Not really. I believe as before that there will be some catastrophic events in the next 150-200 years but I do not see an extinction coming for some time to come – that is unless humanity gets out of control and blows itself up. That is, I would guess, a 15% probability.

The probability is much higher that some type of a more limited nuclear or WMD exchange will happen in the near future and will serve as a wakeup call.

 

April 17, 2014

Nuclear Problem

Marriage Vows

Tom

What about the vow one makes in life………

But I believe marriage can continue after death no matter what. I hope my G-parants are still married where ever they are at?

JJ

Any vow that you take here on earth only applies to physical plane life. You are not held to it in the next world. Scientologists who make a billion year commitment to L Ron Hubbard will be relieved to discover this. If your grandparents want to hang out together in the next world there will be nothing stopping them except their own decisions. After death you link up with a lot of old friends and past lovers so you have a whole new prespective on relationships. If you love someone here you will continue to love them after death. Love continues, but earthly vows are temporary. For one thing, we often do not know what we are doing when taking long term vows.

 

Apr 18, 2014

Re: Being God

I stirred Dan’s curiosity when I talked about the corruption of the Atlanteans in mixing the species.

He says:

I just read some information about how such “chimeric” organisms have been created in the lab and are currently being used for all kinds of things from converting plant sugars into plastics to treating wastewater to create electricity.

The traditional religious “party line” is, essentially, that bio-engineering, genetic manipulation, cloning, gene-splicing and etc is “playing god” and that puny humans should keep their grubby little mitts out of it.

I am not aware of any current attempts to mix animal and human genes but I was wondering, JJ, what your take is on THIS sort of biological experimentation? Specifically the genetic mixing of lower life forms such as bacteria, fungi, etc in order use them as biological machines to churn out products.

JJ

Whenever the power of humanity is enhanced the possibility of good is increased, but also the possibility of evil and destruction.

Perhaps the best example of this so far is atomic energy. We have unleashed a power that can either destroy the world or save the world. It all depends on the intentions of those with the power.

If we could derive some benefit through the mixing of the species that would help mankind and bring us greater happiness then that would be well and good. But if we wanted to create hybrids for amusement or to be slaves, or for sexual pleasure at their expense then that would indeed be a corruption. Indeed in ancient times and on some other planets there are corruptions that would boggle the mind.

These type of corruptions would draw down some unfortunate entities with bad karma but they would much prefer paying it off in regular human bodies.

We are entering some dangerous territory when we start mixing the species because sooner or later scientists will forget about doing something that will benefit us and do crazy Stephen King type of experiments just to see what they can do. We could wind up with some real out of control monsters on our hands like in Alien, starring Sigourney Weaver, or maybe a rise of the Planet of the Apes.

The next couple hundred years is going to test our common sense in a number of different ways. Let us hope we can navigate through these times successfully until we mature a bit.

Ruth:

In fact, if Sanat incarnated into animal man or an animal body, then surely he would blow that body to pieces,

JJ

If he would have incarnated in his full consciousness and glory then the primitive body could not have handled it, but even us regular folk are not incarnated in our full consciousness and neither was Sanat. He allocated what was necessary to make the incarnation work.

 

April 20, 2014

Phillip Lindsay

Larry W

What do you think, Keysters, Is Phillip Lindsay worth reading?

JJ

I read some of his material and he is pretty well versed on AAB and HBP and does some of his own thinking. He is better than most theosophists and if you read by the light of the soul you can benefit.

He did say one thing that comes to mind that didn’t sound right. He believes the dinosaurs went extinct when the hierarchy came here 23 million years ago which was followed by great destruction. DK says nothing that indicates this is the case and I see no reason to revise the regular timeline of around 65 million years ago for their demise.

 

April 21, 2014

Transcendence

Since we’ve been talking about evolution and technology it is very timely indeed that my wife and I went to see the new movie, Transcendence, the other day.

We read a review of it in the paper and it rated it quite low and we almost went to something else instead. I’m glad we stayed the course and went for we found it quite enjoyable and couldn’t understand why some critics were so down on the movie. Not only that but the ticket sales were very low as it only grossed about $11 million the first week. Maybe part of the reason is that Johnny Depp is the highest paid actor in the world and when you are at the top there’s a lot of people who want to see you fail. Personally, I like the guy as an actor.

My favorite movie with him in was The Ninth Gate. It wasn’t a big success but was quite interesting to watch.

Anyway back to Transcendence. To save me time typing here is the plot I lifted from what others have said:

Dr Will Caster (Johnny Depp) develops a sentient computer device with unsurpassed processing power. When fatally poisoned by a radical techno-terrorist organization he and his wife (Rebecca Hall) upload his consciousness into his invention to preserve his life, but the now unrestrained supercomputer soon develops a frightening ambition that blurs the line between humanity and technology.

At the heart, it’s a story about a woman, Evelyn, who loves her husband, Will, so much she tries to hold onto him by helping him save his consciousness. She begins to wrestle with whether this being is really Will or is something new. It’s also about evolution and the line between humanity and evolving into something more. This movie might be a turn off for religious people but it does make you think of what humanity could become whether you’re religious or not. (End quote)

One of the criticisms of the movie is that there has already been a lot of them about the dangers of technology run amuck, but this one was different enough that this did not spoil the movie for us. We live in an age where scientists really think they will soon be able to digitize the human brain and all its memories so the question does arise as to whether actual consciousness will be reproduced. And when Depp comes online in a computer system that is the main question his associates want to know. Is this computerized version really him or something else?

They can only take the nuances so far as they have to create a big problem to solve to make the movie interesting and of course Depp enters the internet and seeks to control the world and those who once loved him now must stop him.

Anyway, this is an interesting movie to watch when contemplating the prospect of playing God with technology. I’d rate it three stars out of four.

 

April 21, 2014

The Etheric Web

Ruth:

Does an atomic bomb have an etheric equivalent or etheric double? If so, does this etheric equivalent equal an atomic explosion in the physical atmosphere? DK said something about the atomic explosions attributing something to the etheric web around Earth.

JJ

Everything has an etheric double. As the organism becomes more complex so is the etheric makeup more complex. For instance the etheric composition or a human or animal is much more complex than a rock. On the other hand, the planet itself is a living entity, of which we are all a part, and, as a whole, has a very complex web.

Here is what DK said in connection to the effect of the atomic bomb on it.

“Is the etheric web of the planet sufficiently stable and balanced so that it can adequately respond to the new and potent forces which could and will pour through it into objective expression? I would remind you that the release of atomic energy has had a far more potent effect in the etheric web than in the dense physical vehicle of the planet. Three times the atomic bomb was used, and that fact is itself significant. It was used twice in Japan, thereby disrupting the etheric web in what you erroneously call the Far East; it was used once in what is also universally called the Far West, and each time a great area of disruption was formed which will have future potent, and at present unsuspected, results.”

Discipleship In The New Age – Volume II, Page 61

Most DK students interpret this to mean that these explosions along with all the more powerful ones that followed will create disastrous results.

There are three points to consider.

(1) DK supported the use of the atomic bomb to end the war. He said that the bomb represented an initiation of matter itself.

(2) He did not say the results would be bad or all bad. He said there would be “unsuspected, results.”

(3) It’s been 69 years since the explosions that he mentioned and there have been no disastrous results that can be attributed to etheric disturbance.

So, what have been the unexpected results of the etheric web disturbance? DK gives a hint:

“As each unit of consciousness, through self-induced effort, achieves the goal and crosses the ‘burning-ground,’ a microscopic portion of the etheric web of the planetary etheric body is consumed by fire; this results in a definite gain for that great Entity, the planetary Logos, through the relatively unimportant liberation of the force of one cell in His body.

Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Page 509

So, fire in the etheric web aids in the liberation of the life of the planet. When we look at the human web we learn that dissolving the web is good as long as it is not done too quickly and the consciousness is ready for the results. Even so, it would be with the planet. Some destruction of the web would release spiritual energy and light and that is what has happened since 1945. The intelligent life on the planet has made progress in both spiritual and material science. The trick is to not advance so fast that we destroy ourselves, and that is the negative danger of disturbing the etheric web.

Ruth

Question two: When one passes over and the solar Angel shows one their life lessons on Earth etc, does one then pass over into the astral emotional realm and emotionally try to fix their physical life lessons or mistakes made once one has been shown their progression from their Solar Angel, or does one forget this brief encounter, and passes over into the astral still playing out life emotional experiences etc depending on one’s evolved consciousness and the state of their evolution.

JJ

We can’t fix our physical plane mistakes when out of the body. What we can do is learn from them and prepare for the next life where we can fix them, or rise above them.

DK says we take three things with us into the astral from the life review. I personally do not think this applies all the time and, of course, the higher Self, or the soul is aware of all of the life review. It’s rather ignorant reflection often runs quite blindly in the astral between lives.

Johann: The initiation that matter underwent when the atomic bombs were detonated, it does correspond with the third degree initiation for humans right?

