Seeing Eye to Eye
A reader made a comment that deserves some attention. He surmised that third degree initiates and higher are pretty much in agreement. So, is this a true statement and if so what is the principle involved?
The answer is that from the perspective of normal human consciousness this is true, but from a higher perspective it is not. Let me explain.
The principle is this. People agree consistently on that which they understand. If a subject or idea is below the level of understanding of those seeking union then there is likely to be disagreement.
It is interesting to note, however, that two can agree on a falsehood. In this case the union of thought comes not from understanding but from either wrong mutual perception or the acceptance of an outside authority who is in illusion. If the authority changes his mind the followers will normally be united in changing their minds also.
In the days of Galileo, the church members as a whole were united in the idea that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun circled around it. They “knew” this for two reasons. First, they could see the sun moving around the earth each day and secondly the Vatican Scientists stated that this was both scientific and spiritual fact.
Their authorities were wrong as well as their perceptions so they were united in illusion. The goal, however, is not to be united in illusion, but in truth. This is only achieved consistently through a mutual understanding or shared vision of the real.
As people advance in their spiritual evolution, they become united in a larger number of shared truths.
Average people can now understand that the earth circles the sun, that 2+2=4, that human slavery is undesirable, that basic freedom of speech is good, getting an education is a good thing and numerous other items.
As we move up the scale of thought there is less agreement among the masses, but agreement is still to be found among the thinkers.
The first initiation pertains to the physical plane and physical desires. These initiates will tend to agree on diet, exercise and sex.
The second initiation is centered on mastery of the emotional nature so these individuals will extend their agreement to values centered on the feeling nature. They will agree on the importance of taking personal responsibility, the ingredients of success, love and relationships to name a few.
They will agree on physical and emotional values yet still have disagreements on the plane of the mind and have differing philosophies.
The third-degree initiate masters illusion on the plane of the mind so two such initiates, even with widely different backgrounds and belief systems, can sit down and reason together and see the logic in each other’s thought. If one is able to bring forth facts, reason and logic that differs with the others’ beliefs then he will consider the new information and will not reactively reject it.
So do the higher initiates agree on everything?
No.
Why not?
Because no matter how high you get, there are many unknowns to be discovered. Even though they have solved illusion on the plane of the mind, there are still many things unknown to them and with such unknowns they can only theorize and guess about all the truth involved.
Not knowing an unknown is not illusion if you know you do not know. If you do not know how many beans are in a jar you know you do not know and there is no illusion. If you think you have some special gift to guess the correct number of beans, then that is illusion. The many are in illusion because they accept certain things as fact that are not facts and they do not know that they do not know.
In the story of the archangel Lucifer falling from heaven, he did not sink into illusion as we understand it but was part of a group seeking solutions to the advancement of humanity, a project with many unknowns to the group. He therefore thought that he could devise a plan as good as his elder brothers. He liked his ideas better than theirs and went with them and drew many after him. Since there could only be one master plan for the whole of the human race a plan was accepted and he was overruled. He has been seeking to prove he was right ever since.
As entities progress, they will agree on lessons learned and truths understood, but their disagreements will become more complex as they strive to achieve their next level of understanding and expand their own ring-pass-not.
King for a Life
Reader Question: Can you explain why someone is born rich or born a King, Queen or Emperor? Not everyone can be born a king out of the billions of lives that inhabited the earth. What makes that person so special? Is there karma behind this?
JJ: You are right in that it is mathematically impossible for all of us to take a turn as a king, a famous movie star or President of the United States. What then is the criterion that allows one to assume a position of power where he can influence millions?
The principle is this. If a person has karma that pertains to millions that were harmed then he will eventually be born in a situation where he can undue that damage by performing a good service for millions. This is true if he seeks redemption and has not taken the dark path.
Let us say that a tyrant who brought suffering to millions has seen the error of his ways and after a series of redemptive lives he finally has an opportunity to pay for much of the damage he did. Because he damaged millions of people he cannot pay off this debt with average lives. He must be in a situation where he can benefit a similar number of people that he previously hurt.
Just as not everyone becomes a king, even so, not everyone was a Hitler. Even so, all of us have lived like kings in some lives and in others made grievous mistakes. Fortunately, most of us haven’t done enough damage that requires us to positively influence millions of lives to pay off our karma.
Unfortunately, when the big opportunity comes for the seeker to pay off his karma through a position of power he will sometimes revert to his old patterns and create worse karma for himself. The difficulty in paying off great karma is therefore very hazardous and thus the seeker should always do everything in his power to tread the path of harmlessness.
So, was everyone who is now in a position of power paying off a huge dose of karma from being a bad dude in the past?
Not necessarily. Not all positions of power are reserved for working out karma. Sometimes disciples who owe little karma seek and obtain positions of power merely so they can have greater power to serve. Sometimes the need is great and hierarchy supports a karma-free disciple obtaining power so divine purpose can be more easily worked out.
In almost every case and situation general laws and principles apply, but not in the black and white mode with no judgment involved. There are always exceptions to every rule of thumb.
Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. Isa 52:8
Dec 14, 2010
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