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Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 8

February 20, 2025 Joseph Dewey

Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 8
Past Life Regression

JJ: Everybody ready? If you’re ready we’ll close our eyes. If you’re writing, put everything down on the floor so we can be perfectly still. Put your hands on your lap. First of all, you need to relax completely. Completely relax your body. Visualize a ray of light coming down from the sky and it’s alighting on your toes. Feel the toes of your right foot tingling with this light. It’s a very pleasant light. It’s tingling up your toes, your foot and now up your right leg, clear up to your knee and the rest of your leg until your entire right leg is completely relaxed. Now the beam of light is shining on your left foot and moving up your leg in the same way.

I’m going to count to three and your other leg will be completely relaxed. One, two, three. Both legs are completely relaxed as though they’re floating on nice warm water or air. Now your right arm, beginning at your fingers. The beam of hand is shining on your hand and up to your elbow and up the rest of your arm until your whole right arm is completely relaxed. The left arm now. The beam of light striking your fingers of your left hand, moving itself up the arm and completely relaxing it.

Both arms and both legs are now completely relaxed. Visualize the beam of light on your forehead and it’s moving down the rest of your body. All the muscles in your face are completely relaxing. Your chest, your neck, all the muscles are relaxing. Your tummy, your torso, all your body is completely relaxed. Both of your legs, your arms, your neck all the muscles are completely relaxed. You feel like you’re floating on a lake. Your head is above the water. The temperature is perfect. It feels like you could stay there all day. It feels really nice and comfortable.

You’re so comfortable that when you look down you see you’re actually floating on the air. You’re floating up like you’re weightless. It feels really, really good and very peaceful, so peaceful that you don’t have a care in the world and you’re just here relaxing. In this state of relaxation, you can see anything that you want. You can look into your past or into your future and see anything that is there to be seen. Now you see a cloud in the sky and you think, “Ahh, I’ll visit this cloud.” As you get up your body is weightless and you can will it to float. So, you will your body to float up to this cloud then you go through this cloud.

Somehow you know that on the other side of this cloud is your past. We’re going to count to ten and the cloud will dissipate. Right now in front of you, you see nothing but this cloud but the clouds are going to disperse. When they disperse you’re going to be back in the past, in the past life you will see as you saw then, you will feel as you felt then and you will know as you knew then. I’m going to count to ten and the clouds will disperse. One, two, three, they’re beginning to disperse and some details are beginning to emerge. Four, five, six, they’re beginning to disperse more. You’re beginning to see villages, countrysides, people. Seven, eight, nine, ten.

Now you see a view before you. You see a stairway of ten steps made of clouds. It’s going to take you into your past. We’re going to go down these ten steps. Step onto the first step, the second step. It’s kind of fun because they’re so squishy and light and you’re so light. The third step, fourth, fifth, sixth and your past life is coming into your view. Seven, eight, nine, ten. You are now back in your past. You know who you are. You know your name. You know someone who is a very good friend. You see him/her. Now reflect on this life. Think back to the beginning of this life and think back to the end and think of where you are now. You are going to a point in this life. You’ll actually be right there in your consciousness. You’ll be in your consciousness at this point in this life as if you’re really there. You won’t have to remember because everything will just be there. You will see as you saw then, hear as you heard then, feel as you felt then.

What are you feeling right now? Who are you? What is your name? Say that inside yourself. “My name is . . .” You know what your name is. Your name is coming to you. “My name is . . .” I’m going to ask you some questions about this life, and as I ask them you’ll have the answers come to you. You don’t have to think about how they come, they’ll just come. The first question is, “Who are you?” The second question is, “What time period does it seem like you’re in?” This time period is coming to you. Next question, “Which person in this life affected me more than anyone else? Someone I loved? Someone I hated?” Ask that question and reflect on it for a minute.

The next question is, “What did I learn in this life? What was the purpose of this life? Was it to learn love? Courage? A skill?” Speaking of skills, what was your profession? Were you a physician? A teacher? A shoemaker? What did you do and what did you take from this life into your current life? Think on this and the answer will come to you.

Now close your eyes again, within and without. You feel yourself being drawn up into this cloud again and you see before you another stairway of ten steps. We’re going to go down ten more steps and you’re going to go to another life, farther back in the past. By the time we hit the tenth step you will be back in another past life. As you’re stepping on the first step you feel yourself going backward in time. Second step, third. You look to the bottom of the steps and you see images beginning to emerge. Fourth step, fifth. You’re beginning to feel sensations from this past life. Sixth step, seventh, eighth, things are coming clearer. You’re beginning to realize who you are in this life. Nine, ten. You’re back in another past life. You’re there in consciousness. You see who you are. You know who you are. You can feel who you are. You know your name. I’m going to count to three and if your name has not yet come to you, it will come to you on the count of three. One, two, three. You know who you are. You know who is your best friend. Think on this.

Now you also know someone with whom you had a difficult time dealing with or working with. You know what you did for a living. Think on this. The time period is coming to you and you know your purpose in this life. I’m going to count to three and the purpose will come to you very clearly. One, two, closer, three. Your purpose of this life is coming to you. You know what your purpose was and you can see how this life affects your current life. You can see the connection.