JJ

Good question. DK merely said the atomic bomb represented an initiation for matter but didn’t give any details. If we consider the development of higher atoms than hydrogen, then molecules and later organic life as initiations then it could be a rather high one. On the other hand, from another angle it could be the first.

The initiating of something that most consider not living is a mysterious subject.

 

April 27, 2014

More on After Death

Ruth quotes this verse:

“Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” Eccl 12:6-7

If the silver cord is the spiritual thread, and the golden bowl is the etheric web, then what is the pitcher being broken at the fountain? And what is the wheel broken at the cistern?

JJ

“Fountain” comes from the Hebrew MABBUWA which means “a spring of water” and a cistern is a well. Those two phrases are describing the source of water being dried up. Water here is symbolic of life so he is merely saying that when the silver cord is loosed, the etheric body broken, and the source of physical life is no more that “the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.”

Ruth again:

You say this:

“During this merging they will be aware of several advanced beings guiding the process while they see their life from beginning to end. As it passes like a holographic movie at great speed he will be aware of the effect of every action, thought and word that came from him. If he hurt people, even unknowingly, he will be aware of that. If he helped others or made them happy he will be aware of that. After reviewing his life he will be aware of how successful his life was but most have a lot of disappointments over missed opportunities and harm that was caused.

”

I already have worked out and also understand all the words, actions, thoughts and deeds that hurt other people and also myself, so when I pass over, will I still have to go through that life review again, when I have already done a life review on myself so far in this physical life?

JJ

Everyone does a life review and just about all are in store for a lot of surprises, positive and negative. Most of those who think they have it all figured out of how all their thoughts and actions have influenced others and what they should have done differently are fooling themselves.

Us humans often see ourselves doing the best we can and our problems, our pain and our troubles just seem to arrive through no fault of our own. In the life review we will see that we were largely responsible for making our own reality and that there were things we could have done that would have made our lives, and that of others, much easier.

Ruth

Does that mean that I can go straight to my mental body, rather than have more emotional experiences etc in the astral realm?

JJ

You will go to a place where there are people with a similar vibration to your own. If you are mentally polarized you would go with that group and if you are astrally polarized, those are the type of people you will be with. So, in a way, we make our own heaven or hell. If one is hard to get along with, and not very loving, he will mix with similar individuals, but if he is loving and friendly he will live with these type of persons. The company he will keep will make for a heaven or hell.

Ruth

I would prefer to pass over and study massive amounts of teachings from DK etc, than play around in the astral realm and hang with people. Although it would be good to catch up with some of my pets who have passed over.

JJ

There are plenty of students of all kinds in both the astral and mental realms. A studious person isn’t necessarily mentally polarized and a strong people person isn’t necessarily astral. The main point of differentiation is the process by which decisions are made. Are the person’s decisions based on how he feels or thinks? Which dominates in the decision making process? There are other factors but that is a big part of it.

Ruth:

Your writings have evolved out of The Immortal Series, and have become something more, so I really hope that this book gets circulated out there into humanity’s consciousness, because it is so well worth reading and learning from.

JJ

Glad you like the book. Unlike many of my other writings my objective is not to introduce new material but to take the best of my teachings and distill them into a book the average person will enjoy. In the process there may be some good insights even for the old timers here.

I am hoping that this may be the book that catches the public’s attention. If not, I’ll keep on trying as long as I am able. Hopefully, we can get this work off the ground in my lifetime. It would be nice to have the means to effectively prepare for difficult times ahead.

 

April 29, 2014

Questions

Ruth:

When you say this :”it would be nice to have the means to effectively prepare for difficult times ahead”…..do you mean that you need to stockpile up food and water etc? and is a Great, Great, Great Depression coming, like what was foretold in the White Horse Prophecy?

JJ

Stockpiling some things on an individual basis is always a wise thing to do, but that was not what I was talking about. If there is a breakdown of society, much more than that would be needed. It is important that the lights have a place to gather so they will be able to have the extra protection of the group as well as raise food. If there were a breakdown, roaming mobs would be a major concern of which a gathering would provide some protection.

Ruth asked my views concerning euthanasia.

Under normal circumstances taking your own life is a major mistake. Most suicides are prompted by some difficult situation in life, but usually his situation was designed by the soul as a means to inspire growth and evolution for the pilgrim. If he takes his life he will have to come back and face a similar situation all over again, causing him to waste a lifetime of time.

A person who is in a no win situation is another matter. If one has a terminal illness and is suffering major pain with no hope for recovery then there normally wouldn’t be much negative karma. But even here the seeker must check with his soul for facing such a dead end may be something he needs to do to achieve all possible growth for that particular lifetime.

When in doubt, always check with the inner voice for one size never fits all.

Thanks for catching those typos. You got a few that I hadn’t caught yet.

 

May 1, 2014

Climbing the Mountain

That’s quite the post Larry. Thanks for your effort in writing and sharing.

Your post reminds me that many true seekers desire with earnestness to make the world a better place, move forward the next step in human evolution, secure the safety of the planet for generations to come and much more. Many have tried to initiate something to move us forward and seemed to have been met with a brick wall. I have been trying for many years and the only thing of substance I have accomplished is to get some foundation writings in print that is available for the public.

That said, I thought I would say a few words about the difficulty in initiating any work that moves people ahead spiritually. Allow me to start with this statement.

Advancing the next spiritual step is the most difficult of all things there are to initiate.

Let us look at some initiates who created things that merely made our lives better on the physical plane. There’s Edison and the light bulb, Tesla and the alternating current, Bell and the telephone, Philo Farnsworth and the television, Steve Jobs and the personal computer and many more that could be listed. To initiate their ideas required a lot of thought and effort and such innovators deserve a lot of credit.

They had a great advantage over a spiritual initiator in that when they presented their product to the world people could see with their own eyes that that it could enhance their lives. Sure they all encountered some resistance at first, but once the product was out there it was only a matter of time before it would be embraced.

On the other hand, an idea or concept that moves consciousness forward is another matter. One of the difficulties is that you just can’t show them a physical object and say, “See, this is how this works and it is going to make life a lot better.” I can write a treatise on The Molecular Relationship, for example, but I can’t build a model in my garage and show it to people and demonstrate how it will make life better.

To illustrate how difficult it is to move humanity forward in spiritual evolution let us look at two of the great initiates in our history.

Moses made a super human effort to gather together the best of humanity in his day with the idea that a gathered people being fed with enlightened ideas could become an “ensign to the nations” and could set an example of a quality of life that many would want to emulate.

Fortunately for Moses, he had a lot of help. Great miracles were shown to the people ending with the parting of the Red Sea to make their escape from the Pharaoh. After this the people saw many more miracles. The people even saw the presence of God in a pillar of light and Moses descending from the mountain shining as the sun.

Moses descended with enlightened writings designed to move the people forward in the spiritual evolution, but after all the signs and wonders they witnessed they reverted back to their old ways and worshipped the golden calf.

Moses then destroyed the great revelation and went back up the mountain and returned with tablets of stone and taught them a lesser law. Without the application of the greater revelation Israel did not accomplish their mission. They wandered in the dessert for 40 years. Anyone who had a consciousness deserving of a greater light would live through this time period and enter the promised land. As it turned out there was only one who qualified and that was Joshua , who later was born as Jesus.

Joshua then led the children of the unfaithful (who had all died) in establishing a nation – a nation several steps down from what was hoped to be.

The interesting thing is that great miracles were shown to the people so they could know with a surety that God was with Moses, but still only one of the whole lot saw the vision of what was supposed to be.

Then when the people were given crude laws, rules and regulations to strictly control their lives – this they gladly accepted – while rejecting the greater light that had the potential for such great joy.

Another great initiate was Jesus. Like Moses he showed the people miracles, the like of which they had never seen before. His work was consummated with the greatest miracle of all when he rose from the dead. All this should have convinced the people that he had something special that would take them closer to the spirit, right?

Not quite. After his great life and even after demonstrating the greatest miracle of all time, the resurrection, you would think that believers would have been rushing to join the disciples. Peter and the group gathered together all the believers they could find and guess what the number was?

One hundred and twenty. (Acts 1:15)

Then, after Pentecost, more great miracles were manifest and some were converted but the church struggled along attempting to teach the pure message of Jesus.

Then came a profound turning point through the work of the apostle Paul. Paul was not much for miracles but he did present a twist on the teachings that the people loved. “Believe on Jesus and be saved.”

That sounded a lot better and easier than the more difficult message of Peter and the apostles who were stressing the message from the Master of doing good works and gaining higher knowledge and furthering the creation of human groups who see eye to eye – like the Twelve.

Just believe and be saved was simple and easy to understand and this, not the teachings of Christ, caused the church to grow and prosper.

Paul initiated a great movement, but at the cost of taking the people away from the core teachings of the Christ.

