The Pope and the People

This entry is part 23 of 73 in the series 2015

Sept 29, 2015

The Pope and the People

I’ve noted that there is a danger of a spiritual leader with much power attempting to influence the political direction of this country. This should be a concern, whether we agree with his views or not. If one agrees with the Pope he is likely to think, “Great, my political views are getting a shot in the arm!”

That may seem well and good at the time, but then after this protocol is established the next Pope may attempt to push some quite different and alarming views.

It wouldn’t be too troubling if the Pope wasn’t using the power of his great authority with the people to push his political agenda. If he is going to jump into the political fray then he should make it clear that he is speaking as an individual and not on behalf of Christ. He should make it clear that there is no risk for a member’s salvation to disagree with him on politics.

As it is, some are going along with his political views just to make sure God won’t be frowning on them when their souls are taken.

It is interesting to watch the power of authority at work. When a person gives to a fellow human some or all the authority that should only be given to the inner Voice, the impact of their words are greatly amplified. The power of glamour makes the ordinary seem extraordinary.

I noticed this with the Mormon prophet and other church authorities when I was a member decades ago. Even though I supported the church at that time I was repulsed by how the members seemed tremendously more impressed with the words of the authorities than should have been the case.

It has always been my approach to judge the greatness of words by the words themselves, not by who said them. Outer authority does not create greatness in words. Instead, it is intelligence and spirit in the words that gives them their value and impact.

Consider this, one of my favorite quotes:

Be like the bird who, pausing in her flight

Awhile on boughs too slight,

Feels them give way beneath her,

And yet sings, knowing she hath wings.

A thought expressed so eloquently needs no authority to give it value. It carries an inspiring living thought no matter who originated it. In this case it was Victor Hugo.

I remember when I was in the church – that faithful members looked forward to hearing the prophet speak in conference in the hope that some new revelation, teaching or profound thought would be expressed.

Instead of some new deep thought we heard repetition of what was said before – things like.

Keep the commandments

Read the scriptures.

Obey the Sabbath

Pay your tithing

Attend church

Support the church authorities.

Then came a time that the prophet at the time (Spencer W. Kimball) said something new. He boldly told the members to clean up their homes and make them more presentable, specifically telling members to paint their houses and groom their yards.

That is probably good general advice, but what amazed me was that many members took this for a great revelation.

On the other hand, if your next door neighbor told these same members to clean up their homes and yards they would not see such advice as profound at all. They’d be inclined to tell the guy to mind his own business.

I see the same thing happening with the Pope as I did the Mormon prophet. He gives us advice that one could easily find in Joe’s Bar and Grill, but because he supposedly speaks for Jesus his words are seen as much more profound than the same thing said by your friends at the bar or over dinner.

Here I paraphrased several things that were seen as so profound that they made John Boehner and others weep.

We shouldn’t pollute and work to keep the earth in a healthy condition.

Well, yeah… we all believe that. How to accomplish such a thing without creating tyranny is an idea where some profoundness could enter in.

Seek unity, not division.

Good advice you could also get at Joe’s Bar and Grill, but what specific steps are we to take?

Well he does say this:

“We must move forward together, as one, in a renewed spirit of fraternity and solidarity, cooperating generously for the common good.”

I don’t think anyone would disagree with that feel-good statement as an ideal goal that we all have but does not materialize.

Be accepting of immigrants.
The Pope is preaching to the choir here as almost all of us are very accepting of immigrants. He didn’t say anything about accepting those who break our laws and are here, but have not immigrated.

Love your neighbor.

Good plan, but we have heard this before.

Fight poverty and share your wealth.

You can hear a sermon on this in most any church.

Families and family life are good to have.

I think we are all on board with this thought.

Lots of bad guys misuse wealth and power. This must stop.

Yeah, we’ve heard this before many times, but how is it to be achieved?

So, it is interesting that a powerful authority does not have to say anything that profound or new, but if he presents it with the aura that God is speaking through him then true believers will provide their own embellishment.

So, what do I think of pope Francis? Is he a good guy or bad guy?

I see him as a man who is further along on the path than other Popes in my lifetime, except for John Paul I, who I believe was poisoned after only 33 days in office.

Pope Francis is a man of strong personal discipline, strong beliefs and strong adherence to what he sees as the right path. He is making some changes of direction which shows he has some power to initiate

He strongly identifies with people in need and wants to help them. His intentions are good and he is doing his best to make a difference in a positive way.

BUT… Good intentions does not make a person correct. Chamberlain was a decent fellow who did his best in negotiating with Hitler. After he secured an agreement that seemed to secure “peace in our time” they held a ticker tape parade for him and the media praised him more than they currently are the Pope. Then, just a short time later, after Hitler invaded Poland, his judgment was seen as the greatest folly of the age.

Just because the Pope is a spiritual leader and reaffirms the pleasant platitudes of the past and admonishes us to attain the goals set by religion does not mean that we should shut down our minds and not critically examine what he says.

Few leaders in history have mastered illusion and until this is mastered the best of intentions can take us toward disaster instead of the Promised Land. Even after illusion is dispelled the person is still fallible, for none of us have perfect judgment. We always need to use our own minds in discerning whether a thing is true, or the best course of action.

So what is he doing that is right or wrong in my judgment?

As far as his spiritual calling goes he is doing a good job. He is relaxing the discipline on the outdated doctrines of the church on birth control, divorce and the attitudes of exclusion of the past. He’s emphasizing tolerance and forgiveness, even for those who have had abortions. All this is good and may result in a permanent positive advance for the church.

On the other hand, it appears that his political views, if established, could do a lot more harm than good as they seem to have a lot of illusion in them. Why do I say this?

Let us just look at his full endorsement of the orthodox global warming approach. If he had mastered illusion he would have not made a judgment on the matter unless he had investigated both sides of the issue and it is pretty obvious he has not. He’s just tuned into what appears to be the majority view of the authorities and goes with it.

Unfortunately, this is how most people decide what they will support. They will listen to the authorities “on their side” and just go with that, ignoring the key of Judgment.

Should the Pope not have political views then?

We all have political views and should have the freedom to express them. The trouble is that when someone who is seen as speaking for God, such as the Pope, the Mormon prophet or the Ayatollah Ali Khamene, then the power of his words take on other worldly influence that can lead to undue influence in a wrong direction.

The safe route is for all of us, no matter how inspired we think we are, to express our political views as coming from our own minds and judgment and that the listeners are free to take or leave what we say.

Actually, this should also be our approach in spiritual teachings as well, as all of us are fallible and all of us have the power to check the truth of matters with the Spirit of God within us.

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 20

This entry is part 22 of 73 in the series 2015

Sept 11, 2015

Raising the Bar

We have been discussing whether or not Islam was initiated by the forces of dark or light. When you look at the warlike nature of some Moslem groups and their justification of aggression from scripture then I cannot blame anyone for thinking that the religion was created to be an agent of the dark forces.

What is not realized by many is that all religions and almost all groups and people are under the control of the Beast and the antichrist forces. It is written:

“And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Rev 13:8

There are only a handful who see what the beast is and how to deal with its power. The rest are under its control whether they be Christian, Buddhist, Muslim or Hindu.

It has been a tough job for the forces of light working with humanity since the rise of our civilization. They have known that whatever movement they have a hand in creating will be corrupted and made use of from time to time by dark forces. It matters not how pure and harmless the original teachings are. We all know how past Christian leaders have twisted the words of Jesus and the prophets and used them to torture heretics and burn them at the stake.

Unfortunately, the heretics were the ones closest to escaping the power of the beast, who does not want to be challenged or ignored.

All the major religions which have endured have been started or in some way inspired by the Brotherhood of Light. One of the main differences between the two brotherhoods is that those on the side of light can create works that will endure manifestation for all to see whereas the dark brothers generally are not able to accomplish this.

Why?

Because when a work from the dark side is openly revealed the people will reject it, but when a work of light is examined the people will embrace it.

The work of darkness only benefits the few at the top of the food chain and when this is seen, the people as a whole will not accept it. Therefore, the plan of attack for the dark brothers is to take an existing work, with attractive ideas for the many, take it over and secretly steer it toward the goal of benefiting the few at the expense of the many.

While it is true that Islam is much more materialistic than Christianity or the Eastern religions, it is not that far off from the materialism of the Old Testament times. It was adjusted to the consciousness of the people at the time and place it was created and if there had not been a Mohammed then another would have come along with something similar.

Why?

Because the consciousness of many people demanded a religion like this. Rather than let a truly corrupt person take advantage of them the Brotherhood worked with the disciple Mohammed in an attempt to create the lesser of the evils which would manifest. Despite his flaws, without Mohammed, Islam would have been much more harmful to the history of the world than has been the case.

This circumstance has been the case with the creation of all religions. None of them have been close to the religion the Brotherhood of Light would create for themselves if they were here as a group. Each religion created has to be adapted to the consciousness of the people who will be practicing it. The fact that there are a billion and a half members tells us that indeed there is a large pocket of humanity who desire such a materialistic religion and if Islam were not available something else more harmful would be.

We all know that an important goal of the Brotherhood of Light is to present the good, the beautiful and the true and draw mankind in this direction. But they have another important goal that is rarely mentioned, which is to raise the bar on what humanity sees as evil.

That which is seen as being good and evil changes with the centuries. A short time ago the evil which concerned many seekers was human slavery. After much struggle and pain, human slavery was basically eliminated in civilized nations. This great evil was then replaced by lesser evils such as:

Violations of civil rights and excessive taxation and regulations.

Such things are a much lesser evil than physical human slavery where one person owns another like they would a piece of property.

Now the forces of darkness would like to return to the standard of past evils, but, fortunately, the power of dominating good ever moves us forward. True, there are steps backward at times, but overall the power of good dominates because intelligence dominates over chaos.

The evils in the forces of Nazism were somewhat diffused when Hitler was defeated and the evils that have surfaced in radical Islam will also be diffused when they are defeated. When this happens then the evil that we see in Islam will be moved up a measure or two so it become less harmful.

This happened to Christianity. In the Middle Ages the religion was so intolerant that they severely persecuted heretics. Now the bar of evil within this religion has been raised. We still see problems, but they are much more tolerant in this age and that which is evil in the religion is not so bad as in the past.

Seekers indeed look forward to the coming new age when good and evil will be moved up a notch. It will be interesting to see where things level off to in the next couple hundred years.

Judaism is old, obsolete and separative and has no true message for the spiritually-minded which cannot be better given by the newer faiths; the Moslem faith has served its purpose and all true Moslems await the coming of the Imam Mahdi who will lead them to light and to spiritual victory; the Christian faith also has served its purpose; its Founder seeks to bring a new Gospel and a new message that will enlighten all men everywhere. Therefore, Jerusalem stands for nothing of importance today, except for that which has passed away and should pass away. The “Holy Land” is no longer holy, but is desecrated by selfish interests, and by a basically separative and conquering nation.

Rays and Initiations, Page 734

 

Sept 13, 2015

DK on Islam

I knew I had read about the link of Jesus to Islam in the Bailey writings but had a very difficult time in finding it. The reason is that AAB used an odd spelling of Mohammed and spelled it as Mahomet.

Here is the Quote:

Teaching upon the new world religion, with its emphasis upon the three major Full Moon periods (Aries, Taurus, Gemini, falling usually in April, May and June respectively) and the nine (occasionally ten) minor Full Moons each year. This leads to a consequent relation being established between the work of the Christ and of the Buddha in the minds of spiritually inclined people everywhere, with the result of a great broadening of the human aspiration. This work is as yet embryonic, but it should receive increasing attention. Eventually it will demonstrate as the main linking unit between the East and the West, particularly if Shri Krishna is shown to be an earlier incarnation of the Lord of Love, the Christ. Thereby three major world religions the Christian, the Hindu and the Buddhist will be intimately related, whilst the Mahommedan faith will be found to be linked to the Christian faith because it embodies the work of the Master Jesus as He overshadowed one of His senior disciples, a very advanced initiate, Mahomet.

Rays and Initiations, Page 254

 

Sept 14, 2015

Discernment

In this discussion of Islam we have many points where there is group agreement, but only one where there is some disagreement.

Here are points where I believe we are at agreement.

(1) The teachings given out through Christ via Jesus are of a much higher quality and closer to spirit than those given through Mohammed.

(2) The teachings of Islam are more centered on this world, more materialistic and easier to interpret as approving aggression.

(3) Whereas a theme for Christian behavior was “turn the other check” the theme of Islam was to meet force with greater force.

(4) The Jews had been nurtured by many centuries of teachings by the prophets whereas the tribes of the Middle East lagged behind in spiritual thinking and had little religious structure.

(5) Authoritarian and designing caretakers of both religions used their scriptures as an excuse for control and aggression.

(6) Christianity still has its flaws but has mellowed out and generally is not a threat of terror or to world peace. On the other hand, an alarming number of Muslims support aggression and suppression which creates a threat to world stability.

The one point of disagreement is whether Mohammed was originally inspired by the light or the dark side.

Just using reasoning alone, arguments can be made in either direction. One can argue that the emphasis of the Islamic scriptures through Mohammed focused more on materialism and aggression, but they were in many situations where they had to fight for their survival as did ancient Israel when they went to war. In such a situation one may assume that revelations would direct them toward survival and success.

I think we can agree that the emphasis on what is revealed to different peoples of differing consciousness will not be the same, but may differ significantly.

What is much more important than who initiated the foundation of Islam is the correct discernment of good and evil as we face it today. Ancient teachings could have easily been twisted and corrupted, but today we read and hear many actual words coming from the minds of those who seek to control or destroy us. We only have ourselves to blame if we do not accurately see the threats that lie before us.

If it fits in a frame, it’s not the big picture.

The Covert Comic

 

Sept 15, 2015

Mohammed & Washington

JJ

“One can argue that the emphasis of the Islamic scriptures through Mohammed focused more on materialism and aggression, but they were in many situations where they had to fight for their survival as did ancient Israel when they went to war.”

lwk

After Mohammed was run out of Mecca his “fight for … survival” largely consisted of raiding Meccan caravans for loot, not protection.

“The Caravan raids refer to a series of raids in which the Islamic prophet and his companions participated. The raids were generally offensive[1] and carried out to gather intelligence or seize the trade goods of caravans financed by the Quraysh. The raids were intended to weaken the economic and in turn the offensive capabilities of Mecca by Muhammad.”

LINK

JJ

You left out the reason for the raids., Just below your quote it reads:

Muhammad’s followers suffered from poverty after fleeing persecution in Mecca and migrating with Muhammad to Medina. Their Meccan persecutors seized their wealth and belongings left behind in Mecca.

Now substitute George Washington For Mohammed and see the British in place of the Meccans and Washington’s Gorilla tactics in place of Mohammed’s raids and we have an interesting correspondence.

 

Sept 16, 2015

lwk

Washington was fighting against British occupation and to secure freedom from Britain. When that was accomplished he didn’t invade Britain or France, or S. America.

Mohammed may claim they were just trying to get back some things they lost when forced to leave Mecca, but in fact they never stopped the looting, ever. There was never enough loot for them as long as they could find someone to conquer. This was true during Mohammed’s life, and afterwards (with millions killed in the conquest of India alone).

JJ

Mohammed and his followers were never in the fairly secure position comparable to the Founding Fathers after independence was secured. During his lifetime they consistently faced threats, often from numbers greatly exceeding their own. They felt they had to take aggressive measures to survive. During times where a people are struggling to survive many acts will be committed by even the good guys that look bad on hindsight.

For instance, during World War II the obvious good guys were the Allies but they also committed many acts that would be war crimes by today’s standards. Here is a link that lists many of them. 

This is to be expected in a fight for survival. “All’s fair in love and war is indeed a truism.”

All may seem fair but all may not be right on hindsight.

The fact that the Allies committed some atrocities does not make them the bad guy in the overall picture.

The major problem I see with Islam is that after their survival was secured (after Mohammed’s death) that they continued to fight with the same mindset. That would be like Jefferson deciding that many nations still needed to be fought against as if they were the invading British using the same playbook as did Washington at war.

Using this mindset, Islam made many aggressive moves that resulted in much pain and sorrow. The invasion and destruction of India was a sad story indeed.

Unfortunately, this aggressive mindset still exists with many Moslems today and presents a great threat to world peace. Their religion needs to be invaded with light and truth, which would be a higher turn of the spiral of physical aggression coming back to them.

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Analyzing the Quran

lwk points out these disturbing scriptures from the Quran (I guess I’ll update my spelling).

From the Quran:

Qur’an (6:93) – “Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah?” If the death penalty is prescribed for lesser crime, then it stands to reason that it should be imposed for the most “wicked”.

JJ

I checked out this verse in a half dozen translations and they all give an entirely different slant. Here is the commonly accepted meaning which has nothing to do with the death penalty but the fate that liars meet at their death.

6:93 And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah, or says: It has been revealed to me; while nothing has been revealed to him, and he who says: I can reveal the like of what Allah has revealed? and if you had seen when the unjust shall be in the agonies of death and the angels shall spread forth their hands: Give up your souls; today shall you be recompensed with an ignominious chastisement because you spoke against Allah other than the truth and (because) you showed pride against His communications. Shakir Translation

Jesus gave an equally disturbing warning:

Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matt 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Next quote:

Qur’an (33:57) – “Lo! those who malign Allah and His messenger, Allah hath cursed them in this world and the Hereafter, and hath prepared for them the doom of the disdained”

Qur’an (33:61) – [continues from above] “Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.”

Commentators see this scripture in its full context dealing with internal rebellion and traitors more than being directed to going after outsiders. In a time of war the issue of internal threats is often the greatest problem to be dealt with.

George Washington had hundreds of traitorous associates put to death to insure internal cohesion. If he had not done this he would have probably lost the war.

It is interesting that the next verse of this scripture justifies the death penalty by referencing Old Testament practices.

33:62 (Such has been) the course of Allah with respect to those (Old Testament prophets) who have gone before; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah.

And what similar thing is written on the Old Testament?

“Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.” Leviticus 24:16

This scripture sounds more ominous than the Quran and it specifies that outsiders are subject to the death penalty for merely disrespecting their God.

The fact that draconian measures were used to insure the survival of early Israel and Islam does not mean that they were motivated by the dark side. We have to examine any religion as it applies to the time and the people where the words were given. The question to be asked is whether the entirety of the scripture had the intent of lifting the people as a whole to a higher level than before.

The question not to be asked is whether the generations following the initiator corrupted the teachings. As a general rule the words of initiators are corrupted later on and used to control the people with dread and fear.

When the corruption becomes obviously harmful and then contrasted with other enlightened teachings reform eventually comes. This reform happened with Christianity and hopefully it will come sooner rather than later with Islam.

 

Sept 17, 2015

Different Times

lwk

Part of the problem as I see it is that JJ has accepted the AAB/DK writings as a trusted authority and to find significant flaws would undercut the edifice of that authority.

JJ

I do not trust any teacher 100%. DK is an earned authority with me because they reflect many things I have verified in my life and many others speak to my soul, mind and common sense.

There are maybe three things in his writings that I disagree with and a half dozen that are questionable.

You brought up a questionable one which is the existence of Vulcan which is supposed to be within the orbit of Mercury. It is obvious now that there is no physical planet such as Vulcan, but there are two other possibilities that would still make DK correct.

First he said there where five etheric planets in our solar system that are not visible to physical eyes. Vulcan could be one of these.

Secondly he said that Vulcan was “the sun, exoterically considered” Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Page 369

If we take this literally then when he speaks of Vulcan he is really speaking of the Sun and there is no doubt the Sun is there.

As far as Mohammed being originally inspired by the light I believed this before I read the Alice A. Bailey material. I hadn’t considered that it was Jesus who worked through him, but the idea was in harmony with what I already believed so I didn’t have a problem with it.

That certainly doesn’t mean that modern Islam is the light of the world. As DK said it has served its purpose. I now see the radical elements of Islam as the focus of evil in the world and the greatest threat we face. North Korea is included with this. Though they are different in religion they are similar in totalitarian thinking and are willing to cooperate.

I do not have any more problem considering that the Quran was inspired by the brotherhood any more than the laws of Moses. Both of them support aggressive war and have draconian punishments, but that was for a different people, a different time and different consciousness.

JJ (previous quote)

I checked out this verse in a half dozen translations and they all give an entirely different slant.”

lwk

That is indeed an issue. I have seen the same thing – you can get ridiculously different interpretations sometimes.

JJ

What I meant to imply was that the half dozen different translations were all in harmony with the one I quoted but all gave a different slant to the one you quoted. I could not find your quoted translation anywhere.

You are right though that sometimes a single verse will be translated with a number of different slants.

 

Sept 18, 2015

Examining the Bailey Writings

lwk wants to know where I may disagree with DK. Ordinarily, I find very little with which I can disagree as I discover more light in the Bailey teachings than any other writing. Most disagreements would be on what he may emphasize rather than a black and white rejection.

Here is one thing he stated about auras that didn’t seem quite right to me.

Now he (the disciple) is admitted to the secret place to be found at the very heart of the Ashram and becomes a chela within the aura.

The aura of any form of life can be defined as the quality of a sphere of radiatory activity. Very little is as yet known about auras, and a great deal of nonsense has been written anent the matter. The aura is usually spoken of in terms of colour and of light, due to the nature of the vision of the one who sees and the apparatus of response which is in use. Two words only describe an aura from the point of view of occult knowledge and they are “quality” and “sphere of influence.” What the clairvoyant really contacts is an impression which the mind rapidly translates into the symbology of colour, whereas there is no colour present. Seeing an aura, as it is called, is in reality a state of awareness. That the seer may in all sincerity believe that he has registered a colour, a series of colours, or light, is entirely true in many cases, but what he has really recorded is the quality of a sphere of radiatory activity; this he does when his own individual sphere of radiatory activity is of the same nature and quality as that contacted. Most seers register the astral range of vibrations of a person or a group and this through the medium of their own astral body. The impact of a truth or of a mental concept and its recognition is an expression of a similar contact, carried forward this time into the realm of the mind.

Discipleship in the New Age, Page 752

He is correct here as he seems to be defining the aura which he says is “the quality of a sphere of radiatory activity.” As he uses the term here and in other parts of his writing he is referring to the interplay of a person’s whole being with other lives. For instance, I may pick up vibrations from someone thousands of miles away. This can happen because souls are linked with all other souls. Because energy follows thought two entities can establish an interplay of energy with the intermingling of their thought and feeling. They could be said to be within each other’s aura as the Tibetan uses the term here.

The aura, in this sense as well as group auras, are indeed colorless and any color seen here would involve some mental interpretation. I’ve also met a number of psychics who claim to see auras who I believe do not see them but do merely give filtered impressions through their astral body as he says.

In my younger years I seriously studied the teachings of Lobsang Rampa, another controversial writer. He taught quite a bit about the human aura that it is possible to see in color and gave instructions on how to see it. I followed his directions and after a period of time gained the ability to see the aura and its colors. After considerable practice I got pretty good at seeing the colors.

I eventually lost interest in keeping up the practice as I found I could intuitively pick up what was radiating from others. Even so, I still pick up some auric light now and then.

DK here says that when one sees color in an aura “what he has really recorded is the quality of a sphere of radiatory activity; this he does when his own individual sphere of radiatory activity is of the same nature and quality as that contacted.”

I think this happens with many psychics, but I wouldn’t say this is the case with me. I have seen many auras that are not merely a radiation from my own self.

Here is an example. When I was with my first wife I noticed a new sweater hanging in the bathroom that she had apparently just bought. As I looked at it I saw a bright red aura radiating from it that looked nothing like my wife’s. I then asked her from where she got the sweater. She said that she bought it from a used clothing store.

This made sense to me as our clothing tends to keep our auric light for a period of time and that strange aura belonged to a previous owner.

Now if I were just seeing the residual aura on the sweater through the filters of my own self then I should have seen my own colors or that of my wife, for I did not know at the time the sweater had a previous owner.

The colors I have seen in auras are as real, or moreso, than the colors we see about us every day. Now if DK were to say that all color we see is caused by filters in our own mind then this interpretation of auric colors would make sense.

Now it is possible that the auras I have seen are colorless from the vision of the soul and my mind just translated the vibration of the aura into color. After all, our eyes and brain do a similar thing with color and light.

Most of my other disagreements are on points of emphasis, some of which we have discussed before. He places too much emphasis on the problems of capitalism as well as the virtues of socialistic sharing. I can see his points, but it sometimes sounds like he could use a life or two as a business person in the current world to sharpen his outlook.

 

Sept 21, 2015

Questions on Evolution

I haven’t given the group an assignment for a while. Let us see what the group comes up with on the next principle, which is evolution.

Questions.

How would you define the Principle of Evolution?

Evolution is seen by many as disproving the existence if God. Why is this incorrect? How does it instead prove God’s existence?

Give three examples of evolution and what causes it to happen in each example.

 

Sept 23, 2015

Comments on Evolution:

Thanks for answering the questions about the mysteries of evolution. There were some very intelligent comments that deserve to go in the archives. Below is a summary. I’ll post my article on the subject shortly.

How would you define the Principle of Evolution?

Johann

A process of continuous change from a lower, simpler, or worse to a higher, more complex, or better state through the intelligent application of energy and a process of slow change and development directed by intelligence.

Ruth:

The expansion of consciousness and refinement of vibration, through applied Intelligence. Evolution is the force of inertia which pushes or propels against the molecular structure, which produces growth through resistance or wear and tear.

Robert gave a summary view.

All change is positive when you learn the lesson from it. We are making all the changes to do so in order to get to the point where we realize there are no changes or bodies. The Holy Spirit is what gives us the lessons and the answers.

Adam:

The application of intelligence to create and organize increasingly complex forms and systems toward increasing harmony and unity, which manifests ‘greater freedom, livingness, intelligence, light, and love’ of the individual parts and the whole.

Johann:

This proves that existence of God in that way that there has to be energy directed by intelligence or this all was created by monkeys that did not have a clue or how to evaluate the results of change or in what direction to go when things went wrong other than that that they add more gibberish.

Ruth:

Nothing can exist or evolve, without the existence of a higher Intelligence. Evolution proves that God or a Higher Intelligence exists, because of the appearance of form or matter, and because of consciousness.

Adam:

Organization that evolves toward higher form and purpose is its own proof of higher intelligence in a system that is becoming greater than it’s evolving parts.

If it is true that nothing can come from nothing, then the manifestation of intelligence in form, evolving toward increasingly organized forms and systems, is proof that intelligence came from Something, intelligently applied.

Give three examples of evolution and what causes it to happen in each example.

Johann:

What causes it to happen is adaptation? The environment adapts to the evolving phenomena in question and vice versa.

Here is a link to 8 examples.

http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/

Ruth:

  1. Evolution of a crystal…….(mineral body)……intelligence applied to the base molecular structure within form.
  2. Evolution of a butterfly…..(animal body)……..intelligence applied to the basic molecular structure within form.
  3. Evolution of a human…..(physical/soul body)……….intelligence applied to the midway point of molecular structure within form.

Adam:

Yellow bellied, three toed skink lizard going from egg-laying to live birth. The theory is that egg layers continue along warmer shorelines, which has a suitable habitat and climate. The more inland and elevated skinks have adapted to live birth in order to better incubate and facilitate the offspring in a colder, harsher environment. In short, the skink needed a “better” way of ensuring survival in diverse and increasingly complex climates and environments.

Evolution of humans from tribal living to kingdom-states. Tribal living became limited in its ability to create greater livingness and freedom of the whole, so it expanded beyond its prior limits. Kingdom states gathered tribes and united different cultures that had specialized knowledge and technology. That ensured greater survival of the whole while expanding knowledge and lifestyle to some degree – how to grow a better garden, kill an animal, defend against invaders, build a better house, etc. Greater livingness for more parts in a gathered state.

Evolution of human consciousness – live and let live attitude. More focused on the things that make us human rather than our differences – race, sex, belief, ideology, education, social status, etc. Evolution resulted from education, social integration, economics, etc, but largely is the result of having lived many lifetimes in different situations. The soul itself is driven toward more unity and tolerance because of long experience that has figured out what doesn’t work well long-term, versus what works best to bring greater livingness.

Dan gave a good summary of the principle related to intelligence:

Without answering your questions in detail 🙂 the only major discrepancy I have with the generally accepted scientific view is that “science” avoids the question of intelligence (tendency toward order, organization, symmetry, coherence, etc) – attempting to explain away the “magic” of evolution through equally magical, but perhaps more mundane-seeming (but not, Not, NOT!) words/phrases such as: “random processes”, “complexity”, “self-organization”, and “emergence”.

Show me a “process” that is truly (proveably) random or a self-organizing complexity and I will . . . eat my hat.

Simply ask yourself how two hydrogens and an oxygen can come together to create an entirely NEW, uncharacteristic entity (water)!

We can either ignore that MAGIC and pretend it is mundane, ho hum, old hat, and “thats just chemistry” or recognize and admit there is an elemental involved that science has not yet (well) accounted for – an underlying tendency of matter to cohere and organize (intelligence) – except to make it SEEM mundane by making up esoteric labels that do NOTHING to define, describe or explain it, such as: “emergent properties”.

 

Sept 25, 2015

Church and State

On Thursday (Sept 24, 2015) Pope Francis gave an address in the White House and then to Congress. Friday he will address the UN.

He is the first Pope, and I believe the first leader of a church, to address Congress, ever.

A question that I haven’t seen asked by anyone on either side of the political equation is this:

Why are there no demands for separation of church and state as there usually is when there are impositions much milder than the Pope addressing Congress?

There have been protests, complaints and even lawsuits over religious encroachments which have taken place routinely since the founding of this country such as:

The Ten Commandments on display on public property.

The mention of God or prayer in any school or public function.

Kids taking religious symbols or the Bible to school.

A government worker having a Bible laying on his desk.

Public employees discussing religion during breaks or lunch.

Religious symbols in public view. For instance, in Boise, where I live, there is a large cross erected in the 1950s on private land on a hill overlooking the city. There have been many complaints, as well as lawsuits, attempting to have it removed. Similar efforts are being made in other cities with similar crosses.

The political left has incessantly complained about the more conservative churches and leaders having too much political clout and access.

Ironically these same people are now cheering on a controversial Pope to preach to them in the White House, the halls of Congress and the U.N. – and give him numerous standing ovations.

Why the big change in attitude here?

The answer is quite simple. The Left sees him as one of their own who supports important items on their agenda.

Do you think the Pope would be invited to lecture Congress if he wasn’t expected to endorse essential political ingredients of the Left? I don’t think so.

What if, instead of supporting the leftist agenda, he lectured against abortion, standard immorality and in support of standard marriage and honoring the laws of the land on immigration?

Even if the Republicans, who are in the majority, supported a visit, the left with their friends in the media would wage such protest that an address to Congress would be impossible.

Now that this crucial barrier between church and state has been broken what next? Are we going to invite Pat Robertson, the Mormon prophet and Islamic leaders to lecture to us about what we need to do to correct the wrongs of this country?

The wisest course of action is to not start this process to begin with. The Pope and other religious leaders can get all the Facebook likes they need through regular media sources. The Pope could have rented a stadium and still gotten plenty of media coverage to reach those who wish to hear and see him. He doesn’t need the U.S. President and Congress to help him out.

To add insult to injury the chastisements from the Pope are largely directed, not to all, but to the political right.

He was very nebulous on standard Christian values, but specific on issues supporting the Left such as.

Socialistic sharing, evidently under the control of the modern Caesar.

Support of the orthodox view of man made climate change. It is obvious he has not studied both sides of the issue and has bought into sound bytes that seem alarming.

Those on the left have already shot their goals in the foot by stopping nuclear energy in its tracks, which has reduced CO2 emissions much more than any other source. If they have their way they will not only have negligible positive effect on the climate, at great cost, but cause an increase of poverty throughout the world.

The best thing to do to reduce CO2 is to provide an atmosphere for a good economy so clean energy technology can continue to develop.

Another main specific item he lectured us on was the taking in of immigrants and refugees. He speaks to us with great condescension, as if we are the anti immigration center of the world. The truth is that the United States has taken in more immigrants than any other nation in the world. Instead, he advocates for a violation of our laws and basically open our borders to all.

This idea goes against the principle taught by Jesus in the parable of the Ten Virgins. There were five wise who gathered oil for their lamps and five foolish that did not. When the time came that the oil was needed the five foolish asked the others to share their oil.

They refused.

Why?

Because if they did then none would have enough.

This principle should apply to immigration. It is fine to share the abundance of our country to a degree, but if it comes to the point where the sharing is so great that none have enough then such thinking runs contrary to the wisdom expressed by Jesus.

The solution to the refugee problem is not so simple as to just send them to the Western nations. Even though almost all of them are Moslems, the Moslem countries are not taking them in.

Saudi Arabia has 100,000 air conditioned tents all set up, but going unused that could be offered, but they are not accepting any refugees. They have, however, offered to build Mosques all over Europe for them once they get settled.

One goal seems to be to get as many Islamic believers as possible settled in the West so they can eventually take over by shear strength of numbers.

The solution to the refugee problem is to secure a piece of land and settle them on it. Some could then apply for legal immigration to various countries. After all, they may be able to return later when the political situation stabilizes.

Next he lectures us on the death penalty, advocating for its abolishment. This is a political view of the left and runs contrary to the scripture he claims to support.

Have you noticed that the more a people lean toward atheism the more they are against a justified death penalty?

Why is this?

Because if this life is all there is, one clings to it more desperately and has no faith that death will place you in the hands of a just God who knows how to place you in situations of intelligent reform, much better than a life in prison.

Overall the political solutions offered by this Pope are feel good proposals rather than actions that will actually be good.

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Pope’s Comments

Like I said I think he was very nebulous in his support of conservative issues, but specific on liberal ones.

For instance on marriage he said, as you noted:

“I will also travel to Philadelphia for the Eighth World Meeting of Families, to celebrate and support the institutions of marriage and the family at this, a critical moment in the history of our civilization.”

This was quite nebulous and could be endorsed by gay marriage activists who see themselves supporting “the institutions of marriage and the family” as long as they can be in on them. If he wanted to be specific (as he was with global warming) he would have said, “the traditional institutions of marriage and the family.”

In saying this let me note that I am neither for or against traditional or gay legal marriage. I only support the freedom to establish any relationship contract desired and being allowed to call it what one wants.

Another quote:

“The contemporary world, with its open wounds which affect so many of our brothers and sisters, demands that we confront every form of polarization…resolve to support one another, with respect for our differences and our convictions of conscience.”

JJ

What system confronts every form of polarization?

Tyranny.

And where do we find no polarization?

North Korea, Cuba and China to a large extent.

Until unity is accomplished through seeing with understanding and vision, polarization is good and essential to positive social evolution.

Another quote:

” If politics must truly be at the service of the human person, it follows that it cannot be a slave to the economy and finance.”

Again this was very nebulous and can be interpreted several ways, but if you go by his past comments one would think he is merely speaking against human greed and possibly the free enterprise system in the U.S.

Part of the responsibility of government is to insure the safety of the economic system. Some would think this is being a slave to the economy.

Susan:

I believe him to be an initiate and a sane voice in today’s world. I believe he is speaking a message I find in the LDS scriptures and in the Bible, “and there was no poor among them.”

JJ

But he has made no proposals to help the poor outside of taking from the wise virgins and giving to the foolish. The process advocated by forced socialism and communism merely makes all poor except for a few at the top.

Promoting a surplus of freedom and teaching (without imposed restrictions) the benefits of good will is the key to eliminating poverty.

Our free enterprise system has done more to eliminate poverty than all the religious teachings ever have.

 

Sept 26, 2015

The Vicar of Redistribution

JJ

“But be has made no proposals to help the poor outside of taking from the wise virgins and giving to the foolish.”

Dave Curtis:

Without knowing you, it kind of looks like you are insinuating that all poor people are ‘foolish’. I think we all know that there are some people out there who are poor for reasons that are outside of their control.

JJ

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. Yes, most of the poor are not in that condition by choice and many of them would be willing to work to get ahead if they had the opportunity – providing the opportunity pays substantially more than handouts being received. So far supplying good jobs through free enterprise has been the best long term solution for helping the poor, but for those in a situation where a hand out is needed two solutions are offered.

(1) The Jesus Solution. Those who have means can voluntarily give of their substance to help those in need.

(2) The Caesar Solution. Government takes the money by force and, after taking its cut, gives to the poor.

The Caesar Solution is the situation I talked of where the five wise virgins are seen as having more than their share and forced to give to those who have not.

With the Jesus Solution the wise virgins will use their free will and common sense and not give so much oil that they do not have sufficient for their own positive goals. In the Caesar Solution they often have to give so much that they are short of oil themselves and they wind up joining the foolish virgins who are in need.

The Pope has made it clear that he supports the Caesar solution. Here he is in his own words:

I do not hesitate to state . . . that equitable economic and social progress can only be attained by joining scientific and technical abilities with an unfailing commitment to solidarity accompanied by a generous and disinterested spirit of gratuitousness at every level. A contribution to this equitable development will also be made both by international activity aimed at the integral human development of all the world’s peoples and by the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State

Every woman, man, child and elderly person everywhere should be able to count on these guarantees. It is the duty of every State that cares for the wellbeing of its citizens to subscribe to them unreservedly, and to take the necessary steps to ensure their implementation.