Now I want you to take a minute and concentrate on this life. You can look at the end or any part of this life that you want to. You have the power to do that. You have power to go back to when you were a little child. You can go back there in your consciousness as though you’re really there. You can move ahead to the end of this life or the beginning. Take a minute of silence and go through this lifetime and visualize it. Some of you will be right there and can visualize it. Others may see it from a distance. Others will get impressions.

A period of silence passes.

You’re now back in the present. How many saw things pretty clearly back there? Raise your hands. How many received a name?

Audience: “Elizabeth.”

JJ: What time frame?

Audience: “1800s.”

JJ: Did you get details?

Audience: “I just saw myself in those big dresses and bonnets and I was baking bread.”

Another audience member: “Angelica was one of the names. The other was Lucille.”

JJ: Did you get any feelings about being there?

Audience member: “It was real dark, almost like a monastery type of place. In the other one I was a song and dance girl. (Laughter)”

JJ: Anyone else get impressions?

Audience member: “Yea, I was in the pyramids. I was down inside. People were working.”

JJ: Were you a priest?

Audience member: “Yea, I was wearing a robe and had a belt on and was just watching people work.”

JJ: How many details did you get? Was it an impression or did it seem like you were really there?

Audience member: “It was like an impression, like people were putting oil on the alter and there was writing on the wall but I couldn’t really see it though.”

JJ speaking to another member: What did you see?

Member: “I was a soldier. I was a man and this was a small town and I was looking at my big shoes and this was just like the 18th century.”

JJ: Did you see two lives or one?

Member: “Two. In the first I was a girl, about 15, with very white hair and I was staying in a cemetery close to the church.”

A different member: “I saw maybe the Holy Land or something there. All I knew was that I saw a noose and that I may have been hung. I went back to another life and I saw a fishing village and I wanted to get out of there and get to a big city.”

Another member: “I was a man. I was an artist. I worked with blueprints.”

JJ: How far back was it? Not too far?

Audience member: “I didn’t get a date. I saw lots of blueprints and lots of schematics. I was a long, long time ago. I saw a woman and I was a member of a committee.”

JJ: How clear was it?

Audience member: “Very clear.”

Another audience member: “I was some place in Egypt. I don’t know exactly where. I was in a building but it wasn’t a pyramid. It was something else. My name was Nikita and I was what was called Light Streamers. I helped direct lights for healing of people. Then I had another life in China and it was not a good life. My life lesson was one of obedience.”

JJ: How clearly did you see it?

Audience member: “Very clear. I mean it was vivid.”

JJ: What was your name?

Audience member: “It wasn’t very clear but I did get a name of Lucy or something like Lucy. It was the 1800s.”

Another audience member: “In the first one I saw a washboard and I was washing clothes and I had this bandanna on my head and I was sort of heavy. I think it was in Ireland because I could see the green hills and way in the background a castle. When you said to look for a friend, I saw a short stocky man. My best friend I felt like was a little child and a dog. That’s it. I didn’t see anybody else. The second one was strange. I felt like I was a footman, a man for the king or the queen. When you said to see a friend, my friend was the other footman. I relished serving people or helping them without worrying about how much money I made. That was kind of like the theme for that life. I didn’t want to be like my father who took a great deal of pride in being respectable and presenting a great image. I wanted to be the opposite and care more about the people.”

Another audience member: “I got some impressions but they weren’t about the past. I got something of a futuristic impression but I don’t know what or when. I couldn’t get a time. I couldn’t get a name for it. I was looking at a hillside and it was real lush green with a nice blue sky. There was a highway running through it that was different from any highway I’d ever seen. It was shiny. It was a gray/silver/white and it was seamless. I was thinking about the purpose of this highway. It wasn’t to carry traffic but to direct traffic.”

JJ: Were there cars?

Audience member: “There were cars in the air that would key in on the highway and they’d follow the highway from the air. There was a cone of traffic over the highway. The highway was going through some green hillside stuff. It was a shiny ribbon, seamless, and I seemed to know that it didn’t have any dust or dirt on it. It was self-cleaning in all kinds of weather. There was a physical connection between the people and the vehicles and the highway that went through the hillside. It had nothing to do with a past life.”

JJ: We want to go into the future in another session, but you’re jumping ahead of us. (Laughter)

Member: “I had no idea.”

JJ: Did you have any idea of the time period?

Member: “No, I couldn’t get out of that scene. I was trying to figure out that dab-gone highway!”

JJ: It is an interesting concept.

Another audience member: “For a while I didn’t see anything but grit. I’d see straight lines and it wouldn’t let me see anything. I got an impression. It was around 1550. I’m a woman and I’m white with blond hair and a white dress on. I was a student and I saw a professor.”

JJ: What country were you in?

Audience member: “It was in Europe. When you asked if you were a student of what I thought, ‘I don’t know.’ Metaphysics? I don’t see anything around me, just me.”