So we have two great examples of the failure of great signs and wonders in producing good results. Moses was only able to leave a legacy of a nation that was just another nation and Jesus was only able to leave behind a church that was just another church, not much more enlightened than the Romans already had.

Is it any wonder then that the Hierarchy is reluctant today to establish another work through the power of signs, wonders and miracles?

What do you think they would rather have to work with: Millions of people mesmerized over an initiate who seems to have the power of God, or a dozen people who can look within, feel the soul and see truth as it really is?

I will tell you that the latter is true at this point. That is not to say that great miracles will not happen again, but the Brotherhood has come to the realization that they are not that useful in moving people ahead spiritually. Putting out the pure teachings and letting them foment in the minds of the seekers may not produce immediate or spectacular effects among the masses, but for those who are ready they will work inner wonders greater than would be produced if an initiate should be raised from the dead.

So, I your teacher move forward, giving out what light I can that will speak to your inner core. A person here and another there feels the power of the principles speaking to their souls. Not much is happening in the outer world, but because a few of us persist and will not cease from our labors, success is only a matter of time.

And this time the success will not be in numbers alone, such as great numbers of people who do not want to climb the mountain, but just want to bask in an outer light. No. This time a people will gather within whom shines an inner light set on fire through inner struggle and motivated by faith in the triumph of all that is good, beautiful and true.

Let not your faith and hope falter my friends. We only fail if we quit the journey. I am moving forward in this life and however many it takes until the goal is achieved. I hope to see you at the journey’s end.

 

May 3, 2014

What Can I Do?

I regularly get questions of what can be done to get things off the ground. Here I gathered some old and added some new.

As far as practicality goes there is nothing more practical than the understanding of a principle, especially if seen through the light of the soul on an intuitive level. This will often be accompanied by a flash of internal light that multiplies the understanding. Such an instantaneous flash can be worth a year’s worth of study. Actually, it is more valuable than that because the flash will reveal reliable truth whereas a year’s worth of study may fill the mind with many illusions.

Those who do not see or appreciate the principles I teach will be more drawn to information only that gives various step-by-step process to accomplish improvement of some kind. Each person should go where his needs are best met. One size does not fit all.

My teachings then bring additional light on principles from the past and present, and new ones that have never been expanded on.

And for what purpose?

Am I seeking to help you enter the now and stop worrying about the non essentials?

No. That may be a side benefit to some of my teachings, but if the seeker needs help in this area then he should find other help than myself.

Do I just want to get famous, sell a lot of books and then get a large adoring base of fans?

Some think they see a huge ego in me wanting this, but it is not so. If this was all I accomplished I would consider my life a failure.

Do I intend to help students become more successful in life, obtain peace of mind and find meaning for themselves?

No. It’s up to each seeker to take care of these personality needs. This is not my responsibility, but your own.

The only area of self-improvement that I seek to make available is through the stimulation of the intuition through the understanding of true principles. This will also stimulate soul contact.

Any self improvement seekers achieve here is a side benefit. The main purpose here is not to improve various seekers, but to FIND them. I seek to find those who are already sensitive to the whisperings of the soul, and eventually gather them.

I seek to be an element in fulfilling this scripture:

11   “And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

12   “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”

(Isa 11:11-12)

Look at The Archives [at FreeRead.Com] and the millions of words there that lift the reader into the realm of intuitive principles and you will see a seed that will blossom into the ensign to the nations around which many lights will eventually gather.

It is true that right now we are only reaching a few but the time will come that we will reach the many. When the many are reached then power will be given to gather and build anew cities that set a true ensign for the new age.

The end of my work is to gather and build anew on the physical plane. Even though many inner teachings are presented the end goal lies in this physical reality, not in entering into a void or withdrawing into peaceful meditations.

Each must pick the directions impressed upon him through his soul and I do not fault anyone who is led in a different direction than presented here. Those who are to be on the same path as myself will feel thus truth internally. They will sense the principle and the need for the gathering. They are willing to take as long as it takes to accomplish this even if it requires a series of lives.

So what is a seeker to do who feels in harmony with me? Is there any call for action?

Yes there is and I will repeat the call here. If you believe in the gathering you can assist by forming a study group in your area. There are many seekers in every area of the world who have not been exposed to the Keys or my books. Anyone who wants to help can teach others. This takes effort but it can be done and the reward will be great as well as helpful.

Several have tried this with limited success. All who do this must realize that forming a successful group takes a long sustained effort.

If anyone wants action then create a local group. There is no more powerful action you can take than that.

Here is some advice in that direction:

Start with your friends. Most of us know at least a couple people with a metaphysical bent. Call them and tell them you are going to form a study group and study some new teachings you discovered on the Internet and see if they are interested. If you do not know anyone interested in metaphysics you probably need to get out more, but all is not lost. I am always here to support you with ideas.

First, select a place that will accommodate at least a dozen people. There is nothing wrong with starting with a home or apartment.

If your place is small it is quite possible that one of your first students will have a large comfortable home that they would be happy to share.

There are also some places that may allow you to meet on a free basis. Some libraries have rooms for meetings that are either free or very inexpensive. Also check with your bookstores. Some of them will let you have meetings there in hope of selling your group some books. Many restaurants have meeting rooms they will give groups for free if they buy $50 or more worth of food.

If you have a little money to work with you could find a meeting room connected with a local Motel, YMCA, New Age Center, martial arts club or some other organization and rent it on a weekly basis. If you do this you will need to collect some dues from members so you will not have to bear the whole burden. Once you get ten people or so the expense will not be much of a burden on any one individual.

Once you select a definite meeting place then you must do some promotion.

First let’s cover what you can do for free.

Many newspapers and the local Craig’s List have sections that are totally free where you can announce on a weekly basis details about any weekly meetings your group may have. Call them up and see what they have available. You can also advertise local classes on Cragslist.org.

Local TV and Cable channels also have places for free announcements. Check them out.

Print up flyers (or I’ll print them for you) announcing your project and circulate them in book stores, metaphysical centers, health food stores and so on.

Newspapers love doing features that have something to do with the Internet. Call the features editor and tell him or her that you have been participating with a study group on the Internet and are going to extend it to the local people. Chat a while with this person and he may want to write about you.

Now you have exhausted the free methods you should spend a few dollars in regular advertising. Check around and see if there are any metaphysical or alternative health newsletters in your area and run a small ad there.

If you are bold enough to do public speaking then work one up around the Molecular Relationship, the Gathering of Lights or some other topic that interests you.

You’ll need a name for the physical group. May I suggest “The Synthesis Group.”

To synthesize means to gather together various unrelated parts and to put them together into a working whole which wholeness is greater than the sum of the parts.

For instance our discussion group is a synthesis of some of the best people on the Internet.

When your group gets started and you do your part it will take on a life of its own and grow by word of mouth.

On the internet we are gathered as a group and know a few things the average people do not know, but we have little voice except to preach to the choir of like-minded believers.

The first thing each servant of humanity needs to assess is his own limitations – what he can and cannot do. One of the biggest mistakes made by an individual who sees a little light is to sacrifice career, job and family to start some movement that goes nowhere. Many such individuals are lucky to have three followers.

Others go the other extreme and do nothing. This is even worse because they also learn nothing.

What then should the true seeker do to make a difference?

Jesus gave the example in the parable of building a tower. He said that if a person wants to build a tower he must assess the amount of effort and ingredients it will take to finish the project. If he begins and does not have the power to finish then everyone will laugh at him for being so foolish. The wise builder will assess correctly and will not start the tower until he has the power to finish.

Some have questioned me as to why I am not proceeding with zeal to create Molecules, build cities, reform civilization, etc. Yes, there are towers to build, but until we gain the power to finish what we begin – the time to begin has not yet arrived. If we have not power to finish the tower then the thing to do is to gather the materials and resources to prepare for a beginning so we can have a finish.

Right now I have power to do one thing well and that is to write foundation materials and circulate them to a small group of people. If I should die tomorrow, however, all is not lost for many of the concepts contain eternal words that shall not pass away and would be taken up by others who are in a position to build towers.

My astrological chart tells me that I will be subject to strong discipline from Saturn until I get everything in place for my main work. When everything is in place and my will and abilities are sufficiently fine-tuned then a reservoir of power will be released to allow for a major accomplishment. I believe this time is soon, but cannot predict the exact date.

Here is what must happen to open the door for me to begin work on the tower.

One of my works must permeate public consciousness on a fairly wide scale. This could be one of my present or future books, an idea or me in person when I am free to travel and give seminars.

Sufficient finances to sustain the effort.

That’s well and good one may think, but I’d like to do something more in the present than just sit around and wait for the true beginning of the work.

There is always something more the true initiate can find to do.

Here are a few things:

An idea I do not think I have suggested before, but a very powerful one is to write letters to your local paper. Letters to the editor are often the most popular part of the paper and many thousands read them.

If you write a letter to your local paper and manage to make a reference to freeread.com or themajorityspeaks.com a lot of hits could come from it. I have covered a large variety of subjects at these sites so there is something of interest to almost everyone.