Speech to the Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations, May 2014

Here are some other quotes from him from his from his “Apostolic Exhortation” manifesto. These show an obvious hatred, as well as a misunderstanding, of the free market system.

“Inequality is the root of social ills … as long as the problems of the poor are not radically resolved by rejecting the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation and by attacking the structural causes of inequality, no solution will be found for the world’s problems or, for that matter, to any problems.

The current model, with its emphasis on success and self-reliance, does not appear to favor an investment in efforts to help the slow, the weak or the less talented to find opportunities in life.”

The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.”

“We can no longer trust in the unseen forces and the ‘invisible hand’ of the market. Growth in justice requires more than economic growth, while presupposing such growth: it requires decisions, programs … Not to share one’s wealth with the poor is to steal from them and to take away their livelihood. It is not our own goods which we hold, but theirs.”

“Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape. … Just as the commandment ‘Thou shalt not kill’ sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say ‘thou shalt not’ to an economy of exclusion and inequality.

In his speech before Congress he praised Dorothy Day as a great American. This selection was highly praised by socialist Bernie Sanders. No wonder, when one checks out some of Dorothy’s words such as:

We need to change the system. We need to overthrow, not the government, as the authorities are always accusing the Communists ‘of conspiring to teach [us] to do,’ but this rotten, decadent, putrid industrial capitalist system which breeds such suffering in the whited sepulcher of New York.

“On Pilgrimage,” Catholic Worker (September 1956)

It is only through religion that communism can be achieved, and has been achieved over and over.

From Union Square to Rome (1938)

We stand at the present time with the Communists, who are also opposing war….

“Our Stand,” Catholic Worker (June 1940)

Marx… Lenin… Mao Tse-Tung… These men were animated by the love of brother and this we must believe though their ends meant the seizure of power, and the building of mighty armies, the compulsion of concentration camps, the forced labor and torture and killing of tens of thousands, even millions.

“The Incompatibility of Love and Violence,” Catholic Worker (May 1951)

I was always much impressed, in reading prison memoirs of revolutionists, such as Lenin and Trotsky … by the amount of reading they did, the languages they studied, the range of their plans for a better social order. (Or rather, for a new social order.) In the Acts of the Apostles there are constant references to the Way and the New Man.

“On Pilgrimage,” Catholic Worker (December 1968)

I think everyone with a good heart wants to help the poor. The question is as to how the poor can be helped by the wise virgins without exhausting the oil in their lamps so the golden goose gets killed and all become poor.

The best way was taught by Jesus and that was for people to voluntarily take of their wealth and give it directly to the poor. This way they get all the money without Caesar taking his cut. Anything done through Caesar should have the support of the vast majority, else many will feel theft by force is at play.

 

Sept 28, 2015

Discernment vs the Pleasant Thoughtform

A Pope’s visit to the United States is always a special occasion for Catholics. Not only does it inspire many members but it gives the church an opportunity to reach out to non members as well and establish some good will.

What makes the current visit from Pope Francis different is the tone was much more political than normal. This in itself is a break from the past but becomes of even more concern when the new political specifics turn out to only support the left and gives many on that side ammunition to use against their political adversaries. Thus, instead of furthering unity as is one of his expressed goals, he winds up fueling increased division, and even hostility in some.

This country has always been wary of the possibility of a church gaining too much influence on our political system. This was brought into focus when JFK ran for president and later when Romney, a devout Mormon ran. In both cases, the people worried that such individuals would be overly controlled by their church’s doctrines or even directly by their leaders. Fortunately, JFK proved to be his own man and put the nation first.

Political influence from the Catholic Church has always been a concern to many non Catholics, largely because there are so many of them. Here are some figures as of 2013:

The Pope is commander-in-chief of the world’s largest, religious army of1.2 billion Catholics worldwide, including 78 million Americans in 17,645 parishes. There are approximately 200 cardinals, over 5,000 bishops, 450,000 priests.

Of more concern, when the Pope gets political, is that six of the nine members on the Supreme Court are Catholics, including the chief justice. Three Catholics are in the direct constitutional line of succession if the president dies. Twenty-four of our 100 Senators are Catholic. So are 163 of the 435 members of the House.

Therefore, when the Pope takes a political side he is taking unfair advantage of those naturally leaning to the other point of view. When disagreeing with the Pope is as close as you can get to disagreeing with God then the safe thing in the eyes of many is to just submit no matter what your gut says.

Already we hear reports of Catholic representatives who are changing their views on legislation concerning orthodox global warming, not because of the people they represent, but because of the words of Pope Francis.

When a leader as powerful as the Pope tells our representatives which way their votes should lean then such a leader is interfering with our political process, as there are more than enough Catholics to turn the tide of legislation in his favor. This is of particular concern since the Pope is not even a U.S. citizen.

If he is interfering then why is there so little outcry? There are several reasons why he seems to be so widely accepted.

(1) Catholic representatives with different views are reluctant to criticize or even publically disagree with the man who represents God on earth in their eyes.

(2) Yes, Pope Francis generically speaks of supporting tradition which mildly assuages the Right, but he specifically throws support behind a number of leftist views. Since most of the media, bureaucrats, and celebrities lean to the left and are thrilled with the Pope’s support, their endorsements bring into our living room the appearance of even more support from the people than is in reality the case. This has the effect of moving those on the fence toward the views of the left.

(3) Since the Pope seems to be a man with good, intentions stressing brotherly love and sharing many feel it best to drop the analytical approach and just focus on the positive, as others seem to be doing.

One lesson Obama should have taught us, is to ignore the huge supporting crowds and media support and look closely at what the man says to discern his true beliefs. Obama gave a few clues but many of his real beliefs were highly veiled and were only seen ahead of time by those who did pay close attention and analyzed.

Pope Francis uses a similar approach to Obama in that it is difficult for the general public to understand his mind and direction as there are many gaps in his reasoning that they seem to have to fill in themselves – and they fill them in with their own beliefs as a comfort to themselves.

Remember when Obama ran in 2008 and few understood where he really planned to take us. It was said that he was a blank slate and this allowed people to fill in the blanks as they desired about the direction he would take us.

The Noble Prize committee also filled in the blanks and gave in the Peace Prize only based on what they wanted him to be. The Noble prize secretary, Geir Lundestad, now regrets going along with the almost universal praise and giving away the prize prematurely.

Yes, Pope Francis is a nice guy and it would be fun to sit down and have a beer with him. He says some pleasant things, but here is what we need to ask.

If he actually got his way on his goals he is working toward what would be the result? Would he take us toward abundance, low poverty, less homelessness and more satisfying lives – or not?

The mistake made by many is that they accept statements that feel good rather than working out in there minds how such ideas will play out in real life and what must be done to make good sounding ideals a pleasant reality.

Copyright 2015 by J J Dewey

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 19

This entry is part 21 of 73 in the series 2015

Aug 9, 2015

The Reliability of the Higher Self

Ruth:

If souls can be deluded, then there is no Hope.

JJ

First, it is important to note that people mean different things when they speak of soul. Some are referring to the consciousness as it is incarnated on the physical plane and I think we all agree that regular human beings can be deluded.

Others may point to an example of one who claims to be in contact with his soul or Higher Self, and yet has been proven to be deluded.

We must always take the following into consideration. At least 90% of those who claim higher contact have not risen above contact with their own or other’s thoughtforms, or the deceptive astral plane.

So let us take the following.

Fred says he is in contact with his soul or Higher Self.

Freed says the world will end next week.

Result: The world does not end.

Conclusion: Fred was wrong so you can’t trust the Higher Self.

An important part was left out for the one arriving at this conclusion.

Was Fred really in contact with his Higher Self?

Even before we saw the prediction was wrong common sense should have told us the answer would have been no, but when we see the world didn’t end we can be close to 100% sure.

Now here is a question that we have not covered before – and I do not know of anyone who has:

Can the Higher Self be deceived?

The answer is yes, but its angle of vision is so far above us that we could not discover the deception.

To understand just compare your consciousness to that of a dog and the Higher Self to that of the human.

Can your dog be deceived?

Yes, it is quite easy to fool him. Can the human owner be deceived? Yes, it would be more difficult to deceive him but it can be done.

If the human is driving along with his dog and takes a wrong turn, will the dog have any clue about the deception?

No. The human could be going into the Badlands and the dog would be oblivious. The destination sought by the human is beyond the consciousness of the dog.

Will a human who loves his dog ever led the animal on a deceptive and harmful path?

No. All the training he gives his dog is for the highest good that he can conceive and will take the dog much further in progress than the dog can achieve on his own.

Even so, the Higher Self sees from a much higher angle of vision than us mortal reflections. When it gives us guidance it is in a direction that it knows is beneficial, and we can take that guidance to the bank.

But the Higher Self is far from the ultimate in consciousness and has its own limitations, which are beyond the understanding of the lower self.

It deals with the lower self with what it knows, but it also has a Higher Self, called the Monad, or a pure point of spirit intelligence which sees from a yet higher state of vision.

Our Higher Self has its own successes and failures and learns from them. However, it does not need our input or judgment any more than the human does from his dog when trying to decide about the next stage of expansion for his business. It is beyond the consciousness of the dog and the problems of the Higher Self are useless for us to concern ourselves with.

All the guidance that I have received from my Higher Self has been 100% reliable as it works out in my world. It is entirely possible that from Its angle of vision It could have done a little better in dealing with me.

 

Aug 11, 2015

Animal Love

Clay:

Have you never heard of the flower lecture given by the Buddha in which he held up a single flower at which point Kasyapa achieved enlightenment,

JJ

And what was the enlightenment that the guy received:

“Golly Gee!!! This flower is pretty!”

Clay:

or the other Zen Koan on whether a dog possesses Buddha nature?

JJ

So, did the dog glow in the dark with all that enlightenment?

Clay:

Also, that your flower analogy is inadequate as flowers are not capable of love.

JJ

Being the mystic that you are I’m surprised you never tuned into the life of a flower. Their consciousness is centered on the feeling nature and they bask in the love of God and seek to radiate it to other lives in the form of beauty and fragrance.

Some form of love is sensed by all life and they respond to it, but human consciousness is able to understand love in many more aspects than life in the lower kingdoms.

The heart center has twelve petals, each one representing a different quality that is capable of being understood and expressed by humans. In addition these twelve petals have a higher reflection in the head making 24 differentiations altogether.

The love you feel from your dog is a lower reflection of love which is a solar plexus energy called devotion. Devotion/love from a dog is nice and comforting, but does not compare to the value I give to the spiritual love I receive from my wife or the brotherhood/love I receive from my friends.

An interesting question is why do some think the love of animals is of a higher evolution than had from humans?

The answer is quite simple in the fact that the love from animals is very simplistic and centered on some type of devotion. They only have one aspect of love they can misuse – and sometimes they do and will turn on you and bite you.

Humans not only have the aspects from the solar plexus but can develop 24 additional qualities from the two heart centers. This means that they have many more qualities to distort and misuse before they are perfected.

Because we have much more in our consciousness to misuse it seems to some that we have less love.

The problem for humans is not less love, but that we have more aspects of love to deal with.

And when you find one who has perfected some of these aspects you will want to be in their presence above that of any animal. In this situation a little devotion from an animal is just icing on the cake of life.

 

Aug 12, 2015

Jesus and Business

Clay:

So I will ask you, do you really think Jesus was concerned with giving farming and business tips or do you think something else may have been going on? You seemed to have missed the message with the metaphor.

JJ

I do not think anyone here is claiming that it was part of Jesus’ mission to teach farming or how to run a business. He did demonstrate that he had a good knowledge of business principles by incorporating them in his parables. And why would he talk so much about business if he had no interest in them?

After all, his father had a carpentry business. And do you think that Joseph spent all his business time going around doing work for the poor for free so he could have treasure in heaven?

I doubt it.

I’m sure he ran a regular business with the goal of making enough money to take care of his family. I would imagine, like many businesspeople today, that he gave some donations of time and money with any abundance he had.

If Joseph had a successful business then most likely many of his friends were successful business people who Jesus encountered on a number of occasions.

It is interesting that he never spoke negatively of honest business people. Though he didn’t have a mission to create a business he seemed to find many of the business principles he did learn to be extremely useful in putting across his teachings. If he was antagonistic to the business world it is doubtful that he would have used so many examples of good business thinking to promote his teachings.

Here are a few of them

(1) He was familiar with the wine industry, illustrated by the teaching of not putting new wine in old bottles. (Matt 9:17) and the description of a winepress (Matt 21:33) and the constant use of vineyards.

(2) He used principles from the construction business. He talked about the importance of building on a solid foundation so the floods and winds could not destroy the building. (Luke 6:46-49).

He commented on a common business problem here:

For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him…Luke 14:28-29

Even today, most businesses that fail do so because those starting it underestimated the cost and labor that would be involved to make it successful.

(3) Jesus was obviously did a lot of observing and thinking about the principles of finance and the wise use of money and resources in business. This shows up in a number of his parables. The most famous one is the parable of the talents.

Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his property to them. To one he gave five talents of money, to another two talents, and to another one talent, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey.

The man who had received the five talents went at once and put his money to work and gained five more. So also, the one with the two talents gained two more. But the man who had received the one talent went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.

“After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. The man who had received the five talents brought the other five. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.’ “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

“The man with the two talents also came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with two talents; see, I have gained two more.’ “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

“Then the man who had received the one talent came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. So I was afraid and went out and hid your talent in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.’

“His master replied, ‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest. “

‘Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.

And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ Matt 25:14-30 New International Version

Obviously Jesus wouldn’t have used business principles here in such a positive way in his teachings if he saw them as something of pure evil. The “talent’ referred was a large unit of money equal to about 20 years of wages for the average person. We are talking about a huge business investment here, especially considering the first guy received ten talents.

The principles taught here apply to both material and spiritual values. We are supposed to take the abilities and values we have and multiply them.

The parable of the wise and foolish virgins also teaches a wise business principle. The wise virgins thought ahead and saved up the oil they needed for the future and the foolish did not. Neither did the wise share with the foolish because, then neither would have enough and neither would accomplish their goals.

Jesus talked a lot about making good investments in his teachings:

The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field. Matt 13:44

So sacrificing for the kingdom of heaven is like the guy who invests all he has in a business endeavor sure to pay off.

Finally, Jesus talked about the business owner who hired people at different times to work in his vineyard and paid them all the same. When those who worked longer hours complained the businessman stated that he paid them all as agreed and if he wants to pay the later workers the same as the first then it is his business.

If you own the business, you can do what you want with it.

I could go on but this is more than enough material to prove that Jesus was far from hostile toward businesspeople, of whom one as his father, Joseph.

Clay writes:

The only advice Jesus gave in regards to money directly was to “go out and sell all your possessions and give them to the poor”.

JJ

That was advice to a rich young man who badgered him as to what more he could do. He never said this advice applied to everyone. Joseph of Arimathaea was a rich man who was not asked not did he give all his riches to the poor. It’s a good thing because if he did he wouldn’t have had that expensive tomb he donated for the burial of Jesus.

Again the principle needs to be examined. The rich young man was obviously too attached to the material side of life and it would have been liberating for him to give his money to the poor and follow Jesus.

Clay:

As far as I can remember all of his direct teachings were not worrying about money “be like the flowers and who neither spin nor toil”. Don’t store up treasure, don’t take any money with you when you go out into the world, give to all those who ask with no thought of repayment. Not very solid business advice if you ask me.

JJ

Jesus adjusted his teaching to work with the circumstances. At first he told them to travel with just one set of clothes and take no purse or script. Later he changed his mind and said:

And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:35-36

Overall, when you read of the tone of Jesus when talking about business principles as he applied them to teachings, it is obvious that he did not frown on honest business people making a living.

 

Aug 15, 2015

Poisoned Apple

lwk

Maybe we should call it the “Poisoned Apple Principle”? Think of the beautiful apple that the Wicked Witch gave to Show White in the fairy tale. It was indeed beautiful and tasty. It just has a little poison in the center, just like Karl Marx. I believe JJ talked about that in the past, how the Dark Brothers take a principle of light, twist it a bit, add a little poison, and create evil from good.

JJ

The big problem with Marx is he advocated implementing his ideas through force.

Now if he advocated the testing o them in small voluntary groups first to prove their worth that would have yielded usable data and procedures.

Just like the ideal of free healthcare for all sounds great, but implementing this by force creates great waste, expense and suffering. Someday all will have access to healthcare without forcing the majority to pay for it against their will.

We were just about there when I was a kid and my hospital stay was $8.00 a day ($90) in today’s money. Then the government tried to help and costs went out of sight.

 

Aug 18, 2015

The Solar Angel Knows…

Larry Woods asks

How is it that our higher selves know so much about principles?

JJ

When our human monad descended to the world of souls it was overshadowed by a solar angel. The solar angel is the closest thing we have to a heavenly mother for it gives our monad birth as an individual consciousness in the kingdom of souls.

The solar angel obtained liberation in a previous solar system within this universe of seven. To repay the Universal Life for the progress they have made they have agreed to help the next great wave of human monads obtain liberation, just as they themselves were liberated long ago.

Because the solar angel is very ancient and has solved every problem that faces us (but in another system) she has a great knowledge of principles and grasp of wisdom and understanding.

The solar angel stays with us and nurtures us until we have mastered the lower nature and gained a great measure of wisdom ourselves. When the disciple becomes so soul infused that the solar angel can work through him on earth as it is in heaven then its job is accomplished and she leaves and returns to her home in the heart of the sun, not the physical sun, but a higher sun composed of more refined elements.

The disciple will then be on the road to becoming a Master and may later become a solar angel himself, or take some other path of service that interests him.

A question I have never seen addressed is whether a solar angel nurtures more than one monad at a time. I am inclined to believe that it overshadows a soul group of 6-12, or so, during a cycle.

 

Aug 22, 2015

The Song of Eternal Life

My friends, this is a special occasion. I am pleased to present to you a second Song of the Soul. The first was the Song of the 144,000. This new one is called The Song of Eternal Life.

To sing it through the soul to full effect, rather than just saying it, the participant must understand it and put thought into it as he or she speaks.

The first thing the seeker must realize and put into focus is that the whole universe is, not just alive, but very much alive, much more alive than believers realize.

We are recipients of this life which circulates everywhere, even on our darkest days when feeling depressed, in pain or ill.

So, if this vital life energy is always in circulation then why do we suffer disease, aging and death?

Because the Word is God and our words and thoughts distort the Life and reverse its direction. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand and we thus have disease and death in the physical realm because our words and thoughts are divided and pitted against each other.

This is one reason the ancient schools of initiation had students take a vow of silence for three years. For three years they could not speak a cacophony of words that were at war with each other and the flow of life.

The system was helpful, but wasn’t perfect, as the student still had his positive and negative thoughts, which are inner words.

This Song, spoken in the consciousness of the soul, will connect the disciple more firmly with the eternal source of life itself and will do much to neutralize the thoughts and words that take the student away from Source.

The benefit received will depend of the following:

(1) The power of thought that goes into the words being said.

(2) The number of thoughts and words affecting the seeker that need reversed or neutralized.

(3) The state of mind of the participant.

The results should be nothing but positive and will range from feeling additional energy, to healing, to life extension and even renewal depending on focus and the power of thought.

Here is the new Song.

The Song of Eternal Life

OM – OM – OM

I thank you Father-Mother-Spirit

For the energy of life that streams

From Universal Source to me

For the life that circulates through each atom and cell

Permeating my entire body and mind

Bringing health and vitality to all my living parts.

 

I bask in this life

I feel the life

I am the life

The life which knows not corruption

The life which makes all things new

The life which always IS.

 

I feel the life from my toes to the top of my head

And give thanks for its abundance.

I praise and love my body and all of its parts

For receiving this Life and Spirit and Source.

I praise body, mind, soul and spirit

For receiving without ceasing.

A-U-M (AHHHHH – UUUUUHHH [as in you] – MMMMMM)

 

If there is a particular part of your body which is in distress visualize this part when finishing.

If, for instance, you are having problems with your liver, praise it for doing a good job and being a recipient of this divine energy. Just as we, as individuals, respond to praise and love, so do the lesser lives. When praised they open up to the flow of life and become more receptive.

The worst thing you can do is to curse your liver (or other) problems for the distress you have. And to constantly complain or feel sorry for yourself sends a similar message to these lives so they feel unappreciated, overworked and may shut down.

“Whatsoever you do to the least of these you do to me,” said the Christ. And whatsoever thoughts and words you send to the least, or most distressed part of your body is going to your perfect Christ Self. If they are negative they cast a veil of darkness, hiding the power of the ever-manifesting God.

Neutralize and reverse the negative and you will release the power of the One Great Life.

The Song of Eternal Life will steer the life energy of the seeker in the right direction.

 

Aug 25, 2015

Letter to Local Paper

It challenges the imagination to even consider that Alyson Martin’s article on climate change (Aug 25) has any credibility when the headline starts it off with an utterly false statement, aimed at mean spirited political attack having nothing to do with science.

It calls people such as myself “climate change deniers.” The article adds to the deception by throwing in the, not so offensive but still inaccurate, “climate skeptic.”

“Denier” is used as a political attack only in the hope of associating those who do not agree with their views with the Holocaust deniers in order to shame them in the media. Anyone using this unscientific approach should instantly loose credibility.

Real science must always start by using accurate terminology.

So let us get this straight once and for all. Me, and others liked me, DO NOT deny that there is climate change and neither are we skeptical of this fact. I do not know of one thinking person on this planet who does not accept that there has been significant climate change going on this planet since it first had an atmosphere.

We do not deny or ignore any proven facts, though I cannot say the say for orthodox global warmers.

Neither do we deny that the release of CO2 has a warming effect on the planet.

Does Alyson even know where the real disagreement lies? Is she in denial or just ignoring it?

Here is the real question pointing to the disagreement:

Is the amount of warming caused by humans significant enough to cause panic and are the solutions presented political rather than scientifically viable?

Many who have examined the data are far from panic and find that the proposed solutions would create negligible results at tremendous cost.

If one is really concerned with climate change then he ought to make the containment of nuclear weapons (think Iran) his top priority as a few nuclear weapons unleashed could create a nuclear winter that would wipe out civilization.

 

Aug 29, 2015

Our True Home

Ginger asked a question a while back that I never addressed, however Ruth did supply some helpful quotes.

She asked:

I have a question. I understand the principle that energy follows thought and also that we get what we truly desire (regardless of whether it’s based on truth or illusion). I realize that whatever we focus on and send our energy to, can be created. If we desire to have a belief or thoughtform confirmed, we can create a “confirmation” of that belief. I am wondering how to discern between a confirmation of a truth from the soul versus a “confirmation” of a belief that we might create at an astral level because we want it to be true.

JJ

I have commented on this subject a number of times, but because it is an important one it may be helpful to say a few more additional words.

The problem with teaching soul contact is that most have not felt it in fullness and are therefore not sure what they are looking for.

The problem then is similar to the guy trying to explain what a lemon tastes like to one who has never tasted one. How would he go about doing this? The dialog may go something like this:

Teacher: A lemon tastes sour.

Student: You mean like a grapefruit?

Teacher: A little, but much more intense.

Student: like a sweet and sour sauce?

Teacher: It’s still a lot different. Take away the sweet and increase the sour.

Student: Like a lime then?

Teacher: Closer, but still different

The bottom line is that the guy will never know exactly what a lemon tastes like until he actually consumes one.

However, those looking for soul contact have a great advantage over the person who has never tasted a lemon.

All of us have tasted the powers of soul and spirit before.

“When was this?” asks the seeker.

That which you were before you were born was with the soul and your soul was projected by pure spirit, called the monad. Your true essence is soul and spirit and you have spent much more time basking in those energies than you have in your physical body here on earth.

The dense material body acts as a veil between our consciousness and that which is higher, but when the true higher is contacted the feeling is much different than tasting a new food.

It is like coming home.

Why? Because spirit and soul is where our true home is. There is a potent part of ourselves that has not forgotten what soul contact is and when this contact is rediscovered the seeker will know that he has discovered a link to his true Source. It will seem more familiar than anything he has known on the earth and he will know it comes from a true reality.

In saying this I am speaking of receiving a significant endowment of such energy that leaves no doubt. First contact is often the Still Small Voice which is so still and small that the seeker will often wonder if it is his imagination. If the seeker follows this voice though, more will come, and eventually a quantum of soul and/or spiritual energy will come to the point that the pilgrim will finally feel he has made it on the path that takes him home.

If I could give usable advice in one sentence it would be this:

Always go with the inner guidance that seems to take you in the direction of your true home.

Until the true path is discovered there are many detours to be found in the emotional and astral world and its energies. Because our desires are centered for many lives in the desire nature then what we receive as true is largely governed by our desires, or what we want to be true.

To find his true home the seeker must be pure in heart and lose his desire self to find his true self. When he finds his true self he will then replace his lower desire nature with a higher desire related to the fulfillment of Higher Will.

DK expresses it well with this mantra:

“I am a point of light within a greater Light.

I am a strand of loving energy within the stream of love divine.

I am a point of sacrificial Fire, focussed within the fiery Will of God.

And thus I stand.

I am a way by which men may achieve.

I am a source of strength, enabling them to stand.

I am a beam of light, shining upon their way.

And thus I stand.

And standing thus revolve

And tread this way the ways of men,

And know the ways of God.

And thus I stand.”

 

Aug 30, 2015

Ruth:

(a) the ancient Jews were here before the Ancient of Days, because they failed to pass over to a higher planet in their previous Universe, so did these Jews have to reincarnate into these much lower animal bodies, as punishment, rather than reincarnate on the new Earth in their previous physical bodies?

JJ

I had the idea that the founders of the Jewish race were here even before the Ancient of Days came from something I read in the Bailey works, but cannot find the precise reference on this. DK did say that the three who founded the Jewish race grasped “the garnered treasures of a thousand cycles. Naught did they wish to leave behind.”

Some readers think this incident (See Esoteric Psychology Vol 1 Pages 395-401) occurred in a previous solar system and others in the days of Lemuria. However, the mentioning of “a thousand cycles” give it a very ancient beginning.

The true beginning of the Jewish race on earth is a mystery to which we have a few details. The text in Esoteric Psychology Vol 1 Pages 395-401 gives some hints.

Ruth:

(b) did the AOD come here specifically to help these struggling laggard Jews?

(c) or did the AOD come to stimulate the struggling lower animal/human forms on Earth, so that the Jews could nurture this human race as part of their initiations and lessons on this Earth?

JJ

He came here to jump start the self conscious human race for all who would be incarnating here. The only laggard Jews that seemed to have been here are the three founding disciples. The rest were not in incarnation.

Ruth

(d) If the Jews were here before the AOD came, and these Jews were already self conscious etc, then they would have been wiped out as well as the lower evolving animal man when the AOD arrived on Earth and caused a tremendous electrical fire storm that burned up all the entities and animals on Earth.

JJ

It is quite likely that only the three disciples were here and they probably had power to regenerate their bodies.

Ruth:

(e) Who is, and what was his previous name, the first Adam in the Bible after the floods?

JJ

The only name we have for the first man of the Bible is Adam, who is also called Adam Kadmon in the Kabbalah.

***

Discovering the Will of God?

Blayne brings up interesting questions. After pondering how worldwide events fits in with the Will of God he says:

“Also sometimes people need a crisis or to suffer to wake them up to the fact they need to change. How does one discern what is Gods will or not in these or similar circumstances? Especially if one is trying to walk in faith relying on the inner voice when one can discern it and when one is not sure making their best judgment and moving forward?”

JJ

There are two extremes of thinking on this matter. The first says that everything that happens is the will of God and is just supposed to be.

If the guy’s spouse leaves him he just shrugs and says:

“Oh, well, I guess it was just supposed to be.”

Then he says the same thing if he falls off a ladder or gets fired from his job.

The problem with this view is it removes the thinker from taking any responsibility for his actions. If your spouse is supposed to leave you then why bother working at the relationship? If it your destiny to fall off a ladder then why try and be careful about your step?

Obviously, something does not conform to reality here.

The other extreme is from the materialists that believe there is no such thing as higher will and there is nothing preplanned. Everything is merely the result of our mental decisions here.

The truth, as usual, is neither extreme, but somewhere in the middle.

An example I have given before to illustrate this is the painting of a masterpiece, such as Leonardo DaVinci with the Mona Lisa. Here is an except from a class I gave in 2005:

When Leonardo Da Vinci, painted the “Mona Lisa” he had in his mind what he wanted it to look like and he probably had a lady there that looked like the Mona Lisa and he envisioned what he wanted it look like when the work was completed.

As he was painting along he knew the end cycle was the finished painting of a beautiful Mona Lisa sitting before him. The beginning was just looking at the Mona Lisa visualizing the end. So we have a cycle, and the end of the cycle was known to Leonardo Da Vinci. He knew the beginning and the end but he did not know everything in the middle. As he began to paint he thought, that color is not quite right so he kept working on the color, and he thought the smile was not quite right so he kept working on the smile because he knew how he envisioned it and he had it in his mind and so he kept working on it so that people would look at it and say, is she smiling or is she not smiling and that is what he wanted people to wonder about.

To get that look he had to make a lot of mistakes until he got it right and when that moment came that he got it right then it was the end of the cycle. But between the beginning and the end of the cycle he had no idea how many brush strokes he would make and he had no idea how many mistakes he would make and have to correct himself and start over again. Maybe some dog was chasing some cat and knocked over the painting and he had to start over and maybe he was going to paint her with a great big grin on her face and after the dog knocked it over he changed his mind. So you never know but we assume the standard story is true, that he envisioned how it would look and the cycle had a beginning and an end and he finally got where he wanted.

The point I am trying to make is that between the beginning and the end of cycles no one knows nor do they want to know all the little details and to think that God knows every little thing like how many times am I going to snap my fingers tonight. There are certain things that you don’t need to know and you don’t want to know but the higher the lives are the more their consciousness gets down to the essence of things and the essence of now until the end of time is covered with certain types of cycles and these cycles can be seen and they can be known.

From Knowing the Truth, Class given in 2005

To discover the Will of God it is helpful to correspond his greater works to our lesser ones. There are certain events that are planned, but many details that are not, but when difficulties come up that seem to thwart either human or divine will the thing to do is to pick up the pieces and move forward toward the goal.

World War II was a great threat to the coming cycle manifesting as it should, but freedom lovers did not accept Hitler’s vision and he was defeated and the incident turned out to move us more quickly toward the ultimate goal.

In the end, to fairly judge events that come up individually or on a larger scale is to use the second key of judgment.

One must keep in mind that even though the threat of Hitler wound up teaching us many things that was good, this does not mean that any of the Lights should have just shrugged their shoulders and said:

“Oh, well, I guess it was just supposed to be.”

Jesus spoke truly when he said: “Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” Matt 18:7

Here is a good quote from DK on the matter:

And my brother, be happy. Learn to feel joy – a joy which is based on the knowledge that humanity has always triumphed and passed onward and forward in spite of apparent failures and the destruction of past civilisations; a joy, which is founded upon the unshakable belief that all men are souls, and that “points of crisis” are factors which are of proven usefulness in calling in the power of that soul, both in the individual man, in a race, or in humanity as a whole; a joy which is related to the bliss which characterises the soul on its own level whereon the form aspects of manifestation do not dominate. Ponder on these thoughts and remember you are grounded in the centre of your Being and can, therefore, see the world truly and with no limited vision; you can stand unperturbed, knowing the end from the beginning and realising that love will triumph.

Discipleship in the New Age, Vol 1, Page 471

 

Sept 2, 2015

I have written two versions of a parable of the three blind men and the elephant. The longer version was published in The Lost Key of the Buddha. My original was written back around 1979. I just pulled it up and did some editing. Here is the finished copy

The Three Blind Men and The Elephant

By J J Dewey

A man of vision came across three blind men who were complaining about their limitations. “Follow me,” he said, and learn a great lesson from the elephant. He directed them to approach the elegant animal and give their description.

One man embraced a leg and said, “I perceive that an elephant is like a great tree.” The other man took hold of the tail and disagreed. He said, “No, my brother, I feel and know the elephant is like a rope.” The third man felt an ear and replied, “You are both wrong. The elephant is like a great carpet.”

After giving them time to digest their findings, the man of vision explained: “You are all correct, and you are also all wrong.” Then he took the three blind men and had each feel all of the three distinct parts. They responded in amazement: “Now we see that the elephant is a more complex being than we ever imagined. We condemned each other in ignorance, for one of us was as correct as the other.” Then they become curious and asked: “Tell us, Is there even more to the elephant than this?”

The man with eyes to see responded: “Yes, there is much more. You still have an incomplete view. I will take you around the elephant and you can feel the other parts.” To their amazement and joy, they discover that the elephant had not only one leg, but four and not one ear but two and many other previously unknown parts. He had a trunk, eyes, mouth, teeth and a large body they never realized existed.

After they felt all the parts, the blind men said: “We have now felt the whole elephant and our consciousness has greatly expanded, for we realize that before we knew nothing, even though we thought we knew all. Now we still realize that our understanding is imperfect because we do not see. Tell us, how can we see?”

The man with vision said: “I was once blinded as you are, but it does not have to be so. There is nothing wrong with your eyes. You merely have a film over them that needs to be washed off in pure water.”

He then handed them a pitcher of water and they each washed their eyes with it and the dark film dissolved. To their joy they found they could see. Looking about, they saw the elephant and asked: “What is that strange creature over there?”

The man replied: “Did you not recognize it? That is the elephant!”

Immediately, they realized: “Yes, of course, that has to be the elephant, but I never thought it was so large,” says one. “I never would have believed it was so small,” says another. “I never realized it was so beautiful,” says the third. But they all did agree that what they saw correlated with every previous fact they had discovered about the elephant. The discrepancies entered when they compared the way they felt and what they imagined about the elephant with what they actually saw. All Three of them admitted that they had erroneous thoughts and feelings about the elephant that were completely unfounded.

To their added joy they saw that there was much more to see than an elephant, but a complete new world to explore. Now that they could see they found that they were, in reality, just beginning to gain true knowledge. Everything else that they had experienced up until this time was merely a step to prepare them for true seeing.

Thus the three previously blind men stepped forth into the world of seeing. They explored, experimented, and begin to serve their brethren.

 

Sept 4, 2015

Jesus and Islam

A while back it was noted that DK stated that Jesus worked through Mohammed as he established the religion of Islam. To this lwk mentioned that this was one of the reasons to doubt the Bailey writings.

I do agree with lwk that we should not accept any writing or teaching anywhere near point-blank but should always be open to the possibility of error while still being open to the truth.

I can see why any non Muslim would question the idea that Jesus may have worked with Mohammed when one looks at many of the present offshoots like ISIS and the Taliban, as well as the restrictions of human freedom in some countries dominated by Islam.

Despite this present development I do not have a problem in considering that Islam could have been established by the Brotherhood. I have several reasons for considering that Mohammed may have received help from the Brotherhood of Light rather than the dark side. Here are some:

(1) You can’t judge the past from the values of the present. If we did then we would have to call the Jehovah of the Old Testament (or at least the Israelites) evil because they killed women and children of their enemies and even their animals at times. They had slaves and they put people to death for infringements such as breaking the Sabbath, being a rebellious kid, being gay, conversing with the dead and other small infringements.

The Christian church just after Jesus was much more benevolent but even they did not condemn slavery nor did they speak again the draconian laws of Moses.

The Christian church is around 2000 years old whereas Islam is around 1400 years in existence. If we go back in time to when the Christian Church was 1400 years old we see that they were in a dark age and burned at the stake or tortured heretics that didn’t go along with the program as decreed by the authorities.

Does this behavior make us think that the founder, Jesus, was not connected with he Brotherhood of Light?

No.

Speaking of founders, many today on the left condemn the Founding Fathers of the United States because they either owned slaves or didn’t do enough to stop it. They make the mistake of not looking at the times in which they lived and what they had to deal with. They especially overlook the progress that they did make in a difficult time that tried men’s souls.

Even so, the times of Mohammed were much different than today. He had to deal with desert tribes not that much different than Moses worked with. The best that could be done for them was to teach them precepts a notch or two above where they already were.

This is basically what Moses had to do. What really put things in perspective for me was the first volume of The Story of Civilization by Will Durant. This volume dealt with the known history of ancient civilizations and when I saw how they treated each other I realized that, despite their harshness, the Jews were several notches above their neighbors in civilized conduct. The time of the ancient Israelites was a tough time to be alive no matter where you lived.

(2) Islam thrived even against great odds.

In the Book of Acts Gamaliel is quoted as saying this about the early Christians:

And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God. Acts 5:38-39

Just as happened to the Christian church many attempted to destroy Islam in its beginnings and were unable to.

Do these apparently divine beginnings mean that the forces of light fully approve of Judaism, Christianity and Islam today?

No. Not at all.