Another audience member: “I didn’t get the date but it was somewhere between the 1600 and 1800s. I was a white woman named Isabelle. I think it was. I got the impression of London. I wasn’t sure what my purpose was or what I was doing. I may have been a barmaid. I had a distinct impression of being really pretty and not being taken seriously for my mind. It was very frustrating in that life. (Laughter) That part was very aggravating. In the other life I was on another planet somewhere. My name was Velcor and I was at a university doing something with crystals.”

JJ: Was that a Jane Fonda movie? (Laughter from audience.)

Audience member: “Yea! I was just like at some sort of university setting, studying. It definitely felt advanced as far as physics and some high energy sort of concepts.”

Another audience member: “My first past life regression brought me to the 16th century and I was in one of the Mediterranean villages. I was a small girl and I had playmates. It seemed like the second past life regression brought me to the year that Christ was teaching in one of the villages. I’d heard so much about him. I was in a community with a lot of people.”

JJ: You were there in the same time period as Christ?

Audience member: “We were small kids and we’d heard about him and because he was so popular we were attracted to him but we hadn’t really seen him face to face.”

JJ: You just heard about him?

Audience member: “Yes. In our community were a lot of kids and adults. It seems we are so much attracted to this popular guy in a nearby village who was speaking.”

Another audience member: “This wasn’t very clear. It was about the 4th century and I was a transcriber and had these big books but then I became an eccentric and a wild man and I lived out in the wilds with the animals and my hair was all a mess.”

“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people…. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” — Thomas Jefferson

Sept 8, 2009

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Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 7

February 19, 2025February 19, 2025 Joseph Dewey

Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 7
The Interpretation

NOTE: See previous post for the visualization that is interpreted here.

JJ: The path represents your journey through life. So, the first thing you want to see is how far ahead you can see on your path. How far ahead could you see Larry? Quite away? You think you have your life pretty figured out if you can see quite away ahead. How many could see quite away ahead? Quite a few. Good. Now, did the path go uphill or downhill? Uphill? Going uphill means you see life as somewhat of a struggle. It seems like every time you make an advance you have to work to get ahead. Anyone see it going downhill? Don over here thinks he has an easy ride. He’s coasting downhill in life. He’s laid back.

Is your path worn? Have a lot of people traveled it? How worn is it? Is it just a slight path or is it well-worn? Who had a path that was not well traveled? That didn’t have much wear? This means you have a life that you feel not many people have had. It’s an unusual life with unusual circumstances you always find yourself in. If the path is well-worn, you feel like you’re living life the way a lot of other people have lived which is neiter good nor bad.

What kind of day is it? Is it cloudy or is the sun shining? If the sun is shining it means you’re an optimist and see things through rose colored glasses. No matter what happens you just keep plugging along. If it’s dark and gloomy or cloudy, you may be a bit of a pessimist and looking on the negative side there.

You go into the forest. How many saw little animals there? That means you like children. They represent children or it could be different types of friends in your life also.

You go through the forest and get to the body of water. This body of water represents your sex life.

Audience: Laughter.

JJ: The bigger the body of water, the more attracted you are to the opposite sex or if you happen to gay, it would be the polarity you’re attracted to. It shows you’re attracted to energy, in other words. Did anyone here see an ocean? The bigger it is, the bigger your attraction to romantic energy.

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: The deeper it (the body of water) is the more intense is your passion your passion. Did anyone see an ocean? No one admits it? Well, if anyone saw an ocean we’d better keep out of tgheir way!

Audience: Laughter.

JJ: Is the water clean or is it dirty? That shows how you use it and your attitude towards it. You could see it as everything you’re doing is ok or your personal morality is fine with it. If it’s muddy you may need to re-examine your own inhibitions and belief systems. Were there any fish? Who saw a bunch of fish? Anyone who is married see a bunch of fish? That means there are romantic interests in your life. If you’re married you should probably see just one big fish, How many did you see Artie?

Audience: Laughter.

JJ: If you saw lots of fish jumping that means you have a lot of romantic interests in your life. If there is just one fish, there is just one person in which you’re interested.

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: You saw what? People under the water? Maybe your mind just interpreted straight on because the fish represent people.

Now you come to the wall. The wall represents death and how big that barrier is in your mind. All of us, in our minds, think about it some. Some a lot, some not much. How many saw a small wall that was easy to climb over? This means death is not a big deal to you.

You see it as just one more hurdle to climb over. If you saw the wall as something big, it means it is an unknown to you. You don’t know for sure what’s waiting for you over there. You don’t know if you’ll be met by Jesus, the Devil, Buddha, or what.

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: Oh, you saw an opening. You cheated! If you had to walk around it, it shows you aren’t sure about death and it would be nice if you could avoid it.

Audience question: Inaudible.

JJ: As long as you got through it one way or another, if you got through it by some magical means. Oh, there was a door? Okay. Death is manageable to you because you were able to find a way through. In other words, you don’t see death as something orthodox but something mystical or maybe something unusual might happen that you don’t expect. You expect to get through it okay.

Audience comment: Inaudible.

JJ: That means that the different times you consider death you have different opinions. Sometimes you might see it as no big deal but other times you might think, “It could be a big deal.”