Global warming, nuclear energy, world peace, the economy, religion etc are popular in letters to the editor and writers can reference links to these subjects in my writings. This would certainly press some buttons.

Keep this in mind. A letter to the editor in a major paper that gives our web page is worth 500 dollars or more in advertising.

Many of the group are members of other forums. When appropriate you can post something from the archives there and give the reference with the suggestion to the group that many writings are available.

You can run a classified ad in a local thrifty paper – or free on your local Craig’s List.

The ad could read something like this:

Out Of The Thousands Of Free Books On The Web There Is Not One That Will Hold Your Attention Like This One!

THE IMMORTAL

By

J. J. Dewey

The Immortal is the story of an average truth seeker who stumbles across a fascinating teacher, only to discover that the man is John the Revelator of Apocalypse fame, who has been wandering the earth incognito for the past 2000 years. John begins the task of teaching his new student the first of the Twelve Keys of Knowledge.

The first question addressed in Book I is WHO OR WHAT AM I? The student gives all the standard answers…and they are all wrong. The lead character then realizes he is under the tutorage of no ordinary teacher and must apply himself in a quest for knowledge.

Top get the first book free go to:

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You can get copies of Book One in audio or hard copy and give them away. We will send them to you free of charge.

Members can also buy books and give them away.

Participate in the keys forum. Posting there helps keep me stimulated and helps others.

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May 17, 2014

Freedom Dialog

Soryn:

One of the issues with capitalism is that everything’s for sale. Capitalism is like a spoiled child completely out of parental control. It gave people all the freedom in the world (to buy guns and cars and houses and airplanes and lands and people and even countries), but at the same time people ended up having no ethical limits to guide their “freedom”.

JJ

You’re not making any sense here. Are you saying that in a capitalistic country you can buy guns and cars and houses and airplanes and lands etc but in socialist France or Denmark you cannot? Last time I checked you could buy stuff in socialist countries just like you can here. Even in communist Cuba you can buy stuff for money. Some would almost sell their kids for a good internet connection there, or a T-bone steak.

And why is capitalism any more like a spoiled brat than a socialist country? There are spoiled brats in both locations. A spoiled child though is one who will abuse others for his own selfish will and I think you’ll find this type of individual in a lot larger numbers in socialist bureaucracies than in capitalist businesses. I don’t recall ever meeting a free market individual that was as spoiled as the average government bureaucrat.

Soryan

This poses a particular problem when it comes to food, because it is one of the prime necessities for survival. Survival – this is a good criterion to distinguish between capitalism and socialism. When it comes to basic needs of survival, socialism should kick in.

JJ

Does not compute.

North Korea and Cuba are as socialist as you can get and their people are starving. The only thing keeping Cuba afloat all these years is an underground economy using U.S, dollars. In North Korea the people have to eat tree bark and grass to survive.

In history we find that the greater the enforcement of socialism is the less fresh food is available.

In the last 100 years American has fed the world more than any country in history thanks to freedom and capitalism. That may be coming to an end as we are selling our freedoms down the river (not rover – typo in the last post)

Soryin;

Basic needs are a general good and a human right.

JJ

And who decided this? If a guy wants to cease all work and just play and have fun does he have the right to be supported by the rest of us? I think not.

In a free society do we have an obligation to help those in need who cannot help themselves? Yes. And in a free society this will happen.

Let’s go back to my youth when free enterprise flourished much more than today. When I had the accident in 1958 I spent over a month in the hospital and had two operations. Health care was so cheap that we paid it all off in the worst of circumstances. My mom and Dad just divorced and my Dad took off to Central America. We had no child support, no food stamps, no welfare and we had to pick fruit to survive in the summer or my mom worked for a minimum wage at other times.

Then I needed some reconstructive surgery that called for an expensive specialist. We couldn’t afford it so my mom found a private charity that helped and they paid for two more months in the hospital and four more operations.

We received all this help from these spoiled capitalists. Thanks to government attempts to help us and the restrictions of freedom imposed on the medical system today a fruit picker could never pay for a month in the hospital today nor could he find a charity with deep enough pockets for an additional two months and four special surgeries. The best hope today would be to get help through Medicaid, but that is not free. Every taxpayer pays through the nose for Medicare and Medicaid whether he uses it or not. The charities that helped me cost the taxpayer NOTHING. Everything was given entirely through free will.

Soryn:

Let’s make sure we live in a just world by allowing people to get on their feet where it is required. Let’s allow them, at least, to be able to make a failure or a success of their lives.)

JJ

And that is what happens in a free society.

After my accident at the age of 13 the only job I could get was orchard work – mostly fruit picking. I usually worked with my friend Wayne who was very competitive and if he picked more than me he would brag about it and rub it in. I decided I couldn’t let that happen so I increased my skills. Wayne and I were generally he fastest pickers in the orchard. We made around $20-$40 an hour in today’s money.

I bought all my school supplies and clothes. And I bought the finest clothes money could buy at the time, thinking that would impress the girls. Then I went in with my mom and we bought a car together.

I helped out with the food budget. If there was something I wanted to eat that my mom thought was too expensive I would buy it myself. Then I hunted a lot and brought home pheasants and ducks on a regular basis. I also fished a lot and brought home bass, bluegill, crappie and catfish – more than we could eat. In addition I raised pigs and chickens.

My mom was thrifty and industrious and her winter work at the potato plant later turned to full time and overall we had pretty good life by standing on our own two feet. I didn’t know anyone who was doing without food or going hungry. A lot of people thought our little family was the worst off they knew, but we didn’t see it that way.

Everything seemed to just work a lot better economically in those days. If we had the technology of today and the freedom of the past era we would have more abundance than we would know what to do with.

Soryn

Food. Something needs to change here. Raj Patel offers some insights on the matter. I would say that competition is overall bad when it comes to food. Investors trying to sell their products invest more on advertising (package), on durability and grow through unhealthy chemicals.

JJ

Reality does not bear out your competition idea. Countries with little competition like North Korea, Cuba, the Old Soviet Union have shortages whereas the U.S, has always had abundance.

Advertising is the necessary fuel to make the market and distribution system work. Countries than ban advertising unusually suffer food shortages or starvation.

I’m with you with the unhealthy chemicals. As people get educated they are buying more organic foods of their own free will, forcing many large companies to change their ways.

Soryn:

You see products imported from the other side of the planet because they are cheaper.

JJ

And why is that a bad thing? It allows many poor people to earn a living.

Soryn:

Most of the food supply should be localized – this creates less competition.

JJ

Where do you get that idea? We rarely imported food when I was a kid and everything seemed as competitive or moreso at that time. I think that growing our own food for health purposes and self sufficiency is good but it doesn’t eliminate competition.

Soryn;

The principle at stake here will be a socialist one. My grandfather had a piece of land that he harvested with some shared technological means. They were using some big machines to fertilize and to harvest the lands. At the end, they would split the production. Everyone got his share of food. And boy that farmer food was delicious, as opposed to the garbage that you find now in the supermarket.

JJ

Shared gardens are popular here in the United States and this idea can flourish in a free society.

Soryan

Private versus public property is another good criterion. Investors trying to buy the park where I go each day to take a breath of fresh air and replace it with a massive complex of skyscrapers of steel and glass should be restricted to a public decision.

JJ

Private parks are run much better than public ones and the visitors are much happier. Check out these videos.

VIDEO 1

VIDEO 2

Soryn:

The actual people that live in that place should decide whether or not it is in the public’s interest to allow the investor to swipe the park.

JJ

This can happen with a private park. Again, check out the video.

Soryn:

False advertising needs to be regulated (I’m tired of products being advertised in the falsest way possible). Also, safety and health measures (socialism) need to be in place.

JJ

These things can be controlled through the threat of legal action in a free society.

Soryn:

I just wanted to add that I think we have the technological means to greatly reduce the food problem across the globe.

JJ

Here we agree, but this cannot be accomplished by a dictator giving out orders. The second video link gives an example of how the pilgrims solved the food problem.

Soryn:

Reducing corporate exploitation and pollution can greatly improve the lives of those people that provide food to rich countries.

JJ

There are areas where people do complain of corporations who overreach, but these are often in countries that are highly regulated wit little free enterprise for the individual.

Abuse is not limited to corporations. Communist China makes U.S., corporations look like Mother Teresa. Here are two examples from Wikipedia:

From 1993 to 2003, 2.5 million people were evicted in the city of Shanghai. In preparation for the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, many of Beijing’s densely populated neighborhoods were torn down in order to make way for new developments and infrastructure projects. The Center on Housing Rights and Evictions estimated that 1.5 million people in and around Beijing were forced from their homes, often with inadequate compensation. Chinese authorities maintained only 6,000 families were relocated, and that all received proper compensation.

From 1995 to 2005, an average of 86,754 people were evicted annually in connection to the Three Gorges Dam, totaling an estimated 1.4 million people. Recalcitrant residents in the city of Chongqing had their water and electricity turned off in order to force them to move; the residents said they had not yet left because proper resettlement hadn’t been arranged.