Every work of light gets corrupted and eventually has to be reformed or destroyed to make way for the new. But even the new will only generally be beneficial for a period of time and have to be replaced by something higher.

And speaking of the flaws of radical Islam, I was encouraged by an article I read in the paper today about a group of Muslims who are trying to present a more positive side of the religion. Check out this link:

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/09/03/us-muslims-hope-new-billboards-reclaim-islams-message

This gives me encouragement that perhaps the religion as a whole will be transformed within a couple generations to a harmless one.

 

Sept 5, 2015

Islam

lwk

The primary difference is that there is nothing that I can see in the words of Jesus that would justify inquisitors, or conquistadors. However there is plenty in the supposed words of Mohammed that absolutely justify murdering and enslaving infidels, lying to advance one’s religion, and the idea that non-Muslims should be forced to pay for the right to even live and exist in an Islamic society.

JJ

It has been a while since I read the Koran, but as I recall many of the things embraced by the extremists are not justified there. It seemed to me to be of a similar quality as much of the Old Testament..

I remember I found some things in there where modern Islam is in conflict with it. For instance the Koran says it is a shame for a woman to cover her head yet most Moslem women wear a burqa because later authorities have decreed this.

Another teaching I found interesting was that the Koran says that Mohammed was just one of many messengers and all messengers are equal. Since it tells us that that Jesus was also a messenger then this would mean that the words of Jesus have as much weight as Mohammed.

Unfortunately, this teaching has been corrupted and today the interpretation is that the words of the last great teacher Mohammed take precedence over all who proceeded him. This is not taught in the Koran, but was injected after his death and followed thoughtlessly.

Many of the problems of Islam have occurred because of teachings and interpretations that have been a part of the tradition that arose after the death of Mohammed. During the first couple of centuries after Mohammed there was quite a bit of culture, science and cooperation that was later lost and has not surfaced again.

lwk

Did you happen to see the story recently in the news where extremely early texts that look to be part of the Koran were dated to possibly proceed Mohammed? Meaning of course that much in the Koran was not a revelation to Mohammed, but something he took and adopted to his own purposes.

JJ

I saw a story about the discovery of an early manuscript of parts of the Koran, but it was merely dated to the time of Mohammed.

As I said it has been a while since I read the Koran. I think I’ll read it again soon, take some notes and make some comments.

***

lwk

Mohammed borrowed from Judaism and Christianity, and indeed Jesus is considered a messenger of Allah, but by the principle of abrogation Mohammed is the _final_ word on everything. The words of Jesus are not equal to those of Mohammed (or his companions) in Islam.

JJ

There is no argument that the official doctrine of Islam is that the words of Mohammed have greater authority than Jesus or any previous messenger, but this is not supported in the Koran.

Also, the word of current authorities takes precedent because they are supposed to know what Allah meant when he spoke through Mohammed.

A similar thing happened in Mormonism. The current doctrine in the church is that the latest word of the current prophet is supreme and valid no mater what is written in any scripture or what was said by Joseph Smith. This is in effect even though it is not supported by anything written by Joseph Smith.

***

lwk

if we are talking about Islam then we cannot just talk about what is strictly in the Quran, we must take into account all the sources that Islam considers holy script including the Hadith or Sunnah. Christians do not say that only Mark, Matthew, Luke and John are their scriptures, but includes Acts and even Hebrews and Revelation.

JJ

There is no argument that modern day Islam uses other sources than the Koran. The Koran should be a much greater authority though because it was written in the days of Mohammed and even the gospels were not written in the days of Jesus.

The Hadith was compiled a couple hundred years after the Koran was written and who knows what is accurate in there? This would be comparable to the Apocrypha gospels that are full of contradictions and inaccuracies.

I agree that there are many things in the Koran that go against what we consider enlightened for us. I’ll comment on this later.

 

Sept 7, 2015

Piscean Age Religion

Keith writes:

Christianity was founded at the beginning of the Piscean age. The teaching was a new revelation. (The hierarchy always introduces a new teaching for each newage.) . Then Islam arrives a quarter way through the Piscean age reintroducing Arian (Aries) age concepts. If the hierarchy introduced Islam they disregarded two of their core principles. Never give out the same revelation twice (principle of economy). Teach an age appropriate revelation while revealing something new.

JJ

Actually Islam was very quintessentially Piscean. The keynote of the Piscean age is “sacrifice.” The very name “Islam” means “submission” and submission requires an act of sacrifice.

It is interesting to note that the two religions put emphasis on two different aspects of sacrifice. The main emphasis of Christianity was to sacrifice our material things and our material side. The emphasis of Jesus was on giving to the poor and following him.

The churches later corrupted this into demanding both the poor and the rich give to the church and follow their interpretation of Christ and His teachings.

On the other hand, Islam was presented to a people who already had few material things to sacrifice. Instead of placing emphasis on giving up material things, most did not have, the emphasis was on the sacrifice of self. The body, emotions and minds of the people were demanded to be given up to Allah and the prophet.

The idea was to sacrifice all your self for Allah and you will have all the wealth you can imagine in the next world.

During most of the Piscean Age we then had this opportunity presented to souls who wanted to learn the lessons of sacrifice.

They could incarnate into the Christian church and learn the lessons of letting go of the material side.

Or they could incarnate into Islam and learn the lessons of sacrificing the personality.

The third option was from the Eastern religions and the American Indian which had their own emphasis on sacrifice.

An enlightened seeker may look at these options and be repulsed by them and think that being born into any of these situations would offer him no advantage.

The answer is that there is always an advantage to be had and valuable experience to be had in any circumstance. Maybe the seeker has already mastered the basic lessons of sacrifice and freed himself from the controlling beast. If so, he may incarnate outside of mainstream religion into a challenge suitable to his needs. Then too, an advanced soul may incarnate into a corrupt religion in order to guide it along more productive lines or to assist other souls within it.

Yes, the advanced soul is repulsed by being subject to dogma of all kinds, but rank and file humanity demands it for themselves, so during the Piscean Age it was made available in such a way that the lesson of the age could be burned into their soul experience.

Through this Piscean Age many souls have incarnated within the two religions learning the lessons of sacrifice. Many of those who have mastered this quality have later incarnated outside of religious dogma and have become entrepreneurs in introducing new ideas and business. To successfully do this requites the quality of sacrifice.

Take the guy starting a business. To be successful he has to forget about his personal material needs and place all his assets on the line and risk all he has on his venture. He also discovers he must sacrifice self much more than expected and put full attention on the business to make it succeed. He does his symbolic three prayers a day to Mecca in the hope of success.

Thus, the successful entrepreneur incorporates the Piscean lessons learned from Christianity and Islam to succeed in the present.

It is interesting to note that for the first few centuries of Christianity that a more complete sacrifice was demanded than after Islam came along. There were many martyrs that had to give up everything. There have always been martyrs, but, later on, the church became focused on demanding material things from the members. If one brought a few indulgences he could live the rest of his life how he pleased.

Islam conveniently filled the gap by demanding total personality sacrifice.

Both Islam and Christianity became corrupted after their founding, but they still managed to teach many the lessons of sacrifice.

Could DK have been correct in stating that Jesus inspired Islam?

I believe so. First, consider that Christianity was initiated through the effort of both Jesus and the Christ giving it more initial emphasis on the purity of love.

Islam was initiated by Jesus, as the main agent, working through Mohammed. This partly accounts for the different flavor. The other ingredient is the more primitive people that had to be approached.

Does this mean that all the words of the Koran or later words attributed to Mohammed all came from Jesus?

No.

What most likely happened was that the original impetus came from Jesus representing the brotherhood, but that most of the revelations came from the soul of Mohammed filtered through his personality.

This was the way it had to be for the people would have rejected pure words of truth about love, and metaphysics. In filtering the revelations through his personality Mohammed was able to deliver messages that resonated with the people and cause the religion to materialize.

Most initiates of great movements make numerous mistakes along the way and when they do the Brotherhood generally does not correct them, unless he specifically asks. Therefore, when the initiate gets a false revelation or idea in his head the Brotherhood just looks on and lets him move forward with the error.

Why?

Because this approach works better in the long run. It is a little like the error of assisting the butterfly from the cocoon. This will often kill it, as it needs the struggle to gain the strength to survive.

Even so, initiates and followers must move ahead on their own as much as possible, even with their incorporated errors. Eventually the errors will be revealed and understood so they will not be repeated.

The dark brotherhood rarely creates anything new. Instead, they let the Brotherhood of Light do all the initial heavy lifting and then seek to take over the organization and bend it to their will. They will then seek to establish themselves as leaders and reap all the benefits for the few at the top.

Such an effort has been ongoing in the United States since the founding and they have made many inroads.

As we enter the Aquarian age we will seek to take the lessons of sacrifice and use them constructively to focus our attention on creating a better world than ever recorded in history. Christianity is already losing its power to demand full material sacrifice from the many to the hierarchy, and over the next couple hundred years Islam, as a whole, will seek to take the more positive aspects of its religion and focus on them, rather than being at war with the world.

The keyword for the Aquarian Age is “service” and the religions of the world will change direction and place attention on this aspect more than sacrifice.

We see a foreshadowing of this when there is a calamity and many Christians respond to assist with labor and goods. Islam will eventually follow this example.

There will be many organizations, governments and businesses that will lead the way with service and brotherhood. If all goes according to plan then we will see a new and improved world within the next century or two.

 

Sept 8, 2015

Clay:

I think when considering Islam one must consider that it was developed over stages. The first teachings are very enlightened and a huge step forward for that area of the world. However, as Muhammad had to flee to Mecca and started fighting and was engaged in non-stop warfare his teachings entered the Jihad stage and rapidly deteriorated. One looks at the Qu’ran as a whole but it is really better viewed as almost two separate phases of development, pre and post Jihad. Just something for everyone to consider.

JJ

That is a good point and the Koran that we have today is not in chronological order so it is difficult to decipher which time period some came into existence. If the group is forced to fight for its existence one can expect revelations filtered through Mohammed would focus more on war and retribution. Unfortunately statements lifted from these times are creating a lot of trouble for civilization today.

Most of Joseph Smith’s revelations stress peace, love and enlightenment, but after enduring great persecution, attack and the deaths of many members the tone of his speech and that of other leaders was greatly altered. If Mormons focused on some of the aggressive statements of past leaders when under threat they would be a greater threat today than ISIS.

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Where Evil Dwells

In the last stanza of the Great Invocation we read:

From the centre which we call the race of men

Let the Plan of Love and Light work out.

And may it seal the door where evil dwells.

Let Light and Love and Power restore the Plan on Earth

Because this was given out near the end of World War II many associate this “door where evil dwells” with Nazism.

This idea is both right and wrong. Nazism contains the ingredients that opens the door to evil, but what lies behind the door goes by many other names that have nothing to do with Nazism or Hitler.

Here are the prime ingredients to the evil mentioned.

(1) Great restrictions on human freedom.

(2) Citizens have forced upon, them unnecessary laws, regulations, ceremonies, observances etc that diminish their quality of life and keep them under control.

(3) The people are monitored and observed as much as technology will allow to find potential dissidents and deal with them.

(4) Any speech or action out of harmony is severely punished.

(5) Leaders must be believed and praised whether they deserve it or not.

(6) They threaten war, not to preserve security, but to expand their dominion.

(7) The evils they perpetrate will be blamed upon others with an amazing amount of success.

This door to evil has been opening and partially closing since the beginning of civilization.

Where the illusion concerning this keeps occurring is due to the inclination of human nature to want to see things in terms of black and white. They want to call A good and B evil and be done with the effort of thinking about it. What is overlooked is that both A and B take their turns at playing the roles of good and evil so when the focus of evil changes the focus of the people stays the same. This is what gives evil its great power. When the dark forces are defeated in one group, they just switch their focus to another that seems to not be a threat to the world.

During the Civil War the focus was on the perpetuation of slavery. When that did not succeed they shifted their focus to the corruption of he Constitution of the United States while preparing German forces for world conquest.

When they lost World War I they shifted their full attention toward Hitler and the Nazi party.

With their defeat in 1945 the door to evil was partially shut, but this did not discourage them. They then shifted their attention to the Soviet Empire. Again they were frustrated with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the USSR. Once more they had to shift their focus and this time it was to the radical components of Islam.

Until this shift of focus all Islam seemed to be under control and of no significant threat to the Western World, but what is not realized is that the dark forces can take a small group and use then to stir many people up to anger to the point of desiring war.

For some time after the fall of the Berlin Wall radical Islamist were thundering on about the damage they were going to do, but we were asleep to this shift of focus until that fateful day, Sept 11, 2001 when it became clear to thinking people that we had a problem.

Today radical Islam is a threat not because of Mohammed, but because they are the focus of evil forces to use for their own purposes. The Koran could contain only words of love and peace and Islam could still be the focus and have become a great warlike threat. After all, the words of Jesus are the greatest ever written, yet the Christian church has taken its turn, centuries ago, as the dark focus.

It has been a burden that the Hierarchy of Light has had to deal with, that any work they have inspired in the past will be corrupted and used by the forces of darkness at one time or another, causing many to discount the good they tried to accomplish. The reason for this corruption is that there has been no organization with members enlightened enough to participate in something incorruptible.

This is what we hope to change. Organizations built on the Molecular Relationship have the potential to be incorruptible because members will have soul contact and it will have self-correcting mechanisms.

Copyright 2015 by J J Dewey

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 18

This entry is part 20 of 73 in the series 2015

Aug 1, 2015

Seeing by Darkness

Here is an interesting logical challenge for those who wish to argue that there is no such thing as darkness, dark entities or a dark brotherhood.

According to this belief there is no darkness anywhere so of course there are no dark individuals or brotherhoods anywhere.

BUT… what I have presented is not using such not-found-in-the-dictionary definition of terms. When I write I use the common definition of words as understood by the masses unless stated otherwise.

I use light and dark in reference to people’s minds in the same way that Jesus did in this verse:

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!” Matt 6:22-23

“Single” comes from the Greek HAPLOÛS which indicates unity, focus and wholeness. Its corresponding noun is HAPLOTĒS and the adverb form is HAPLŌS. These words often imply a generous spirit.

Some scholars equate it with ancient Jewish sources speaking of the “good eye” which was an idiom for a generous spirit. For instance in Proverbs 22:9 we read:

He that hath a bountiful eye shall be blessed; for he giveth of his bread to the poor.

“Bountiful” comes from the Hebrew TOWB which can be translated as good, generous and joyful among others. It definitely implies a positive and generous attitude.

“Single” here is also commonly interpreted to mean “single to the glory of God,” or “single to that which is good.” The expanded meaning would imply a focus on giving of oneself in service. This is obviously the direction intended as the opposite direction mentioned is “But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.”

“Evil” here is translated from the Greek PONĒRÓS. Strong’s gives the core meaning as being “hurtful.” Thayers describes the meaning as “Full of annoyances, hardships, pressed and harassed by labors … Bringing toils, annoyances, perils.”

The Septuagint usage implies a grudging person lacking of generosity.

So, Jesus was saying that if our eye or focus is on selfishness, bringing others hardship, apparently for one’s own benefit (evil) we will be full of darkness, but if we do the opposite and have a single purpose of helping others and bringing glory to God and not the self then we will be full of light.

Jesus makes an interesting statement about darkness. He says, “If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness.”

Ponder on this for a moment for it presents an interesting thought.

What does he mean here? How can light be darkness? Isn’t light just light and dark just dark? How can a light within you be darkness?

The answer is quite simple though I haven’t seen it presented before.

Light is the means by which we see and discern what is real and true. If our eye be single and focused on the good and seek to help others then we take in and use real light from God and see reality as it truly is.

On the other hand, if the eye is turned, not outward, but inward toward self, the true light enters not and in place of light that reveals truth the poor soul is filled with great darkness, according to Jesus.

But here is the interesting thing. The light that is within him is darkness. In other words, the guy dwelling in darkness, doesn’t see himself as being in darkness because darkness is the light by which he sees. To him, darkness is light.

So how could darkness be light? Isn’t it impossible to see anything in darkness?

The key to understanding this is that the light Jesus is referring to is not sunlight, but he inner light that reveals truth. One who is truly focused on the good the beautiful and the true will see by the true inner light. One who is focused on the desires of the lower self will see by other means, and that other means is called by Jesus, darkness.

He who is consumed by great inner darkness will have to use the outer lights of the physical and emotional worlds for vision. Using these alone is spiritual darkness compared to the disciple who sees by the inner light above the outer.

The problem for the one in darkness who may be a surface student of the inner is that he can see himself as guided by an inner light as it seems that he looks within to find the astral/emotional light.

The problem is that this astral light is even more deceptive than the physical and turns everything upside down so what is seen is either through a fog or reversed from true reality.

It is interesting that we find people, highly intelligent in nature, who rely on the true light as well as the darkness. This is why we see about us many intelligent people taking different sides of an issue, which, to the one with the inner light is a no-brainer to see it for what it is.

Attempting to see with physical eyes only through the filter of the emotional self is truly seeing in darkness or the attempt to use darkness as a light. The inner light is so powerful that by comparison all lights in the physical and astral are darkness.

The gospels speak of light and darkness a number of other times. Here was a description of the mission of John the Baptist:

To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. Luke 1:79

Here is Jesus in his own words describing this duality:

When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness. Luke 22:53

Here is a description of the effect of the mission of Jesus using the duality of light and dark.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:19-21

This scripture gives an interesting demarcation between those in the light and the dark. Those who love darkness hate the light. Those in the light do not hate and would leave those in darkness to their own devises if those in the dark did not hate them and attempt to frustrate the works of light.

And why do those in darkness hate the light that exposes the truth? Because, as the scripture plainly says, the light exposes their deeds. Actually it does more than that. Light, which reveals truth exposes the intent, the plans and the unfolding of the works of darkness. Because those who attempt to hide their intent in darkness do not want them exposed they hate any light which does just this.

We see this principle played out in the actions of many sneaky politicians who attempt to put things over on us. They will write up a bill that they know the majority will oppose and then do everything in their power to prevent the public, as well as other representatives, from finding out controversial details within it.

Anyone who tries to shed some light and expose what is in it will be hated and attacked.

Meanwhile, the guy who is in the light doesn’t mind anything that is true being revealed.

Another thing they do it take a bill with a pleasant sounding name, like “The Education Bill” and place some controversial rider in it that has nothing to do with education. Maybe it is money that will go to potential terrorists who may immigrate here and could become a big problem later on. Whatever the case, these riders are often pieces of legislation or spending that the vast majority would not support.

So what happens when some honest politician tries to throw some light on the subject? He is hated and attacked as being anti-education, even though the problem has nothing to do with education. The politician in the light doesn’t care how much light is thrown upon any of the works of Congress because he wants the people to be exposed to the truth so they will know what is going on.

It is true to form then that the honest politicians (few though they may be) are often the most hated, and attacked. Their message is also the most distorted by their enemies.

Conclusion: The gospels, and Jesus in particular, divided the people into those who are in the light and those who are in darkness. We see this also played out in our day, the political world being just one example.

So, are there organizations representing the two sides of light and dark?

If the scriptures have any value at all the answer would have to be yes.

First, let us see what they say about organizations in the spiritual light, which, of course, would be the side representing God and Christ.

Paul spoke of the spiritual organization representing the light:

To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God. Eph 3:10

Here we have mention of “principalities and powers in heavenly places.”

He also says that God

…set him (Christ) at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: Eph 1:20-21

So here we have mention of principalities, powers and dominions not only in this world, but the one to come.

It indeed sounds like there is a lot to govern in the pertinacities of light:

Concerning the Ancient of Days it is written:

A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: Dan 7:10

Then we have this in reference to the Archangel Michael:

Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me… Dan 10:13

The fact that he was a chief price or ruler indicates a position in a hierarchy.

The scriptures do not give the full organization, or the number of different ones in the light, but a few details are given.

We are told that Christ or God is the “Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Rev 17:14

Lords and kings are governors over organizations and Christ is the head guy over them.

The Book of Revelations gives a representation of God (or the one that represents God for us) as being in charge and before him are 24 ancient ones as well as seven great spirits. There are also seven great angels and many saints. In addition there is “an innumerable company of angels.” Heb 12:22

Obviously there is a hierarchy and principalities of light involved in maintaining order in this “world to come.”

Now let us look at the other side. Jesus talked of those who represented “the power of darkness.” Do they have any organization?

The scriptures give us a definite yes. Again, here is Paul’s famous words on the matter:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6:12

So here it is clearly revealed that there are “rulers of darkness” in this world as well as “high places.”

“High places” is translated from the Greek EPOURANIOS which means “heavenly or celestial places.” In other words, there are dark hierarchies existing beyond this physical realm.

Then we have this:

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Eph 1:23

Most likely “air” here signified an other worldly place as seen as being above the earth. It is interesting coincidence to consider that dark minds may control many of our AIR waves though which so much of the media is broadcast.

Here Paul tells disciples that before they walked in the light of Christ they were under the control of the adversarial dark prince.

Perhaps another reason he was called the prince of the air is it seemed as if he could broadcast his thoughts through the air which could be picked up by those who were susceptible.

This head prince was identified in the scriptures as either the devil or Satan, both titles signifying in the Greek an adversary or an accuser. Unfortunately such a being has been the victim of such caricatures with horns and a tail so a belief in such an entity is compared to a belief in Bigfoot or the Big Bad Wolf.

Many also say that any such dark entities are just a product of one’s imagination or a thoughtform.

While it is true that the door to evil or darkness is open by the individual’s our own mind, the scriptures are definite that such beings exist just as undesirable characters exist as neighbors and associates that we may inadvertently let into our lives.

In reference to such a being functioning with a darkened mind here are words from Jesus himself:

Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die. John 12:31-33

Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. John 14:30

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. John 16:7-11

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:18-19

Finally we have an unusual reference in the book of Jude to this being:

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Jude 1:9

Here is what we have concluded as definite truths testified to by the scriptures as well as the words of Jesus.

(1) There are those who dwell in the light and those who dwell in spiritual darkness.

(2) Christ, God, Michael and other benevolent beings are a part of a hierarchy on the side that dwells in the spiritual light.

(3) There is a hierarchy of spiritual darkness opposing the hierarchy of light.

(4) There are “rulers of darkness” in this world and in the unseen world. Jesus called one such being the “prince of this world” or Satan. He was also called the “devil”, which means “accuser” and the “prince of the power of the air.”

Of course, one can maintain that any part of the scriptures one does not want to accept is just allegorical and interpret them according to one’s imagination, but if they have any truth at all as written, there does definitely exist beings dwelling in the light and darkness in this world and the next.

Summary

Even if the scriptures are totally rejected the following is true:

(1) There are individuals and groups on this planet who have designs to do good unselfish works to benefit humankind and bring greater freedom.

(2) There are individuals and groups who have designs that are evil, destructive, misled and will enslave others to further their own selfish or illusionary purposes.

(3) These two group exist among those of all grades of intelligence as intelligence is assessed by orthodoxy.

(4) There is a high probability that there are groups of high intelligence, unknown to the masses, on both sides of the equation.

This would support the idea of a Brotherhood of Light and Dark as both have representatives in physical bodies in this world. All it takes to accept the possibility of their existence is the acceptance of point four.

On the other hand, if we accept the teaching of the scriptures that light and dark extends beyond the physical to a light from God that enlightens the mind we can add the following points.

(5) The spiritual light mentioned by Jesus and the prophets reveals truth and he who rejects this light is in darkness where truth is obscured, distorted or hidden. This creates a spiritual demarcation between light and dark.

(6) There are physical and non physical realms wherein intelligent life dwells. If intelligence is divided between light and dark here then it is logical that such a division would continue in some form in at least part the non physical realms.

To those who outright reject the probability of a dark and light brotherhood let me ask this question.

At what point does the demarcation between light and dark cease?

Anyone who watches the news any evening can see that the demarcation exists. There are stories of organizations that are attempting to do good things and others who are attempting to do destructive things. For instance, I just heard the report that Iran wants to destroy Israel off the face of the earth and then hunt down the remaining Jews and gleefully put them to death. I’d say that attitude is a rejection of the light and love from God.

Again, where does this demarcation end? Does it end when a person becomes a master to some and obtains more power over the elements than the ordinary person? Does this demarcation just instantly cease when a certain degree of intelligence is reached? If so where is that degree at?

The Law of Correspondences tells us that as above, so below and as below so is above to a high degree so if there is an obvious demarcation in this world then why would one not exist in some places in the non physical worlds?

Now in the world of souls the light is in much more abundance than here, but there are many invisible realms in the universe and whether high or low some have more light and truth than others.

Unfortunately, there are a few who completely reject the spiritual light and love of God. Shutting off the source of light indeed creates a world of spiritual darkness. Let us hope none of us visits that state of consciousness.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. Jesus

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Richard:

JJ: On the other hand, if the eye is turned, not outward, but inward toward self, the true light enters not and in place of light that reveals truth the poor soul is filled with great darkness, according to Jesus.

me: This would appear to contradict the many verses that say that to find god you must look within yourself.

JJ

The context is important here. I am talking about the focus of the eye or our energy for sending. If we seek to have all gifts come toward the lower self for self benefit then the light that comes in to the body will be darkness and confusion. If we see our fellow men and woman out there as those that we can kindly assist in some way then the eye is seeing in the light and the person will be full of light.

On the other hand, when one is seeking truth and being reflective he must find that true light within and discover what it reveals.

Looking at the true light within and the darkness of the lower self within are two different things. As I said, the astral light appears to be within, but causes great deception. Even in looking within one must discern between the astral light and the light of the spirit.

The key here is that the brightness of the light within is caused, in great measure, by how we direct our eye of attention to the world of service without. He who has discovered light within must share it with the world without in order to keep the light of truth shining bright.

When’s the last time you learned anything of value from some monk who spent half his life meditating in a cave?

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Clarifications

The problem is in identifying a organized brotherhood of darkness out to defeat what you define as “the light”.

JJ

It is not so much they are out to defeat each other, but their goals are so different that they get in each other’s way.

Clay:

As I mentioned earlier, the reason why intelligent men and even highly spiritual men can disagree over an issue, is not necessarily am issue of light fighting against darkness. Many times it is light arguing with light.

JJ

If one in the full light of the soul disagrees with another then it is because they do not understand each other. When they understand each other they will agree if they run the details by their souls.

Those who not bask in the light of the soul of all kinds of intelligence levels have many disagreements with those in and out of soul light.

Clay

For instance I think someone like Ayn Rand was arguing for what she considered to be truth and let’s say it is the Red spectrum, and Karl Marx was arguing for what he considered to be the truth which is maximum equality, which lets say is on the violet spectrum. Neither is completely right and neither is completely wrong. Socialism is needed to balance the excesses of Capitalism. The individual must be balanced against society. Rand erred on the side of the individual, Marx erred on the side of the community. However, these two acting in tension with each other seems to balance the inadequacies of the other. One is not more light or more dark than the other. They are both part of the light.

JJ

You seem to think that I believe that either a person is 100% enlightened or completely in the dark. I have never taught or thought such a thing. It would be interesting to see how much we really disagree if you understood me correctly. The problem is that I understand where you are coming from but you do not with me, as you do not accurately understand many of the things I present.

Both Rand and Marx had a desire to improve the human condition and both may have had some insight of light come to them through the soul. I do not see either as soul infused but both were polarized in the lower mind and operated from the vantage point of reason filtered through their illusions.

Where two people are subject to illusion they will disagree on a number of things. When two reply on the concrete mind they will disagree on a number of things for the mind is the slayer of the real. Only two sharing the light of the soul together can see as one. This is the basis of the Molecular Relationship of which I have written.

Clay:

You seem to think that anything that limits freedom is a move towards darkness,

JJ

Completely false. The freedom of burglar to invade your home and many other things need to be limited by law to insure maximum freedom for the individual and groups.

Clay;

but it can just as easily be argued that anything that leads to greater inequality, is also a move towards darkness.

JJ

I wouldn’t argue for either one.

Clay:

The truth is that no one posses the complete truth and it is a mistake to think that any person, party, ideology, and especially yourself is in possession of the complete truth.

JJ

Yes. That is a pretty basic truth that almost everyone accepts.

Clay:

To me, maximum freedom is the law of the jungle, anarchy. For me that is not ideal. I believe in maximum liberty balanced by maximum justice, balanced by maximum equality, balanced by maximum compassion, balanced by maximum responsibility, balanced by maximum altruism.

JJ

I have talked a lot about maximum freedom and that is far far from what it is. If you are going to argue with me you need to argue with what I say and believe, not with what I do not say and believe.

There is little freedom of worth with out the rule of law which prevents roving gangs and criminals from threatening the freedom of all. Maximum freedom is created through necessary laws to restrict the complete freedom of those who will do harm from restricting the maximum freedom of the majority.

Clay

I stand by the dark is just absence of light…

JJ

I stand by it too but because night is created by an absence of sunlight does not mean that night does not exist and that we have to deal with it by turning on some lights so we can see.

Similarly a dark brother is one who has turned away from the light of the soul and does not share in it. He uses lesser lights to guide him which by comparison are darkness.

Clay:

Again JJ you do not leap from the natural world to the supernatural and claim you are being logical,

JJ

If you believe this then why do you repeatedly leap to the supernatural in your posts? You have related a number of supernatural experiences of you and your wife. Are you saying you are both illogical?

 

Aug 3, 2015

Loving Darkness

Ruth asks:

why do men love darkness, or why are humans so attracted to darkness…………is there a principle to this?

JJ

People love or hate what they see and if they reject the spiritual light or have not arrived at the vision then all they have to love is the material world.

Ruth

when Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of the Tree of Life…….eg to know Good from Evil, then they also chose to know evil or darkness, yes?

JJ

This story represents the time when humans became self conscious. They didn’t think, “Oh boy, I now get to choose evil if I want.” They merely became aware they had freedom to choose.

Ruth:

Cain killed Abel, because God gave Adam and Eve the free will to know Good from Evil, but then God gets upset because people love darkness…..?

JJ

Higher lives do not get upset. Nothing can disturb their peace in their high place.

Ruth

(d) When the ancient Jews/ Laggards were sent to Earth from the previous Earth or Universe, it was because they failed to pass over the portal, and had to be sent to another Earth, so that they could undertake the necessary initiations again…………and you have said that if one does not learn from their mistakes, or runs away from their challenges in life, then the lessons get harder and harder until one learns……..therefore this Earth is like an even harder challenge and test for those Jews/Laggards to master, which means that the Good and Evil is going to be perhaps even greater than anything that they undertook previously, because they failed to learn from their previous lessons, which means that some of those laggards and/or Jews, already had darkness in their hearts, and then brought that with them to this Earth?

JJ

No this earth will not necessarily be more difficult than the last one. In some ways it will be easier because of the vast experience they have under their belts. What I was talking about is a particular problem that the soul wants us to solve in a particular life. If we refuse to work on it in one life then a more difficult situation will be created in another to force us to focus.

The laggard’s situation is like being in school and having to repeat a grade. For most the repeat will be a little easer because they have learned a few things the other students did not.

She asks about the source of evil on this planet. It is merely the cumulative effect of consciousness here on many levels that resist the spiritual light.

Ruth

Both Moses and Jesus were assigned to this Earth to help the laggards and/or Jews move forwards more into the Light and pass the necessary initiations set out for them, so most of the Bible teachings are aimed “firstly” at the Jews/ Laggards, and then secondly at the rest of the human units on Earth, who the Jews are supposed to be uplifting as part of the plan to pass through the next portal, is that correct?

JJ

The focus in a past age was on the Jews hoping they would be a light to the world, but now the focus is on anywhere in the world where light may be received.

Ruth:

The old souls are more stuck in darkness because of their antiquity, and the Karma that they generated in the past?

JJ

Some are stuck and some are moving ahead fine.

Ruth:

Is the Reformed Brother, the one Lucifer who “fell” or “rebelled” because he didn’t want to come to this Earth, or because he wanted to rule this Earth instead of being a laggard here, or was he one of the good guys, (see below quote)…..?

JJ

I wasn’t talking about Lucifer when writing of the reformed brother.

We do not have many details about the Lucifer (Morning Star) who fell. DK merely tells us that it was caused by a disagreement in the councils of the Most High. He says.

Again, in the council chamber of the Most High, there has not always been peace and understanding, but at times, war and disruption; this is made abundantly clear by several of the stories in the Old Testament. Symbolically speaking, some of the sons of God fell from their high estate, led, at one time, by “Lucifer, Son of the Morning”. This “fall of the angels” was a tremendous event in the history of our planet, but was nevertheless only a passing and interesting phenomenon in the history of the solar system, and a trifling incident in the affairs of the seven constellations, of which our solar system is but one.

He says it was a “symbolic fall” indicating it was not a fall as most literally understand it from the scriptures. Maybe more of just a temporary falling out.

 

Aug 4, 2015

Molecular Business Attempt

Dan Price, an Idaho native, attempted to implement one of the core ingredients of the Molecular Business, which is an equal salary for all. Consequently he is having major problems and the existence of his company is now threatened.

Click on one of the links below and read the article, then answer the following?

What ingredients of the Molecular Business is Dan not using that is creating so many problems for him?

What results has Dan achieved that indicate that a Molecular Business could be very successful if done right?

What problem did occur for Dan that will probably have to be dealt with by a true Molecular Business?

Here is the LINK.

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Before I answer Larry’s questions I want to emphasize that the questions dealt with what Dan Price did contrary to the Molecular Business principles that created problems for him.

Larry

1) So how do you reconcile the parable of Jesus where all got paid the same whether they worked a full day or half a day or just one hour?

JJ

The point of the parable is that the guy with the gold makes the rules and if you agree to pay a person a certain amount for a product or service and keep your word on the matter then it is no one’s business what you pay anyone else.

On a similar note if I buy a product at a store for $100 and then a few days later the price drops to $70 I have no right to complain because I felt the product was worth $100 and I agreed to pay it. If I complain to the store they may or may not give me a rebate. They are justified either way.

The scriptures say that all the worthy laborers will be entitled to ALL that God has. If you wind up with everything you could possibly use why would you grumble about what anyone else receives? If you put in more labor than the other guy you will have developed more skill that can be applied to the next endeavor.

Larry:

2) What about people who put off wages for four years or more in order to attend college and make themselves more capable?

JJ

What about them? Good for them. They will have more opportunity. If a molecular business lacks certain skills it will do what is necessary to get qualified people even if it has to pay for the education of its workers.

Larry

3) What about people who sacrificed home time while working extra hours to make-it-work?

JJ

If they work extra hours they would get paid overtime or get extra stock.

Larry

4) Why does Stu bother?

JJ

I guess he needs the work. Walmart is not molecular so the situation is not comparable. He would have much more incentive in a molecular business.

Larry:

5) Whatever seems hard, whatever seems challenging, I go there.” Our music listening habits automatically reward excellence. Why would a Molecular Business act any different?

JJ

There would be more opportunity to take on challenges in a molecular business because it is controlled from the bottom up. Stu’s situation was the result of a top-down decision.

Larry

4) Does not The Molecular Relationship teach that elected leaders get higher pay than floor workers?

JJ

Everyone gets the same monetary salary but to supply incentives bonuses are given in stock and more desirable positions. The standard salary is decided by employees.

Most of these questions are covered in the archives.

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Richard:

I never before realized that the Molecular System is a pure form of socialism. Thanks.

JJ

The main difference with today’s socialist ideas though is the Molecular Business is completely voluntary and the power base is from the bottom up. The main problem with do-gooders today is they want to implement their ideas by force and if they do not work it is almost impossible to change or improve them so they will work.

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Incorporating the Molecular Business

Well, Adam, you were the only one who took a serious stab at answering the questions on the Molecular Business. Looks like you get a gold star.

Let us take a look at your response.

Question:

What ingredients of the Molecular Business is Dan not using that is creating so many problems for him?

Adam:

Seems fairly clear that ownership is missing, at least to the degree suggested in the Molecular Business model. There needs to be incentive for the higher skilled and more motivated employees – stock and benefits tied to performance.

Also, in a molecular business, the hierarchy and structure would require more democracy. Mr. Price would have to subject himself to the possibility that he could be voted into a different position within the company.

JJ

These are two good points and incorporating these would have helped the business. But there were two more significant ingredients. Can you figure out what they are?

Question

What results has Dan achieved that indicate that a Molecular Business could be very successful if done right?

Adam

He’s demonstrated a willingness to go against orthodoxy through his own free will. An existing power structure, does not easily surrender some of that power/control/wealth, especially without imposition/force from a greater power structure.

Mr. Price has at least demonstrated a spirit that is willing to relinquish some wealth/power in the interest of others. It’s an initiation of an idea that might get others thinking about how such a structure could be improved, to yield the best in profitability, accountability, excellence, self-sufficiency, cooperation, and benevolence. At a minimum, he seems to be trying to establish a viable balance between self-interest/improvement and good will/cooperative spirit.

JJ

What you say is true but what we are looking for in this question is the positive results he achieved which were:

(1) The idea attracted a lot of positive attention.

(2) Lots of people wanted to work there

(3) Those who did work there who accepted the idea had an increase of unity, cooperation and feeling of equality.