You get to the other side of the wall and see your abode. This represents what type of reward you think you deserve. Anyone see an outhouse?

Audience: Laughter.

JJ: I’ve had people say outhouse in the past. An outdoorsy guy may think that’s heaven. How many saw a big mansion or a castle? So, Lorraine, you think you have some good stuff coming? Now you go into your abode and see the furnishings. They represent how comfortable you think you’re going to be in the afterlife.

The cup represents how you feel about responsibility. Was it a big cup or a small cup? If it was a big cup that means you don’t mind taking responsibility. If it was a small cup that means you don’t like taking on much responsibility. The main thing is how much it will hold.

One thing I forgot to tell you. Add this to your visualization. When you found your key, did you pick it up and take it with you or did you leave it lie? If you haven’t gone through that yet, ask yourself now, what would you do? Do you want the key or is it so old and useless that you don’t want it? The key represents your opportunities in life. When you come across an opportunity, what do you do with it? The bigger the key the bigger the opportunities that come to you. The shinier and more valuable the key appears, the better the opportunities that come to you. So if you saw a big gold key, that’s really good. Small gold keys indicate smaller opportunities but they were valuable ones. So the question is, “Did you pick it up?” How many picked up their keys? That means that when your opportunities come, they’re good enough that you’re going to take them. If you leave the key there it means the opportunities you’re experiencing aren’t that great and it’s not worth taking advantage of them. That’s the basic meaning of the key. If the key is old and valuable, that means your opportunities are still good but they’re proven opportunities, not new ones but older opportunities. If the key isn’t worth picking up you don’t feel the opportunities coming are worth taking advantage of at the moment. That doesn’t mean it’s going to be that way through your lifetime because it will change. A year from now you may see a different key or a different body of water or whatever. Any questions about this before we proceed?

Audience question: Inaudible.

JJ: Yes, that continues on optimism and pessimism. As you go through the details of life, which was represented by the forest you see them through a good state of mind. We’ll take a break and go on to a past life regression.

Life isn’t measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. – Maya Angelou

Aug 31, 2009

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Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 6

February 18, 2025 Joseph Dewey

Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 6
Visualization of the Path

Audience: “When you were talking about prophecy and the ability to prophesy, I’m not sure I have her name right but I think Sister Anne Catherine Emmerich, a nun in the 16th century who never left the convent she was in. The book, I think it’s called ‘The Chronicles of Christ,’ is a day by day, almost hour by hour account. She went though such an experience that she almost experienced his life so thoroughly. The only reason I’m saying this….”

JJ: Is that the source of Gibson’s Passion of Christ?

Audience: “I don’t know. I have the book but I didn’t bring it with me. It’s also co-written with a man who was a psychic, a physicist, an astrologer, a Dr and a whole host of things. He collaborated with her. What she says about Christ is similar to what you said the last time. She didn’t say the silver cord was broken when he died but she said he went on. When he resurrected and because he could no longer live in Jerusalem because of the situation, he left with Mary Magdalene who was his wife and also with his mother. They went to France. France has a tremendous history. They said he had 5-7 children with her but she was also able to pinpoint the hour, the minute and the day, and this book is very documented.”

JJ: It’s really hard to say for sure if her prophecies are true there because it’s a period of history that’s hard to define scientifically.

Audience: “They did find the house where Mary lived with Jesus and they found things in that house that she said would be there.”

JJ: Really!

Another interesting thing is that an early Catholic mystic predicted the next 112 Popes. In his predictions about 60-70% of them seem to be pretty close. The Pope we have now is the 111th from the beginning of the prophecy and people think the next pope may be the last pope. This pope is supposed to have something to do with an olive branch. The current Pope (2005), Benedict, is from the Order of Benedict’s which is associated with olive branches.

The next pope is supposed to be associated with the name Peter. I wonder if he picked the name Benedict for that reason. Even he isn’t a 100% infallible and they had to stretch it a bit to match some of the popes to his predictions it is a fairly impressive prophecy.

The best thing for making the future predictable is to make a decision and if you are firm in fulfilling your commitment to your decision, you can predict something that will happen. These are the things that are really predictable. If either we, or the lives higher than us, have something planned out then that can be predicted. Certain scientific ideas can help us to predict things. We’ll talk more about this over the next couple of days.

We’re going to do a past life regression but I think before we do that we’re going to do an interesting little psychological meditation to prepare your mind for what’s next. You can keep your eyes open or close them. It really doesn’t matter for this.

Visualize yourself walking along a path. In the distance the path goes into the forest. Between where you are and the forest is a path. Here is what you want to ask about the path. Is the path worn or has it been traveled on by many? Does the path ascend or does the path go downhill or is it on level ground? Does the path go straight or does it curve to the right or left?

Visualize this path in your mind with all the ingredients of it. As you’re walking along the path, what kind of day is it? Is it cloudy? Is the sun shining? Is it raining? What kind of day is it? Take all these things into consideration and look ahead on the path as it goes into the forest. As you go into the forest what do you see? Does the forest completely shade the sun? Is it dark there or is there still light in the forest? Do you see much vegetation? Are there any animals in there?