Soryn

Let me give you another example of what socialism can mean nowadays.

In Paris you are not allowed to build anything that is not compatible with the esthetic and architectural design of the city. You cannot build buildings higher than a couple of stores, and you cannot build ugly glass and steel skyscrapers nonsense. Amazing isn’t it? That’s called urban planning and design. Or the taste of a community for beauty and living conditions.

JJ

Communities in the United States do the same thing without government involvement. Each community has their privately written covenants and restrictions that people agree to when they move in or build. If they do not like them they can purchase elsewhere.

Well, this is not the simple one piece at a time approach I was talking about. I’ll try to get back in that direction shortly.

More Freedom Dialog

Here’s the question I was trying to steer us toward:

“Some of the ideals of socialism are in a good direction such as relief from hunger, poverty, discrimination etc.

“The question is – how many freedoms are we willing to sell down the river to accomplish these things and can they be accomplished in a state of maximum freedom (which has never existed in modern civilization).”

Okay, time to get more specific. There are some types of force that is accepted by most citizens on both sides of the equation. It is accepted by the vast majority that there should be police power to restrict obvious criminal activity such as murder, rape, theft, etc. A handful of criminals may not agree with this but most would not think the criminals are subject to a tyranny of the majority because of the high degree of agreement of the people.

Taxes, or the increase that a government takes from citizens through the threat of force is the biggest source of disagreement. But even here way over 90% of the population support some sort of taxes for essentials such as defense, roads, police, fire etc. Few would consider taxes collected and spent for purposes on which almost all agree as a tyranny of the majority, or a minority.

The problem enters in when a minority begins demanding an increase in taxes for a social program that is not essential and could be accomplished by citizens through free will.

Notice, that I said, “minority.” That is because these type of movements are always started by a minority and then when they are implemented, and people become dependent on them, a majority often end up supporting such things, even if they lead to ruin.

The point is if the use of force is restricted to things that has a large majority of support (such as keeping criminals off the street) we will stay on the path of safety.

That said, the majority of the taxpayers are reluctant to support government force in taking more money out of their pockets to give to someone else who did not work for it.

Now the people, as a whole, feel it is morally all right to tax the people to support true essentials, so the question is this. What percentage of the people who have to pay should agree to an increase in taxes to support a social program that is for a good cause such as giving the poor some extra support in food stamps and welfare?

Suppose 70% of the taxpayers are against it but the 30% are in power. Are the 30% justified in for forcefully taking money out of the pockets of the 70% for something they do not support and feel is theft?

Reply

Soryn:

Scandinavia is the best example of creating successful models of democratic socialism countries.

According to the following index: The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic of life expectancy, education, and income indices used to rank countries into four tiers of human …

they all rate higher than US in terms of inequality adjusted indexes. They are on par when it comes to abundance.

JJ

And why is that a good thing? North Korea has the most equal bunch of robotic government controlled people in the world and I certainly would not want to live there. Equality for the sake of equality is meaningless.

Soryn:

Are higher taxes a sure way to disaster? Well check this out:

LINK

Denmark taxes its people with a whooping 46% per revenue, almost half goes to the state! They have abundance and they obviously rate higher than US when it comes to social inequality. And according to that site “Small businesses thrive, with over 70 percent of companies having 50 employees or less”.

JJ

Demark has it good. We pay close to 70% here when all taxes are added up.

In 2006 a family with a median income of $48,201 paid the following to Uncle Sam.

Federal – 19.14%

Payroll – 7.65%

15.3% if self employed in 2008

State & Local – 11%

Corporate taxes which are passed on as higher prices – 6.68%

Excise and other taxes – 3.24%

Cost of compliances to regulations and taxes – 11.33%

Inflation due to government overspending – 3.2% (going up soon)

Total taxes

If self-employed 69.89%.

If working for someone else it would be 62.64% plus another 7.65% your employer pays on payroll tax that he could give to you in a raise if Uncle Sam did not take it.

You can’t really use the United States as an example of results from low taxation.

Soryn

Those countries are also healthier. More social awareness means less commercialization and less food market nonsense competition.

JJ

And that can be due to a number of things. Diabetes has risen dramatically in the past couple decades in the United States because we have switched from regular sugar to fructose?

And why did we do that? Again because of government meddling. Price supports for beet and cane sugar raised its prices and forced business to switch to the cheaper fructose and the switch has caused a plague of diabetes.

Almost every problem we have can be traced to some type of government action aimed at helping the poor unwashed.

May 18, 2014

 

The Molecular Business

Larry Woods and Duke want to know why a molecular business can’t start small and grow big. After all, Apple computer started out with a couple guys working in a garage.

A product or service central to a business is a lot different animal than the business enterprise that manufactures, sells and distributes the products. Apple itself has changed its business model a number of times while seeking the highest profit possible. For instance, they have gone from doing all their manufacturing here in the United States to doing most of it in China.

To think the Molecular Business wouldn’t be viable if it can’t be started successfully with three or four employees is like saying a car is not a good idea if all you have in your possession are the tires. To create a successful car you need all the ingredients, not just part.

If one starts a business with a few dedicated people you’d have to start it the normal way. Why?

Because the key ingredient to the Molecular Business is equality of pay and the guy who starts a business on a shoestring generally has to be motivated by making enough profit to feed his family. In addition to this when you have a handful of people in a small business the labor intensity is so different that similar pay could cause some problems. Also, a small business is often very sales intensive and salespeople, especially in a small business, need to be motivated by some type of commission or bonus for their skill and hard work.

Any business that starts with a handful of people needs to be started pretty much the way people do it now.

I have a small business and there is no way I could make it molecular unless I expanded to the point where I could hire 20-30 employees. We’ve had employees in the past but for now it is just my wife and I and we’ve had to scale it down since we’ve been taking care of her elderly mother.

Larry says: “Many here are perfectly willing and able to act on faith. We can begin with volunteer labor.”

JJ

That’s news to me. You really think that many from the group would be willing to quit their jobs, leave their families and move to a central location to start a business on faith with no guarantee of success?

On the other hand, if I had the funds to set up such a business and offered a reasonable salary I’d have no problem filling it with local people and some keys members may even move here to help.

And, by the way, the Molecular Business is not meant to just be for the enlightened but it would attract a wide variety of people.

Duke:

Is there any reason why a non-molecular business couldn’t choose to transition to a molecular model?

JJ

Yes. In a regular business there are many pay grades and those making the most money, which are also those with the most power, would not want to give up half or more of their salaries. Making the switch with a regular business would be almost impossible at this time. Starting fresh would be quite easy if one had the money because it is easy to hire an unlimited number of people if you offer a reasonable base salary. Then the management could be drawn from the entry-level people.

Duke:

Why 24 people?   I understand where that number comes from (the Molecular Relationship), but why would it also apply to a business?

JJ

I didn’t pick 24 because that is some absolute number for the business. You’d just need a business organization with 20-30, or more people to implement the principles.

I’ve got plenty on my plate now trying to make my publishing business take off while still taking care of old customers from my sign business. If I wanted to expand the sign business from scratch in an attempt to make it molecular then I’d have to take my attention off writing and some other important things I am pursuing and put it all on the business. It takes close to 100% attention and effort to get a business off the ground when you are limited with capital.

I’ve put the Molecular Business ideas out there and anyone who is enterprising can attempt to run with them. Unfortunately, I am limited in what I can do and have to put my attention where I deem it to be most important and at the moment that is getting a book before the public that will catch their attention.

It is interesting that since I first came up with the Molecular Business idea around 30 years ago that many businesses have moved much closer to the model. The most successful grocery store in this area is WINCO, which is employee owned, and workers are treated much more equally than the regular business model.

I do not know of any business following the full molecular model, but the day will come whether by my hand or another, whether this life or another. It is just a matter of time.

 

May 18, 2014

The Question

Dan;

Thought I would point out to future answerers that JJ’s question is NOT “what % of people should agree to an increase in taxes …” but “what % of people THAT HAVE TO PAY should agree to an increase in taxes …” – which is an entirely different animal.

JJ

Good perception Dan – applying the Third Key here.

Dan:

IMO, in the perfect community/society, force would never be used in such a way (take from one to give to another) period.

JJ

In the eventual Zion society that will be established all group financing will be accomplished through free will donations o some type of free market endeavor. Unfortunately, the general consciousness of the people is not there yet. This is one reason there has to be a gathering of the pure in heart who are willing to give what is necessary to make things work. When a significant number prove it can be done then others will follow.

By the way, you gave a good selection of quotes on freedom. I enjoyed reading them even though I wrote them. i forget a lot of what i have written so sometimes my quotes seem new to me, but still familiar and in line with my current thinking.

Duke:

In the hypothetical, I don’t know how dire the need is.