(4) They lost some customers but new ones signed up.

Question

What problem did occur for Dan that will probably have to be dealt with by a true Molecular Business?

Adam

I think it was a bit ambitious to start such a model using a “service industry” business. Service industry businesses are needed and useful, but they are a step removed from the tangible offerings of manufacturing and production. Since sound economics are based on supply and demand, then the demand will always be more easily captured, and supply increased/limited, if the user can better quantify/see the goods, and recognize the immediate need, imo. Service contracts are more susceptible to fluctuation and termination than contracts for manufactured goods.

I also think, assuming Mr. Price was truly sincere in his stated motivations, that he might have been better served by not making the increases public. I think he should have had his employees sign non-disclosure agreements before giving drastic raises. Word would probably get out, sooner or later, but no one would be willing to go completely public, and the “hint” of change would be better PR in the long run. He should have given himself more time to test the idea – perhaps 3-5 years, at least. Then he could go public afterwards, in order to become a model for others.

JJ

All of what you say is true and though I did say a manufacturing business would be best for the first model a larger service business could work.

There was a major problem mentioned in the article that the first molecular businesses will have to deal with.

Let us see who can find what it is.

 

Aug 5, 2015

We are still looking for two main ingredients of the Molecular Business not used by Dan Price. To this Ruth replies that older employees complain because of the pay equality and decision making is too centralized in Dan.

No that is not what I was looking for. Adam mentioned the need for more democracy and soul contact is not essential for the business model, though it would be helpful.

There are two core mistakes that Dan made not mentioned yet.

The last unsolved question is:

What problem did occur for Dan that will probably have to be dealt with by a true Molecular Business?

Ruth gives a hint in the right direction by saying, the “Beast principle.” But there was a problem that occurred because of the business, specifically mentioned in the article, and it did kind of surface because of the Beast Principle.

What was it?

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Equal Pay Problems

lwk quotes me as follows:

“[One of] the core ingredients of the Molecular Business, … is an equal salary for all.”

Then says, “The idea that on this earth it is an ideal to struggle for equal pay for all regardless of contribution does not make sense.”

JJ

For this to make sense we have to look at the end product of what the real struggle is about. It is not about any forced equality for equality’s sake. It is about the creation of abundance for all in every way, spiritually and materially.

If we create a society where each person has all that he needs for a happy life then who cares what the other guy makes? All are equal if all have everything, which is the principle behind the Kingdom of Heaven.

There are four objections against the equal pay idea.

(1) It seems unfair because those who work harder should get paid more.

Well, this does not happen now. The guy on the assembly line may work with twice the intensity as the CEO and get paid 5% as much.

Two guys may have the same job description yet the slacker may get paid more than the guy working like crazy.

This objection does not fly.

(2) It seems fair that those with higher skills should get paid more than the less skilled. Skills take money and time to develop. The engineer should get paid more than the assembly line guy.

This is not a problem dealing with hard work because the assembly line guy may work harder than the engineer. It is believed that different positions have different value and it is fair that they get different pay.

This makes sense from the normal business prospective, but the Molecular model is out of the normal box.

There are three powerful advantages to the equal pay idea as outlined in the Molecular Business.

(A) It inspires empathy, brotherhood, camaraderie and unity among the workers.

(B) Because the wage can be adjusted up or down with the need it allows the business to be extremely competitive. It can survive in hard times and thrive in good times.

(C) Instead of having an overpaid management, leaders will easily be drawn from the ranks allowing the saved money to go to the workers as a whole.

(3) Those with skills in demand will not take a pay cut and work for a Molecular Business.

One interesting thing that Dan demonstrated was that some skilled workers were attracted to his ideas more than the money itself. There are other draws to working in a place besides the money. If a worker is happy with his job, the people and the opportunity he will often work for less.

Also keep in mind that workers would get paid extra for overtime and those who contribute more value can be paid extra in stock.

(4) People need incentive and money is the best incentive.

As I said, there are other incentives, but let us supposed that the business needs a programmer who’s skill will easily get him a job at $200,000. Why would he work for a molecular business where he would have to take a big pay cut?

There are several ways the problem could be handled. The business could pay for the training of the skill for one or more of its present employees.

The second alternative is to offer stock in addition to the guy’s salary.

If that doesn’t work and the hiring of the expert is essential he could be hired as a contractor and paid whatever the demand is, just like you would hire some guy to mow your lawn at the going wage. He wouldn’t be an employee, but may turn into one if he likes the company and the people.

In my treatise on this I cover the need for incentive and how it is fulfilled on a number of levels. Until civilization reaches is next great stage of business evolution money will be a huge incentive because of the lack of it in many lives. When this lack is eliminated attitudes toward money and material things will be dramatically altered.

One of the things that is evolving to fill this need is robotics. As technology evolves we will eventually all be able to live like kings – if we do not blow ourselves up first.

The molecular business will not be for everyone, at least not until it is near universally accepted. If someone is happily employed at $200,000 a year, and is used to the lifestyle, then it would not make sense to him to take a big cash pay cut. The business is not a religious thing where, if you do not accept it, you will be judged unworthy or go to hell. Most molecular workers will completely understand the skilled guys reluctance to join them.

It is interesting that Dan had an avalanche of job applicants, indicating that a Molecular Business will have no lack of raw talent from which to choose.

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Equality

Not sure who this is addressed to but I will respond. I notice a number of posts lately that are difficult to tell who is being responded to.

Larry W

This is not about selfishness, it’s about fairness and motivation. We’ve seen throughout the history of the human race that people work hard and use their most creative juices to earn rewards for themselves. It’s basic human nature. Will you now say motivation of reward means nothing?

JJ

I am certainly not saying this. The Molecular Business has all kinds of motivation and reward built into it.

Larry

If I see an opportunity to put in some overtime so I can afford a guitar that I want, then should I be arbitrarily denied?

JJ

You can work overtime (if available) and get paid extra for it in the Molecular Business.

Larry:

If I do work extra but everyone gets the same reward, including those who did not lift a finger to earn it, then why should I do the extra work/effort/creativity?

JJ

In almost all businesses you will have a number of people doing the same job getting the same pay and some will be working much harder than others.

In a Molecular Business because you are judged from the bottom up you are much more likely to be rewarded with a promotion than in a top down business where the bosses favorite is usually promoted. If a person is too much a slacker he will be rejected by his fellow workers and be out of a job.

Larry

Are you saying this issue of basic fairness and human nature is not valid?

JJ

Of course not. No idea where you are getting this from what I have written.

Your problem with your previous boss treating you unfairly would be largely solved in the Molecular Business because your main judges would be your co-workers who know how hard you are really working.

Larry:

I believe in equal pay for equal work. But I do not believe in equal pay for unequal work.

JJ

There are two types of equality and inequality to be dealt with.

(1) Equality of effort. For instance, an assembly line guy may be making a greater effort and working harder than the CEO. Should this count for something?

Yes.

(2) Equality or inequality of skill or job importance.

Should this count for something?

Yes, again. First, the more skilled job has part of its reward built in. Being a computer programmer, knowing you are making a big difference, is much more rewarding than working on a boring assembly line.

In addition to doing more fun work, those with crucial skills are rewarded with more power, opportunity and stock. If that isn’t enough they can work as a contractor for extra cash.

The Molecular Business recognizes that material reward will be a necessary incentive for some time to come, but as abundance for all is manifested it will become less and less a factor.

In the coming age job satisfaction will be the important thing and that will come from the realization that the worker is assisting the greatest number of people that his talents can handle.

 

Aug 6, 2015

The Needs of the Many

lwk

If we create a society where each person has all that (he) needs then what motivation is there to excel? I can push the envelope in achievement or just slack off and do only much as I have to. What difference does it make? I still get paid the same.

JJ

Which situation is more conducive to happiness? Where the guy is struggling to make ends meet, care for his loved ones, and has to focus most of his attention on making money?

Or

He has his basic physical needs met today and feels comfortable that they will be met tomorrow?

I don’t know about you, but the closer I get to the second situation the happier and more fulfilled I am.

I believe it was General MacArthur who said something to the effect that we must fill a person’s belly before we can teach him any philosophy.

The bottom line is this. When a person is in a situation where he doesn’t have to worry about the basic needs of himself and loved ones he should be more, not less, motivated to accomplish something worthwhile. If not then he is devoid of imagination.

There are much more interesting things to do than wasting energy in worrying about making a living.

Yes, it’s true that some with free time will use it destructively, but the guy who is desperate for money is the more dangerous.

We as a civilization are rapidly advancing to that point where all the dreary labor will be replaced with technology of some kind. They are already working on robotics that will clean homes, tend bar, care for the elderly and replace many farm workers.

The time is not far distant when any job opportunity in production or general labor will be rare. Such a person will be managing technology.

Work opportunities have already made a major shift from production to service or technology of some kind. As our attention shifts so will our creative energy and our needs. Creative people will find new ways to make money in service and others will find new ways to enjoy themselves by being served.

As the physical needs of the many are filled the consciousness of humanity will shift toward equality, with the realization that the world does not consist of “us” and “them,” but we are all “us.”

When this point is reached then humanity will have reached a major turning point that will allow the consciousness of the whole to expand.

I do not know if I will ever have the power to create a Molecular Business in this life, but it is a blueprint for the future, and others will take us to it in bits and pieces if I am not able to incorporate the whole plan while here.

lwk

The end equation is not necessarily how hard or long you work, but what you produce. But then again, many who produce more do work longer and harder than their companions do.

JJ

My point about hard work was just one of several that has value. You are right, the true monetary value is based on the end product. In other words, the labor of some workers is of more value than others.

On the other hand, the value of one person’s soul compared to another is not.

This is why the inevitable direction of evolution is taking us toward equality on all levels.

Notice, that I say “equality” not sameness. As long as we maintain freedom, we will always be unique individuals directing our energies in different ways to find fulfillment. The equality of opportunity, evolving through free will, not force, will only enhance such fulfillment.

Even so, the Molecular Business makes concessions to the idea that some work is more important than others. Such people will be recognized, given positions of greater power and additional stock.

Then as civilization evolves the handling of the various qualities of labor may change.

lwk

The bottom line though is simply this. If you ideas about the Molecular Business work in a free and competitive environment then that is fair and right.

JJ

You are absolutely correct. If it turns out that any of the items in the plan do not work then they need to be changed or discarded until the business does work.

I personally believe that it will be much more efficient than the regular business model and prove to be able to outperform all competitors. We see evidence of this already. Since I have presented this idea almost three decades ago many business have incorporated a number of its precepts. Those who have, have been much more successful than those who have not.

For instance, locally, a small grocery chain called WINCO became employee owned and moved a couple steps toward being molecular. It went from a about a half dozen stores in 1999 to over 100 retail stores today and four distribution centers with 14,200 employees. No one locally can out price them, not even the giant Walmart. Imagine what they would e doing if they were 100% molecular.

I am not saying that any of the businesses moving toward being molecular have done so because of me. Instead, those who are sensitive to soul energies naturally pick up the next sep in evolution. The main advantage of someone creating the whole thing, as outlined in my treatise, is that it would speed things up.

By the way, no one has figured out yet the main thing that Dan did wrong.

 

Aug 7, 2015

The Welfare Factor

I made the statement to the effect that if a person’s basic needs are net that the situation will be more conducive to happiness and creativity than if they are not.

To which lwk replied:

There are a lot of people on some kinds of welfare today who certainly do have their _real_ basic needs met. They have housing, food, TVs, etc. and often barter their benefits for booze and drugs.

They don’t exactly seem motivated to accomplish much beyond finding more ways to get extra benefits. But their happiness is much diminished due to their envy of those with more and their politically induced feelings of being victims.

JJ

I was writing about those who are fortunate enough to labor for their money. When one does his share in the labor market and honestly earns enough to take care of his basic needs then he has taken care of one of the greatest obstacles to happiness in this physical reality.

Now those on some type of assistance who do manage to get enough to live on without having to work are often scamming the system (as noted by Clay), milking it for all they can get. The attitude of those looking for a free lunch, without any constructive participation on their part, is not conducive to happiness.

I have presented a plan in my book Fixing America that will solve many of the problems connected with welfare yet still take care of those truly in need.

To be able to do your part in taking care of the needs of you and your loved ones is certainly conducive to happiness.

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The Major Problem

Okay, I guess it is about time to look at the major factor that Dan missed from the Molecular Business treatise.

I think some here will kick themselves when I point this out because it was a factor that we have previously discussed quite a bit and when I do point it out I think that most will see that it is obviously correct.

Here is the major ingredient from the Molecular Business that Dan missed. Here is a quote from my book.

The idea is very simple and the seeds of its manifestation already surround us, but it has not demonstrated itself in business for one major reason: People in authority love the power it gives them, and they will use this power, at all costs, to keep their area of dominion secure. Since that authority is almost impossible to remove once an organization has been established, we will not see the established companies turning into Molecular Businesses. The first Molecular Businesses will be entirely new enterprises. Next we will see a number of faltering companies turning to it to save them from going under. Finally, after it has been proven to produce abundance, we will see the established businesses reluctantly turn to it. The reluctance will come from those who wish to hold onto their power over others.

Now Dan’s problem had not so much to do with the change in the authoritative structure as change itself and the change he made struck right at the heart of all. That important change was in how employees got paid and how much.

As I pointed out in numerous comments I have made in this subject – the Molecular Business requires so many changes that it would be almost impossible to use an existing business as a model for the first one as there would be too much resistance and too many problems created.

Jesus actually pointed out the principle behind this problem:

No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment, for the patch will pull away from the garment, making the tear worse. Neither do people pour new wine into old wineskins. If they do, the skins will burst; the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved. Matt 9:16-17 NIV

Taking new ideas and attempting to force them on to employees and owners of an existing company is indeed like putting new wine in old bottles (or wineskins – as was used in that day).

Dan’s brother didn’t risk his life savings with the idea that, once the business was successful, of switching over to an experiment in social engineering.

The employees, especially the ones with special skills, did not join with the idea that everyone would be paid the same wage.

Nether did the stockholders invest with the idea that the business would be making controversial changes in its operation.

Dan indeed verified the principle that you cannot put new wine in old wineskins and that the Molecular Business must begin from the ground floor up.

I cited the success of the local grocery company WINCO, which had incorporated a couple molecular principles with great success.

But they were incorporated at the beginning of their company and all employees and investors knew what they were getting into.

A true Molecular Business will not just incorporate one major change, as Dan tried to do, but numerous ones. Starting the first one using an existing business would be a Herculean task indeed. It will be difficult enough starting it from scratch, but at least this is a task that can be done.

In fact it will indeed be done at some time because this is the direction toward which evolution is heading.

The second major ingredient that Dan did not apply was in how the general wage would be determined. He alone decided on the $70,000 figure and picked it not because it would be good for the business but because that was the wage that seemed to be necessary to bring satisfaction to employees.

In the Molecular Business the general wage is not arbitrarily determined by the CEO, but is made with group approval and is adjusted up or down depending on the cash needed to keep the business functioning successfully.

The Molecular Business incorporates the Principle of Correction. If a process or plan does not work then changes are made until efficiency is achieved.

 

Aug 8, 2015

Myth or Not?

The theory is that behind many elements of mythology lies some true story on which it was based. As the science of archaeology advances and more ancient writings are discovered we are finding much supportive evidence that this was true.

So, does this mean that there was a real Hercules who was half god and half man?

Maybe not literally, but there was probably a powerful human being who seemed to be as much god as human on which the legend was based.

At one time the Iliad by Homer was considered to be pure fantasy. Until 1884 when German amateur archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann upset the applecart and unearthed the real city of Troy.

That would be comparable to finding the city of Camelot today.

This caused many questions to surface. If Troy was a real city in history then how about Helen of Troy, the Trojan Horse and the gods themselves mentioned? Maybe Achilles and Zeus were real people on which the story was based.

Also mentioned by Homer were Jason and the Argonauts. Surely the Golden Fleece was pure myth, right?

Not so fast. They have recently found evidence that a real golden fleece existed in ancient times. Here’s the story:

Jason and the Argonauts’ mythic quest for the Golden Fleece took inspiration from an actual voyage sometime between 3,300 and 3,500 years ago, scientists say. Jason went from Greece to a kingdom near the Black Sea renowned for using sheepskins to collect gold grains and flakes from mountain streams.

Go HERE for the full story

It is interesting that when Marco Polo published his travels to China many people thought that the stories were pure myth. It took some time to verify that his travels to that strange place known as China really occurred.

And how about King Arthur, Merlin, Excalibur and Camelot? Were they real?

Some give a knee jerk dismissal, but again, not so fast. A lot of serious scholars think there is enough evidence to indicate there is some truth behind this legend just as been the case for many others.

Here is an interesting story giving ten clues to the real King Arthur.

LINK

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Good comments Blayne. I certainly would not vouch for the literal truth of any of the King Arthur stories though I think that King Arthur, Merlin and some of the story were roughly based on real legendary characters from history lost. It is entirely possible that the original characters had different names.

I have discovered testimony doing regressions that some of the characters of the period were real.

The thing that impresses me about the story is the great symbolism. It has better allegory for teaching than the Bible.

Here are some of my previous comments:

All have heard about the magic sword that Arthur was supposed to have pulled from a stone. The stone was a symbol of “the stone which the builders rejected” [Matthew 21:42] or the Christ. The sword called Excalibur, was a symbol of the commission given to King Arthur, or the “keys of the Kingdom” [Matthew 16:19] It also symbolized the sword wielded by Christ in Revelation 19:15 “that with it he should smite the nations”.

The Holy Grail in the legend symbolizes the “fruits” of the Kingdom of God that they were searching for and attempting to produce at that time. It is also a symbol of the presence of Christ, for when the Kingdom is established the Master will appear. Legend has it that only one or possibly several knights were worthy to see the grail indicating that most knights, valiant as they were, were not prepared for their Master.

Near the end of Arthur’s life he gave his sword, Excalibur, to Sir Bedivere and told him to throw it into a nearby lake. Bedivere was reluctant to obey, but finally gave into Arthur’s demand and heaved it into the water. It was said to have been caught by the hand of the Lady of the Lake. The hand waved the sword three times and then disappeared under the water. The hand symbolizes the rightful owner of the sword, The Christ, and the fact that he waved the sword three times is symbolic of the three time periods when the sword was to be wielded. The first time was in the Jewish kingdom from the days of Moses. The second was from the days of Christ to King Arthur, and the third wave was an indication of a future time.

The legends tell us that another Merlin and King Arthur will arise with another Excalibur and blaze the trail of glory peace and prosperity. How much of the above legends are actually true is inconsequential here. What is important is that they represent symbols which portray real truth. After Excalibur was lost then was fulfilled the scripture which says: “And the woman (The Kingdom of God) fled into the wilderness, where a thousand two hundred and threescore days.” Revelation 12:6

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 17

This entry is part 19 of 73 in the series 2015

July 27, 2015

Handling Duality

Clay:

I can tell you from some profound experiences during meditation that inside and outside are illusions. There is no inside or outside I swear I am not being contrarian this if from actual experience.

When you can observe your body from outside of yourself, your consciousness is definitely itself not inside or outside. It can be everywhere.

JJ

Over the years we have had a number of people come here who have had a similar experience and because of it feel they have an agenda to enlighten us because we use some of the principles of duality in our discussion.

Because we do not immediately endorse their vocabulary they often become rude, insulting and attack us as if we were a bunch of spiritual hayseeds.

We have found this quite strange since they describe their experience to which they wish to lead us toward as being great peace and love. Yet they come here with a chip on their shoulder bringing no peace and showing no love.

Obviously, this “Great Void”, as it is often described, is far from any ultimate experience, for anything near the ultimate would also include a manifestation of great love which is a main part of the lesson for which we came.

Nevertheless, the oneness experience is real and we learn from all experiences. The problem is that which is registered by the concrete mind often falls short of understanding all that is involved.

So, is all of the duality of this world just an illusion that we need to discard? Should we cease from speaking of hot and cold, up and down, male and female etc?

It is true that all the worlds of form are created by illusion. As scientists examine physical matter and go smaller and smaller the only real thing they can find is wavelengths. The reason is that all form is created from wavelengths.

And what creates the wavelength?

I have called this the “Guitar String Principle.”

If you take a single guitar string and look at it, how many strings do you see?

You see one string.

If you then pluck it so it creates sound how many strings do you see?

Generally you will see three strings. One seems to be up, another down and the third in the middle.

Are there really three strings?

No. There is only one string. The three strings are an illusion.

How about the sound coming from the string? Is that illusion?

It seems to have been created through a principle of illusion, but the experience of the sound is very real to me.

Why?

I’m not sure. Maybe because the original string is real.

Maybe so.

In the beginning all was one, the one Great Life, we call God, the home in which we all dwelt. There was no form, but just a singularity, or a single string, so to speak. God plucked the string, or breathed outwardly, manifesting sound, or The Word which created the universe of form and duality.

Since duality is created by illusion does this mean the principle is not real?

No. The principle is real because duality had to exist within the mind of God for it to manifest. It is true that the string is one, but He who created sound from the string had duality as part of his being. Duality had to be a part of his reality before he could manifest form and duality. You cannot create that which is not inherent in you.

From a higher point of view complete oneness is illusion, just as duality seems to be illusion to some seekers here.

Duality and oneness are part of a great cycle used by the Source of all things in the process of eternal creation and creativity.

Yes, it can be argued that duality here is illusion and should be ignored, but what cannot be ignored is the reality of the experience. If you ignore heat and place your hand on a hot stove you will experience pain, which is real at the time you are experiencing it.

Dreams are also considered to be created by illusion, but if you dream that you lost your true love you would feel real sorrow that may linger after you wake up. That feeling was real even though the dream was created by apparent illusion.

Some of those who are too far into he nonduality idea disconnect themselves from this world to the extent that they do not have the experiences from which they came here to learn.

While in this world, up is up and down is down. Hot is hot and cold is cold. The rules may be different in other planes, but, while here, life is much better dealing with the rules of the game.

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Clay:

My biggest critique of your use of duality and dualitic language is dividing humanity into a light and dark brotherhood.

JJ

And my biggest critique of you is how you mischaracterize my teachings. I do not think you can produce a quote from my millions of words where I divide humanity into light and dark brotherhoods.

What would be much more productive is to find some actual words I have written and then assess them.

Clay:

I personally do not believe in any dark brotherhood, but have encountered dark entities, but as I have mentioned, they are not people, they are thought forms that exist due to human thoughts, they do not possess any real (ontological existence).

JJ

These dark entities you note represent the Dweller on the Threshold of which I have written a lot.

Clay:

I think separating humans into light and dark brotherhoods is incredibly dangerous and potentially leads to great abuses.

JJ

I haven’t done this so your point is moot.

Clay:

I do no think it is useful to personal or societal growth. The only dark brotherhood anyone should be opposing is the darkness that resides within our own hearts.

JJ

Now you are moving into crazy talk. So if some guy is raping your wife you would sit in a corner and examine the darkness within you? Sounds pretty silly.

Clay:

It becomes far too easy to dismiss the arguments or even demonize those one disagrees with as being either under the influence or directly working for this dark brotherhood and this has been a technique of authoritarian regimes since civilization began.

JJ

You have a point there but this does not apply to me and is not the direction I take. I have never dismissed any argument in my life just because it seemingly comes from a dark side. As I said, if you are going to argue with me you need to ague with what I say and teach, not with what I do not say and teach.

Clay:

I try to avoid all division of humanity into forces of good and forces of evil.

JJ

I’d divide them into those who are quite misled on some true principles and others who are less misled.

Clay:

I do not think America is good or evil, I think we do good and evil actions, same with every other country.

JJ

I would agree, but I think you see a lot more evil in America than most.

Clay:

Each action should be viewed independently, and not ever granted the assumption we are right because we are America.

JJ

I would think that everyone on the Keys agrees with you here, just not with your intensity as you seem to see evil under every rock, despite the fact that you are against dividing us unto good and evil.

Clay:

I readily admit, I am not a patriot because I think Patriotism is a false religious system.

JJ

I merely see patriotism as giving my country the benefit of the doubt. It does indeed seem that you do not do this but go the extreme in demonizing it.

Clay:

I do not believe in my country good or bad, my party good or ill, or my religion good or ill.

JJ

I do not think anyone on the Keys has this attitude of blind acceptance of anything. That is why they are here. However, they are not going to demonize this or any other country without evidence and then balancing it against the whole.

Clay:

Jesus told me to love my neighbor as myself, not just my countrymen or fellow church goers, or those who hold the same ideology as me.

JJ

If you think that I do not agree with you here then that is perplexing indeed. You do however seem to really demonize me because I think differently than you in some matters. You are largely mistaken though because you do not seem to understand much of what I have taught.

Clay:

So while I may disagree with someone or even a party, I will never label them as evil, ever.

JJ

You are not very convincing here. You may not have used evil in relation to Bush, conservatives or America, but you really paint them as evil with the brush you use. A rose is a rose by any other name.

Clay:

Not even Hitler and Stalin. They are my brothers as well, misguided without a doubt, but not part of some evil cabal in war against the light. Most of your teachings I really have not problem with, but your heavy dualism about a dark and light brotherhood I find incredibly problematic and potentially dangerous. I do admit that this source of disagreement tends to bias me against some of your teachings that normally I would have little problem with an possibly agreement with.

JJ

It is evident that you have an extreme bias against me and much of it is unfounded.

I’ll soon write a post or two about my real views on light and dark with the hope of correct vision. Even though we have covered this many times a refresher course in new wording may shed additional light.

 

July 28, 2015

Light and Dark

Clay, I know you said your wife was reading the Immortal books I sent you, but have you actually read them all?

I hope you realize that to make an interesting story that you have to make a strong division between the good guys and the bad guys, the good and the evil so to speak. If not you may have been upset at George Lucas. Even though he is a political liberal as you his Star Wars stories illustrated some great truths, that wouldn’t have been possible without the great contrast.

A number of the encounters with dark forces in the books are based on true personal experiences, but with changed time frames and circumstances.

I have come close to the point of death in struggling against dark entities several times so I know whereof I speak. Fortunately, they do not have power just to point their fingers and destroy those who oppose them, but they can gather their forces and, when certain windows are open, unleash them on those who they think may be a problem.

Yes, I do believe in a Brotherhood of Light and a Dark Brotherhood, but these unseen organizations are not divisions of the human race. The masses of humanity know nothing about them and are not a part of them. The Brotherhood of Light are members of the fifth kingdom on this planet, the Masters of Wisdom, whose consciousness belongs to the Kingdom of God. Regular human mortals are members of the fourth kingdom.

The Dark Brotherhood consists of very intelligent beings, some of which are in the physical and some in etheric bodies. Paul spoke of these when he said,

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph 6:11-12

These are not mindless demons but intelligent entities that were once on the path of light and love but took a wrong turn on the path of selfishness.

There are two groups of people who do not accept a form of light or dark brotherhoods.

The first are the atheists who do not accept anything existences beyond the normal rage of perception.

The second believe in many spiritual realities beyond the physical, but are either just turned off by the idea of good and evil or have bought into some type of non duality teaching.

This second group needs to look at the logic of the reality that we know and apply it to what is generally not so well known. In other words, to find the truth we need to examine how things work in this world and then apply it to intelligences in the unseen worlds.

Here are some points of truth about humanity that are beyond refute.

(1) Wherever humans gather there will be created various hierarchies. A governing hierarchy will definitely manifest creating rules and structure. This will be followed by spiritual, business and social ones – all subject to the first.

Conclusion: It would make no sense that such hierarchies exist here consistently among humans and not in the unseen worlds. Wherever intelligent beings gather there will be hierarchy, on earth or in heaven, or wherever they may be.

(2) There are quite a number of natural divisions that occur among humanity such as:

  1. Those who believe in God and the supernatural and those who do not.
  2. Conservatives and liberals
  3. Givers and takers
  4. Responsible and irresponsible
  5. Leaders and followers
  6. Those who want to control others for their own purposes and those who desire maximum freedom for the human spirit.

Conclusion: If there are such ubiquitous divisions among all self conscious life here then it stands to reason that intelligent life, unseen to us, would also have divisions. Logic tells us that the closer we as a people get to the truth the more we will see eye to eye, but it appears that we as yet have a long way to go.

(3) The prime division among humanity that causes conflict is (F) and revolves around the Principle of Freedom. Those who violate this principle range from the person of good intention suggesting some unnecessary rule to the tyrant who orders complete submission with the option of prison or death. The majority supports a violation of this principle to some degree but will resist a major restriction when it affects their own lives.

Conclusion: We see these two poles manifest in various countries. North Korea is the best example of one that violates he Principle of Freedom and seeks for ultimate control of groups and individuals. Other groups such as the Taliban and ISIS are not far behind.

Numerous Western governments support freedom as an ideal though they are far from perfect in execution.

(4) Concerning the two sides of the freedom issue it is natural to place one on the side of good and the other evil or to classify one as enlightened (light) and the other as dark. Some resist labels because they seem to think they change something. They change nothing. A rose is a rose by any other name, but we do need to use names and labels to communicate correctly and the words should reflect reality as much as possible.

Conclusion: Good and evil are awkward words to use because the user goes by his own definition. For instance, in North Korea going against the iron will of the Dear Leader is seen to be evil. This view is seen as ridiculous to people in democratic nations who see such control as evil.

On the other hand, light and dark are quite appropriate. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the satellite photographs of North and South Korea from space. Take a look.

LINK

North Korea is almost completely dark and South Korea and the free nations are full of light.

Light is naturally associated with the freedom of the human spirit. He who functions in freedom feels light, light hearted, and seeks greater light and knowledge than he who is oppressed and controlled. Those who are controlled are often pressured to not seek greater light and knowledge or are punished for using it.

(5) If we realistically associate freedom with light and excess control with darkness we find that there are indeed organizations dedicated to both sides physically existing on the earth. North Korea and other organizations would definitely be classified as dark and others leaning to the light.

Conclusion: Where a duality manifests names must be applied to identify the two poles so understanding can be communicated. Those who refuse to name refuse to communicate effectively. Instead of light and dark we could use a number of different labels, but a rose is a rose under any other name. Light and dark are a lot more appropriate than many alternatives such as damaged/whole, good/evil, misled/on the right path, etc.

(6) We see then that there are organizations (we could even call them brotherhoods) dedicated to light and dark, freedom and control existing right here on this physical earth viewed with our very eyes and heard with our physical ears.

Conclusion: Since there are indeed rulers supporting the dark side of freedom right here on the earth, seen on the news regularly, then it stands to reason that Paul was correct that there does indeed exist “rulers of darkness” in the seen and unseen worlds that we must struggle against.

Paul also spoke of an organization called “the body of Christ” as one that represented light and love completing the duality and in the unseen world the Book of Hebrews speaks of “the general assembly and church of the firstborn.”

If there are those representing light and dark all round us in the world that we see then it stands to reason that the same could exist, but on a higher turn of the spiral in the unseen.

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Source Material

Clay:

DK I do not believe is any sort of Tibetan Master as her/his alleged teachings just resemble typical western esoteric occult teachings and bear zero resemblance to any high level Tibetan theology or practices that have since come out since Baileys time.

JJ

You said you read around 100 pages of the free Bailey book I recommended. This statement makes me doubt even that. On the other hand, you recommended to me Meditations on the Tarot which I had to go out of my way and purchase. Instead of giving it a half hearted effort (in order to understand your belief system) I read the whole thing which was 665 pages of small print. As I told you it contained some good material. But what I did not do, in an attempt to be courteous was not compare it to the Bailey writings. Because of your jaundice eye expressions toward Bailey I will now give a wider view which is this.

If this is the best book you can come up to illustrate enlightenment then you need to search further. The book is fine for beginners who are just starting their search, but it brings no new light on any principle. If it does perhaps you can point it out. It gives lots of data that may or may not be true. The advantage of dealing with principles is that they are easily recognized as truth by the soul.

One page of the Bailey material has more enlightenment that the whole book of 665 pages you recommended. The problem with the Bailey writings for those who just scratch the surface of things is that there is a lot of depth that can only be fully accessed by deep contemplation. Those who do not want to focus will just dismiss their value.

When you first came on board you talked about how the ceremonies in the Catholic Church had great meaning for you. I see little value in them but thought that if they have meaning for you that is fine. If I had your attitude that you express toward me I would have belittled your ceremonies and written pages about how silly and unreasonable they are.

The difference between you and me is I could make a good case of this, but you cannot make a good case against the Bailey writings or my own. You never quote them but just nebulously attack them as a whole.

Clay

So part of the problem again is the source material that JJ and I utilize. I rely on te great mystics from Buddhism, Hinduism, Sufism, Taoism, and Christianity,

JJ

I study a wide variety of materials, but my source of truth is the soul. It matters not whether the material was written by God or the devil himself; the soul cannot be fooled and can find truth anywhere.

Many of my teachings are found in no book on the planet. I just do not read someone else and copy and paste or just put my spin on it. I attempt to tune into my soul and write under its guidance.

Clay:

However, first and foremost, I value critical thought above supporting any belief I hold.

JJ

And I place great value on critical thought. Any truth, even those not found in any book, must eventually pass the test of critical thinking.

All truth will pass the test of critical thinking, but critical thinking alone overlooks many things that are true.

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Finding the True Teachings

Clay:

JJ please refute that Bailey presents anything resembling esoteric Buddhism from Mahamudra Tantra and Vjarana Tantra and I will retract my statements about Bailey.

JJ

There is very little overlap in the two teachings. The teachings you mention have nothing about the rules of White Magic in the book you started. DK teaches an enormous amount about the Seven Rays which are not covered in the Tantra teachings, nor are his teachings about the hierarchies, the brotherhoods, esoteric astrology, esoteric psychology, cosmic fire, Sirius, the reappearance of Christ and many other things.

What is there about the two teachings you consider to be of such strong resemblance???

Clay

No I have not read most of her works but from what I did read, it resembled Western Esoterism of which Bailey was a student and bore no semblance to esoteric Buddhism, which Bailey was not familiar with.

JJ

Who cares if it resembles the east or the west? I only care if the writings register with my soul no matter where they are from.

Clay

Based upon this judgment I took DK to not be a real “master” but a product of Baileys subconscious.

JJ

I’d like you to show me any more profound writings. Your book on the Tarot was kindergarten by comparison. All you have done here is tear apart. Do you have anything edifying to present here that can be of value to those treading the path?

Please do not respond by giving a list of books. Anyone can do that.

Clay

Baileys teachings seems derived almost entirely from Theosophy, western Occultism, and very little on true Tibetan esoterisim, again which is only now starting to come out.

JJ

You overlook the most important attribute of a true seeker. He doesn’t ask “by what authority?” Instead he runs teachings by his soul and goes by what registers as true, no matter what the source.

Bailey’s writings comment on a number of points from Theosophy and then expands on them, but mostly adds new material not found there.

Clay:

My guess is that had Bailey actually channeled a Tibetan Master, he would have had some access to these, at the time, unknown teachings, but it seems very much in line with what the general state of knowledge was regarding Tibetan Buddhism at her time.

JJ

The writings have little resemblance to Tibetan Buddhism at the time. Most of the teachings are found nowhere else and do not resemble anything I have found east or west.

Clay:

Since most of your teachings seem to rely upon Bailey, Theosophy, and Smith, I think it is fair to say that your theology and cosmology is derived from these systems, which again, I do not consider trustworthy.

JJ

I quote sources now and then and elaborate on them but my writings rely on communion with my own soul and are found in no book. Of the millions of words of teachings I have in the archives written by my they all are either new or present an expanded way of interpreting the old.

Instead of just discounting things because they do not have the proper credentials for you why not trust your own inner soul to guide you to the truth?

Clay:

You are a nice guy again JJ, but you like me are not chosen, not special, and not a danger to the dark. It is a just a phase of development and you have no special mission to the world. If you want to teach, by all means teach, but drop the messiah act.

JJ

You have pointed out a number of times how I am not special, not chosen, not a messiah etc. Why do you make such unfounded inflammatory insinuations of my thinking with no basis in fact? Perhaps the thing that differentiates me from most other spiritual teachers is that I make no such claims about myself and have stated this dozens of times, yet you, time and time again, try to take me down a notch insinuating I cling to specialness.

Please, please, please, argue with what I say. Not with what I do not say. I do not like to waste time defending myself against something I do not say, do, or believe.

Also, you never responded to my logic that if supporters of light and dark exist in this realm then, it is most probably they exist in others. Is human thinking so different from the rest of the universe that we are the only ones who have supporters and opponents of freedom?

In addition, you never confirmed that you actually read my books I sent you.

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Clay:

Also, these Internet forums are amazing. So far I have met , James the brother of Jesus, a person under discipleship to the beloved apostle John and a representative of the brotherhood of light, and the amazing Brown Brothers who have somehow discovered the key to eternal physical existence based upon their understanding of the Bible. Nope, no exaggerated egos on the Internet.

JJ

You are being unjust here. You cannot find anywhere that I have made the claims you falsely accuse me of.