Keep on walking along the path.

Now you come to a body of water. What’s this body of water look like? Is it a stream? Is it a pond? Is it an ocean? You look at the water. Is the water clear or is it murky, stagnant or alive? Are there any fish in it? Are any fish jumping? What kinds of life are in this body of water? You walk along the body of water and you turn to the left and pretty soon you come to a wall. You know the path continues on the other side of the wall. You want to get over the wall. Is the wall too high to climb over? Can you climb over it? If you can’t climb over it, do you look for another way around it?

Somehow you manage to navigate to the other side of the wall, either you climb over or find another way. Now that you’re on the other side of this wall you find a place where you’re going to be staying — an abode. It could be a cabin, a house, a mansion, a castle or whatever. Visualize this abode. You go into this dwelling place and there is a table there. Upon the table is something to drink from, a cup of some sort. Visualize in your mind this cup. Is it a big cup? A small cup? A big glass? A mug? What type of drinking utensil is this?

You go outside and on the front door is a key. What does this key look like? Is it a new key? An old key? A shiny key? A dusty key? A modern key? An ancient key? See all the variances of this key in your mind. Does everyone have all that? This is an easy one.

Everyone can visualize these types of things pretty well. Next, we’ll interpret the meaning of what you saw.

Aug 29, 2009

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Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 5

February 15, 2025 Joseph Dewey

Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 5
The Beast and Enlightenment

JJ: It’s an interesting concept if you think of God having to create. He had to create because the impulse to create and manifest experience is built into everything that has life. It’s built into us so much that we can’t get away from it. Even when we sleep, we dream. Dreams manifest experience. People say dreams aren’t real but when you wake up you can remember a dream and how it made you feel.

Our waking lives are the dreams of the soul so we should make the dream interesting. Don’t concentrate on righteousness so much as making it interesting. Righteousness is fine. Don’t create harm but don’t concentrate on being pious or the most spiritual person in the world but make your life interesting. If you make your life interesting, you’ll end up on the spiritual path. This is one reason I think a lot of the dark brothers take the dark path is that they simply didn’t have enough interesting experience so they seek the ultimate experience in selfishness.

The people who truly flavor their lives with interesting experience and still follow the path of harmlessness — this is important — they do not hurt consciously another human or another life but live as harmless as they can. You must be willing to take some risk, add some flavor to your life and have some good experiences. Any questions before the break?

Audience: “I was going to ask about what you said about creating the beast whenever you create an authority outside yourself, is that what you were talking about in ‘The Immortal’ when John was saying that Elizabeth’s doctor already had the Mark of the Beast?”

JJ: Yea. Matter of fact, I’ve written quite a bit about that for the Keys group. It’s in the archives where we go through The biblical Book Of Revelations and talk about the Beast. There is a lot of misunderstanding about what the beast is. In the first book of John, John said the Antichrist is already in the world. (I John 4:3) Some are sitting around waiting for the great Antichrist to appear that will make Hitler look like Cinderella. The Bible itself says the Antichrist was already in existence 2000 years ago. What is the Antichrist? What is the Beast? The Beast is really somebody that takes the place of God in your mind and you give the power of God unto them. You give power to a prophet, priest or king to be the mouthpiece of God for you and to you he becomes your Beast.

Let’s suppose you’re a member of a particular religion. The church teaches that the priest speaks for God. You don’t have enough common sense to figure out what God is saying but he does. What he says goes. If the priest says a particular thing is wrong then it is. The priest is an extension of God on the outside. You have to eliminate God on the outside and put him on the inside. When God is inside, then you have escaped from the Mark of the Beast.

In Revelations, Chapter 14, it talks about 144,000 who escape the Mark of the Beast. They have the name of God written within their foreheads. What does that mean? God is where? Within. Within their minds, within their hearts, within their foreheads. The name of God within their foreheads. These are the people who have escaped the Mark of the Beast. If you haven’t escaped the Mark of the Beast, then the words of the prophet, priest or king is your God and you have put God outside of yourself, for outside authorities are the ones who interpret what God wants you to do.

If they say not to work on Sunday you don’t work on Sunday. If they say not to marry someone, you don’t. If they say you’re to be a shoeshine boy then you become a shoeshine boy. Whatever they say goes because they’re representing God and they can tell you what God thinks and believes. That’s the Mark of the Beast.

The Mark of the Beast extends way beyond religious things too. It extends among government and doctors. A doctor can’t do anything without approval of his peers. He has an outward authority that tells him what he can and cannot do. If a doctor sees a combination of herbs that he thinks will cure cancer, he wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole because the Beast on the outside is telling him no. “You can’t do that or you will be punished. You will have your license taken away.”

So a doctor cannot promote a cure for cancer or herbs that will help because of this outward authority that takes the place of God tells him that he cannot do this. This outward authority is everywhere. No one lives outside the Mark of the Beast. In other words, any job where you work for someone else you’re following some type of authority on the outside where you cannot exercise your own free will to the maximum. The closest you can come to escaping the Mark of the Beast is to work for yourself. By working for yourself you can make your own decisions but you’re still under the Mark to some degree. It’s almost impossible to escape entirely but escape it as much as possible where you can still make a living.