JJ

The need would be what it is now. Note the wording of the question:

“…such as giving the poor some extra support in food stamps and welfare?”

This does not involve a choice as to whether the poor receive any help at all, but “extra” help.

Basically though the principle of force applies to all situations. The point is though that 70% would not resist helping others if they thought they could afford it ad the request was reasonable.

Duke:

But a lot of very good ideas (like abolishing slavery) started out as a minority position. Did their minority status make them any less the “right thing to do” at the time?

JJ

A lot of people think this but it is not quite true. A majority of the states before the civil war were against slavery and did not allow it and the majority of the people in the country were against slavery.

The majority usually make the right decision and the top 70% just about always do.

Duke:

The abolitionist movement began many generations before the Civil War, and it’s unlikely that it was a majority position from the beginning, considering how long it was before the Emancipation Proclamation. I’m talking about those early days, before it was the majority position – was it right?   Or did it not become right until it became the majority position?

JJ

The majority were definitely against slavery in the years leading up to the Civil War. There is no way of knowing if this was true at the founding of this country. I would guess that it was close to fifty-fifty. A lot of the Founders were against slavery but allowed it in the Costitution in order to create the new nation, which would not have happened if they would have opposed it. Some figured they could abolish it later which is what happened.

In ancient times, slavery was so common among all races that the people just accepted it. From my study of history I don’t think a lot of them questioned whether it was right or wrong but was just something that had to be. Most of the slaves didn’t even see slavery as evil unless they were mistreated by their masters. Even Jesus said nothing about it. Hypocrisy was the evil that bothered him the most in that age. Everywhere you see the word “servant’ in the New testament it comes from the Greek word for slave.

The bottom line is consciousness has to change before customs will change.

JJ

The majority usually make the right decision and the top 70% just about always do.

Duke

Then perhaps we should just watch the polls and side with the majority, especially if it’s a large majority. That would be much easier than making up our own minds. Let some outside authority (in this case the majority) make up our minds for us.

JJ

I have never ever given the slightest indication that the majority view should be used to make up our minds as to what is true or right. What I have said is the majority, when presented with the facts, will usually head in a common sense direction and if 70% or more choose a particular side of a debate, it is usually correct. For instance, close to 70% of the people want more investigation to find out the truth about the Benghazi attacks and that certainly sounds like a common sense direction to me. It is difficult to find an area where 70% of the people want to go in a totally illogical direction.

The majority is not that great at seeking subtle truth though and one certainly wants to use his own soul to discern that rather than following the majority. Just over 70% believe that reincarnation is a bunch of mumbo jumbo, for instance, but this does not effect the quality of my life.

Some of the things the majority supported 1000 years ago as being good are seen as evil today and some of the things the majority support today will be seen as evil 1000 years hence. Even so, the teachers of the race must work with majority will to move our spiritual evolution forward and little by little the next correct step is seen.

 

May 19, 2014

The Second Question

Here was the last question:

Now the people, as a whole, feel it is morally all right to tax the people to support true essentials, so the question is this. What percentage of the people who have to pay should agree to an increase in taxes to support a social program that is for a good cause, such as giving the poor some extra support in food stamps and welfare?

We received quite a bit of comment on this but not many specific answers of which there were only three:

Keith 51%

Dan 60%, or what people agree upon.

Johann 75%

Ruth kinda said 100% and Matthew kinda said 51%. Soryn is mysteriously silent on this.

So far the group believes that the taxpayers should not endure a tax increased unless a majority or more agree. And, as Dan noticed, I specified the will of those who are affected. If non taxpayers get a benefit by raising the taxes of those who pay then close to 100% of them will think it is a great idea because they will not be negatively affected. If the majority will of those who actually contribute is considered then the taxes will never reach an unreasonable level.

The figure arrived at here has nothing to do with the cause, whether it be food stamps or defense or research the sex lives of bugs. We must realize that if the cause is really just or important that an informed majority will generally support it no matter what it is. If it is completely unnecessary or frivolous then they will not.

True, the majority is not always right, but it has been coming much closer to the correct path than the President or Congress. No human system will be right all the time so we must seek to implement the highest that the consciousness of the people can accept.

Next question.

Suppose 70% of the taxpayers are against it but the 30% are in power. Are the 30% justified in forcefully taking money out of the pockets of the 70% for something they do not support and feel is theft?

Everyone who answered this agreed that the 30% would not be justified. What many do not realize is this is pretty close to what is happening today. The will of about 30% of the taxpayers are forcing increases on the 70%.

Next Question; Many social programs, such as Obamacare have to be mostly financed, not with taxes, but borrowed money that our children must pay interest on. How urgent must the need be before we borrow more money to help certain citizens? Give examples.

Duke:

Personally, I am much more comfortable with the idea of using good judgment to the best of one’s ability in whatever the circumstances may be, and that may or may not include giving weight to the majority opinion.

JJ

But my good judgement has no weight with Congress or the President. The best we can do is take our good judgment and attempt to educate and change the future direction.

Duke:

Getting back to your first question: “What percentage of the people who have to pay should agree to an increase in taxes to support a social program that is for a good cause, such as giving the poor some extra support in food stamps and welfare?”

In a democracy that does not distinguish between those who pay taxes and those who do not, if the majority will (as expressed through the elected representatives in our case) is to raise taxes, then that is the will of the people.

JJ

It doesn’t matter whether or not taxpayers are distinguished the question can still be answered.

The representatives often do not represent the will of the people just because we elect them. We generally have the choice between two establishment candidates out of touch with the people. When they raise our taxes and then give themselves as much as a 25% pay increase so they will be insulated from their actions this does not represent the will of the people.

Duke:

If you are advocating a democracy that allocates voting power according to taxes paid, then that’s a different form of government, and in that case presumably the consent of a majority of the taxpayers is required. To what extent should voting power be proportional to taxes paid?

JJ

I never said anything about the amount of taxes paid, but about half the people do not pay any federal taxes at all and they are getting more and more power to influence representatives to “tax the rich” which winds up being an increase on all taxpayers. Our representatives should give high consideration to the will of the taxpayer since he is impacted by federal taxes where the non taxpayers are not. The payroll tax would have a much wider net. In a direct democracy (which we do not have) only the taxpayers should be able to vote on a tax increase.

Duke:

However if the 30% came to power in a fair election, then I have little pity on the 70%. They chose to be divided, and so they have been conquered. But hopefully only until the next election.

JJ

Well I certainly have not chosen the current outcomes of legislation. We often have the choice between two people who will take us the same direction so that is no choice at all. That is why I have proposed the system of Molecular Politics outlined in themajorityspeaks.com. This will give much more power to the peopl

“Here was the last question:

Now the people, as a whole, feel it is morally all right to tax the people to support true essentials, so the question is this. What percentage of the people who have to pay should agree to an increase in taxes to support a social program that is for a good cause, such as giving the poor some extra support in food stamps and welfare? Soryn is mysteriously silent on this.”

Sorin

Well, majority means 51%, don’t know what else to comment.

JJ

We know what majority means but you still did not answer the question. I am curious what your answer would be.

 

May 20, 2014

The Swiss System

I made a delightful discovery today. I found that the government of Switzerland operates very close to what I have presented in my treatise Molecular Politics.

I have known for some time that the people there voted on various referendums there, but I always assumed their referendums worked something like our system.

I was wrong.

What kind of piqued my interest was hearing the news story that the Swiss had rejected a $25 minimum wage, and before and after this vote they have had no minimum wage. Actually in U.S. dollars the amount was $17.60, not $25.

In an application of direct democracy 76% of the people voted no on the measure.

I read up on the Swiss form of government and here are several areas where their democracy works better than ours.

Here if Congress passes a bad law or the Supreme Court interprets it in a certain way we are stuck. Changing it is almost impossible.

In Switzerland, if the people think the law is bad they can call for a vote of the people and throw the bill out the window.

We do not have national referendums here but many states have them. The trouble in the U.S. is that even after the will of the people express themselves in a majority vote the legislators will often go to court to overturn it. This happens a large percentage of the time here.

Not in Switzerland. There the will of the people is the ultimate power. This is what our Founders wanted to happen through establishing a jury system that could throw out bad law but it has been corrupted.

Citizens can also initiate measures. All one has to do is collect 100,000 signatures and then it will be presented to the people for a vote.

They still have a representative government that handles all the mundane legislation, but when something comes up that is considered important the people step in and make the decision.

The fact that the people are the final power that can trash bad legislation keeps the legislators in check. It stops them from funding a Bridge to Nowhere.

The fact that they have one of the most vital economies in the world is a testament that their democratic system works. Their GDP is steadily rising, their unemployment rate is around 3%, they export more than they import, they have no national debt, citizens can openly carry arms on buses yet the crime rate is very low, they have strict control over their borders, no minimum wage, fewer regulations, employers are free to fire anyone, but if you want to work you can usually get a job. They have a welfare system that is not needed that often but works on a local rather than national level – a little like charities used to be here.