Please argue with what I say, not with what I do not say.

It is interesting that in arguing with you that I quote your exact words, but when you argue with me you just throw out whatever you think I think.

Clay:

Lol. I might act arrogant, but I definitely am much more humble in my claims.

JJ

Yeah, and this comes from the guy who just told us he saw Jesus and knows the rest of us are wrong because he is special enough to have gone beyond duality to merge with the absolute – beyond duality.

Clay:

Also be careful about simply registering truth through your soul, we are absolutely best at deceiving ourselves. We are the best liars to ourselves. That is why I always seek conform my truths, not just accept them because they feel satisfying.

JJ

It sounds like you have never had a soul experience for what you describe is someone who receives from his emotional nature which indeed is deceptive. The soul, or your Higher Self, is the closest thing to infallibility and mine has never led me astray yet – though I have really questioned it at the time.

The soul is much more reliable than conclusions derived from critical thought but in the end always agrees with logic and reason. Truth s always reasonable.

Clay:

Again, I absolutely loved the teachings of Doctor Emoto and I wanted very much to believe him, it just turns out he is a charlatan, but I could have ignored all the evidence against him because his teachings felt “true” to me, or maybe I just wanted to believe them? Always watch out for confirmation bias, it is a subtle foe.

JJ

My soul never confirmed that Emoto was accurate though it does confirm that one’s thoughts can leave subtle impressions on water and other elements and there is some truth behind the Catholic belief in holy water.

Clay:

Also JJ, not to be rude, but what exactly do you teach that is not taught anywhere else on the planet? I have not come across anything you have written that I have not read elsewhere before.

JJ

Most days I teach something that has not been taught before. Did you read my post just this morning on Light and Dark?

Where else have you seen such an argument presented for the existence of light and dark beyond the physical?

The idea presented is that that there is definitely light and dark on this planet and it exists here in many forms. Then by the Law of Correspondences it logically must exist in non physical spheres.

The six points giving reasoning for this conclusion are found nowhere else.

The statement, “Those who refuse to name refuse to communicate effectively,” is a thought I have seen nowhere else and this is just one average post.

On a deeper level perhaps the most profound new teaching I have given out is The Molecular Relationship.

Other interesting ones are:

The gathering principle

The Grand Tour in Book Four of the Immortal gives a view of the microcosm, macrocosm and time not found anywhere else.

Teachings on the beast.

The interpretation of the Book of Revelation and Daniel Chapter Two much different than any other writer.

The teachings on the value of principles being the language of the soul and their values in pursuing the truth.

The Song of the 144,000

The interpretation of the name of Jesus Christ.

The Molecular Business

Molecular Politics

Project Peace and Goodwill

The male-female charges and their cycles

The meaning of the twelve fruits of the tree of life

The mystery of 1+1=1

The Keys of knowledge, numerous new principles and hundreds of other things.

I am answering this not to proclaim specialness as you claim, but merely supplying facts you asked for. The fact that I have writings that I believe to be helpful is no reason to meanly accusing me of having a Messiah complex. Many writers think they have produced something helpful for mankind and want to see them circulated and understood.

There are a lot of teachings out there I haven’t read but rarely do I teach something that I believe to be new that I find clearly explained anywhere else.

To me this is a testimony of the power of soul contact and my wish is that the new teachings inspire others to believe they can achieve the same thing.

Clay

Again JJ this seems to be your ego wanting to be very special again. I suggest again, go and read Saint John of the cross and Theresa of Avila, they both discuss your phase of spiritual development…

JJ

And what stage of development are you in most holy and wise and special one? Perhaps you could drop a few crumbs of truth for the rest of us?

I’ve read all Tolle’s works and was not impressed as you seem to be. His explanation of the pain body was taught in much more usable form by L. Ron Hubbard in the Fifties. Hubbard called it the Reactive Body.

Clay

If you have any proof of any dark brotherhood I am all ears,

JJ

The Law of Correspondences presents pretty solid evidence.

Your only argument against them is dead mystics and you don’t even quote what any say about the matter. You just expect us to believe that all back you up. You were wrong about Krishna backing up your beliefs, for he was an advocate of war to Ajuna. Oh, and you had a common mystical experience and that gives you more authority than the rest of us.

Clay

But there is no literal dark brotherhood or lord of darkness. Not even Hitler, or Stalin, or Genghis Kahn. There has never been any secret brotherhood on either side guiding humanity or opposing it.

JJ

And we should believe you why?

Because you say so. You supply no evidence you are right. Outside of Hitler and maybe Genghis Kahn most other bad guys were just thugs and pawns.

The thugs may seem as dangerous to the casual observer but Hitler was he only tyrant who had power to set up a kingdom that would enslave mankind for a thousand years as he openly stated.

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To Clay – When accusing me of any claims I made you need to refer to my non fiction writings. In any story the author tries to make the hero bigger than life.

In all I make no unusual claim about my writings or myself. My claim is that they are put out there for people to read and run by their own souls. If their souls verify any parts of them fine, and if not fine. The only authority used is the power of the words themselves. I do not claim to be a messiah, a great soul reincarnated that must be believed, or that my words are approved by Jesus, God or whatever. I do not even give mystical experiences as proof that I am correct as you have done.

You come across a really nit picky in your unjust accusations based on my fictionalized books and your bias.

Clay

So when it comes to the reality of your dark brotherhood and your cosmologies, Ockhams razor would indicate that Jung and Campbell’s approach that these are subconscious manisfestations and not super natural entities are at work.

JJ

Jung is an odd example for you to give since he had visions of Jesus and Elijah and channeled an entity called Philemon. He was often seen talking with this invisible entity by passing people.

I found Campbell quite boring and uninspiring.

I assume you are referring to Occam’s razor. So are you saying that this principle disproves the reality of higher beings and realities. Were you lying then when you told us of your mystical experiences and meeting Jesus? Your use of this in arguing against me would also discount your belief system so it appears you are attacking your own beliefs here.

Occam’s Razor tells us that the simplest, least complicated answer is generally to be the most trusted.

What I have written on the brotherhood is the simplest because it is in harmony with the Law of Correspondences. A simple analogy usually points to the simplest answer.

Clay

You claim to be a big believer in logic, well DKs system iviokates fundamental principles in logic by his almost limitless numbers of supernatural beings and levels and masters he proposes.

JJ

You sound like an atheist here. Are you saying that you do not believe in an afterlife composed of supernatural beings? If so I am amazed that you regularly attend a church that believes in all kinds of supernatural beings and realms.

Clay

So ask is it logical to presume the existence of so many supernatural entities, which flies in direct opposition to Ockhams razor.

JJ

Occam’s Razor would only questionably apply here if you are an atheist and reject, God, higher worlds and an afterlife. If one accepts the existence of unseen worlds then Occam’s Razor would lead one to accept the teachings I support.

Clay,

I would also like you to address how Krisnamurti is devastating to theosophy’s claims of Hidden masters, as he being their child prodigy and chosen world teacher of the theosophical movement, repudiated the Theosophy society, and all hidden masters as being non-existent. If you have not read Krisnamurti, he repudiates almost everything that theosophy teaches and he was raised inside the theosophy movement and chosen to be their “visible master”. I think he is devastating to theosophy claims.

JJ

I’ve always thought that the Theosophists were wrong about Krishnamurti

Clay

Also, JJ tried to argue based upon logic based upon earthly hierarchies, but a basic rule of logic is Ockhams razor, in that one does not insert supernatural beings where natural explanations suffice.

JJ

If you are an atheist and discount the higher worlds then you may have a point. If you are going to use this argument you should cease from telling us how you met Jesus and the Absolute beyond duality.

 

July 29, 2015

More on Duality, Dark and Light

Clay:

Alright JJ I will permanently demolish your argument of a dark brotherhood with your only valid point, the law of correspondences.

JJ

Ohhh, I am so scared. …And surprised you noted that I have a valid point. Progress perhaps?

Clay:

There is no such thing as darkness, it has no existence ontologically. It is simply the absence of existence or in this case light, it is not a something, it is a nothing, therefore unreal, non-existent.

JJ

Look up in the sky at the darkness between the stars. Why do you not see light when there is light there? When astronauts are in space the space around them is bathed with the sun’s light, but no light is seen. In the distance wherein there are trillions of rays of light from the sun only darkness is seen.

If darkness is only caused by absence of light then space should be full of visible light, and not be dark, because space is full of light. It is not until light falls upon form and there is a contrast between light and dark that light can be seen.

Neither light or dark has any meaning without both of them being in existence.

Clay:

Same with cold, it is the absence of heat, it is not an existent being.

JJ

Who in the world says heat is an existent being?

Hot and cold are caused by the frequency of the vibration of matter. The higher the vibration, or the wavelength created, the hotter it gets and it gets colder with a low frequency. Both hot and cold are caused by the frequency of the vibration which corresponds to up and down. If it goes up it gets hotter and if it goes down it gets colder. To say there is no cold or hot is to say there is no up or down. Cold and hot, up and down must both be here for either to exist and they are both here because we live in a universe of duality.

To say there is no possibility of a dark brother is to say there is no such thing as a being of light.

In this world of duality all the opposites are relative to some defined point. For hot and cold we could say that point is 68 degrees F. For up and down you could pick the point at sea level.

The same goes for light and dark as far as our application goes. We have to pick a point that divides the two. That point is the realization of the principle of freedom. The further you get from this the darker will be the mind and the closer you get the greater will be the light manifest.

If we have beings with a near perfect understanding who apply the principle then we must have the possibility of the existence of others who do not embrace this and are in darkness, or do not see that it should be applied to all on an equal opportunity basis.

Now in the ancient past humans did not have a well defined concept of maximum freedom so the defined point that divided light and dark was in a different place. Just as some may place the division between hot and cold at zero degrees F we used to have a different dividing point between light and dark, good and evil. It used to be that submission to authority was the side of light and rejection was the dark.

Now we have moved our point of reference, that which is considered light and dark has changed. Moving toward the light is now moving toward greater freedom. Moving towards blind submission to authority is now the path of darkness.

To say there is not Brotherhood of Light or Darkness is to say that there is no one joined together to support either freedom or strong control that takes it away.

Again, you make no sense.

Clay:

Game, set, match. Your dark brotherhood is a nothing, they are not real, just like the darkness you claim they represent.

JJ

Dream on. I just destroyed your false premise.

Clay

Also you keep telling me to believe in a dark brotherhood because you say so

JJ

Completely false. I do not care what you believe. I’m only talking about my least favorite subject (dark brothers) because you incessantly bring it up again and again as one possessed with the idea.

Clay:

and I say I will when you supply proof of their existence.

JJ

Turn on the news. You’ll see lots of people supporting the suppression of freedom. The only unknown to the many is how high the support of this idea goes.

Clay

I long ago gave up believing anything just on someone’s say so.

JJ

Yet you tell us you do not believe in dark brothers because of what others (mystics) say.

Clay:

It also does not line up with any of my personal experience.

JJ

Sounds like you are saying that your personal experience must have searched out all lives on all planes and found no organization anywhere that would suppress freedom for their own selfish ends.

What a guy.

Here is the personal experience of my Great Great Grandfather from his journal as an early LDS missionary that the Absolute didn’t tell you about:

“The prospect in London at that time was the darkest it had ever been in since entering the vineyard; but the Lord was with us, and we were not discouraged. On Sunday we met with the Saints three times at Brother Corner’s, read the Book of Mormon, gave instruction, and broke bread unto them. We had a good time, though there were only about half a dozen present. I felt the spirit bear testimony that there would be a work done in London.

“Having retired to rest in good season, I fell asleep and slept until midnight, when I awoke and meditated upon the things of God until 3 o’clock in the morning; and, while forming a determination to warn the people in London and by the assistance and inspiration of God to overcome the power of darkness, a person appeared to me, whom I consider was the prince of darkness. He made war upon me, and attempted to take my life. As he was about to overcome me I prayed to the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, for help. I then had power over him and he left me, though I was much wounded. Afterwards three persons dressed in white came to me and prayed with me, and I was healed immediately of all my wounds, and delivered of all my troubles.

Wilford Woodruff By Matthias F. Cowley, Page 130

So, by your thinking, he suffered physical wounds just because there was darkness inside of him. Does not compute.

Clay:

Also, Jiddu Krishna Murti (the chosen world teacher of global theosophy , totally repudiated theosophy and the existence of any hidden masters and he was supposed to be the first visible master selected by theosophy. Again, I asked you to address how damaging Krisna Murti is to theosophical ideas of hidden masters such as DK as he claims that they do not exist. I would say he is my best evidence against your claims as the golden child of the theosophical movement totally rejected it. So why should I believe anything about channeled masters and esoteric dark brotherhoods?

JJ

He certainly was not damaging to any teaching I support. He had a falling out with the Theosophy of that time, which I probably would have too in the same situation. Instead of repudiating the existence of masters he supported it. Here are a couple quotes:

We all believe that the Masters exist, that they are somewhere, and are concerned about us ; but this belief is not living enough, not real enough to make us change.

Even though their existence be a fact, it is of no importance; for to understand you must be independent, you must stand by yourself, completely naked, stripped of all security.

He was born after HPB died so he could give no first hand testimony of any contact she had.

Clay

Also JJ you are stuck between the purgative and the illuminative state.

JJ

You do not seem to have a clue about my consciousness so if I were you I would follow the advice of Jesus and cease from judgment that may comde back to haunt you.

Clay

Finally I find it very amusing that you condemn me for relying upon “dead mystics” but you rely upon a channeled mystic from a dead channeler.

JJ

I’ve never condemned anyone in my life and I rely on my soul for what I believe. You say you rely on mystics and tradition as you give their names to support your beliefs.

***

Clay:

JJ you truly do not understand Ockhams razor. I really suggest you go read it.

JJ

I think I understand it just fine. I understand it doesn’t always rule out the supernatural, but in the context you were using it, it would.

Clay

You however violate every rule of logic by assuming supernatural beings instead of taking the logical approach and concluding that they are subconscious manifestations.

JJ

And who is this “they” you are talking about? Many things people ascribe to the supernatural is from their own minds. This does not mean that there are no such things as supernatural beings. If you look deep enough you will discover that you are a supernatural being.

It is strange. You tell us of supernatural accounts in your life and then argue against supernatural things. You come across as very inconsistent.

Clay:

So tell me JJ, why should is elect DK’s cosmology over Saint Thomas Aquinas or Diontmysus the Aerogapitr (the preeminent and foundational Christian mystic) or how about Jaob Bohme? I am totally intrigued by Bohmes mystical cosmology and his writing is absolutely soaring? So why DK and not these other equally profound teachers? Or how about Allan’s favorite, Gurdjieff?

JJ

Your question is too general and broad. If you can come up with something specific to compare then I could intelligently comment.

I handle DK just like I do any other teacher. I run the words by my soul and mind. They must pass the inner test before I fully accept them. I must relate them to principles I know to be true.

Clay:

Finally I never claimed that the Jesus I saw was real, it could have just been a projection of my higher soul self as Allan claims…

JJ

I was just quoting you. However you saw Jesus it was not natural.

One with soul contact can find more truth in the National Enquirer than one who is in illusion can find in the Bible. (Quote from the archives)

***

Heat and Cold

Richard: Sorry to be picky JJ but that is incorrect. Heat comes from the translational motion of molecules, not their vibration. But otherwise what you say about hot and cold is scientifically correct.

JJ

My understanding is that the molecules both move and vibrate faster when heated, especially in gas and liquid, but in a solid like steel it would mostly affect vibration. Here are comments from three science sites:

Thermal energy can be transferred to other objects causing them to heat up. When you heat up a pan of water, the heat from the stove causes the molecules in the pan to vibrate faster causing the pan to heat up. The heat from the pan causes water molecules to move faster and heat up. So, when you heat something up, you are just making its molecules move faster.

LINK

When heat is added to a substance, the molecules and atoms vibrate faster. As atoms vibrate faster, the space between atoms increases. The motion and spacing of the particles determines the state of matter of the substance. The end result of increased molecular motion is that the object expands and takes up more space.

Mass of the object remains the same, however. Solids, liquids and gases all expand when heat is added. When heat leaves all substances, the molecules vibrate slower. The atoms can get closer which results in the matter contracting.

LINK

Here added heat is compared to sound waves:

sound waves have a much longer wavelength (at least in the range of some millimetres) than thermal phonons (not more than a few orders of magnitude bigger than the atomic lattice scale). These small-wavelength phonons can easily scatter at any lattice impurities, while the sound waves need macroscopic pertubations (like air gaps in an insulated glazing) to do so.

LINK

Always happy to be corrected as I like to be technically accurate.

***

Joshua

Looking at the Dark Side

I had some questions though about some things you said.

You say:

The Dark Brotherhood consists of very intelligent beings, some of which are in the physical and some in etheric bodies.

Joshua:

I thought the Dark Brothers existed in their astral bodies and I believe you wrote in the past that by meditating they could manifest an image or a temporary vehicle on the etheric plane. So did you mean to say astral here or do they have permanent etheric bodies that they are able to maintain indefinitely?

JJ

First, let me apologize for taking so long to get back to you. As you may have noticed Clay has kept me pretty busy, but I should never be too busy for good friends.

You bring up an area on which I have been doing some extra contemplation and I believe I have developed a fuller picture on the subject.

DK says this about the astral plane:

The secret science of the Master of the Wisdom is the secret of how to dissipate the fogs and mist and darkness and gloom which are produced by the union of the fires in the early stages. The secret of the Master is the discovery that there is no astral plane; he finds that the astral plane is a figment of the imagination and has been created through the uncontrolled use of the creative imagination and the misuse of the magical powers.

A Treatise on White Magic, Pg 615

He further states that the astral plane only seems real for the human kingdom and it is created through the interplay of the mind and etheric matter.

Here is my conclusion about the dark brothers out of incarnation. Their consciousness is indeed astral but they dwell in etheric bodies, or in some cases bodies more dense than physical in what is called the Eighth Sphere where they are in the process of disintegration, or one interpretation of the Second Death. They project their consciousness into the astral world where their thoughtforms can interact with humanity.

Joshua

The way you state that some are in etheric and some are in physical bodies make its sound like there is a somewhat even distribution between those in the dense physical and those who aren’t. You may not have meant that, but I’ll ask my question any way just in case.

JJ

I do not know the percentage of distribution but DK does indicate that some of them are in dense physical bodies as he describes the race of a couple of them

We can use the Law of Correspondences to guide us here, A pilgrim becomes a Master after he passes the Fifth Initiation. Some of those who become masters retain their physical bodies, as did DK, to assist humanity, but others go to higher planes for other work. Those who remain in the physical have power to extend their lives in that body until their mission is complete.

Correspondingly, the Dark Brother may have some type of initiation process that gives them powers, but instead of the powers of the soul it would be seemingly magical powers on the physical and astral planes. It is quite possible he has a similar power to extend his life.

We have quite a few details about their goals and how they work, but not many about their group and form nature.

Joshua

My understanding was that the true Dark Brother was quite rare in a physical body, because the lifetime when the physical permanent atom is destroyed and the left hand path is fully and consciously chosen is the only lifetime where a dark brother can have a physical body. After that he exists on in the astral body(or if what you said above wasn’t a typo the etheric body) and can only take full possession of the physical body or a clone of an initiate who has made steps along the dark path.

JJ

I think you are right that he only lives in the one physical body, but some have gained the power to extend their lives. If someone like Hitler gained control of the planet and killed off all the lights the vibration would be low enough to allow some to incarnate again.

Joshua

Both of these instances would seem to be exceedingly rare. Maybe you are including people going down the dark path who are not yet beyond redemption as well. In my understanding they aren’t Dark brothers yet, and I believe both you and DK have said something along the lines of, if there is the smallest amount of goodness or compassion in your heart you are not yet a dark brother.

JJ

The development of any type of real dark brother is a rare occurrence as the soul works with all its incarnations with great diligence. A Dark Brother is one who consciously cuts himself off from all contact with his soul and most turn around before the point of no return is reached. Anyone, even those who are in great illusion, have not yet chosen the dark path if they have any love in their heart for their fellow men and women.

 

July 30, 2015

Bad Guys

Clay:

Another rule of debate is that an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence, and so far you have produced absolutely zero evidence for the existence of any dark brotherhood.

JJ

There is plenty of evidence, as there are bad guys organized all over the planet seeking to take away freedom. No one in his right mind would argue against such a thing. It is obvious that there are some organizations good and bad that the public does not know about.

Why do we have to keep repeating ourselves here when you do not make any good argument to refute this? Instead you just declare this concept to be wrong. I know you apologized, but this repetition is annoying. The class would like to learn some new stuff.

***

The Fate of the Bad Guys

Ruth had some questions

When Judas betrayed Jesus and Jesus was tortured and murdered, was this the direct result of the Dark Brotherhood, because they only go after those who can bring in significant light or who are high initiates or Disciples or even Masters of the Brotherhood of Light?

JJ

The result of all our actions are always our own decisions. Of course, we are all subject to visible and invisible or subtle influences and all must deal with them to some extent.

The average person in ordinary circumstances draws no attention from one evolved on the Left. A person has to be useful to him or a threat. Probably 99% of what people think is satanic influences upon them come from their own thoughtforms or Dweller.

Concerning Judas it is written:

Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. John 6:70-71

Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. John 13:26

There were definitely invisible intelligences interested in using Judas as a pawn.

Now, there are a lot of teachers, such a Gurdjieff, who believe that Judas was the most evolved of the disciples and volunteered for this mission out of love. He claims that for the Last Supper Jesus needed to have Satan out of the picture and that by tricking him into entering into Judas that they could thus have their last meeting in peace and get closer to the love of God than any time in history.

The recently discovered Gospel of Judas also supports the idea that Judas was the best of the lot. It maintains that he was the only one of the Twelve that would have eternal life, while the rest would die physical and spiritually. That alone makes it suspicious. The text has been dated to 280 AD, during which time many odd teachings and gospels surfaced from people’s imagination.

I think the gospel story is fairly accurate on this, that one disciple was particularly out of harmony. In reality you have at least one out of twelve people who turn out to be a problem, no matter how careful you are in selecting them. Gurdjieff was right in the idea that getting the negative out of the way was useful. Just like a flock of geese can fly no faster than the slowest goose, a group can reach no higher than the person who is of the lowest vibration. One negative person in a group can prevent the whole group from making soul contact as a group. To take a group to a high point of spiritual consciousness one needs to make sure all in the group are in harmony and completely free of grievance toward anyone else in the group.

With Judas and his grievances out of the way the group could touch the spirit at the Last Supper in a way that could not be accomplished with him in attendance. I’m sure the Eleven had fond memories of the spiritual feelings they had at that event that followed them throughout their lives.

Many think that every detail had to play out as it did for Jesus to accomplish his mission, but such is not the case. For instance, Jesus could have arranged to be captured even if there was no betrayal. The betrayal certainly makes the story have more bite to it, however.

Ruth:

However, I would like to know what really went on behind the scenes and why back then?

JJ

Unfortunately, I have not focused in his life on developing the ability to read all the historical records from the Akashic records and those who claim access all produce different accounts. When we return to our souls we will have access to all true history. I am sure we spend quite a bit of time in the Hall of Records between lives. Probably a lot of people check out who killed JFK shortly after arriving there.

Ruth

Also in the case of Hitler, when he died, did he also receive a soul life review of all the evil that he did?

JJ

If he returned to his soul he did, but if not then he would be dwelling with other like minded souls of his wavelength.

Ruth

Did Hitler chose to become this person in his soul life plan before he reincarnated in that life?

JJ

We all plan our lives but often, because free will, we make decisions that takes us on a darker path than was planned. Many see in their life’s plan that they will be in difficult circumstances, such as being born in North Korea, but such circumstances are essential for the lessons needed and to balance off karma.

Ruth:

I would assume that Hitler was in a lower realm of the afterlife when he died and was surrounded by other murderers, so when he reincarnates again, and plans his next life with his soul, then what would stop him from becoming another Hitler type again in his next lifetime, after being surrounded by murderers in the afterlife? His conscious? His soul life review at death?

JJ

Assuming enough of his essence returned to the soul so another personality could be incarnated another personality from Hitler’s soul could be born. If this happened, the personality could be quite different from the original Hitler, and hopefully not as destructive. If Hitler is in the physical today he is most likely a Jew living in dangerous circumstances to diffuse his negative feelings toward that people.

***

More Arguments of Clay

JJ

Sigh. Clay insists on continuing to beat this dead horse and if I knew what was good for me I would ignore him, but it is interesting to see how long he can say the same thing over and over with slight word changes before he tires out.

The only benefit here is we do manage to shed some light on a few things.

I also encountered this challenge with Allan and an end was never reached.

Clay:

Pointing out human organizations who engage in harmful actions is zero proof of any dark brotherhood.

JJ

Sure it is. If those who desire to limit freedom exist in organizations on one level of intelligence then they will exist on another. We see that these people exist among all levels of known intelligence. Why that you would think otherwise is devoid of any explanation in your words.

This is powerful evidence that a dark brotherhood exists and you have absolutely no evidence that none exists. You keep challenging me for evidence and I deliver, but where is yours?

You have none. Nothing. Darkness. Nothing to be seen here.

Clay

I contend, no one would willingly choose to side with the darkness if they were equally convinced that the side of light existed.

JJ

Obviously, you know nothing about what the two brotherhoods are about or you would not be saying this.

Everyone chooses that which they see to be in their bests interests and members of both brotherhoods think they are choosing the best path for them. If we define light as the result of choosing correctly both groups think they are in the light just as the political left and right both think they are the most enlightened.

This is why it is essential to define the demarcation between he two, the most important of which is the Principle of Freedom. The dark side seeks to limit it and control others to fulfill their own selfish desires and the side of light seeks for maximum individual and group freedom, even if some of their personality desires have to be sacrificed.

The satellite photos show that the North Koreans dwell in great physical darkness symbolic of their spiritual darkness. Do they see themselves as dwelling in darkness and other countries as being in a greater light?

No. They think they represent the greatest light on the earth and desire to convert the rest of us by force to accept their supposedly wonderful way of life.

People cannot see light above their level of vision, but can see the degrees below. Those who are above the level of vision of the North Koreans can see the darkness in which they dwell, but to North Koreans the dim light in which they see seems to be the greatest there is.

Clay:

I don’t think that there is a single organization on the planet that is a brotherhood of darkness and are intentional working to defeat the light.

JJ

There’s a number of them. ISIS is a dark brotherhood who wants to limit human freedom (the light) and establish a world wide state that swill establish a dark rule where freedom is extremely limited. If they ruled the world a satellite photo of the planet would show most of the lights to be turned out as in North Korea at present.

Of course, like the North Koreans, they think they are in the light because that is the level of vision they are at.

Clay

They are organized either out of totally selfish motives,

JJ

You just described the motive of the dark brothers.

Clay

So, no JJ, I don’t believe in your Dark brotherhood. I believe sometimes people having very misguided ideas of right and wrong and how to achieve the greatest good.

JJ

Okay, let us change the name from “dark brothers” to “people having very misguided ideas of right and wrong and how to achieve the greatest good.”

This is very close to words I have used in the past to describe hem.

Clay:

So again JJ, show me your evidence and I will consider it.

JJ

I’ve shown you mine but you have not shown me yours. You have absolutely no proof that an organization, unknown to the masses, exists that has plans to limit human freedom to further their own selfish ends. None at all…

This must be embarrassing for you.

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!” Matt 6:22-23

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Handwriting Analysis of Pope Francis

Handwriting Analysis of Pope Francis

Here are some samples of the Pope’s handwriting.

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What stands out the most about him is that his focus, most likely for many years, has been more on the inner world than the outer. He’s happy being by himself with his prayers, his books and messing with whatever things he enjoys. He likes his space and does not like to feel crowded by atmosphere or people. He is suspicious and apprehensive about the motives of others, especially new people coming into his life. Yet at the same time he has good social skills and is charming and would draw people to him.

He is a humble man and has not attained his position because he has sought power, but has a good mind and has thought through what he wants to accomplish in life and has moved toward it. To accomplish his goals requires that he have a lot of interaction with people. If his mission in life didn’t require such interaction he would be happy spending a good portion of his time alone pursuing his personal interests.

As it is he forces himself forward attempting to reach out and pursue his version of what he sees as the works of a good shepherd.

He doesn’t have a big ego and is not working for self glorification, as are many leaders.

He is above average intelligence. He has good powers of focus and concentration and is capable of sustained mental pursuits without being distracted and needing few breaks. His mind is flexible and can shift attention rather easily. In speaking he is rarely at a loss for words.

He would make a good student and scholar in the traditional sense. He could be quite happy spending a lifetime in research and learning, except his feeling the need to serve his fellow men takes him a different direction.

His approach to things that interest the average person is fairly dispassionate and mentally controlled. He doesn’t let himself get excited about them, but he feels very strongly about things that will further his path of service. He has a strong emotional memory and well as a good regular memory.

Even though he has a good mind he does have several weaknesses that hamper his intellect.

(1) He is insecure and likes to play things safe. This trait probably wouldn’t have worked well for him if he had been a businessman or worked in some competitive industry, but it worked for him in the church for there playing it safe keeps you away from drawing negative attention and negative attention can hurt your step by step climb up the ladder in a conservative religious organization. He is a plodder and keeps moving ahead a step at a time.

(2) He doesn’t like conflict and tends to follow the line of least resistance. Even so, he likes to make his own independent decision and tries to think out of the box. His out of the box thinking will produce safe directions that will gather more support than he would lose.

Let us take his views on global warming and the evils of capitalism. He’s gotten a lot of support from the media on these and other stands. This support will cause him to feel he is avoiding as much conflict as possible while still moving ahead with his ideas.

(3) He doesn’t look at all sides of a problem so he doesn’t apply the full power of his mind to analyzing his views and find the flaws in his ideas and reasoning. He could be easily misled because he relies too much on standard authority and does not analyze all things for himself.

Again let us take global warming. Because the authorities he has come across give a certain view on it then he supports them without studying it out for himself.

Because it seems Christian to him to not build walls he accepts this and misses the quote from the New Testament telling us that even God has a wall around his city. Rev 21:9-12

Donald Trump may well be right that Mexican authorities misled him about his views. Instead of finding out Trump’s exact words he reacted to what he was told Trump said which may not have been accurate.

He likes to be open with his emotions but is fairly secretive with his words. He doesn’t tell all he knows by a long shot.

In summary his most positive traits are: Good intellect, creative mind and is not in his line of work for the ego. I doubt if he can be bought.

The negative is he can be fooled and captivated by illusion and tends toward the line of least resistance.

He doesn’t like stirring up controversies, but feels he can handle them because of the public and media support he receives. He has a 78% favorability rating with his followers.

There is much more I could write concerning his personality but this should give some food for thought.

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The Pope and The Donald

This entry is part 18 of 73 in the series 2015

The Pope and The Donald

I believe that Pope Francis is the first pontiff in history to single out the United States as the evil empire. He hasn’t used that exact phrase, but his criticisms of us reveal that he sees us this way.

First, he criticizes us as being unchristian and greedy because of our free enterprise and capitalism. He seems to think that Jesus wants us enter into the forced sharing programs advocated by socialists and communists rather than leaving sharing up to Christian free will.

Then he lectures to us about destroying the planet though burning fossil fuels, as if we are the only country who has inhabitants driving cars and heating our homes. I wonder if he would have the courage to go to China or Russia and tell them their way of life runs contrary to God’s will.

Then he breaks down the barrier between church and state and addresses both the U.N. and the United States Congress.

Now he adds fuel to political/religious fire and division he has created by attacking a leading presidential candidate. On Thursday, Feb 18, he was asked his views on Donald Trump. The interviewer told the pontiff that Trump “said that if he were elected president he would build a 2,500-km wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants.”

To this Pope Francis said

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the gospel. … I say only that this man is not Christian if he says things like that.”

Well, Donald did say things exactly like that so Pope Francis is definitely stating that Trump is not a Christian.

Some are trying to whitewash the Pope’s statement saying he didn’t mention Donald by name, but this is silly because the question specifically mentioned him by name meaning the answer was directed specifically at Donald Trump.

To his credit Trump didn’t take the accusation lying down. He said:

“No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith,” He added that people in the government of Mexico “made many disparaging remarks about me to the Pope.”

Then he wrapped it up with this creative possibility:

“If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president.”

So, is the Pope justified in attacking Trump as being unchristian for wanting to build a wall to keep illegals out? Is there anything in the Bible that teaches against keeping out undesirables with walls?

To the contrary the scripture are full of support for wall building. The first thing David did when he established the city that would become Jerusalem was to build more walls.

Later the city was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, but after a period of captivity the Jews rejoiced when Ezra and Nehemiah were allowed to return to Jerusalem and rebuild its walls and so Israel could dwell there safely.

Jerusalem has been famous throughout history as the walled city, but the real clincher in this story is not the Old Jerusalem, but the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is portrayed in the New Testament as the City of God where dwells God and the redeemed. Of this it is written:

“Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God … And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels.” Rev 21:9-12

And why does God’s own city have a wall? It is to keep out those who are not citizens of the kingdom of God for the following scripture says:

“And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.” Rev 21:27

“Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without (outside the wall) are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” Rev 22:14-15

Someone needs to tell the Pope that even God needs a wall to keep out those who are not authorized citizens of is kingdom.

It’s almost funny when you think of it, especially when you consider that the Vatican has a giant wall 50 feet high and has such strict immigration rules that Donald Trump looks like Mother Teresa by comparison.

The United States should be the last country that Pope Francis should preach about inclusiveness as we take in more immigrants here than any other nation.

In 2013, approximately 41.3 million immigrants lived in the United States and if we add in U. S. born children the number reaches 80 million or about a quarter of our population.

By contrast the whole United Kingdom only has about a half million, France 332,000, Germany, 693,000 and Italy, wherein lies the Vatican only 307,000 less than one percent of the USA. Then as far as the nation which is called the Vatican goes one is much more likely to win the lottery than become a legal immigrant there.

With such a huge number of immigrants already here it is only logical that we should follow the example set by the Christian God and his city, and establish rules and secure our borders so we can make sure that decent people are allowed to come in and to keep out those that would do us damage.

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 16

This entry is part 13 of 13 in the series 2015B

July 19, 2015

Discovering Illusion

We have covered the first two major steps toward liberation which are:

(1) Gaining control over the physical body and the powerful influences of the material world. These include appetite, sex and money, and/or possessions.

(2) Acquiring power over the emotional body and its distorted influences. This includes the ability to maintain inner peace in the face of any emotional attack or insult. Even more difficult is putting the ego, and its desire to magnify its importance, under control. The disciple will search out all glamours that are affecting him and dispel them. If he feels special because he thinks he has some special mission then he will discover how his ego is handling this and put it in check and will see himself as no more special than his brothers and sisters.

The next great hurdle is the world of illusion. By the time he reaches this stage he has had quite a bit of practice using the mind to solve the problems of glamour. There is some illusion built into every glamour that he had to find and dispel using the discriminating power of the mind. The next step is in finding the illusion in his actual belief systems that can stand apart from emotional attachment.

When the disciple approaches the third initiation he has a moment of breakthrough enlightenment followed by an encounter with the Dweller on the Threshold and the Angel of the presence.

We know that Paul had an Angel if the Presence encounter when he was blinded by a great light and heard the voice of Christ. What led up to this is not recorded. Here is probably what happened.

Like most true believers Paul was caught up from the time of his youth in the illusions inherent in his scriptures, his religion and tradition. These illusions led him to persecuting, to the point of imprisonment and death, the sincere members of the new Christian sect. His illusions caused him to sincerely see them as a threat to truth revealed from God that must be eliminated any way possible. His scriptures seemed to sanction death for blasphemers so his mind reasoned that it was within the will of God to kill them if necessary.

Some time before his encounter he started to analyze and question his belief system. He asked himself, “What if I am wrong?” Then mentally went back to the beginning of his established beliefs and substituted pure logic for that which was the traditional belief and analyzed the results. He didn’t like what those results were and suppressed them for a time and amplified his efforts to attack the Christians.

On the road to Damascus he had time to think and the logic of his possible misdirection came back to him. For the first time he truly opened his mind to the real possibility that his whole course in life had been wrong and what the right course may be if God is truly a God of love.

Before the encounter with the blinding light he was met by the Dweller on the Threshold that presented every possible suffering he would have to endure if he changed direction. He saw that he would be ostracized and possibly put to death by his own religion, but even more horrifying was that if he was wrong he would be condemned by God himself and may suffer for eternity. This was a horrifying thought to deal with that was only overcome by focusing on the love of God, and that if he was truly a son that God would accept him.

It was around this time that he encountered the Great Presence that changed his life and purpose.

To pass the Third Initiation the disciple must likewise examine his foundation beliefs and see them as they are and correct them. He may not be chasing and killing Christians, but he is most likely attacking some great truths in an attempt to kill and suppress them.

Giving signs for recognizing the Third Degree Initiate is somewhat futile?

Why?

If I were to merely say that this seeker has seen through his illusions many readers would nod their heads and say, “Yup, that is me. No illusion is holding me hostage.”