Audience: “Can a Dark Brother attain salvation?”

JJ: It depends on whether he’s totally committed himself to the Dark Side. We’ve heard there are Seven Planes of existence. There is also what is termed ‘The Eighth Sphere’ which is matter of such a low vibration that’s it’s below physical matter. When these people choose the Dark Side they create a physical vibration lower than the physical and their consciousness goes in it. When the consciousness goes into this descent, even lower than the physical plane, they can’t get back out. They lose contact with the Soul and without the Soul they cannot be delivered. They vibrate with this Eighth Sphere which is built entirely of illusion.

Because the Soul can’t go there they place themselves beyond its reach. When they place themselves beyond the reach of the soul there is nothing the soul can do to reach them. Then they slowly disintegrate. This is the ultimate “Second Death” talked about in the scriptures. There are several meanings to the second death but this is one of the meanings. What happens to the Dark Brothers when they reach this place is that they are in a state of disintegration and everything they have built up for hundreds of lives begins to disintegrate. Then they’ll go back to their essence where they began their evolution and start all over again, which we are told will take myriads of time.

After all the forms are shattered, in a future solar system with a future sun, they’ll have another chance to begin their evolution all over again but it will be several billion years from now until they get a chance to start over. Then they start all over again with totally new vehicles and personality. So the Monad starts over fresh. Their Karma is paid off through the suffering and disintegration of their personality selves..

So, they start over completely fresh but it’s a long time and they lose several billions years. Not only do they lose that but they lose all their friends because their friends have moved on to higher heights of evolution whereas these guys are way back in the beginning. They’ll need to form a new field of associates.

There are only a handful of people who go on the Dark Path. A lot get tempted by the Dark Path but because of pain they switch back to the path of light. Only a handful resists all the warnings of the Soul and get concretized in this lower matter where they can’t get out. A lot of people worry about being a Son of Perdition and having done an unforgivable sin but you haven’t gone on this Path as long as you have an ounce of compassion in your heart and a degree of wanting to serve your fellow man you are not on the Dark Path.

The sin against the Holy Ghost is when a person distances himself to the degree that he is unreachable by the Soul.

Audience: “What about Adolf Hitler?”

JJ: I’d guess he’s pretty much beyond the point of no return. It’s possible. It’s difficult to judge people like this. It’s possible that he could turn around in some future life. If he hasn’t completely chosen the Dark Path he’s come dangerously close to it.

My guess is that he has chosen it.

He was definitely manipulated by the Dark Brothers. When we read about him it really sounds like he believed he was doing the right thing. If he was completely tricked by illusion, then he could still choose the Light Path, but if he knew what he was doing, then he’s in big trouble.

Audience: “So you are guessing?”

JJ: Yes, I’m guessing. I don’t know for sure about Hitler.

Audience: “I have a question. You were talking about how we, as entities or beings, can never catch up to the creation of God because by the time we catch up to where He is He would’ve already moved on. So if we are to attain a state of enlightenment, then is all revealed? The infinite? Do we recognize the infinite at that point and become part of it?”

JJ: That’s a good question. If we attain enlightenment here in the physical it would seem to some that we have gotten close enough to God that we can see everything? Not really. In other words, the imagination of God always exceeds our own. There are many levels. Remember the bumper sticker that read, “I found it”? We think we know a lot that others don’t know so we figure they haven’t found the stuff that we know but, on the other hand, there are those who think they have found enlightenment and that’s it. This is what a lot of people want to do. This is the lazy man’s path to salvation. He wants to find it and once he finds it, it’s over. He understands God; he understands everything so there is no more to understand. This point is never reached in the worlds of time and space.

What true enlightenment is and what Buddha reached when he achieved it is: we have the various planes, the astral, the physical and the mental. Above that is the buddhic plane and above that is the atmic plane. Above that is the plane of the monad and above that is the plane of the divine. Buddha reached the Fifth Plane up. He reached the Atmic Plane. He thought he had achieved the ultimate but he didn’t. There are several planes above that. But all these Seven Planes are planes that compose a higher physical plane called the Cosmic Physical. The Cosmic Physical is the lowest of the cosmic planes. Then we have the Cosmic Astral, the Cosmic Mental, and so on. So no matter how high we get, there is always something higher.

The mind and the lives of God stretch out beyond imagination. We might think we’ve achieved the ultimate but when we achieve enlightenment what we’ve done is that we’ve torn away the veil to the next level. When we do that we see so much we think that can’t possibly be any more than that. After you’re there awhile you’ll think that maybe there is more and maybe you ought to look. You look and find, “There is more, beyond belief.”

There are layers of enlightenment. What people call enlightenment is actually a lot of different things. Buddha called it enlightenment when he saw the Atmic Plane. Jesus saw the same thing and called it the Kingdom of God. It was called by different names but it was enlightenment for both of them.

Audience: “Would it be correct to say we’re infinite as we exist in the eternal flow?”