And they have achieved this high economic standing without the benefit of oil, as is the case in Norway, Sweden and the UK.

One may wonder why such a high minimum wage of $17.60 got on the ballot to begin with – which would have made it the highest in the world. The reason is that 90% of the people make more than that. The average wage there is $37.00 an hour and only 10% of the people would be effected by the minimum wage and of those the effect would have been small because most of that 10% made close to $17.60 an hour already. Even so, 76% of the people thought it was not necessary and rejected it.

I’m going to look deeper into the Swiss system but so far it seems to provide a lot of evidence that a direct democracy where the real ultimate power lies in the hands of the people is indeed workable. I’m mystified that I haven’t heard more about it.

Sorin

This form of direct democracy (which is binding) exists in some other countries, like Croatia, Italy, or Hungary.

See this for a list: 

Also, in some countries the constitution can be modified only by referendum (binding).

In Romania, the president can call for a referendum on any subject, which has binding power. Same in France. Also, in Romania any modification of the constitution is approved through referendum. There is no institution that can cancel the will of the people.

JJ

The referendums in those countries have a lot more restrictions than the Swiss. For instance, of Hungary it says:

The Constitution imposes a number of prohibitions on matters on which a referendum can be held, including amending Constitution, budget, taxing, obligations from international agreements, military operations, etc. Required voter turnout for the referendum to be valid is 50%. The decision made by a referendum is binding on the Parliament.

A Swiss referendum usually gets a little less than 50% turnout so by Hungary’s guidelines it would be negated right there.

Sounds like some of the countries have referendums on the books to give the illusion of participation by the people. The Swiss seem to be the only country that has democratic participation with real teeth.

 

May 20, 2014

Jefferson & Democracy

Good comments on juries lwk. You say:

As to what the Founders wanted, there is considerable documentation of their distrust of direct democracy as practiced in Switzerland.

JJ

They were divided over that. Jefferson, for instance, was a big supporter of the will of the people being supreme.

Here’s some quotes:

Where the law of the majority ceases to be acknowledged, there government ends; the law of the strongest takes its place, and life and property are his who can take them. (Quote from Thomas Jefferson to Annapolis Citizens, 1809)

“Laws made by common consent must not be trampled on by individuals” –Thomas Jefferson to Garret Vanmeter, 1781 ME 4:417, Papers 5:566

“If we are faithful to our country, IF WE ACQUIESCE, WITH GOOD WILL, IN THE DECISIONS OF THE MAJORITY, AND THE NATION MOVES IN MASS IN THE SAME DIRECTION, ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT BE THAT WHICH EVERY INDIVIDUAL THINKS BEST, we have nothing to fear from any quarter” –Thomas Jefferson to Virginia Baptists, 1808 ME 16:321

“THE FIRST PRINCIPLE OF REPUBLICANISM IS THAT THE LEX MAJORIS PARTIS (THE LAW OF THE MAJORITY) IS THE FUNDAMENTAL LAW OF EVERY SOCIETY OF INDIVIDUALS OF EQUAL RIGHTS; to consider the will of the society enounced by the majority of a single vote as sacred as if unanimous is the first of all lessons in importance, yet the last which is thoroughly learnt .” –Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1817 ME 15:127

“[Bear] always in mind that a nation ceases to be republican only when the will of the majority ceases to be the law” –Thomas Jefferson: Reply to the Citizens of Adams County, Pa, 1808 ME 12:18

“The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object” –Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Waring, 1801 ME 10:236

“The measures of the fair majority ought always to be respected” –Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1792 ME 8:397

“I subscribe to the principle, that the will of the majority honestly expressed should give law” –Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793 ME 1:332

“All being equally free, no one has a right to say what shall be law for the others. Our way is to put these questions to the vote, and to consider that as law for which the majority votes” –Thomas Jefferson: Address to the Cherokee Nation, 1809 ME 16:456

“[We acknowledge] the principle that the majority must give the law” –Thomas Jefferson to William Carmichael, 1788 ME 7:28

“This [is] a country where the will of the majority is the law, and ought to be the law” –Thomas Jefferson: Answers to de Meusnier Questions, 1786 ME 17:85

“Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia QVIII, 1782 ME 2:120

“The fundamental principle of [a common government of associated States] is that the will of the majority is to prevail” –Thomas Jefferson to William Eustis, 1809

“The voice of the majority decides. For the lex majoris partis is the law of all councils, elections, etc, where not otherwise expressly provided” –Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1800 ME 2:420

“It is the multitude which possess force, and wisdom must yield to that” –Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1816 ME 14:492

“The Lex majoris partis, founded in common law as well as common right, [is] the natural law of every assembly of men whose numbers are not fixed by any other law” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia QXIII, 1782 ME 2:172

“Every man, and every body of men on earth, possesses the right of self-government. They receive it with their being from the hand of nature. Individuals exercise it by their single will; collections of men by that of their majority; for the law of the majority is the natural law of every society of men” –Thomas Jefferson: Opinion on Residence Bill, 1790 ME 3:60

 

May 20, 2014

The Teachings

Sarah:

I have always resonated with www.freeread.com since the day I found it, however no matter who I tell or in which way I convey tid bits of knowledge about JJ’s books to….no one I have shown them to in 4.5 years has grabbed hold of it the way I did. I have run the gamut of approaches and I pretty much now am very non-schalant about it and wait for anyone to ask first….but people never do.

Just seems odd, like why do I clearly see these teachings as being so profound….but others I show do not delve into them?

JJ

Yes, this seems odd even for me. It seems that te majority cannot see the difference between mumbo jumbo and teachings that speak to the soul.

I am in good company for DK’s teachings still are not widely read though he is becoming widely recognized. Here is something interesting he said:

Each generation should produce those able to ascertain subjective fact for themselves; they will utilize that which is exoteric and known as stepping stones on the path to perfect knowledge. They will know, and they will give out, and only the next cycle of fifty years after their work is accomplished will see the recognition by the many of the truth revealed by the few. TCF, Page 707

 

May 20, 2014

What or Who is the 144,000 exactly?

JJ quoting DK

Each generation should produce those able to ascertain subjective fact for themselves; they will utilize that which is exoteric and known as stepping stones on the path to perfect knowledge. They will know, and they will give out, and only the next cycle of fifty years after their work is accomplished will see the recognition by the many of the truth revealed by the few. TCF, Page 707

May 20, 2014

Jefferson on “Republic”

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As for an example of the tyranny of the majority goes – I cannot find one example in history. The best example the quoted author comes up with is:

Great Britain, the state of New York enacted harsh measures against Loyalists and British subjects. These included the Confiscation Act (1779), the Citation Act (1782) and the Trespass Act (1783). All involved the taking of property.

In Hamilton’s view, these Acts illustrated the inherent difference between democracy and the law.

JJ

What he forgets to note is is that those acts were not passed by a democratic vote but by Representative governments. Where there is tyranny it is almost always the tyranny of the minority. A majority may get a little out of hand once in a while. For example right after 9/11 the majority wanted revenge any way they could get it but that didn’t last for long. On the other hand, a minority like Castro will suppress his people as long as he has breath.

 

May 21, 2014

Direct Democracy

Duke:

Regarding the National Referendum system embraced in various forms by Switzerland and several other European nations, would it make any sense to draft a proposed Constitutional Amendment?

JJ

Getting a Constitutional Amendment through is extremely difficult. That is why I created a system that would create even more Democracy than Switzerland has with no changes to the Constitution necessary. Once I get the public’s attention through one of my works I will plan on promoting it.

Those who have not read the plan can check it out here.

 

May 21, 2014

 

The Caterpillar Principle

Soryn:

While I advocate for pressure (international applicable regulations) from the international community to regulate the exchange of natural resources and services between poor and rich countries, I am curious to see what is your position on this?

JJ

The articles you referenced point out that the countries who won the lottery of natural resources generally wind up as much poorer than nations that have to rely heavily on the ingenuity to thrive. This if often blamed on the greed of the corporations that supposedly exploit them which silly.

The principle behind this could be called the Caterpillar Principle. The saying goes that a caterpillar needs the struggle of breaking out of its prison cocoon to gain the strength to survive and if you help it that it will die. The same goes with a chicken breaking out of its egg. You could kill it by helping it too much.

The truth of this principle is illustrated not only by nations who win a lottery by discovering oil or some other commodity, but by lottery winners themselves. I have followed the stories of many lottery winners and almost all of them, after a couple years of winning the lottery, curse the day they won for they wind up broke and alienated from all their friends.

What happens is as soon as friends and family discover they won big money they start hitting them up for a piece of the winnings or for a loan or investment that is never paid back. Then as soon as the winner starts running short and cuts off the funds his friends become angry and start hating his guts.

Now what is the core reason that the lottery winner winds up with such a problem? Do we blame it on his greedy friends and family?

As I said, that is silly. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have also encountered a lot of greedy people and they didn’t lose their wealth because of it?