The problem with illusions is that the core ones are not seen by the pilgrim until the third initiation process is actually approached. Thus it seems to him that his core beliefs are sound with little or no illusion involved.

As food for thought I will say this. Many of the core illusions veiling the mind from the Angel of he Presence are centered around the Principle of Freedom. Illusions trick the mind of many into thinking that true freedom is dangerous, not to be trusted, but either controlled or suppressed. Then the other side of illusions here are centered toward no structure that leads to anarchy. Only the shattering of illusion accompanied by good judgment can dispel the darkness.

The bottom line is the question, “Are you free from core illusions?” is not helpful.

However, there are signs in the experience of the disciple of the third degree which are:

(1) He will go through an examination of his core beliefs that will cause him to consider making major changes of direction in his life.

(2) He will have a supernatural expedience where he encounters the Dweller on the Threshold. Check out some of my previous writings on his to see what this entails.

(3) This will be followed by an encounter with the Angel of the Presence (which he will interpret as Christ, God or some other great being).

At the Gathering Lorraine asked something to the effect as to whether we are working on more than one initiation at a time. To this I said no, but the answer needs some more details.

We have to pass the first before we can concentrate on the second and the second before the third etc. BUT… As we journey on the path we learn many things before the first that help us pass the first and the second before we pass he second etc.

To pass the third the disciple needs to have a highly developed reasoning mind as well as an open mind. Many lifetimes prepare the seeker for this moment, from initial brain stimulation, to eventually developing reasoning powers, good judgment and many circumstances forcing him to change his mind. Eventually, his own initiatives will change his mind, not outer circumstances.

This is as far as we need to go in this subject for practical purposes. I’ve already written a lot about the higher initiations that can be found in my previous writings.

The disciple is one who realises his responsibility to all units who come under his influence,—a responsibility of co-operating with the plan of evolution as it exists for them, and thus to expand their consciousness and teach them the difference between the real and the unreal, between life and form. This he does most easily by a demonstration in his own life as to his goal, his object, and his centre of consciousness.

Initiation Human and Solar, Pg 72

July 20, 2015

Thanks for your thoughtful letter Joshua. My philosophy in managing the posts here has been to allow maximum freedom to post. If someone becomes too much of a distraction then I will place them on moderation. I placed Jim on moderation once before and he quit but then wrote me a couple friendly emails so I thought I would give him another chance to post unmoderated. Obviously his present insults are over the top and he is just asking to be moderated again. Even though those on moderation can still post anything that is civil that is not a big distraction he will most likely quit again if moderated. Perhaps it is no fun to post if he cannot ridicule us.

Jim has obviously been a seeker throughout his life and has gathered considerable knowledge and experience. Then when he found his living master who initiated him he seems to have concluded that his quest has come to and end and after death he will live in eternal bliss with no need of further incarnation.

It appears though that further incarnation may be needed as he seems to have a huge hole in his learning curve. A most important ingredient for a true journey on the path is the cultivation of love, friendship and brotherhood. I, along with others, have attempted to extend these qualities to him and in return have received criticism, insults and inflammatory statements. It makes me wonder if he has a friend in the world, for who wants to hang out with someone who returns kindness with insults? One can see why he has not gathered a group on the internet.

I generally avoid people like that. Jim is different than most people that turn mean spirited on me in that he has shown a desire to share, entertain and capable of reasonable humor. I still think he is capable of good things but to realize them he must establish right human relations and seek to love us as much as he does the animals he refuses to eat.

Have you noticed that this is a problem of many who come here causing a disturbance? How much love do you feel from them, how much real sense of brotherhood? Was the hand of friendship extended? Did kindness come through?

I try and set the example here and show love, friendship and kindness to all. If such attempts prove fruitless I do not return evil for evil, but just place m energies where they will be more appreciated.

And now Jim, you have caused enough distraction here so please, in any future posts, cease with the insults, or you will be placed on moderation.

I am sure many wish I had already placed you on moderation, but I believe in extending maximum latitude.

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Stauffenberg’s Motives

Jim writes:

I saw the movie, way before ever knowing you. I thought he was a Nazi in the movie. He rose pretty high in Hitler’s Ranks going along with the extermination of Jews, Gypsies, and Mentally ill German Citizens before his conversion…

JJ

Wow, Jim you put the worst possible spin on everyone you do not see as a saint. You distorted history on Bush, now Stauffenberg and probably would me if you had the chance.

Wait. You kinda did that already by searching out and throwing at us an obscure anti Keys site.

Now to Stauffenberg. His two main biographers agree that he did not know of Hitler’s atrocities before 1942. Here is what was written after he learned about them:

Claus Stauffenberg’s radical change of position came in 1942, and it was provoked by the crimes of the regime – the mass murder of Jews, Poles, Russians, prisoners-of-war. The available evidence shows that other issues were secondary.

In May 1942 Stauffenberg was informed of the mass murder of Jews by Lieutenant (Res.) Hans Herwarth von Bittenfeld, a former member of the German embassy in Moscow who had served in the campaigns in Poland and Russia and since March 1942 had been working in Foreign Office Section XIII (occupied and unoccupied USSR) under the former Ambassador Friedrich Werner, Count Schulenburg. Also in May 1942, Stauffenberg and Herwarth received an eye-witness report from an officer about how some SS men had rounded up the Jews in a Ukrainian town, led them to a field, made them dig their own mass grave, and then shot them. Upon hearing this report Stauffenberg said that Hitler must be removed. He believed that the senior commanders had the duty to put this into effect.

During the second or third outing, in August 1942, Stauffenberg said suddenly: ‘They are shooting Jews in masses. These crimes must not be allowed to continue.’

In 1943 he declared that no sacrifice would be too great to have the mass-murderers of the Jews prosecuted by German authorities, before the Allies did so after Germany’s inevitable defeat.

Quotes from Peter Hoffman’s Biography on Stauffenberg

It is amazing that he spoke up at all when considering the danger of expressing such opinions. You do not hear of anyone in the military in North Korea or Cuba speaking up against any disagreement.

Hoffman says that the conspiracy’s main foundation was on the opposition to Hitler because of his atrocities.

As far as him being a Nazi he says:

The Stauffenbergs were not governed by a ‘world view’, but rather by the rejection of thought systems. Claus Stauffenberg never inclined towards any political party. A close friend said that if Claus had ever thought in earnest about political parties he would have formed one himself.

To say that Stauffenberg was a Nazi because circumstances forced him to work under Hitler is like saying I am a Democrat because I have to labor under Obama.

Here is another biographer’s account of an incident of Stauffenberg dealing with the Nazis back in 1934:

On 16 September 1934, Stauffenberg and a colleague were sent as representatives of their regiment to attend an official Party Day lecture in Bamberg. The speaker was the notorious Gauleiter (provincial Party boss) of Nuremberg, Julius Streicher, perhaps the most obscenely vicious of Nazi racial theoreticians-a man whose charisma was matched, if not positively exceeded, by his nastiness. Stauffenberg already harboured a personal grudge against Streicher, who had published an attack on Stefan George. At the lecture, Streicher launched into one of his customary pornographic castigations of Jews. So offensive did Stauffenberg find this torrent of rancid rhetoric that he did what, in the context, amounted to the unthinkable. He was a tall man, and conscious of his height. Accompanied by his colleague, he suddenly stood up, left his seat, stalked down the central aisle of the hall and proceeded to the exit. Here he was intercepted and stopped by SS personnel, obviously annoyed at the conspicuousness of his action; but the SS, at this date, could not afford to alienate the army, still less a dynamic and promising young officer of Stauffenberg’s social status and aristocratic pedigree. After a brief verbal altercation, he and his colleague elbowed their way past the black- clad minions and out of the premises.

From Secret Germany by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh

Doesn’t sound like he was impressed with Nazi doctrine and it is an historical fact that he gave his life fighting against Hitler and his Nazi doctrines.

 

July 21, 2015

Proof of Life After Death

Robert was questioning the many views of an afterlife thinking from the point that there may not be one at all or it may be much different than we think. For instance, maybe we just hop from one body to another after death.

First let us talk about evidence of life after death. One of the most powerful arguments for it, and rarely used, is the fact that you now exist. Why is this evidence? Because science has discovered that anything that exists cannot be proven to ever be destroyed. Matter may at times seem to be destroyed, but it is not. Instead it is merely converted into pure energy, which can then be converted back into matter.

Even so, there is something that exists beyond the physical that makes you what you are. Logic tells us that this something will persist and cannot be destroyed any more than matter can.

Close your eyes and try to imagine a time when your essence will not exist and never will again. I cannot.

The second most powerful proof of life after death concerns a subject shunned by orthodoxy in the Western world – reincarnation. If you and I are reborn again and again in different bodies then obviously something survives death to live again.

I have proven reincarnation to myself, but some of the most powerful evidence is very personal so I will move on to other evidence.

Here are some comments from my book Eternal Lives about evidence produced by Ian Stevenson who investigated thousands of people who remembered past lives.

This conscious remembering is not as rare as many may think and this phenomenon caught the attention of Dr. Ian Stevenson, the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, about forty years ago. Since that time he has traveled the world studying these people and has accumulated about 3000 cases in his files.

Most of the more amazing cases occur with young children just a couple years old who are just learning to speak. As a general rule they remember the past life for a couple years and lose the memory around the age of five or six.

In a typical situation the child may insist that her parents are not really her parents, but that her true parents (and perhaps spouse) are in another city or part of the country). Dr. Stevenson tries to catch these children before they had a chance to visit their home of a previous life and take them there and scientifically examine their response. In many cases the child’s memory of a past life is proven, for the name given out is discovered to be a real person who died. The child is then taken to the home of her past life and will identify dozens of memories that she could have not acquired in this life. If there is some secret hiding place he or she will identify this. If there are favorite possessions, these will be pointed out.

In one case a young girl identified a previous spouse who refused to believe that the little girl was his dead wife reborn. She gave identification after identification of information only the wife could have known, but still the guy was unconvinced. In desperation the little girl pulled him aside and step by step told him exactly what she did to him when they made love as husband and wife. That did the trick. The man was convinced.

Basically Dr. Stevenson likes to get about twenty-four items of identification from the child of things that she could have not known, about the family and circumstances of the past life before he will take it seriously or even write about it.

Perhaps even more startling than the evidences derived from recalling past lives is Dr. Stevenson’s more recent work on corresponding birthmarks from one life to the next. He discovered that if one has a wound, particularly one that caused death, such as a gunshot, that the person will often have a birthmark in the exact placed where the wound was in a past life. What is even more fascinating is that if the person received a bullet wound which penetrated the body and left an exit hole that the entity will have a birthmark at both the point of entrance and exit.

Even more interesting is that the exit wound is larger than the entrance, and when the corresponding birthmarks are examined he found that the birthmark at the location of the exit wound was also much bigger.

Dr. Stevenson examined 895 children, who remembered past lives, for birthmarks, corresponding to wounds and found related birthmarks on 309 of them or 35%.

The chances of this happening are very miniscule. The average adult has about 17 square feet of skin stretching over his body. That is 2448 square inches. Now the chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of the body in a current life as a wound in a past life is 2448:1. The chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of both an exit and entrance wound is much greater: 5,992,704 to one, yet Stevenson turned up this startling evidence time and time again.

The interesting thing about the birthmark study is that the “tricky devil:” theory is even more ridiculous. To believe the devil is bouncing around stamping birthmarks on children defies all logic.

If there is something that survives death and moves on to another body then there is something that has to exist between lives. It is not logical to assume we just jump from one body to another as there are seven billion people on the earth today whereas earlier in our history there were only a few million. Where were the extra billions back then? They had to exist apart from the physical plane.

Michael Newton conducted a breakthrough investigation into what happens to us between lives. He took over 3000 people back using deep hypnosis that required three hour sessions to achieve. What makes for interesting evidence is the consistency of the testimony that came from a wide variety of subject some of whom were agnostics or even atheists.

Additional evidence is supplied by others who have done similar investigations into the afterlife as they come up with the same details.

Newton’s subjects did more than just reveal a nebulous afterlife but gave many interesting detailed descriptions of what happens there.

In a nutshell he revealed that most wander the lower etheric/astral realms for a while and then return to the spirit world to their soul group where they are reunited with their soul. Afterwards they experience a life review assisted by 2-5 elder souls. Rather than being a condemning judgment the review merely assesses how he did in his last life and what he an do to prepare for the next.

There are archives of libraries there containing the history of each soul as well as the history of our planet.

Before we incarnate we see a projection of how that life is likely to work out so we will be aware of what we are getting into.

There are clues we create in advance so we will recognize people who are important to us. I know the clue I had for my wife was the first time I saw her handwriting.

He says that each soul has a different color depending on his state of evolution. Unlike here you can tell how far along the path another is by merely checking out his color. He points out that many who came to him thinking they were far along and thought they were on their last life were surprised to find out they were really a newer soul when their coloring was revealed. Each soul group has the same basic color.

These are just a few points that have been very consistent in life between life recollections brought forth by Newton and others.

The most noted evidence of life after death is from the near death experiences. So many of these have been revealed that even some standard scientists have studied the phenomenon. They are perplexed that memories can be retrieved from a time period when the heart was not beating and the brain had ceased from functioning. What is even more baffling is that some have reported leaving their bodies and encountering events and conversations away from the hospital room and accurately recalling them.

A final evidence is produced by many who have had out of body experiences. This work was pioneered by Robert Monroe. He and his students not only give evidence that that there is more to us than the physical but a number of out of body experiences include visits with those who have long passed on from this life.

The greatest proof of all are experiences achieved through soul contact but such things are not allowed to be introduced as concrete proof. Even so, the senses of the soul are much more real than those of the physical body.

Overall, the concrete evidence of life after death is pretty potent and few non believers have examined them all. If they do then few honest people could deny that the evidence powerfully suggests that there is more for us to experience after the death of the physical body.

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Doctrines of Devils

Ken, I hope you realize that I was making an attempt to display my humorous side. Now let us look at the scripture seriously. It says:

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Now this could apply to you, me, both of us or neither. Which is it? Maybe a more complete quote would provide the answer.

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. I Tim 4:1-5

Okay, the bad guys Paul talks about are identified as doing the following. Do they apply to either of us?

(1) Speaking lies in hypocrisy;

I do not speak lies in nor out of hypocrisy. I think you have mistaken beliefs, but see no evidence that you lie.

(2) having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

This applied to many who resorted to persecution and other harmful acts. I know I have a good guiding conscience and see no evidence that you do not have one.

(3) Forbidding to marry

As far as I know both of us support marriage and do not forbid anyone from it.

(4) commanding to abstain from meats

I haven’t commanded anyone to abstain from meat, have you? I don’t think so.

Conclusion: It looks like neither you or I are guilty of the doctrines of devils that Paul was revering to. Maybe we should cease from any accusations on the matter. After all, who is called the accuser of the brethren?

“…for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.” Rev 12:18

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Larry W

JJ also said that Sanat is counted as a “rebel” among his peers. Just transpose the n and the t so Sanat becomes Satan. I (we) have no way to positively verify this idea. So I guess this falls to our resident Seer. What do you think, JJ?

JJ

I do not think Sanat Kumara is a fallen Lucifer as he is identified as one of the seven great Spirits before the throne of God by DK – even though he presides over a non sacred planet.

The problem is that the name Lucifer, as used by Christians, only refers to Satan whereas most Lucifers have not fallen, as Jesus is called a Lucifer (Morning Star) in the Book of Revelation.

DK did indicate that Sanat was a rebel but I think he was stressing that he is attempting techniques that are not done by other Logoi.

The thing to always look at is the real manifestations of Good and evil and where they come from.

***

Clay:

And you made my point or me. I disagree with you and now you claim that I call evil good and good evil. That is exactly what is wrong with your teaching paradigm and your entre world view JJ.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

The problem was not that you disagreed with me. The problem was that you label harmless things as evil – such as Blayne’s lighthearted comments. Get a life, man.

Clay

People can not just disagree with you, or have a difference of opinion with you, you have to label all disagreement with you as evil.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong & Double wrong and you cannot give one feeble example to support this crazy minded accusation.

Clay

That is exactly what authoritarians dictators do.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Equating anything I have done here with an authoritarian dictator is mean spirited to the extent that Alan looks like an angel. What the hell is the mater with you???

Clay

so maybe Jim was correct in his criticism of you. Even before I ever posted on this forum by Richard that my political views would be attacked ruthlessly on this forum, and I a Tuvalu blew it off as you seemed really reasonable in spiritual exchanges, but turns out he was totally right. I truly, truly expected better of you.

JJ

You are not making any sense here. What have you been smoking? The last post we received from Richard was praising me for being more accepting than Allan.

Clay: Again, i am just pointing out your total inconsistency in treatment between Blayne and Jim.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

You have only done this in your wild imagination.

Clay

I must be a member of the dark brotherhood if I disagree with you.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Almost everyone on this forum has disagreed with me including Dan lwk, Ruth and most others. And they are not part of any dark brotherhood. You have no idea of what I am talking about when I use this term. Where you getting these crazy ideas???

Clay:

So of course how would I ever know good from evil.

JJ

Using the quality of your logic lately that is a good question.

Clay:

Also, I don’t believe in good or evil.

JJ

That explains a lot. Those who cut off the heads of those who do not conform are just as good as you are. Yeah, right. You have been an irritation lately, but I would hope you see yourself as good in relation to the head-cutting-off bunch. Maybe not.

Clay

I believe in positive and negative karma. I do not acknowledge the existence of evil as anything real. Evil is an illusion.

JJ

So when the evil dudes cut off heads, the heads do not really roll because all is illusion??? You are a piece of work indeed.

Clay

Again JJ if your master DK is so advanced he should mention something about Tulpa’s and egregores in his teachings.

JJ

He spent a lot of time on these but called them thoughtforms. You need to get informed before you mindlessly lash out.

Clay;

No one is opposing you

JJK

So you are calling yourself a nobody then? At least we are seeing some humility here.

Clay

or out to sabotage your special mission to the world.

JJ

I am not complaining.

Clay

You are not that important. Neither am I, the difference s I am ok with that.

JJ

I don’t think so. You seem to think you are much more important than I.

Clay:

Hey we all want to feel like we matter, I totally get it, and you do matter, you just aren’t any more special or chosen than anyone else on this planet.

JJ

And you are saying this because??? Sounds like a false humility in a feeble attempt to feel important.

Clay:

But hey, do whatever gets you through the day. I don’t think you are evil JJ,

JJ

Why the change of thought here? Feeling a little guilty are we?

Clay

just a little arrogant and authoritarian, despite your professed libertarianism.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong. You cannot back this up. Just another mindless accusation.

Clay

Also less delusional than Allan. I also don’t take sides.

JJ

You are deceiving yourself. You are into black and white, light and dark, good and evil as much as the Fundamentalists. You are just fooling yourself.

Clay:

But hey, I can’t follow a logical argument or tell good from evil and have the mark of the beast so what do I know.

JJ

That has nothing to do with my teachings on the mark of the beast. If you really understood what I say you wouldn’t be so contrary.

Sometimes you come across as someone who is contrary for the sake of being contrary.

We once stood together against unreasonable accusations on Allan’s list. Now I have to deal with another Allan type of unreasonableness.

Can anything good come out of Allan’s forum?

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Clay:

Jim was being singled out and treated differently because he does not tow the keister line.

JJ

That is just plain silly. One of the main rules here is to treat each other civilly. I usually give a warming first as I did with Jim and he ignored it so I put him on moderation, But even on moderation he can post as long as it is civil.

I didn’t bellyache when Allan put me on moderation – and for not for breaking any rule as did Jim..

Clay

JJ however sees Jim’s statement as pure evil.

JJ

Wrong Wrong Wrong. Where do you get such crazy ideas?

Clay

There are mean people, malicious people, sadistic people, but no person is evil. There are mean people, malicious people, sadistic people, but no person is evil. People will do awful, terrible things to each other, but no, an bad action does not make a person evil, not even your arch nemesis Hitler.

JJ

Most people would call someone like Hitler evil. You must have some weird definition that is not in the dictionary. You can’t really reason with someone who has floating ephemeral definition of words. You are a moving target.

July 22, 2015

Noah

“Suppose one more soul would have repented and entered the ark with Noah? Today he would probably have about a billion descendants that would praise his name for making the effort to live according to the witness he received. As it is, there is not the name of one person or his children who lived at the time of Noah who is remembered on the earth today. Even Noah is not remembered for his success as a preacher, but his name is great today merely because he obeyed the Lord and physically survived. “

I thought that God hand picked Noah and his family, as the only humans alive who were supposed to be saved, at the time of the Great Flood? Noah had found Grace in the Eyes of the Lord.

In Genesis 6-9, it states that God wanted to destroy every corrupt living human and animal on Earth with the flood.

Therefore, who are the other souls who should have repented, and entered the Ark with Noah?

Also, is the physical manifestation of the Gathering of Lights in Zion, like a type of Noah’s Ark? I know that you have written something to the effect, that once the Lights on Earth all shift to one spot on Earth, then this will cause something like a magnetic reversal, because it will move the poles of Earth.

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Good and Evil

Clay:

I do not subscribe to any belief system that divides the world into the good team am the bad team. ISiIs does many horrorific things we should try to see them as damaged humans, not evil ones.

JJ

You are spinning your wheels attempting to create division over arguing about the meaning of words. It all depends on how one defines evil as to how such a thing manifests. If a person defines evil as eating peas then that is evil by the way he defines the term and you need to communicate with him using this realization. If this “damaged” head cutting off bunch are defined as evil because of such “damage” then that would be evil by definition – and it would also conform to the dictionary. Something IS in the English language because we define it so. If we do not define our words then we cannot communicate.

You cannot communicate with us about good and evil because you do not use any standard definition. If you are going to use a definition that is not in the dictionary then you should define the word do you can make some sense. Why even use a word that has no existence behind it? The fact that you use the word ”evil” so often (much more than I do) shows that you do believe in it. You appear to think it is spiritual to not believe so you put yourself in that elite category. That must feel so smug.

If you believe in good then you have to believe in evil for we live in a world of duality. If there us hot there must be cold. If there is and up there must be down etc. If you believe in “up” but not “down” then you will still fall down when you stumble. Saying you do not believe in “down” changes nothing. It just makes you look silly.

You appear to see anyone being evil if they use the word evil for you attack them as a believer would attack an evil person.

Clay

I will pray for those who persecute me and love those who hate me, even you and JJ

JJ

I do not hate you or persecute anyone but do find it annoying that you put words in my mouth time and time again and now are accusing me of hating you while portraying yourself as a saint praying for me.

Clay:

I do know that Christianity conquered Rome not through armed self defense, but through non violent resistance.

JJ

You are mixed up here. It was Rome that conquered Christianity and after the conquest proceeded toward many bloody wars in the name of Christ.

I generally advocate non violence but there is a time and place for everything. Sometimes in the defense of freedom, such as World War II, you have to respond with force.

Mystics were dead wrong in many cases. Just because someone is or was a mystic does not make him correct. Often the path of non action is merely the path if avoidance opening the door to great “damage.”

“Damage” triumphs when good men do nothing.

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Clay:

Imagine if you were teaching a class on Spanish and someone who signed up for the class started interrupting the course incessantly with statements such as.

You shouldn’t be teaching Spanish. French is the right one to learn. If you are enlightened you will learn French.

You think I am evil if I speak French in class.

Your sourcebooks are all wrong. They do not even teach good Spanish.

And your teacher has no idea what he is talking about for he only mumbles balderdash.

This is what you are doing in this class.

Okay, we get your point, you do not agree with anything any of us seem to believe, even though, contrary to your belief, our main source material is the living soul whereas yours is dead mystics.

Fine. We get your point. You think the members here are a bunch of backward hicks.

Point taken.

Now let us move on and discuss the topics I introduce here and cease from the disruption. Many students are waiting for further teachings and all you are doing is interfering. This is a disappointment because you have the talent to add things in a positive way, but such a direction does not seem to enter your head.

If you do not accuse each other, God will not accuse you. If you have no accuser you will enter heaven. What many people call sin is not sin; I do many things to break down superstition, and I will break it down.

Joseph Smith, Jr.

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Correcting the Record

Clay:

Some of JJ teachings run contrary to both those of Buddha and Jesus. I stand by that.

JJ

You stand by it but do not prove you point, but only find fault with nothing to back it up.

Clay

Jesus and Buddha both taught voluntary poverty,

JJ

They taught to not be attached to physical possessions, which is different than teaching poverty. Jesus never taught poverty and Buddha taught against extremism. He lived in extreme wealth and extreme poverty and said neither supported the path to enlightenment.

How about posting a picture of where you live and the car you drive to show us an example of your poverty? Or are you beyond practicing what you preach?

Clay

JJ endorses prosperity teaching.

JJ

First I heard of this, though there is nothing wrong in poverty or riches if correctly used.

Clay

Jesus and Buddha were unequivocal in their renunciation of lethal force.

JJ

Again no proof is cited.

There is a time and place for everything:

Luke 22:36 Then said he (Jesus) unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Matt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

and in righteousness he (Christ) doth judge and make war. Rev 19:11

Clay

I am not setting up straw men, I am arguing over JJ’s direct teachings.

JJ

You aren’t presenting any arguments. You are just making declarations with nothing to back them up except your own authority, which seems to be enough for you.

Clay:

JJ tells us in his books that this type of sacrifice is no longer needed in the new age.

JJ

As usual you do not represent me correctly. I have taught that they keynote of the age of Pisces is sacrifice and that of Aquarius is Service. This doesn’t mean that sacrifice is no longer needed, but that is not where the emphasis of the teachings of this age will be. We will take the lessons of sacrifice and incorporate them as the human race learns the lessons of service.

Clay:

show me where I have misrepresented JJ’s teachings?

JJ

I just did. I could go on but am limited on time.

Clay

I do not believe he understands Buddhism or Christianity with the insight he claims.

JJ

And I do not believe you understand them either. You never back anything up, but just declare what you believe. I’ve written books on Buddhism and Christianity. What have you done?

Clay

Allan Watts if you have ever read him has illustratef the great truths in both on those religions,

JJ

And I could name a hundred authors who have written books. That says nothing to back up any point you make.

Clay

JJ has created a hodge podge of theosophy blended together with Mormonism.

JJ

All the ammunition you gave is to ridicule. You never quote what I say and comment on it but just say I am wrong. That us an extremely weak approach.

Clay

So far all I see is people telling me I am wrong with zero supporting argument or evidence. If there is a dark brotherhood, prove it.

JJ

You have it backward in dealing with me. I have written millions of words backing up my teachings. What do you have to back yours up outside of declarations of belief and telling us to read books.

Clay:

Again I am perfectly fine if JJ disagrees with me, but JJ seems to get his feelings hurt when people disagree with him, especially on political issues.

JJ

I think it is the other way around. You seem to be really bent out of shape because I do not think the same as you politically. My feelings are not hurt if someone disagrees with me. Now, name calling and false accusations are something else and such things break the forum rules and show a mean spirit.

A number of comments you make sound as if you take my fiction books as 100% truth. The Immortal series is a blend of fact and fiction as far as the story line goes with the teachings to be as true as I am able to write them. The millions of other words I have written contain no fiction, save a few parables.

Clay

But he should maybe tone down his messiah complex a bit, and just seek to help others come to a broader understanding of spirituality,

JJ

Maybe you see some false messiah complex in me because you are looking in the mirror at yourself. Just one more mean spirited, unloving, unjustified accusation with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Clay:

I just take his more grandiose claims with a bit of skepticism.

JJ

Another false accusation. I make no grandiose claims.

Clay

I do not see JJ as my teacher, or father, he seems to be my equal, so I will treat him as such, as should you.

JJ

We do treat each other here as equals here, but we are all at different stages on the path possessing different knowledge on different things. Don’t tell me you are going to be like Allan and spend many posts trying to teach us and then insist you are not a teacher.

People come hear to learn what I have to teach. I made the mistake of inviting you and Jim here who have no interest in anything I teach so it turns out all you do is distract the group from what it is they have chosen to learn. Posts like yours force me to delay my next teaching post and answer all kinds of false statements and accusations.

If this s not the environment you want then we are fine with the idea that you drop out and find a group that will accept you.

That may be difficult as I know of no other group who wants to be saturated with accusations and distortions of their thinking while being preached to of the love of Jesus.

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Clay:

The difference is JJ I did not see this as a Spanish Class.

JJ Then you must be the only one with an imagination wild enough to not see my point. Of course, this is not a Spanish class but it matters not what you teach, the teacher must keep the students focused on the material with a minimum of distractions.

Clay:

In high level intellectual classes as long as the opinion expressed is on topic, all sides and points of views are expressed.

JJ

If this is what you think then why are you never on topic but try and set your own agenda? I do not recall you commenting on any teaching post I have made. Instead, you conjure up what I do not teach and comment on that. This approach would not be accepted by any teacher out there. Most students here think I am way too tolerant of off topic challenges.

Clay

A good teacher does not get upset when students disagree, even vehemently, he allows the dissuasion as long as the views are supported with decent argument.

JJ

You have no power to upset me and no one upsets me by merely disagreeing. I find it unacceptable to insult, make false accusations and divert the class away from the things they came here to learn. That is very selfish to get the class centered around the one at the expense of the interests of the many.

Clay:

This is not a Spanish Class. This is supposed to be a spiritual classroom where you teach on the ideas of Jess, Buddha, an other spiritual teachers. So from what I can tell, my post are perfectly on topic.

JJ

There are thousands of topics in spirituality and you have not been on topic. You only lead us away from what we want to discuss. You want to talk about duality, but we have already spent months and hundreds of thousands of words discussing every aspect of it. Older members just sigh when this overworn subject is brought up again. It is strange how almost every contrarian that comes here preaches to us the same things about duality with the fervor of a fundamentalist Baptist.

Duality is not on topic, especially if nothing new on the subject is addressed.

Clay:

I am also not interferon (interfering) with any of your ability to teach or for anyone to learn. If you choose to respond to my post repeatedly, that is solely on you, same with every other forum member on here.

JJ

If I do not respond to people who accuse I get asked as to why I do not respond by some. However, I am just about done responding and will put you on moderation if necessary to get us back on track as you cause quite a few others to digress also.

So please, be kind like the Jesus you advocate and cease to accuse just to be accusing and throw in some constructive thinking and ideas on the subjects at hand as we move along.

You seem to be treating Richard with some respect and you did me in he beginning so it is within your ability to do this.

 

July 24, 2015

Astrology and Past Lives

Adam writes:

How significant is an astrological birth chart to an astrological death chart in the identification of a past life? I assume two such charts could have numerous parallels and yet be mere coincidence, just based upon the numbers of birth/death occurrences, and the cyclical nature of charts. So, is it merely something to consider as additional evidence of a suspected past life, or is there some real evidence to consider when comparing similarities of things like, Sun, Rising, and other signs . . .???

JJ

Good question. I have never done a death chart nor have I heard of any other astrologer using one. If your birth chart tells us of energies at play during life them maybe a death chart would give energies at play in the immediate life after death.

It would be interesting to compare a number of death charts to future lives.

What some have done in an attempt to prove reincarnation is to compare the natal chart of a supposed past life to a current one. David Wilcock, who believes he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce has done this. Here is the site where he makes the comparison.

LINK

The problem with looking for similarities is that we often select entirely new influences for ourselves as we will be dealing with new challenges as we progress from life to life. Therefore, it is unlikely that one will be able to prove reincarnation by similarities in natal charts.

The exception may be a failed life where the soul tries to retrace its steps in a new life. A person who commits suicide in one life may wind up with some close similarities in another. On the other hand, a soul in a high state of progression may enter a new life with striking contrasts to the other in his new natal chart.

Astrologers generally believe the nodes of the moon give us hints about karma we have to deal with from past lives. Here is one person’s interpretation of the nodes:

The SOUTH MOON NODE is symbolic of your past, your Achilles Heel—the footsteps you have left behind during prior lifetimes. It signifies the karmic residue that you have yet to balance or transmute. The magnetic pull of your SOUTH MOON NODE can feel like a heavy burden that you are carrying until its lessons are learned—it may pull you backward if you are not consciously aware of its presence and choosing to move forward toward your NORTH MOON NODE.

THE NORTH MOON NODE is the symbol for the future—the new cycle to which your look forward. This Node magnetically pulls your Soul toward its future growth. Divine Providence offers much help in this forward movement. Deep within, you will feel a sense of direction … your purpose spurs you on in spite of all the obstacles. Your NORTH MOON NODE “symbolizes the highest area of expression to be reached in the current life and therefore must be interpreted by the highest qualities of the sign and house in which it is located.”

“The most amazing feature about the NORTH MOON NODE is that however much [you] achieve it, there is always more to go—as it truly represents [your] everlasting spiral towards God.”

LINK

Another theory is that retrograde planets in a chart indicate negative past life karma that must be worked out.

DK gives some additional food for thought. He tells us that most of us progress around the zodiac in a clockwise motion, until we enter our last round and perform the Twelve Labors of Hercules in twelve different lives (or cycles). Then we move counterclockwise.

I believe that this is a general rule of direction and not a black and white thing. From my investigations it seems that there is a general trend of the soul to move in order but not exact enough to be able to predict the sign that one will be born into in the next life.

Another thing he said was that a person’s death date will determine a future birth date. From my own research I found this sometimes happens but generally does not. Either he is mistaken or Alice A. Bailey left something out in the transmission. It is quite possible that the time of death will indicate a future life, but not necessarily the one in the immediate future. Similarly as we pass through the zodiac we will often take a break from our next hurdle and choose a natal chart to our liking.

Our free will is always a factor with any event that occurs to us.

Now David Wilcock, who claims to be Edgar Cayce, may be one of the few out there making a claim who is correct. There are some interesting similarities between the two.

He was born in the same sign as Cayce which would indicate unfinished work in that sign from the last life. On the other hand, his birth direction was clockwise indicating he is not yet a high initiate.

Cayce died on Jan 3 1945 and Wilcock was born March 8, 1973 so there is no relation here between the death and birth day.

It would be nice if we could use astrology for concrete purposes and as a means for exact predictions, but such is not he case. Astrology deals with energies and their influences and because each of us handles energies differently exactness in prediction or the discovery of past lives cannot be something on which we can depend.

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 15

This entry is part 17 of 73 in the series 2015

July 4, 2015

Madam Blavatsky

Good article. (LINK) The reader may find it of interest that DK acknowledged that Blavatsky fabricated most of the Mahatma letters. She still had some of the charlatan in her left over from the life as Count Cagliostro. I have read several accounts of her life and there was definitely some supernatural events involved with her but I think she felt that she had to add some magical tricks now and then to keep the work growing. Unfortunately, this causes many impartial observers and critics to discount all that she did.

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Destroying the Soul

I finally have a moment to respond to Ken who wrote:

First, let me remind you about the “firstfruits” of the harvest. Yahweh Elohim is following a very specific plan, in which a select few are harvested FIRST, and that harvest is small, only the Elect. The rest of mankind will be harvested and gathered according to the timetable set forth by The Father, and that harvest will bring forth ALL who are Children of Elohim, to Eternal Life. Then on the other hand, those who have proven they are children of Satan, they will be likened to Judas, sons of perdition/destruction (John 17:12), and they will be LOST. If the percentage holds true as patterned by Judas, then about 1/12th of mankind will have their bodies and souls DESTROYED by the One who is able to destroy in the Gehenna, and He should be feared:

JJ

I have to admit that this is not a typical fundamentalist interpretation of salvation percentages, but you definitely have a fundamentalist approach to seeing the scriptures as being free of error and needing a literal interpretation in most cases. I need to ask you some questions to clarify your belief. You say that you believe 11 out of 12 people will obtain eternal life.

So, do you believe that 11 out of 12 people who lived in the days of Jesus are now saved and enjoying heavenly bliss? If not when will this happen and how? Will the 11 out of 12 receive the same reward as you?

As evidence that we can be destroyed into oblivion you cite several scriptures, the most potent of which is:

Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in the Gehenna. Mt 10:28

So, does this mean we are in danger of being completely annihilated by our loving Father/Mother God?

First let us look at a couple other scriptures. Here is the basic idea repeated by Luke:

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God? But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. Luke 12:5-7

So, here we are told that none of us are forgotten before God, for we are worth many sparrows. This would include the worst of us. And what parent is there among us that would give up on his child, even when he makes a grievous error? Jesus said that God is an even more loving parent than we are.

This is evidenced by this scripture:

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Tim 2:3-4

So, then, it is the will of God that all be saved and if one believes that God has power to fulfill that which he wills then one must conclude that ALL will be saved and NONE will be annihilated.

Ken gives Judas as an example of one who will be destroyed, but of him it was written:

The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. Matt 26:24

Now if Judas did not exist before birth and is annihilated after death, then how could it be that it would have been good for him to not have been born? How can non existence after death be worse than non existence before birth???

Does not compute.