JJ: We can say that. Here’s what I compare it to. A song. And the song I like to compare it to is [the Beatles’ song] “Yesterday” because it’s one of my favorite songs and it’s so basic and easy to remember. What is the beginning to its manifestation? It owes its incarnation to Paul McCartney because he is the one who actually wrote it instead of John Lennon. Right now there is a problem because he wants credit for writing the song but Yoko Ono disputes it. He actually wrote it and when he did he brought the song into incarnation. Then others put it into incarnations with different versions and arrangements of it so it’s gone through probably a thousand incarnations but it is still the same song. It’s still the basic melody. Let’s say we tore up every piece of music that has anything to do with this song. Does it still exist? Has it always existed? Yes. That notes have always been there and will always be there and that’s the way you are. You are a series of notes in the mind of God that have always been there and have always been available. When the right combinations have come forward then you came forward. There was a beginning to you coming forward in creation and there will be an end to the way that you incarnate. You’ll come through all the various pieces of manifestation, all the various fears and learn everything you can from them, then you will go back enriched.

The song, “Yesterday,” went back enriched because it went through these various incarnations and all kinds of arrangements. Before it came down here and manifested, nobody had a clue that it could be put together in so many different ways. It’s been manifest in so many different ways, by so many different voices. You come down here the same way from eternity. The essence which is you, which is called the Monad, never had a beginning, and will never have an end. In that way you are infinite. But as far as the numbers go there is no such thing as an unlimited number. My theory is this: the number of particles in the universe is the number of Pi. Scientists have tried to figure out Pi and have it out to hundreds of numbers but still haven’t figured it out. On the internet they published about 3 pages of numbers for Pi. They published 3 pages just to show people how big the number is. That’s my theory. The number for the perfect circle, Pi, is the number of particles in the universe. However, there is no way to prove that yes or no.

“When you do something noble and beautiful and nobody noticed, do not be sad. For the sun every morning is a beautiful spectacle and yet most of the audience still sleeps.” – John Lennon

Aug 28, 2009

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Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 4

February 14, 2025February 15, 2025 Joseph Dewey

Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 4
Experience For God

JJ: It’s an interesting thing to know that we are in the image of God so to understand God, we have to look at ourselves. We are in His image. We are reflections. In the beginning God said, ‘I want to have an experience so I’m going to reflect myself into an innumerable number of entities that can inhabit a universe and solve all of its problems and work through it until the end of the universe that I have in my vision.’

Audience: Inaudible.

JJ: Because there is no such thing as infinity. It’s unlimited.

Audience: “What do you mean by that?”

JJ: When God decides to create there is no limitation to how much He can do. There is no limitation to the number He can come up with. There is always an end. If you try to count the number of atoms in someone’s body you get up to the millions and billions and trillions. There is a tremendous number of atoms in your body but there is an end. You will eventually reach the total number. If you count the number of stars in our island universe called the Milky Way, you get up to over two hundred billion, but eventually you’ll get to the final and exact number. You’ll count the last star eventually. How many galaxies are there in this universe? In the known universe they figure there are between 100 and 200 billion galaxies and many more beyond our vision. There is a number though and there is an end to this universe. Is there another universe? Probably.

The Dark Brotherhood plays upon illusionary limitations. They say most of the people are going to go to hell, stay there forever and be limited forever. But if there is a beginning there will be an end. If there is any type of limitation placed on us after we die, we will eventually work through it because we are unlimited beings. We will work through anything that limits us. But the Dark Brothers work to instill in our minds that we’re limited forever. We can never be like Christ, we can never be like God, we can never be like Leonardo DaVinci or we can never be a master in anything. But we can be. We can be whatever we want because we have unlimited time to remove all limitations.

When you think that God represents the principle of being unlimited — it’s a liberating thing. It’s probably the ultimate salvation to learn to see yourself as an unlimited being.

Audience: “A Course in Miracles says something about God being incomplete.”

JJ: That’s a controversial thing. Garret just said that “A Course in Miracles” [ACIM] says that God is not complete without us. A lot of new age people teach the opposite in that we are complete in and of ourselves. We don’t need anything else. But we do, really. We all need each other and God needs each one of us. The universe is not complete if a particle is missing.

Part of our purpose as an extension of God is to have an experience with God. One of the objectives in the mind of God is to experience everything there is. In order to assist Him to experience everything there is we have billions of people on earth having all kinds of different experiences. You are having an experience unique and to yourself unlike any other person in the universe. Does that make sense to you? When you think of it no other person in the universe has had a life experience exactly like yours. What do you think? Has anyone had a life exactly like yours?

Audience: “No.”

JJ: Right. We’re all unique in that way and God is a composite of every life in the universe. Your job is to have a unique experience unlike any other life in the universe then He can tap into that experience and that is fruit unto Him. The masters have always spoken of us, as disciples, as being fruit. “By their fruits you shall know them.” Jesus always gave analogies of the fruit of the vine because you are a piece of fruit in a way. (chuckles) Each piece of fruit He tastes, tastes different than any other piece of fruit. Our job is to make our piece of fruit unique for God to taste and to make it taste good. But sometimes in order to appreciate good fruit you need to taste some bad fruit, or sour fruit or fruit that isn’t quite ripe. Some of us give God a bad taste in His mouth.