If free stuff is there for the taking then self-serving people will come out of the woodwork. Bill Gates is just smart enough to know how to handle them.

What is the solution to the lottery problem? Should we establish regulations to control how the winner spends his money and how his friends can approach him for loans?

Of course not. That would be interfering with free will. Even though most winners will use bad judgment with their wealth we must let them learn by their own experiences. Believe me, the lottery winner who has lost everything has learned some important initial lessons about human nature and the misuse of money.

Even so goes it with nations that win the lottery. Some may want to exploit them or even help them by getting them to invest in a good cause but the fact that most such nations wind up poor is not their fault. It is the fault of the nation itself just as it is the fault of the lottery winner if he gives away all his winnings or invests the money in some well-meaning scheme.

Just like it is not a good idea to regulate lottery winners and their friends, it is not a good idea to regulate the wealth of a nation or the greed of the people dealing with it. If some entity attempts to take the resources by force then that is another matter.

Just like there are some lottery winners with enough common sense to use their money wisely even so, some oil rich countries do also. Two examples are Qatar and Kuwait.

Japan is an example of a country with few resources that overcame the handicap through their ingenuity and became prosperous. Sixteenth Century Spain is an example of a prosperous country that became poor by discovering or stealing the riches of gold and silver from the New World. As soon as they started relying on all that gold they became lazy and went dramatically downhill economically and as a world power.

Soryn asks me about charities such as such as the Bill Gates’ foundation.

If anyone wants to start a charity or donate money to help the disadvantaged that is fine with me and is usually about 500% better spent than government money which is generally just thrown at problems.

If we really wanted to help the Third World the first thing we would do for them is make sure all people on the planet have clean drinking water. We now have the technology to take clean water right out of the air.

Check this out:

Ruth W:

I can tell you from experience that child labor was a very good thing for me. After the great depression our family struggled to survive. By the time I was 13 I was delighted to get a job on a farm working 10 hour days and feeling happy about it.

JJ

Yes, child labor not taken to excess is a good thing. I did lots of work for money from the time I was four and it was good for my soul and work ethic.

From the ages of 4-13 I did things such as pick fruit, manage lemonade stands, pick up bottles for recycling, sell seeds and cards door to door, thin apples, various orchard work such as dig around trees fertilize and pick up brush, worked in a packing shed, danced for money in bars, and even sold some beer.

I never felt abused in the least and was thrilled to make some money.

To Soryn:

Can you point to one country where the standards of living were made worse by corporations coming in and hiring people?

Look at the two countries where this does not happen at all: Cuba – where they are now having toilet paper shortages and North Korea where the people eat grass to survive.

JJ wrote:

From the ages of 4-13 I did things such as …. danced for money in bars …

Dan:

You’ll have to forgive me if I just not only CANNOT but WILLNOT picture you as a pole dancer 🙂

JJ

I thought that should get a rise from someone out there. Here’s the story. When I was a kid my parents spent most nights out in bars and if they were not home when they said I took my younger sister, walked uptown, and found them in one of the bars. Once there they usually were not in the mood to come home. The patrons would offer me and my sister money to dance for them so we thought, “What the heck?” and did our best. It earned us some money to buy candy.

 

May 22, 2014

Third Question

The Last Question:

Many social programs, such as Obamacare have to be mostly financed, not with taxes, but borrowed money that our children must pay interest on. How urgent must the need be before we borrow more money to help certain citizens? Give examples.

JJ

Good common sense answers on this.

The government borrowing money and accumulating higher and higher interest payments that must be met is much more serious than the average person realizes. Those who do the math realize that if we do not curtail this borrowing the day will come that the amount of the payment will exceed all other spending and lead to insolvency.

And how do you think the Chinese will respond if we tell them, “Sorry. We just don’t have the money to pay you this month or year?”

We shouldn’t be borrowing a dime to expand any social program. The only thing that would justify more borrowing would be a war for self preservation or some type of disaster where people need relief.

Everyone in the group who commented agreed that 50% or more should agree to spending on a good cause if an increase in taxes would result. They were even stricter when the money would be borrowed.

Question:

Either everyone here is an extreme right-winger or we are just smarter than the average voter. Every year we borrow more money, not for emergencies, but to expand government and social programs. Why do people put up with this? Are they mentally challenged, just not paying attention or what? Why can they not do the simple math that would tell them that we will have a day of reckoning if we continue this borrowing madness?

 

May 22, 2014

Correct Translation

Soryn giving a quote:

“I believe that the free enterprise system is the greatest engine of prosperity the world’s ever know, I believe in self reliance and individual initiative but I also believe that everybody should have a fair shot” says Obama.

JJ

You have to translate what Obama says to get the truth because he says what people want to hear instead of giving his true intentions – such as “If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance” a total lie.

Translation:

“You’ve had your free enterprise and used initiative and self reliance in the past and this has resulted in an unfair division of the rich and poor which I will correct with a master plan of forced redistribution.”

Soryn:

Forced redistribution is currently a reality. People pay taxes and the money is redistributed by the government.

JJ

If the taxes due are a fair amount that the taxpayers support and those who contribute actually get benefits in return then it is not considered forced redistribution. It is considered forced redistribution when those who have worked hard for their money are ordered to pay more than they consider fair.

This has happened with Obamacare. Here is an example from a letter published in my local paper this morning:

“Liberals lied about Obamacare, saying that we could keep our plans and doctors. Liberals told us our premiums would be $2,500 less. My premiums have risen 400 percent so I can pay for liberal freeloaders.”

You can’t blame this guy for feeling he was not treated fairly.

Soryn:

Not trying to defend Obamacare or anything, we can read the following on the official site:

“ObamaCare’s cost is estimated at up to net cost of $1.36 trillion dollars by 2023.”

“Obamacare is projected to cut the national deficit by over $200 billion during its first 10 years and over $1 trillion over the next two decades. This helps offset the up-front cost of ObamaCare.”

So it seems like in the short-term it creates a great deficit, but in the long run it brings a benefit.

JJ

Wow.. I am amazed at the depth of your self-deception if you believe that propaganda from Obama sites. The costs estimated by those who actually do the math are to be three times as much as this estimate and I’d be willing to bet that is a low figure. If you think Obamacare will reduce the deficit then I have a great bridge I’ll sell you cheap.

Every cost estimate the government gives us on a social program is always way way off. Medicare costs more than ten times the estimated amount.

If you want to know Obama’s thinking look at his past and his actions rather than his words. Take a look.

LINK

 

May 23, 2014

Ratio of Men to Women among spiritual seekers

Larry W

If you go among any Church or spiritual seekers, this is the trend. I mentioned this recently when I attended an esoteric group of seekers in Oklahoma City. 40 women, four men. So tonight I got the idea to go look at pics from Keysters. Every year we pose outside a restaurant or someplace or two for group pics. You don’t always get ALL attendees in such pics, but it gives you a pretty good idea who attended. I looked at several group pics from KOK (Keys of Knowledge) Gatherings. In each one I count equal number of men and of women. Interesting.

What does that imply? I don’t know. But it shows SOMETHING is different about the Keysters compared to most other seeker groups.

JJ

Interesting point Larry. I have heard a number of comments over the years about the fact that we seem to draw an even number of male and females at various meetings whereas other spiritual groups, especially new age and metaphysical ones draw mostly females.

In each gathering we have had we always do something in a circle where we arrange them male/female and in each gsathering they have been very close to even. This also happens in various classes I give.

I think the reason I draw a fairly even number is that I am one of the few spiritual teachers who puts emphasis on logic that appeals to males as well as the mystical which appeals to the female side.

Ruth:

Don’t forget that the Keysters also include all those members who do not attend the mini gathering every year, so the ratio of men and women might be a bit different to just a group picture of a few of the members.

JJ

Good point. It is interesting that even a greater percentage of the Keys are male than happens at the gatherings – at least among those who participate. This is also highly unusual amoung spiritual metaphysical or New Age groups.

LWK

If and when government forces higher wages than are economically justified the end result is always fewer jobs, and/or higher prices for goods.

JJ

Good point Larry. Switzerland is one of the few countries that refuses to pass a minimum wage and the average wage there is $37/hr. and unemployment is about 3%. Few people make less than $20/hr.

The Left does not seem to realize that reality is not what they feel but what actually happens.

Larry W

I find myself extremely tempted right now to come up with The Pole Dancer Principle.

JJ

Actually the pole dancing idea came entirely from Dan’s fertile imagination. When my sister and I danced for the drunken crowd we kind of copied what we had seen in the movies which was a little swing type stuff. We made it up as we went. Sometimes I also got free beer out of the deal. It was a lot different world back then.

 

May 23, 2014

Question Four

It is interesting to contemplate the difference between the political Left and Right. The Right just cannot understand why the Left cannot add 2+2 and support a balanced budget and the Left see the Right as heartless beasts who refuse to help the poor and disadvantaged.

Question: What is the real difference between the two sides and why do they not understand each other – or do they?

 

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