It is true that with a few failed entities will suffer destruction of, not only the physical but the other bodies used by the soul and they will return to the monad for recycling to get another chance in another system. Eventually, all will be saved, just as the scripture says,

Our initial; essence, the monad, is a part of God. To completely destroy us would mean that God is destroying himself and a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

God’s kingdom does stand and he nurtures all the lives that are a part of his eternal being.

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Diet of World’s Oldest Person

Susannah Mushatt Jones, the world’s oldest documented person at 116 puts her longevity down to eating bacon and eggs every morning for over a century.

A sign on her kitchen wall reads “Bacon makes everything better”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11721581/Worlds-oldest-person-116-eats-diet-of-bacon-and-eggs.html

 

July 8, 2015

More on Soul

Ken:

please answer this question. Do you believe the following statement:

LDS Apostle B. H. Roberts wrote, “Saddening as the thought may seem, the Church founded by the labors of Jesus and His Apostles was destroyed from the earth”

JJ

Do not agree. The church was not destroyed but hidden in the wilderness.

Rev 12:6 And the woman (the church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Roberts quote continued:

the Gospel was perverted; its ordinances were changed; its laws were transgressed;

JJ

Pretty much agree. Some Christian sects were much worse than others at altering things according to their desires.

Roberts:

its covenant was, on the part of man, broken;

JJ

Not sure which covenant he was talking about.

Roberts:

and the world was left to flounder in the darkness of a long period of apostasy from God… a universal apostasy from the Christian doctrine and the Christian Church took place”

JJ

Most of the world has been floundering in darkness, even when master teachers such as Jesus were here, but there have always been pockets of light upon the earth.

I asked:

Do you believe that at death we continue existence in a spirit world or do you think like the Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses that the soul sleeps at death and then will be brought back to life at the judgment to be either annihilated or given eternal life? If you do not think like them then how is your belief different?

Ken:

Yes, there are differences. For the unbelieving, at death, they know nothing, and they gain nothing, but for the righteous at death, that when they depart this fleshly life, they do have a gain in being WITH Messiah, and when He returns, He will bring them with Him.

JJ

Don’t see much difference here. Those churches think that the righteous will not seem to spend any time sleeping but will seem to instantly be with Jesus.

So, where are the faithful apostles of Jesus? Are they sleeping or are they alive with Jesus? Are they with him in physical bodies or spiritual ones?

I asked::

How are the 11 out of 12 who are not saved yet going to obtain salvation on your eighth day? Is there any hope for Hitler?

Ken

Salvation is a matter of being saved FROM being a sinner, and yes, there is hope for Hitler on the 8th Great Day.

JJ

So, I take it that you believe, like the Jehovah Witnesses, that Hitler is in an unconscious sleep and will be reconstituted on your eighth day. When the pieces of him are put back together then what will he have to do to be saved? Just say, “I believe!” or something more?

6 million Jews may have a problem singing praises side by side with him.

JJ

Is there any book, teacher or spiritual writing available that represents your beliefs outside of the Bible?

Ken

No.

JJ

I would say that you have a problem then if you cannot find any teaching that is in harmony with you even if you search all of recoded history for thousands of years. After all the Bible is only one book containing only a few fragmented truths here and there and not presented with much clarity.

God is really falling down on the job if you and your brother are the only ones on the planet who are a source of the truth. Where is your Paul, your Moses, your Elijah, or even your Allan Cronshaw to help you get the message out?

Ken:

I have told you, the One True Church or Assembly was completely destroyed, not one Living Stone was left upon another, the MOON was turned to BLOOD as fierce wolves attacked, and DID NOT SPARE the Flock. Traditional/fundamental christianity is what rose up in the place of the One True Church, and you want to compare me to them? That really surprises me.

JJ

Your beliefs may be different, as hundreds of fundamentalists have different interpretations, but you are like them in that you accept the Bible as the only book you can trust and see it as without error. That is a fundamentalist approach. Herbert W. Armstrong also took a fundamentalist approach and came to different conclusions than others. Why would anyone think you are more correct in your interpretations than he was? He was at least believable enough to get a large following.

Ken:

Concerning 11 out of 12 who lived at the time of Yeshua? Yeshua stated that His generation would not fair too well in the judgment. So their percentages may not be as good as those who were never exposed to LIGHT, as His generation was. You see, for judgment to be true and fair, those being judged must FIRST be exposed to the Light, and for many, that will not happen until the 8th Great Day. But those who have been exposed to the Light, and reject it, will not fair well in the regeneration.

JJ

It sounds like in this generation just you, your brother and maybe a couple close associates are guaranteed salvation and the only hope for the rest is the vague eighth day of reconstitution you speak of, of which almost nothing is revealed.

How will the unwashed masses be saved on the eighth day and will they receive the same reward as you, who (as you believe) see and obey the light now?

Ken:

Finally, your take on 1 Tim 2:3-4 is misunderstood on your part. Paul is not saying “God’s” WILL is that all be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. The Greek word used for “will” is G2309, and Paul uses it here also:

2Cor 12:6 For though I would desire (G2309) to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but [now] I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me [to be], or [that] he heareth of me.

JJ

It is amazing that you hold the Bible in esteem above all other books but do not accept what it says. Let me repeat the scripture where you say it doesn’t say it is God’s will that all be saved:

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Tim 2:3-4

The words “will have” comes from Strongs G2309 (or the Greek THELŌ) as you say, but the first meaning given by Strongs is “to determine” and the first given by the Blue Letter Bible is “to will, have in mind, intend.”

The Concordant Version which gives us the most accurate literal translations reads thus:

“Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to a realization of the truth.”

Here is a couple other scriptures where it is used:

And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, (THELŌ) thou canst make me clean. And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; (THELŌ) be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. Mat 8:2-3

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, (THELŌ) but as thou wilt ((THELŌ, implied). Mat 26:39

The meaning of THELŌ can vary a bit with the context. In addition “to will, have in mind, intend” it can also mean to desire as you say, but there is not a lot of difference between one having power to fulfill desire or will. If God desires a thing then he also wills it and can make it happen. If you had the power and desired salvation for your child would you not make sure he achieved it?

Ken

Elohim can “desire” that all men be saved and that they come to a knowledge of the Truth, but does that mean that all men WOULD come to a knowledge of the Truth, and be saved?

JJ

So, then, you are saying that God has no power to fulfill his desire or will. That doesn’t sound like your normal thinking.

Ken:

Think along the lines of a loving father desiring his children to be saved from the evils of life and coming to know the right things to do. Does it mean that ALL of his children will do this just because he desires it?

JJ

But God has power to fulfill his will and has all eternity to do it. A child will always make the right choice given enough time and encouragement. It may take over 1000 lifetimes but we all will eventually get things right.

One reason you do not like the obvious interpretation of this scripture is because we would need reincarnation for it to be true.

Ken:

Your explanation of Judas having been better off to have never been born doesn’t make much sense, in light of 2 Pet 2:20-22, and in light of “the soul who sins shall die.”

JJ

There is nothing in that verse that contradicts anything I have said. If Judas did not exist before birth then why would it be worse for him to not exist after God destroys him into non existence??? You have not explained why non existence after death is worse than non existence before birth. Unfortunately, you cannot explain this under your belief system whereas it makes perfect sense using my teachings.

Ken:

Consider that Elohim does not DESIRE the death of anyone?

JJ

And where do you get this idea? God created this world and designed it to have life and death so it could be a great schoolhouse of learning for us. You seem to think that poor old God is some powerless victim with his hands tied.

Ken

Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

JJ

The scripture says that God breathed into Adam the breath of life and he became a living soul. When he quits breathing the soul, as defined by the Old Testament, dies. This happens to all of us regular mortals.

If we could live without error (sin) then we could defeat the last enemy, death, and our human souls could live as long as we want.

At the death of the human soul the person is not extinguished but continues life on other planes of existence.

I would say that you are the one who needs to reevaluate your thinking here as it runs contrary to scripture, reason and common sense.

 

July 9, 2015

The Last Enemy

Jody asks about this scripture:

Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother (Lazarus) shall rise again.

Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. John 11:23-26

He asks: “Why does it sound like he’s repeating himself?”

JJ

Actually, he is not for he is talking about belief in two different situations.

(1) A belief in Christ in a conscious state after death. This was the situation with Lazarus. He had been separated from his body for over three days, or dead in the normal sense, and in this spiritual state had a conscious belief that Christ had power over death.

So here Jesus was telling Martha that though Lazarus is dead he will be brought to life because he was in a believing state on the other side.

(2) A belief in Christ while yet living. He stated that this entails an acceptance of his words of life into our being. If we properly do this and live by them as he did then death can have no power over us as it had no power over him. At this point the last enemy is destroyed.

True death is more than a separation from the body, but a separation from the soul and spirit. The fact that we die physically against our will is a sign that we are subject to a degree of spiritual death. This spiritual death is overcome by the acceptance and incorporation of the “words of life” from both the inner and outer Christ. Since we do not have all the words of the outer Christ, the inner must be sought. When one truly hears, believes and assimilates the Word (words of Christ) which Is God then all things become possible.

This scripture says it well:

“Angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore, they speak the words of Christ. Wherefore, I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do.” II Nephi 32:3

Here the reference is to the inner Christ which is linked to the outer.

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.” John 8:51

Jody also asks:

If the soul is the reflection of the higher self would that “by your teachings” mean that the male energies are negative at the higher self and the female energies are positive at the higher self if you we are a reflection.

JJ

The relation of male to female is relative to the relationship. Male is always the positive/sending pole and female is always the negative/receiving one.

Because we receive from the Higher Self and are not polarized as sending to it then we are female to it whether we are in a male or female body. On the other hand, the Higher Self receives from the Monad so it is female in relation to that and the Monad would be in the male situation.

If you are in a male body and are taught by another male then in this relationship you are in the female polarity and the teacher in the male.

If one in a female body is teaching a class of mixed genders then she is male to the students and all students are female to her.

Our bodies are just one manifestation of male/female energy. The male body sends the seed and the female receives it. Understanding the teachings of the inner Christ on balancing these energies within us is one of the keys to overcoming death as mentioned previously.

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The Pluto Mission

After waiting all my life we finally have a picture of Pluto with some details. The great part is when the flyby happens next Tuesday (July 14) we will get 500 times the details as we have now. This nine year trip to Pluto is all for getting one day’s worth of good photos and data since the spacecraft is going too fast to orbit the planet.

Here is the latest photo and article.

We will have to wait longer than planned to find out what that bright spot is on Ceres as they had a glitch they had to fix in the software. It looks like they are good to go and we should have some better photos in a few weeks.

 

July 10, 2015

Recognizing Initiates

Jody asks:

How does one know what initiation one is on?

JJ

We’ve covered this somewhat in the past, but it is always a subject of interest when the topic is brought up.

DK talks about ceremonies of recognition of the various initiations so a casual reader may assume that each initiate knows where he is because of some supernatural occurrence. This is normally not so obvious as these recognitions often take place between lives or while the person is in the sleeping state.

It is important to understand that a degree of initiation is merely the recognition of an achievement of mastery over certain areas of life and experience. If a person achieves mastery in a certain life and receives the ceremony in between lives, then he was an initiate in that life before he received the acknowledgment. In the true sense, once become an initiate when he achieves the inner power of control.

The journey to mastery and full entrance into the Kingdom of God consists of preparation and five initiations, or steps that assume control and remove limitations for the seeker.

In the preparatory step the seeker is considered an aspirant. The aspirant is one who is no longer satisfied receiving all his thinking and approval from the beast and starts thinking on his own. He begins to use his own mind and heart as he seeks for answers.

The first degree initiate is one who has achieved mastery over physical desires and can resist the pull of matter and materialism.

The churches prepare seekers for this mastery by dictating to them rules about sex and what they should eat and drink and where they should donate money. Right or wrong the rules help the seeker to develop self discipline which is essential to achieve the first major step.

Here are signs that the seeker has achieved the first degree.

  1. The Appetites

When under the belief that a certain diet or restriction was necessary he or she is able to adhere to it without deviation. No one can talk him into breaking rules that he has accepted into his life.

For instance, if the seeker was in a belief system where being a vegetarian was considered essential then he demonstrated power to be a strict vegetarian so long as he accepted that belief.

If he was a Mormon then he demonstrated power to completely abstain from smoking, alcohol, tea and coffee while he accepted that system.

If he sees he needs to go on a certain diet for his health then he has complete power to go on that diet and adhere to it to his satisfaction.

If he decides to go on fast from food or water then he will be able to fast as planned for the predetermined period. A ten day fast without food will be no problem for him as long as some physical deficiency does not interfere.

  1. Sex

If the seeker accepts a certain belief system concerning sex then he is able to adhere to it. If he believes sex outside of marriage or adultery is wrong then he simply will not do it. He will be able to resist the temptation.

The seeker looks at sex, decides which activity is correct and which is not, and then has the power to be true to that belief.

  1. Money

The first degree initiate has power to channel his money and resources to what he sees as his highest good. This “highest good” goes beyond service to self. If he has more than he needs for his essentials he seeks to do something with his resources that will benefit others.

He thus seeks to initiate good causes on the physical plane.

Overall first degree initiates and higher are very conscientious about their health, are faithful to their sexual beliefs and are willing to share in both poverty and wealth.

Now one may look at certain initiates and wonder how these guidelines apply to them.

For instance, Winston Churchill was definitely an initiate, but he was overweight, drank quite a bit of alcohol and smoked cigars. How did he demonstrate control?

Answer: All his eating and drinking was accepted by his belief system. He controlled his appetites to the extent he deemed necessary to have good health and lived to the age of 90 when the average lifespan for his generation was below 65.

If one studies his history he sees that Churchill was sable to put his appetites under control when it was necessary.

So how about JFK and other apparent initiates who seemed to have no control over their sex lives?

It is true that some initiates get caught up in deviating from sexual norms. If the person is a first degree initiate then the source of the problem will be illusion rather than lack of control. The pull of sex is powerful and many first and second degree initiates get caught up in a belief system that gives them internal permission to go outside the normal standards.

In the case of JFK – he was taught about sex by his father and accepted his father’s philosophy on relationships above that of the church and thus was caught up in an illusion on this matter. There were times in his life where he demonstrated great self control over he physical side of life.

Overall the first degree initiate (and higher) has demonstrated control over appetite, sex and money, but under the guidelines of his belief system.

 

July 11, 2015

Coming out of the Wilderness

Ruth:

Or is the church coming out of “hiding” with your principles and teachings? Please clarify this for me.

We are coming out of hiding………

JJ

First it is important to realize what the true church is. The true church is not an organization, a dogma or a certain set of rules. The true church has always been composed of those people residing on the earth who have some degree of communion with the inner Christ, have a Christ-like love for their fellow men and women and seek to fulfill a perceived aspect of the Will of God. In the scriptures these people are called the pure in heart.

During times that these spiritual people are openly gathered in any significant degree the church is considered as being out of the wilderness. If gathering is not possible or too dangerous then the church is considered as being in the wilderness.

The internet is a medium that allows many to gather out of the wilderness to a degree. They are not brought physically together but are brought together so they can communicate. This is a productive first step that may lead to a complete coming out of the wilderness for the church.

 

July 11, 2015

The Lost Sheep

Ken:

Yeshua would bring forth a 2nd Witness to Testify concerning the One True Gospel. Demons KNOW and understand WE are COMING, and this is WHY they have raised up counterfeits such as the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses who claim to be the True Witness. You are just an offshoot of that, and you would do well to consider what we say.

JJ

The problem is that we have considered what you say and you not only teach contrary to the scriptures, but you make no sense.

According to you, for almost two thousand years God has been so powerless that only you and your brother (and maybe a couple family members) have seen the light for over a 1000 years. That is an example of glamour if I ever heard one and I would strongly suspect that the glamour is so strong that you two see yourselves connected with the two witnesses from the Book of Revelation. Am I right on this?

The Mormons make a much better case that they are a second witness for Christ and their argument has been strong enough to convince over 15,000,000 people. Even so, there are plenty of flaws in their doctrines.

You have been adamant that the scriptures do not say what they say. For instance Paul plainly wrote:

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Tim 2:3-4

The words “will have” comes from the Greek THELŌ but the first meaning given by Strongs is “to determine” and the first given by the Blue Letter Bible is “to will, have in mind, intend.”

The Concordant Version which gives us the most accurate literal translations reads thus:

“Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to a realization of the truth.”

I do not think you have convinced anyone here that the scripture says anything different than it plainly states which is that God wills, determines or desires that all eventually be saved and that he has power to accomplish that which he wills.

This is clearly related in the parable of the lost sheep:

Matt 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Matt 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

Matt 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

Matt 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

So here we have it again. It is not within the will of God that even one of his children should perish. When we go astray God himself will go “into the mountains” and the ends of the earth and time to help us and bring us back to our senses so we can embrace the light. He is committed to work with us “until the last weary pilgrim finds his way home.”

Now let us shift away from the scriptures to common sense.

Jesus says that God is a better and more loving parent than earthly parents.

What earthly parent that has any love in his soul does not care for all his children no matter what mistakes they make? What loving parent would not go to the mountains, to the desserts, to the cities to find his lost child who is in great danger?

If we are good enough to make such an effort, then, according to the words of Jesus, God will be better than us and go further than us to save his children.

We mortals are often unable to fulfill our will, but not so with God. If God wants to save all his children then he has the power to do it and will do it.

Because we have free will he has to work with that will but sooner or later the prodigal son gets tired of eating food with the hogs and desires to return to his fathers house where even the lowest of servants fare much better. When he returns he finds that the father has been waiting for him and will restore him to his rightful place as his son.

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Making Sense of Truth

For one who puts the Bible on such a pedestal, making it the only book you can trust, you seem to not go much by what it actually says.

For instance, you say that the two witnesses

“are two GROUPS of Believers testifying to the Truth of the One True Gospel. The FIRST Witness testified two days ago (2000 years ago), and the SECOND Witness is close to giving It’s testimony in our day.”

Here is what is actually written about the two witnesses:

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

These verses make no sense when applying them to two groups existing 2000 years apart from each other. I could write 10,000 words explaining this but just these two examples:

First, it has them working together. You have them working 2000 years apart.

Secondly, all the people of the earth see their dead bodies lying in the streets of Jerusalem (together – not 2000 years apart).

Ken:

There are numerous Scriptures which show the wicked will be DESTROYED, and NOT saved

JJ

The destruction talked about is usually that of their physical bodies. Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that the consciousness of anyone will go into non-existence. We have physical bodies, astral bodies and mental bodies that are all subject to destruction of some kind if we are careless n enough.

The reason the fate of Judas was going to be worse than not being born is because he will still exist as an eternal being and his state after death would be worse than before birth.

You have no explanation that makes any sense as to why Jesus said this about Judas as (in your belief) non existence before birth would be the same (not worse) than non existence after death.

What you have done is merely read the Bible in the light of your own mind and come up with various interpretations, just like hundreds of other belief systems. Then you present them as true whether they make any sense or not just like the hundreds of other Christian sects. What makes you different from them?

Nothing.

On the other hand, this group is different in that we do not accept anything unless it makes sense and that applies to all things written in the Bible, Alice A. Bailey writings or anything else out there.

In the end – if a thing is true it will make sense.

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Okay, Ken, I think I have gone overboard in allowing you to have your say in a Bible direction that is of little interest to the group. I can easily counter anything you say and you, or most other Bible believers, can come up with some reason why you are right by either a literal or figurative application of the scriptures. This just illustrates why there are hundreds of different churches using the same Bible yet coming up with widely different doctrines. All proclaim, “But we are the ones going by what the scriptures really say…”

It is time to move on now and talk about teachings that involve principles that make sense and have applications along the path of liberation.

Since you do not believe in our concept of liberation you may find yourself in no man’s land here and attempt to revert back to converting us to something we left behind long ago. If we wanted that we would be watching The Good Time Gospel Hour.

At this time I advise the group to ignore you unless you are posting on topic. The current one is the initiations.

 

July 13, 2015

Initiation and Judgment

In attempting to give guidelines so readers can have a basis of figuring out where they are upon the path imperfection is to be expected. This is a subject where a black and white reading of such guidelines will not work.

Now if a representative of the beast had an initiation program then black and white steps would be the norm. Because initiates are mostly free from the beast they are able to make judgments internally about their next step and what control is necessary to accomplish it.

When I was under some control of the beast (up to age 33) within the Mormon Church I had to go to the Bishop once a year to answer questions to determine my worthiness to enter the Temple. The questions asked demanded a black and white yes or no answer such as:

  1. Do you pay your tithing (10% of your income to the church)?
  2. Have you been obedient to the Word of Wisdom. That is did you smoke, drink any alcohol tea or coffee?
  3. Have you had any sexual transgressions?
  4. Do you sustain the leaders of the church?

The list goes on but this gives one the general idea. The answers are all yes or no? While I supported the church I was always able to give the expected answers and was deemed worthy to enter the temple.

Later, after 1978, when I freed myself from the last vestiges of the beast my path was no longer influenced by outside authority, but an inside one. When I became totally dependent on the God within the black and white “yes or no” often did not apply.

Now let us examine how my approach is different.

  1. Do you pay your tithing?

I do not pay any money to any church, but I do give all that is feasible to the goal of assisting my brothers and sisters in their journey home. I now feel much more satisfaction about how my substance is used.

  1. Have you been obedient to the Word of Wisdom?

That is did you smoke, drink any alcohol tea or coffee?

When I supported the church I completely abstained from these things. When I was left to my own judgment I reassessed everything. I decided that coffee, tea and some alcohol had some benefits and could be used wisely according to the circumstance. Smoking seemed to cause much more harm than good so I abstained from that, though I wouldn’t be beyond smoking a cigar on a special occasion.

  1. Have you had any sexual transgressions?

When I was in the church sex outside of marriage was a big sin, but after leaving it the decision was completely in my hands so I looked at the principles involved concerning sex. I therefore decided to live for a time with my current wife before we had a legal marriage because we already were living by the principles of marriage. We were committed to each other and neither of us were violating a commitment to anyone else. The legal piece of paper made no difference in our relationship.

  1. Do you sustain the leaders of the church?

I currently sustain any leader who is doing what I consider to be the right thing and oppose those who in any way lead us in a direction that will imprison the souls of mankind.

Now do not assume that I was under a total black and white control while in the church. I always followed the inner voice above the outer. Going through a period of church membership was something necessary for my total learning experience in this life. It brought me to a total realization as to exactly what the beast was.

These examples from my own life illustrate the different approaches a disciple will take under two different circumstances, and when freed completely from the outer voice how one then will use his own judgment as to what to eat or drink etc.

The general guideline for the first degree initiate is this. The seeker will demonstrate control to his own soul over his appetites, sex and money. His soul is the judge of the matter, not you or I. This is why non initiates have difficulty in recognizing initiates, but initiates can generally recognize each other because they have a degree of soul contact.

 

July 14, 2015

The Pluto Flyby

The New Horizons Spacecraft has finally flown by Pluto at a distance of 7800 miles. The first images will be in the hands of NASA around 7 PM tonight MDT. They did release a new image as the craft approached from about twice the distance of the moon from the earth. The telescopic lens brings it up closer than it would normally appear from that distance. Check it out here:

LINK

It will be interesting to see close up images of Pluto and its moons in the next couple days. The craft is operating on a plutonium battery producing just 220 watts and will take 16 months to send back all the data it has gathered during the few minutes of the flyby. The transmission rate is slower than the old telephone modems.

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The Sword of Excalibur

JJ [archives] wrote:

“Joseph was told in a revelation to “take the sword of my Spirit which I shall pour out upon you”. (D&C 27:18) This is the true sword of Excalibur which is given out from time to time.” – https://freeread.com/archives/707.html

Dan:

So the “true sword of Excalibur” is the “sword of my [God’s] spirit”? What does that mean?

JJ

It is written that, “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh…” Genesis 6:3

The fullness of the power of the spirit is not always available but a full connection is possible during certain cycles that are in the hands of the Great Ones.

When a full connection is made by the uniting of heaven and earth through contact made with us mere mortals then Excalibur rises again from the waters that hide the true spirit. When this occurs, those with pure intent can take the sword of the Spirit and prevail over the opposing forces of materialism and carnal desire.

Windows have opened and closed in the past. I am waiting for another opening.

This goes beyond normal soul contact which is always available.

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Problems of the Second Degree

The First Degree initiate has proven to his soul (who cares what anyone else thinks) that the pull of the forces of matter will not negatively impact him as he journeys on the path if return.

Next he must face the even larger problem of neutralizing the distractions caused by the emotional body. I said that the steps of showing the mastery over the physical are not black and white… Well, the criteria for accomplishing the second initiation is even much less black and white. The illusions and glamours keeping the pilgrim from seeing the necessary steps to be taken for the mastering of the emotional body are great indeed.

From one point of view this is the most difficult of initiations. It is not because the steps to be taken are so strenuous and hard, but because the steps are so difficult to see and accept.

One of the major problems with the mastery of the emotional nature is the influence of glamours which affects the ego.

This is illustrated in the parable of Jesus about the higher and lower rooms:

When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.

But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.

For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. Luke 14:8-11

Our emotional body is hell bent on convincing the ego that it is the center of the universe and that it is at a higher station or place on the path than it actually is. When the seeker is thus given the choice of seeing himself as in a higher or lower state his emotional self will push him to select the higher, just as did the guy in the parable.

Eventually, the day of reckoning comes where the truth becomes known and, if one discovers that he overestimated his status, he will find himself somewhat humiliated.

If he is humble and willing to accept himself, no matter where he may be then he will not be disappointed, but may wind up pleasantly surprised when his soul reveals that he is at a higher station than he thought.

Understanding the humility of taking the “lowest room” is itself beset with the glamour of false humility. Some, who see humility as a great virtue, will go out of their way to project it in a black and white manner, always proclaiming themselves to be incompetent, or not as good as others, or playing the martyr. This glamour fools some into thinking the guy is really humble, but instead this glamour feeds he ego because the emotional body feels it is really taking the “highest room” by creating this artificial humility.

Real humility does not feed the ego or seek for praise from anyone. Neither does real humility discount one’s real talents and abilities. DK basically says that real humility is recognizing your true place on the path and acting accordingly. He uses these words:

humility must always accompany a spiritual self-respect which forbids a disciple to stand anywhere upon the Path, except in his rightful place.

The problem is that the rightful place is sometimes difficult to see. If one does not know it then the phrase “known abilities” would apply.

Here are a few more of his words:

(Humility) equips its possessor with a balanced point of view as to himself, his responsibilities and his life work. This, when present, will enable him to view himself dispassionately and his presented opportunities with equal dispassion.

True humility is based on fact, on vision and on time pressures … I would remind you that there must always be humility in the presence of true vision.

He needs also to cultivate that true humility which will force him to give all he has in selfless service, and then to forget that he has thus given of himself. He must have no thought of himself as a factor in the case. Only when detachment and humility are present can a disciple really serve. Cultivate, therefore, these qualities and continue the giving of yourself in service.

Glamours are distortions of reality filtered through the emotional body. The fogs they create that prevent true vision can only be lifted through true humility with the seeker making a great effort to see things as they really are.

In addition to false humility common glamours that need to be overcome are.

The glamour of the place on the path. This causes the seeker to take the higher room, as in the parable. This is a very common one for beginners. Many with this glamour will be found proclaiming themselves to having lived famous past lives which are figments of their imagination.

The glamour of magnified self-importance. Some feel that God or the Hierarchy is depending on them and not much can be accomplished without them.

The glamour of the watcher. This person feels superior enough to be the watcher for iniquity in the group and sees it as his mission to reveal the flaws of others while not understanding his own.

The glamour of spiritual dominance or control over others. This person seeks to associate with weaker minds than himself so he can retain an air of superiority. This will cause him to dismiss someone who can truly assist him.

The glamour of devotion. This leads the seeker in the opposite direction in that he is so devoted to his teacher, teaching, belief or thoughtform that he looks neither to the left or the right to see the full reality present.

The glamour of failure. This person may claim to believe in the eventual triumph of good, but in the short run he always anticipates lots of problems, and opposition that will produce failure. Amazingly, he achieves the failure he sees coming.

The glamour of the victim. This is similar to the previous one but with a twist. He thinks he can’t succeed because people are out to get him or do not treat him fairly.

The glamour of personality. This person is impressed by teachers more because of the power of their personality than by their actual words and works – the two witnesses. He is likely to say something like, “I looked into his eyes and I just knew he was a man of God.” He will praise his teacher, priest, reverend or prophet more for being a wonderful personality than for any truth he has received.

The glamour of desire. He judges truth by what he desires it to be rather than what he sees it to be.

These are just a few of the popular glamours out of hundreds that could be named. The task of finding them in ourselves and then dispelling them is a Herculean task indeed.

 

July 15, 2015

Signs of the Second Initiation

The First Initiation is sometimes called “the birth of the Christ in the Heart” and it corresponds to the birth of Jesus. Hundreds of lifetimes pass before this is achieved.

The Second Initiation corresponds to the baptism at around the age of 30. The third corresponds to the transfiguration and the fourth to the experience in the garden and the crucifixion. Notice that once initiation has begun that the greatest distance by far in time is between the first and the second. Even so, it is with disciples, because the second is so difficult to pass because of the upside down vision and reasoning of the emotional body.

Polarizing oneself in the mind yet being detached from the emotions, while still allowing oneself to feel all there is to feel and allowing the emotional body to live freely, is a difficult accomplishment indeed.

Here are signs that the disciple has achieved or nearly achieved the Second Initiation.

(1) First and foremost he (or she) will not take offense when no offense is intended.

The seeker will find that many who are assumed to be masters or have achieved some type of liberation and display a lot of control over the physical side (maybe passed the First Initiation) will just go to pieces when challenged or criticized.

To one who understands the steps of progression this is like the guy is waving is hands and saying, “Hey, guys, I’m not at the Second Degree yet!”

(2) His peace will still be in place when offense is intended. He will register the offense as intentional and deal with it from a mental level, only attempting to correct, not to hurt or insult. Personal attacks using words like stupid, hypocrite, liar etc will be avoided if at all possible.

Someone can insult him by shouting in his face and he can politely answer back with a smile. (This will often inflame the guy even more).

(3) Harmlessness. He will seek to do no harm to others, either physically or emotionally. He will attempt to see the Christ in even the worst of those he encounters.

(4) What he accepts as truth will be decided by reason and soul perception, not emotional sound bytes. He will always look at the underlying truth behind emotionally charged words, actions and events.

“If the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit” would not have much effect on the initiate of the second degree. Neither would merely stating “hope and change” over and over.

(5) He has neutralized and overcome the martyr complex.

Life is often tough for the would be initiate and the temptation is great to see himself as a victim of all kinds of things such as:

(A) Ill Health. It may seem that he has been singled out to suffer while others less worthy get a pass.

(B) Attacks or bad treatment from family, friends and associates. It seems that others are treated much better than he is.

(C) The general unfairness from happenings and relationships in his life.

The second degree initiate sees beyond all these things and looks at the synthetic whole. He realizes that he is the prime creator of his own reality and overall life. He sees that through numerous incarnations life treats him as fairly as anyone else. He assumes control over that which he can change and accepts without complaint that which he cannot change.

Example: If his boss does not promote him when he knows he deserves it, and there is nothing he can do to change his mind, he will either accept the situation or seek other employment. He will not go through the “poor me” experience for he sees himself as in charge of his overall life.

(6) He will react pleasantly to criticism whether it be fair or unfair. Sometimes a totally outrageous criticism may require a strong emotional response, but this will be decided by the mind and the reaction will be harmless in intent.

(7) The ego will be under control and the seeker will not be adversely affected by glamours, some of which were discussed previously.

This power is difficult to detect by observers or the seeker himself because glamours are so numerous and often very subtle and difficult to see. Only the powers of the soul can rightly judge the disciple to be free of their influence.

(8) Strong soul contact. The seeker will rely on the soul over the personality and trust its guidance as he journeys through life. He knows the difference between communication with the soul and impressions from his emotional self. Emotional influence comes under the full power of the mind and soul.

That gives us a few clues as to this important step. Even so, only those who are ready will see them accurately.

He who guards his words, and who only speaks with altruistic purpose, in order to carry the energy of Love through the medium of the tongue, is one who is mastering rapidly the initial steps to be taken in preparation for initiation. Speech is the most occult manifestation in existence; it is the means of creation and the vehicle for force. In the reservation of words, esoterically understood, lies the conservation of force; in the utilisation of words, justly chosen and spoken, lies the distribution of the love force of the solar system,—that force which preserves, strengthens, and stimulates. DK

Initiation Human and Solar, Pg 74

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Ruth:

You can curse as much as you want …………………………….as long as there is no negative energy behind the words imo……….

JJ

Swearing may have it’s place and there are times it may even add power to your words but most of the time it will represent the scattering of force under the direction of the emotional body, rather than mind. In these cases where the emotions tell you to @##$%%^ – instead go in the zone ++++++++. This can be done without suppressing any emotions of grievance.

I have to admit though that when I drop an anvil on my toe I may let out a few choice words.

 

July 17, 2015

Historical Hindsight

Many mistakes are made when we try and reverse engineer history. Many historians write as if the problems of World War II would have been solved if we had just taken out Hitler before the war. On hindsight almost everything thinks that would have been a good idea.

Let us suppose for a moment that Churchill had been in power instead of Chamberlain and decided to do just that. What would have been the probable outcome? Few have considered this but here is the way I see it.

First of all, it would have been a very unpopular move and Churchill would have been demonized by the media, his political opposition and many countries of the world, even if FDR supported the move.

Invading Germany, even before Hitler completed his war machine, would have been very expensive and there would have been many additional complaints about the money spent.

Now, let us suppose the invasion was successful. Churchill won the combat war and killed Hitler. What next?

He had to keep the peace, install a new government and assist the people in a transition back to normal democracy.

So… Would all the faithful Nazis have just accepted the defeat and rolled over?

Not hardly. The Nazi’s were fierce fighters and smart and would have resisted in any way possible. They were not dumb enough to go on suicide missions but they would have created bombs, poison gas or whatever was at their disposal to attack the occupying government and sabotage them.

As the heat was turned up on them the worst of the bunch would have fled to Fascists Italy under the friendly Mussolini. After this here is what may have happened.

Churchill undergoes even more criticism after several years of occupation. It appears that they can never create a successful transition.

Churchill sees the problems and tells the people that it is important that they stay the course and make sure the provisional government is kept free from the power of the Nazis and Mussolini. England and America must do what it takes to keep the peace until stability evolves.

Unfortunately, Churchill is voted out of power and Chamberlain takes the reigns under the slogan “peace in our time” along with the mantra of “hope and change.”

Chamberlain withdraws all the troops from Germany telling the Germans that it is time for them to stand on their own and resist the Nazis and fascists.

Because the withdrawal was announced in advance the Nazis saw their day of opportunity and organized to take advantage of this time. They took with them all the forces possible from Italy and united with Nazis still in Germany, and piece by piece, started again to occupy Germany.

Many saw the error of their ways, but still Chamberlain did nothing in hopes that the problem would just go away.

It did not.

Eventually another election was held and Chamberlain was replaced with someone with a bit of common sense. With the support of the people and with aid from the United States they were able to drive out the Nazis and over the next eight years stabilize the government of Germany.

The end result?

There were many problems to handle but World War II was avoided and 6,000,000 Jews were not exterminated. The huge advantage to the world was that the evil genius Hitler was neutralized. This did not eliminate all problems but it eliminated the main problem.

Even so, Saddam Hussein and his sons were more like Hitler than any dictator since him and to think that if he were left in power that everything would have just glided along as normal is insane. Bush eliminated this threat and set everything in place to stabilize the region. Unfortunately, much of it was undone by Obama. Let us hope the next president can help to steer the Middle East back to a stable course.

Not all the plans of the Brotherhood of Light are successful for they have to depend of the free will of the human race to carry them out.

After the war in Iraq began I warned a number of times that the forces of darkness would do everything in their power to prevent a peaceful democracy from developing there. We now see that this has happened and we are at a point where Iraq could swing toward the dark or the light depending on what happens in the next U.S. election as well as the world economy.

“Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth.”

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Jim gives a quote from a nebulous Texas newspaper stating that George W Bush apologized for the war in Iraq. This is obviously a made up quote for the following reasons:

(1) No specific reference is cited

(2) None of the major media picked it. It would have been a big story and those who hated Bush would have gleefully repeated it if the quotes were verifiable.

(3) There are only a few fringe far left sites quoting this.

(4) The quote is refuted by Bush himself who says he stands by his decision to invade Iraq. These quotes (made after the false quote) are from CBS News and the New York Times who generally check the source of their quotes.

Mr. Bush also said he has no regrets about going to war.

“No, I think it was the right decision,” President Bush said. “My regret is that — a violent group of people have risen up again. This is ‘Al Qaeda plus.’ I put it in the book, they need to be defeated. And I hope we do. It’s – I hope that the strategy. CBS News interview LINK

Unlike His Brother, George W. Bush Stands by His Call to Invade Iraq

New York Times LINK

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 14

This entry is part 16 of 73 in the series 2015

June 14, 2015

Flaws and Greatness

Duke brought up some interesting questions and received some good comments from Ruth and Joshua. I’ll add a few things.

Duke:

Very educational, thanks JJ. My guess is that, while those of us who have a long ways to go can benefit from DK’s advice here, the people he is speaking most directly to are probably no more than a handful out of each generation. Perhaps to a certain extent the same handful over and over again.

JJ

Though he says that some of the things he writes will only be understood by initiates there are important truths in his writings for everyone willing to plow through them and take in what is available.

Many give up reading DK because it is difficult reading at first. There are two things you can do if you want to get hooked on the writings.

(1) Make a commitment to read 1000 pages.

(2) As you read along look up the meaning of the words you do not know and write them down.

After the 1000 pages (or less) you will be hooked.

Now make sure you read the books transmitted by DK. Alice A. Bailey wrote several books on her own that just do not have the same wisdom. White Magic is a good DK book to start with and all the books can be downloaded free from the web.

Duke

So in light of the injunction to “live a life which is an example to others”, does that mean that “budding initiates” with such things as, bankruptcy, divorce, a criminal record, or other such public failures in their present lifetime thus have limited potential until the next go-round?

JJ

All of us have flaws. The scriptures do not even say that Jesus was perfect for such are mistranslations. They merely said he fulfilled the job he came here to do and that is what each of us needs to do, despite being prone to making mistakes.

The biggest threat to not completing one’s life’s mission is self-condemnation and a feeling of unworthiness or inadequacy. When we make a mistake, instead of condemning ourselves, we must learn to take it in stride, chalk it up to experience and move ever onward toward the goal.

Duke:

How about a situation where an initiate undertakes something which is pretty much the opposite of exemplary, as with Joseph Smith taking multiple wives (whether those marriages were consummated or not)? And what of his apparently lying about it? I’ve been trying for years to wrap my head around Joseph Smith and this plurality of wives thing, and personally feel like DK may be speaking to future Joseph Smiths here.

JJ

There is a lot of mystery behind Joseph Smith, polygamy and other occurrences. To this day the Reorganized LDS (now Community of Christ) claims that Polygamy was invented by Brigham Young and Joseph did not practice it. It is also interesting that though many have claimed to be descended from Joseph’s extra wives that DNA testing has not been able to verify even one descended beyond his first wife. Even so, the evidence is pretty overwhelming that he did practice it.

The story given by several witnesses says that he was reluctant to take extra wives and he was met one day by an angel with a drawn sword who commanded him to practice polygamy or he would be slain and replaced.

Now by all accounts Joseph was honest under normal circumstances. But if we put ourselves in his shoes and consider that he felt that is was something he had to do or else, then the temptation to lie to cover up to save his life or the church would be great.

Whatever the case, outright lying, is wrong, plain and simple. Even when it seems justified it is a sign that the person has inadequately engineered his life so the truth could always be told.

Joseph and others did great works despite their flaws. Washington and Jefferson owned slaves, yet paved the way for the freedom of the human spirit that eliminated slavery.

It is interesting that many of the great souls in our history seemed to also have great flaws and did questionable acts that your friendly neighbor wouldn’t consider.

Why is this?

Part of the reason is this. An advanced soul gives himself a lot of latitude in thinking and acting and sees many out of the box alternatives that go over the head of others. He is also more passionate than most and therefore is confronted with many strong temptations to deviate from the path of harmlessness.

Advanced or not, negative tendencies must be controlled and the disciple must eventually direct his whole self to the greater good while living a life that is an example to his brothers and sisters who may look up to him for inspiration.

 

June 16, 2015

God’s Golden Rule

As I have taught many times the Beast represents unearned outside authority that replaces the voice of God that speaks to us within. In other words, it represents some Voice-Of-God-Wannabe that says to us. “Listen to me and obey because I know what God wants you to know and what you are supposed to do.”

The Beast is clever in that his representatives do not offend the masses by directly telling them, “I am God; therefore, listen to me and obey.”

Instead, this is the message they convey:

“I know what God wants you to know and do. Therefore, you must listen to me and obey or you will suffer devastating wrath.”

So, what gives this impersonator the nerve to think that he can tell us what to do as God’s true voice? There are a number of tricks he uses to convince those who are not guided by the true voice such as:

(1) I received a revelation from God (or some link with God) and this is what he wants you to know and do.

(2) I’ve studied the word of God in the scriptures and this is what he says you need to do and think.

(3) Because I am an authority in God’s Church or organization I represent the Voice of God. When I speak to you it is as binding as if God were here speaking to you.

One common theme among these impersonators is this: “If you don’t listen to me you’ll be sorry.”

And why would we be sorry?

The representative of the Beast insists that if you do not listen and obey you will offend God. The troubling thing for the one with the mark of the beast is that he fears God has all power and if displeased can deny him heaven, rewards and send him to hell on a whim – or even extinguish him into non existence. The scary thing is that these effects are said to last for all eternity. All eternity is at stake so the motivation to obey the Beast for a short life here is strong indeed.

A great advantage of escaping the Mark of the Beast is that the seeker who is free sees that this is the most horrific illusion that has ever entered into the mind of the human race. Once it is truly seen the disciple has pity on those with the mark, for because of fear their progression is as slow as a glacier. They are frozen with fear like the two guys in the Parable of Decision.

Keep in mind that there are thousands of representatives of the Beast. Because a person rejects some does not mean he is free of he mark. If he accepts just one out of those thousands as representing the voice of God then he has the mark.

To escape the mark requires great courage, as his Dweller on the Threshold ever dangles before his consciousness the fear of eternal punishment for stepping out of line.

One step that the seeker can take is to switch his faith from a wrathful God who is offended by small insignificant things to a God who is a loving parent wanting what is best for his children.

After all, that is the God of whom Jesus spoke.

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Matt 7:9-11

This scripture, if taken to heart by the seeker, will destroy the power of the Beast.

If a child of God asks for eternal life, would a God who knows how to give better gifts than your earthly parents give you eternal punishment or death?

Would this loving Father of Jesus condemn you to eternal hell, because you sincerely embraced a belief system containing errors?

Would your earthly mom and dad do this? Then why would God, who is much better than them?

A wise earthly father would not condemn his child but try and guide him out of his error.

Even so, will your heavenly parent do the same and more.

Does the child of physical parents depend on his brothers and sisters, neighbors, friends or local authorities to discover the will of his parents?

No.

Instead, he goes directly to the parent to receive instructions he needs.

Even so, all of us must shed the Mark of the Beast and go directly to God within and receive the instructions we need. If this agrees with some other outer worker then cooperation could be a good thing.

BUT…

If the voice of the outer worker is not in harmony then do not cooperate and do all that is possible to reveal the true light which was manifest within your own soul.

When quoting this scripture the concluding words following is often left out. Here they are:

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Matt 7:12

We often think this scripture just refers to us humans, but Jesus was talking about, not only of the relationship of mortal parents to children, but God to his children.

In other words, God treats us as he would like to be treated himself.

Do you think that if God made an honest mistake he would want to be attacked and sent to eternal hell?

Of course not.

In other words, the treatment we can expect from God will be based on the golden rule.

Would you send your child to hell for a few mistaken beliefs?

Neither would God. It is his golden rule.

June 20, 2015

The Symbolism of the Tabernacle

Ken asks another question and I must praise him for honing down his post to dealing with one scripture and item instead of hitting us with so much material that it would take a book to cover.

Ken:

Shalom All, it appears that I should try to have a little fun in addressing the “Law of Correspondences” concerning “The Holy Place.” What does The Holy Place “correspond” to? Doesn’t the writer of Hebrews state that The Holy Place (The Outer Tent/Tabernacle) corresponds to this Present Age or Time:

Heb 9:2 For there was a tabernacle prepared, the outer one, in which were the lampstand and the table and the sacred bread; this is called the holy place.

Heb 9:8-9

8 The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holiest place (The Holy of Holies) has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle (The Holy Place) is still standing,

9 which is a symbol (symbolic-corresponds to) for the present time (age)…

What do the rest of you say? Do you agree or disagree with the writer of Hebrews on this correspondence? Is The Holy Place a correspondence or symbolic of this Present Time/Age? Or is the writer of Hebrews wrong in this Law of Correspondence?

JJ

First it must be pointed out that there is a difference between the Law of Correspondences and symbolism. To teach with symbolism is to merely substitute one thing for another so word pictures can be presented to the reader’s mind in the hope that an idea may be understood more clearly or with greater meaning or feeling.

The fact that a writer teaches with symbols presents no proof that the teaching is true. A lot of poetry that is mere creative expression, but reveals no real inner truth, may use a lot of symbolism.

The Law of Correspondences may use some symbolism, but not all symbolism is harmonious with the Law of Correspondences.

To use the Law of Correspondences one must first take a thing he knows to be true and then correspond it to something related or similar to it. He then takes the thing that seems to correspond and looks at the unknown parts. Using hints from the known he can often intuitively surmise the truth about the unknown.

To understand this visualize a wave of water in the present time. We can look at or even photograph the wave and this gets us a clear picture of exactly what the attributes of the wave is. What we do not know is what the wave was like ten seconds ago or what it will be ten seconds in the future. Even though we cannot see what the wave was like in the past or the future we can use the Law of Correspondences and get a pretty good idea.

We can see what a wave of water is like, but what would a wave be like if it was made of oil, molten lava or even air? Even if we have not seen such things we could get a pretty clear picture by using the Law of Correspondences.

Niels Bohr produced the first credible model of he atom by using the Law of Correspondences . He looked at the larger macrocosm and saw that this solar system had a central sun and was orbited by planets with a much lower density. He figured then that atoms may have a dense central core with electrons orbiting around it.

We can look at known history and then project into the future corresponding the unknown with the known to obtain hints as to what is to come.

On the other hand, one can take an entirely false idea and teach it in symbols. Teaching in symbols does not turn that which is false into that which is true. If the idea was false to begin with then it will still be false in symbolic language, no matter how cleverly expressed.

Now let us get to Ken’s question. He quotes Hebrews where the author is talking about the Tabernacle of Moses and its symbolism in relation to the sacrifice of Christ. The outer part of he Tabernacle was called the Holy Place and the inner was the Holy of Holies which contained the Arc of the Covenant.

There has been much written about the symbolic meaning of the various components of he Tabernacle, but Ken wants to know if the outer part corresponds to the current age.

Before I answer let us look at an accurate translation from the Concordant version:

8 by this the holy spirit making it evident that the way of the holy places is not as yet manifest while the front tabernacle still has a standing:

9 which is a parable for the present period, according to which both approach presents and sacrifices are being offered, which can not make the one offering divine service perfect as to the conscience,

So the outer court was a symbol applicable for not our age but that time of Christ when animals were still being sacrificed.

The fact that there is an outer and inner parts of the path as we journey to the sacred feet of the Lord is indeed true and we can use this truth in connection to the Law of Correspondences to discover much useful symbolism.

There is not just one way to interpret the meaning of he Tabernacle but numerous ones that correspond to known truths could be useful.

As we journey home to God we do indeed pass through an outer court where we endure much blood, sacrifice and even have the fruits of our labors burned to ashes as happens to the red heifer. Finally we realize that we must complete the journey alone, just as the high priest must enter the Holy of Holies alone where dwells the Divine Presence and Arc of the Covenant where the true laws of God are written and can be revealed to the brave souls who complete the journey.

June 21, 2015

Health Tips

Since we have been discussing health I thought I would relate several things I have added to my health regimen that has been a benefit.

I started paying attention to preserving good health from my first year of college at about age 19. Until then, my main problem was that I kept having this feeling that I was about to fade away or pass out. Now I know that it was because my blood sugar was affected by all the sugar I consumed.

I chanced on a book in the library about diet and health and it strongly recommended that we not eat refined sugar and white or processed bread. I switched to honey for a sweetener and to whole grain bread and within two weeks I noticed a big difference. That feeling like I was about to pass out never came back and as a side effect a heart murmur I had just went away.

Since then I have been able to maintain good health by eating as many live foods as possible and use good pure water energized by the sun. I do eat meat but always try and select meat that has been sustainably and humanly raised.

There are five things I have added lately that have helped my health.

(1) Do small amounts of intense exercise several times a day. I have discovered that it is better to spread your exercise out in small increments rather than a lot at a time with large intervals between.

(2) Eat a large bulb of raw garlic every day. After you run it through a garlic press let it sit for 5-15 minutes and this triggers an enzyme reaction that boosts the healthy compounds in garlic, the best of which is Alicin which is created by crushing the garlic. Since I have been eating this I haven’t had a cold, flu or even any mild problem.

You don’t want to just eat it alone but sprinkle it on some food or eat it with cheese and crackers and this diffuses the powerful taste.

Google “garlic health benefits.”

(3) Fast 16 hours a day. I confine my eating to around an eight hour period. This helped me lose some weight and increased sense of well being.

(4) Reduced calorie eating two days a week. The theory is that this produces similar results to fasting without as much sacrifice. This helps with weight loss and helps the body to stay healthy.

(5) Get 20 or more minutes of sun daily wearing a swimsuit for maximum exposure. I got out of the habit of doing this but now getting back into it. The sun really helps your immune system and energizes you.

These are a few things I have added recently. Maybe they’ll help someone here.

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Removal of Karma?

Jim:

Do you believe Jesus had the Authority to forgive sin? If not, was he lying to the Prostitute when He told her that her sins were forgiven and to go out and sin no more?

JJ

The scripture says the woman was caught in adultery, not that she was a prostitute, and secondly he did not tell her that her sins were forgiven. He merely told her that he did not condemn her, which thing I would have said myself if I had been in that situation and I have no power to nullify another person’s karma.

Secondly, sin and karma are two entirely different things. One can have lots of karma but have no sin connected with it.

The word “sin’ in the New Testament comes from HAMARTIA which is derived from HAMARTANO which means “to miss the mark,” or merely to make a mistake or be in error. When Jesus told someone that their sins were forgiven he was merely telling them that the error that created their disease was corrected. That error was the mindset that created guilt, which guilt often programs the mind to create disease to punish us. When the words of Jesus relieved the person of the error of guilt he told then that their sins were forgiven. In other words, the error creating the guilt which created the disease was removed. This had nothing to do with removing karma.

Notice that Jesus said, “your sins are forgiven.” He did not say, “I forgive your sins.” He was merely acknowledging that their errors were rectified within their own souls and being.

The Masters are brethren like ourselves and it is not their job to enable us, save us or cause us to be dependent on them. They are there to guide us and assist us after we have done all we can, and even then their job is to shed light while the disciples take the actual steps. If they take away the karma of one and not another then the justice and fairness of God is nullified.

The Masters are molecularly linked up to the spiritual flow that links them all together with the greater lives in the universe and seek to bring that link to humanity, but even this does not nullify karma.

A cause can only be nullified by letting the effects play out. The best we can do is manage the effects with additional causes that neutralize them. An airplane can fly because it creates additional causes that neutralizes gravity. We do not make gravity go away.

Jesus was the mediator in the fact that he entered the higher realms and paved the way. We enter by accessing the mediator, or Christ within, who takes away all guilt.

As far as karma goes we figure out how to handle that between lifetimes and plan each new life around the creation of new causes that will balance off the slate for us as well as learn new lessons.

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Ken:

It is interesting that you teach that The Holy Place is a “parable” for the time of animal sacrifice.

JJ

I am not saying that. I merely quoted the writer of Hebrews who said it “is a parable for the present period, according to which both approach presents and sacrifices are being offered.”

Ken:

So are you indicating or teaching that before the Messiah could enter the Most Holy Place (Heaven Itself-Heb 9:24), that He had to first perform animal sacrifice?

JJ

Haven’t thought about it to indicate it or not, but now you bring it up it is obvious that Jesus incarnated during the period of animal sacrifice so he taught in the midst of the symbolic outer court of animal sacrifice. He also sacrificed his animal nature while he was here.

Ken:

  1. In Exo 40:34 we are told that a “cloud” covered the Tent of Meeting (The Holy Place), and the GLORY of Yahweh filled it. If your teaching is correct about The Holy Place (a “parable” for the time of animal sacrifice), how can the Glory of Yahweh fill the time of animal sacrifice?

JJ

These scriptures shouldn’t need additional elaboration. The outer court in the age of Jesus was filled with the Glory of God.

Matt 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with

Acts one accord in one place.

Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Ken:

But on the other hand, IF The Holy Place is a “parable” for This Present Age, cannot we “see” how the Glory of Elohim/Yahweh can fill it (Num 14:21, Hab 2:14-what are the “waters” that cover the sea-isn’t it MAN)?

JJ

This age was the future age 2000 years ago and it says it was referring to the present at that time, not the future.

Even so, the glory of God will manifest in this Aquarian Age even more than it did in the Age of Pisces as indicated by Jim.

Ken:

  1. Can you explain why NO MAN could be in the Tent of Meeting (The Holy Place) WHEN the High Priest went INTO the Holy of Holies to make Atonement (Lev 16:17)?

JJ

According to the account the Israelites were terrified of the glory of God and even demanded that Moses wear a covering because of its intensity around him. If God were to manifest in glory when the High Priest entered the Holy of Holies then they feared they would be consumed if they were in the outer court. The best bet was to stay a safe distance away.

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Karma and Illusion

Jim:

Jesus was quoted to have said,….”I and the Father are one. ” Was he lying? He didn’t say he was a piece, or cell, or Neuron of the Father. In other words, the drop is not the Ocean, nor the Ocean complete with out the drop. So, The Master Jesus took the karma from every Disciple he initiated by proving to them that not only He, but none of them had ever left The Father, because He, and they, ( as soon as they were initiated ) resumed Awareness that they had never left The Father, or drops never left the Ocean, because they are ONE ! Only their Awareness of leaving their Father had changed, as they were hypnotized by Kal, Brahma, Satan, all Creations of The Father. So, Living Masters who convince seekers they never left their Father, and are still ONE with Him, and their karma is His,……..than obviously, ……….karma is Maya, or illusion, that only exists in our minds, which are Agents of Universal Mind, (Kal) , all Creations,…..but still ALWAYS ONE with The Creator Father.

I imagine the above is a difficult mouthful to swallow, but Metaphysically, all Paths eventually lead to this conclusion of The ONE, no matter how long it takes to regain Awareness that all matter is impermanent, there fore, no karma ever existed!

JJ

I’m familiar with this argument and it doesn’t make any sense. First you say that we need a master to take away our karma and next you say that there is no karma. If there is no real karma then we have absolutely no need for some master to take away that which does not exist. He could not take away what is not there and if there is nothing there then there is nothing to be concerned with. It would make no difference whether we follow the path of selfishness or love. Even illusion is something and has cause and effect and produces experience, whether it be in illusion or reality.

Yes, the higher part of ourselves, the monad, is one with God, but it has projected itself down to these lower worlds to have experience. Even if you were to tap into this higher part of yourself or commune with a master, or master wanna-be, in meditation this does not discount karma. You Jim, no matter what you have experienced in meditation, have returned to your body and have to deal with causes and effects with your wife. If you slap her around and the resulting karma is that she decides to leave you then no master in the universe will undue the negative karma and force her stay with you.’

You Jim, as you exist in this physical plane are subject to the karma of the physical plane and not even Jesus can alter it.

If you go swimming and kill someone while in the water you cannot say when out of the water that the event did not happen and will have no effect just because you are no longer wet or in the water. Even so, all the meditation of higher worlds will not change the effect you had on your wife while in this world.

Residual karma even follows us from creation to creation. Many of our present circumstances on this world are the result of karma from the previous earth and solar system that occupied this part of divine space.

We did not come here just to escape. That would be a silly purpose. We came here to experience, to learn and to grow in capacity to love and manifest intelligence and joy.

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Conall

My comments were not so much that one should fear making a mistake, but rather be mindful of this fact, in all facets. Jim mentioned that is bush was an initiate to some degree,why was he causing so much harm. I’m merely stating that no matter how far one travels, they are capable of harm in their sphere.

JJ

Yes Conall, just because one is an initiate of some degree does not mean all they do is correct. Hitler was a second degree initiate and was a vegetarian to help him control his emotional body, but took a wildly wrong turn to the left and was caught up in destructive illusion which is dispelled by the third initiation which he did not reach. It is most likely that he is now stuck in the left hand path.

Bush, another initiate of the second degree also made mistakes but follows his soul to the best of his ability and is continuing to this day toward the path toward liberation.

 

June 22, 2015

Looking at the Whole

Jim:

You are supposedly an Intuitive, JJ. Walk through the American Grave site in Normandy, as I have, and sense what revelations you receive there. Or, spend an afternoon walking through Arlington Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia and stand over the graves of JFK and his brother, Robert, and see if you feel any of the kind of Patriotism you think you possess. Maybe you have walked Arlington? If so, how did it make you feel? I have toured many Grave Yards. I especially like touring the American Civil War grave Yards, such as the one in Charlottesville, VA. and Gettysburg, PA. I am certain, there are still spirits of dead Soldiers hovering over their buried bodies who still don’t know their dead!

JJ

In any war or conflict there are mistakes made on both sides and tales of sorrow on both sides. You can’t judge whether or not the whole was good or bad by looking at isolated individual ingredients, but have to look at that whole.

As a whole, it was indeed worth the sacrifice to defeat Hitler and prevent the rule of the planned 1000 year Reich.

As a whole, it was worth the sacrifice of the Civil War to secure the Union and abolish slavery.

As a whole, the Revolutionary War was worth it to establish an oasis of freedom in the world which influenced many other nations in a positive way.

Yes, I know you can list dozens of things the USA has done wrong while blissfully ignoring the good and benefits you now receive from the sacrifices of previous wars.

June 24, 2015

Conall:

Not that I agree with the path of the masters, but it recommends following a teacher for an up words of two years, studying him and verifying if he fits the bill. While I disagree with the assertion you need a master, I don’t think it advocates blind obedience.

JJ

In the chapter, “Why Surrender to a Master?” he says: “complete surrender to the Master is the only avenue or path to complete liberation” and compares that to a patient who must trust a surgeon who is about to operate on him. The only difference is that he does not supply criteria as to how to test a teacher as to whether he is a master or charlatan so total trust could take one down a path of destruction. We only trust a surgeon that supplies us with evidence that e knows what he is doing and even then I would rely on my judgment as to whether I would use him.

The problem is that a real master doesn’t want total trust in him, but wants the student to only trust his words if he receives confirmation through the soul.

Even the Bible says to “Prove all things” I Thess 5:21

And the Master DK says this of his own teachings:

“If the statements meet with eventual corroboration, or are deemed true under the test of the Law of Correspondences, then that is well and good. But should this not be so, let not the student accept what is said.”

There are some good things in the book but the advocation of placing your trust and salvation in an outside source rather than inside is a big turn off for me for I have taught here many times that this is how the mark of the beast is received.

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This guy makes absolutely no sense and contradicts himself. He says that “I am a drop of consciousness in the ocean of total consciousness, but I have never left the ocean.”

Then in the next sentence he contradicts himself and says he did leave after all. He says:

And what did I leave? I left only the awareness of being the ocean.”

So what was that “I” whose awareness left God or the ocean? Something left the awareness and has to return to it yet he maintains that no part of him left.

Does not compute. He says “ I have never left the ocean.“ If this is completely true then what is in the body doing the writing here on the earth? Who is it that sees himself as away from the ocean?

The truth is that our point of origin is in oneness with God, but this intelligence has reflected itself into the lower worlds and the awareness that we have here is separated by veils of illusion.

Is it just a huge screwup by God that we are here or seem to be here enduring limitations or is it part of a plan fitting in with the will and true awareness of God?

It makes no sense that God would make the mistake of tricking himself into believing that he is many dumb unaware parts whose only purpose is to wake up.

God can crate any type of separation he wants, but this does not mean he is not God or that he does not have a plan.

And as I said concerning Karma.

You Jim, no matter what you have experienced in meditation, have returned to your body and have to deal with causes and effects with your wife. If you slap her around and the resulting karma is that she decides to leave you then no master in the universe will undue the negative karma and force her stay with you.’

How could this Karma be removed when no power in heaven and earth will change her mind? How can some master negate this karmic effect against you?

It cannot.

 

June 26, 2015

The Spiritual Flow

There are a number of teachings out there telling us that we need some type of living master to obtain the highest salvation. And what is that highest salvation? Generally it goes something like this.

We have been trapped in the cycle of rebirth for many ages and we have just incarnated over and over making little progress. What we need to do is escape the wheel of rebirth and to do this we need to latch on to a living master who has this special power to escape himself and take us with him. If we are lucky enough to find such a person and lucky enough to be liked and chosen by him then he will take us under his wing and make sure we escape to the higher blissful regions, never to be reborn again.

So, is there any truth to either of these ideas? Let us take a look.

First, do we need a living master so we can return to God? If not, what do we need?

Consider this. There is a spiritual flow that descends from the highest of realms to the lowest. In this dense physical plane form is created from spirit which is concretized and slowed down to the extent that the originating spirit essence is difficult to perceive. Even though the spiritual flow is difficult to tap into it is not impossible. We spend many lifetimes learning by trial and error until we do learn to direct our focus toward the spiritual energy. When we do finally learn to do this then our progress toward pure spirit is increased as we finally have a sense of direction that leads us to our source.

So, do we accomplish this all on our own with no help?

Not by any means. We are all interdependent and need each other. Some progress faster than others and teach others what they have learned. Souls also progress unevenly and even lopsidedly. John may be advanced in one area and backward in another. Bob may be must the opposite so it turns out that they can help each other move forward in their areas of weakness.

The real key to advancement is to tap into the highest possible spiritual flow. When one does this he can assist others. But keep in mind, he assists, but does not do the work for them required to bring them in alignment with Spirit.

So what does thus teacher do?

First, he makes the students aware that there is such a thing as higher spiritual contact and that it is available to all. There is individual contact and group contact. The goal is not to progress alone but take others with us. Eventually numerous souls will merge and become one in aligning with the spiritual flow.

All of us are brothers and made in the mage of God. One is not any more special than another. Some have merely traveled further along the path of return and can help others on that same path by giving instructions to fellow travelers.

So, what about the idea of skipping over hundreds or maybe thousands of lives with the help of a master, never to be born again?

This question is easy to answer when we realize why we incarnate in this world and others. The reason is to learn, grow, gain experience and obtain the joy of accomplishment. In other words, we are in school in this realm.

Now, let us say you were half way through college, learning to become an engineer. Then you meet this unusual guy who claims to have some type of magical power and he tells you that if you listen to him and do as he says that you will not have to attend another day of school. You don’t have to be an engineer, a lawyer, doctor or anything. Just come live in his compound and you will live in bliss forever without a care in the world from now on.

Does this make sense to you?

Of course not. If you quit now you will not learn to become an engineer as you desired. If you follow the guru you’ll find that you’ll just have to retrace your steps and go back to school to achieve worth of real value.

Yes, we are in school and, after many lives of service and being served by others we will graduate. Then, after a period of labor and rest we will desire to learn even greater things and we will move on to more advanced schools and thus we move ever onward to eternal lives on eternal worlds without end.

 

June 29, 2015

Ken writes:

Shalom Blayne, I sorry you feel I am not part of the Elect, and that you are, but time will tell. You also try to portray Elohim as some vicious deity, or at least how you think I project Him. That is not the case at all. He is like any parent, and will correct and discipline His Children, and those who are uncorrectable, He will eventually remove from existence. Are you the type that would allow a serial murderer, who would not change, LIFE? Just where would you draw the line in destroying the wicked?

JJ

And what percentage of the children of God will God hate so much that he will burn with fire and extinguish from existence???

If you are a typical fundamentalist the figure will be over 90% in your mind and surely it will be more than half by your standards.

What kind of idiot, hateful, incompetent father would raise his children so more than half are worthy of being punished with a painful eternal death by his own hand?

Considering that question alone should reveal to any reader that there is tremendous illusion in your thinking.

Here is a part of a message I wrote to the Mormons decades ago who were caught up in a similar illusion.

ASK FOR A FISH

We are supposed to believe that God is our Father and we are his sons and daughters and that God loves us even more than we love our children. If this is the case then we should examine the good we try and do for our children and then expect that God, being our Father, would do an even greater good for us as his sons and daughters.

If a child fails the first grade do we condemn him to stay in the first grade for all eternity, or even a lifetime? No. We have pity on the child and try and help him as much or more than ever and when he finally attains the second grade we rejoice at his progress.

If an earthly parent is this good in his thoughts then what about God? The scriptures answer: “Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your father which is in heaven give good gifts to them that ask him?” Matt 7:9-11. We are commanded to “ask and it shall be given you.” Matt 7:7

This scripture doesn’t apply to this life only, but for all eternity. God did not put a limit on it. Therefore if a man in the telestial kingdom asks for the means to go higher will not God provide a way? If you were with God and that person in the telestial kingdom asking was your son would not you rejoice in providing him with the opportunity to join you? If we are that good in seeking the welfare and progression of our children would God not go one better? Will God give a stone of eternal damnation to a son in the telestial kingdom who seeks to go up? Are we capable of greater good than God?

But, says one, God has his hands tied and he is subject to laws. But we ask: What laws are you talking about? Why bind God by laws that do not exist? Where is this law written that we hear rumored about the church and who established it? Would it not have been God? But if it was God why would a loving Father establish such a damning and unjust law?

Alas! We know there is no such law, but such a law is thought up by those who feel secure in their own salvation and exaltation and want to limit opportunity to their own sphere. They are like established doctors and lawyers who are secure in their income and want to establish rules for newcomers so difficult that few will make the grade thus eliminating competition.

We forget that on God’s endless worlds there is room for all and as soon as a man “asks” the opportunity will be given for God “will have all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.” I Tim 2:4 “Even so it is NOT THE WILL of your Father which is in heaven that ONE of these little ones should perish.” Matt 18:14 People who doubt the scripture will say that God’s will is not always done, but they forget that “with God NOTHING shall be impossible.” Luke 1:37. They also forget the prayer of Jesus: “Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” Matt 6:10

I contend that if it is the will of God that none shall perish, or that all shall eventually be exalted, then nothing can hold back that Will from being accomplished. If God “allotteth unto men according to their wills” (Alma 29:4) then he shall surely be able to fulfill his own will. If God cannot fulfill his own will then you and I have great reason to tremble and fear for he may not have power to save us even if we repent! Behold, the Spirit testifies that God can save and exalt whoever will use his free agency to conform to the appropriate laws, regardless of whether that decision was yesterday, today, or a million years from now.

 

July 3, 2015

More on Health

My wife and I took off for a couple days of R&R after the gathering and are getting settled back into the regular routine.

It is great to see old friends at the gatherings and make new ones. Because I consider the group to be my friends I am concerned when I see some health problems develop. Now, some of the group are doing great health wise, but others seem to be having more than their share of problems. This is one reason that we have some type of healing session at each gathering. It is interesting that the healing energy that circulates has something for everyone as it heals the soul and body. Everyone feels uplifted to a degree, some more than others.

The trouble with health problems is that it is often impossible to put a finger on exactly what one must do to become well as there are so many ingredients to good health such as karma, attitude, diet, water intake, exercise, exposure to sunlight, positive and negative suggestions implanted in the mind etc.

Throughout my life, when I have encountered someone with health problems, I attempt to observe their diet and lifestyle as much as possible to see if there is correlation, and generally there is, and some causes are quite obvious.

My friend Wayne, who was one of the most intelligent people I have known, made some typical mistakes that plagues many of us. He did a number of things that violated the rules that would insure good health, things which should be basic protocol for those who want to maintain power to serve, live long and prosper.

(1) He drank diet sodas.

Regular sodas with cane sugar or fructose should be avoided, but the artificial sweeteners are much worse. Artie and I warned him about these many times, but he was just addicted and just couldn’t give them up for more than a day or two.

Anyone who drinks more than two sodas a week, diet or otherwise, can expect to have some negative impact on his health. I personally avoid diet sodas like the plague. Many drink them to lose weight but research shows that one gains more weight drinking them than regular sodas with sugar.

In addition one should avoid aluminum and plastic containers.

(2) He took in lots of processed sugar.

He loved sweet things and instead of using sweeteners like raw honey or maple syrup he ate a lot of products containing fructose or regular sugar.

(3) He ate a lot of processed foods.

His worst offense was eating lots of doughnuts and rolls made of white, bleached, processed flour. This creates all kinds of health problems over time. When visiting me he would often bring a half dozen sweet rolls or doughnuts, thinking he was doing me a favor. As many times as I explained to him that these were terrible for your health, he just didn’t seem to get the message.

(4) He drank tap water.

The worst thing about tap water is that it contains chlorine. One should at least expose it to the air for 20 minutes so most of it can disperse unto the atmosphere. You never know what all poisons are in tap water so it is best to either filter it or buy filtered or spring water. Avoid water in plastic drinking containers except for occasional use.

The best filter for the money is called Zero Water and you can buy these at Walmart, Target and other locations.

This takes everything out of the water, similar to reverse osmosis, so I add some extra plant derived minerals. Here’s a link to the minerals I use.

LINK

A little unrefined salt also enlivens the water.

(5) He ate refined table salt.

Many do not realize the health problems created by regular table salt. Unrefined salt in the right doses is very healthful but regular refined salt is very tough on the body.

Regular table salt is refined at high temperatures taking out all the healthful minerals giving it a very white color. In the refining process chemicals are added that are designed to make it more free-flowing. Ferrocyanide, talc, and silica aluminate are commonly included.

And don’t think you are getting good salt when the label says “sea salt.” This is often refined as much as regular table salt. If the salt looks angelic white then avoid it. Unrefined salt has a little color to it.

Here is a link to my favorite salt.

Note that there are other good salts recommended if you scroll down.

(5) Lack of exercise.

He got very little exercise that would increase the heart rate and oxygen intake.

You do not need to exercise a lot to maintain good health. A little frequent exercise is a lot better than a lot in longer intervals. You should do something to get your heart rate up every two to three hours and not sit for over 20 minutes at a time. If you work a lot at the computer, as I do, then get up and walk around on a regular basis.

Anyway, these are some of the basics overlooked by many seekers. Much pain and suffering could be alleviated by these suggestions alone.

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Ruth:

Although I don’t drink soft drinks, I do have some chocolate every day, and a wine at night, and some days are better than others, because I do love salt and junk food, but I do use the pink salt over the white salt.

JJ

You’ll get a lot of regular refined salt in any junk or processed food. I eat very few foods with salt added.

Wine, chocolate, sodas in the right doses will generally not do you harm. Eating a lot of chocolate with sugar added could be a problem. Overall there are a lot of health benefits to chocolate. I take most of my chocolate by means of hot chocolate and make it as follows. In a good sized mug I place a teaspoon of organic chocolate powder, a third of a teaspoon of instant coffee and then add some real vanilla extract for flavor. To this I add one third water and two thirds almond milk. Then I add around a heaping teaspoon of raw honey (or real maple syrup – preferably grade B) and top it off with a little real cream.

This makes a delicious, healthy and satisfying drink.

Ruth:

Do you think Wayne wanted to die?

JJ

Yes, a part of Wayne wanted to die. Whenever Curtis spoke of gaining immortality Wayne always groaned and commented that life was not enjoyable enough to live beyond the normal time.

Give us a reminder the day before your operation and I’m sure many here will be glad to pray for you or send you good vibes.

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lwk

Do you still have a page on your website where you discuss in detail your belief that John F. Kennedy was the reincarnation of H.P. Blavatsky?

JJ

The handwriting link between JFK and HPB is not on my current site but can be found by linking to the old sight by means of the WayBack search. Here is the link:

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Conall writes:

I don’t drink soda either, but the two studies that I see referenced for rise in obesity, and cancer, with soda consumption, are pretty shoddy. Do you have another study you look to other then the one done on rats and the observational one on weight?

JJ

I go by what my body tells me above all else and the first time I tasted artificial sweeteners my body screamed to me to avoid them. I might drink a small amount of something with it in once or twice a year and that is too much.

My body is much more tolerant of regular sodas, but the more I avoid them the better, I may drink one every month or so when there is nothing else available.

Here is a good site tellings of the dangers of too much soda:

http://authoritynutrition.com/13-ways-sugary-soda-is-bad-for-you/

Here is some good information on diet sodas:

LINK

I wish they would do a study on the effects of aluminum from the cans used for sodas and beer as well as the plastics for the sodas.

 

July 4, 2015

Dan:

Stevia is not as bad but I still find the taste objectionable to the point I won’t use it. I also only use honey or maple syrup (as raw/unrefined as I can afford them) these days.

JJ

I feel the same way about Stevia though my wife and many others like it because of the low calories. On a scale of 1-10 synthetic sweeteners are 1, Stevia is 6, grade B maple syrup is 9 and raw honey is a 10. I find you can buy raw honey and grade B maple syrup cheaper online than in a heath food store. I use Amazon or Vitacost. If you are on their mailing list Vitacost offers an additional 10% discount about once a month.

I agree with you that detecting artificial sweetener is like detecting the taste of gasoline. As soon as I take a taste of something with it in I can taste it immediately. Some health food products are even adding it. I strongly advise all who read this to avoid

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