Audience: Laughter.

JJ: Even God needs to once in a while appreciate the good fruit.

What’s interesting about the religions of the world is that they are anti-experience. They say don’t do this and don’t do that. It’s always thou shalt not. In other words, just do the safe thing. They are against having experience. The old saying goes, “it’s better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all.” In other words, it’s better to go have an experience instead of having it all over with no experience one way or the other.

To have an experience is much more desirable than no experience even if it’s a negative experience. To have loved and lost, is a lot better than to not go through the emotions of what it feels like to really go through it. It’s better to go out there and have the experience for God, for yourself and for everyone you’re going to influence for many years. You’ll find if you read the biographies of many of the great people, they’ve had very colorful lives.

Churchill is one of my favorites. If you read about his life, he was just a guy aching for experience. Matter of fact, when he was young he wanted to go to war. He was aching to fight in a war but there was no war anywhere. There was peace all around. He finally found the Boar War which nobody has heard of. It was fought on some little island somewhere. He had to search out a war to fight. He wanted the experience so badly. That experience that he received trained him in such a way that when he was facing down Hitler he knew how to handle him because he had been through so many experiences that he could predict his next move.

There is nothing like experience to really learn, even if it’s a negative experience. It’s better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all. It’s better to taste what the world has to offer than to not taste it. Go take a few risks. How many people in your life advise you to avoid risks? When it comes to your kids you are really anti-risk. They really make us nervous. When I think of my kids doing what I did when I was young it really makes me nervous. But when I look at my own youth and all the times I came close to risking my life, it was worth it in a lot of ways for it produces good stories.

“Decide what you want, decide what you are willing to exchange for it. Establish your priorities and go to work.” — H. L. Hunt

Aug 21, 2009

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2005 Sun Valley Gathering, Part 3

February 13, 2025 Joseph Dewey

2005 Sun Valley Gathering, Part 3
Guilt and Karma

JJ: The person who suppresses and denies will often blame others. Often this person will describe others in what is really a self-description. Have you ever had someone do that to you? Call you a liar and you’re not lying at all but you’ve noticed that they lie a lot?

Audience: “Some people project their feelings on to someone else because they don’t take responsibility for them.”

JJ: Projection is a very powerful thing. You see it a lot. Most of these people who do project are suppressing some of these negative teachings involving guilt. True salvation is to be delivered from guilt. When I was delivered from guilt it had nothing to do with any teaching from any religion. It had to do with me releasing myself from someone else taking the place of God.

This is what happens when the true Beast is created. Someone outside of yourself assumes the authority of God and you give them that authority. Whether it’s a prophet, priest, political leader, it doesn’t matter. If you give them authority over you like God is supposed to have authority over you then you have an outside God, an image of God that is incorrect, being your conscience. You’re allowing him to dictate what will make you feel guilty and what won’t.

It takes a lot of honesty to eliminate guilt because to eliminate it you need to go back to your foundation beliefs and ask yourself, “Do these beliefs still have an effect on me?” Often they will have a much more powerful effect on you than you can admit.

I’ve often had the case where I’ve met someone who claims to have moved to New Age or metaphysical beliefs and they think they let go of the old beliefs a long time ago. Then I talk to them about it or maybe quote some scripture and they get irritable. The reason they get so irritable is because those old beliefs are still working below the surface, buried. They’re buried in denial.

So we have to go back and unearth and be willing to look at everything we’ve ever felt, believed or thought about in the light of day. Why is Christ called the Lord of Light or Lord of Love? Because that is how deliverance comes. Deliverance comes through light and love. Not too many people are truly delivered from guilt. This is one of the purposes of “A Course in Miracles” (ACIM). How many read that?

One of the main purposes of that book is to deliver people from guilt. The exercises are good for this. They don’t really say that point blank but if you look at the principle of the book, it’s all about the one principle of delivering people from guilt. The teaching of every holy man who has ever lived has led up to this one thing, to deliver us from guilt. But before we can make quantum movements in evolution, we must be delivered from this feeling of guilt ourselves.

Audience: “I watched a program on TV then thought about my own religious teachings. Confronting someone who says Jesus died for your sins, I’ve been thinking about it the past few days. How do you approach something like that?”

JJ: That’s much more different than the religions teach. He died for your sins but in what way? He came and he taught us how to be released from our guilt and how to deliver ourselves from our sins. He got killed for teaching that so in that way he died for our sins.

His death by itself doesn’t deliver us from our sins. Matter of fact, Jesus taught the principle that we’ll be judged by our works and that we have to pay for our mistakes to the last farthing. This is how karma works. When we make a mistake, we have to recompense it to the last farthing before we can have deliverance from the wheel of karma. People often ask the question, “Let’s suppose you kill a thousand people. How can you ever be delivered from such a thing?” If you were a bad guy like Hitler in one life then decided you want to straighten yourself out, does that mean you need to go through a thousand lives and be killed a thousand times? No. If you take out a loan from the bank you have to pay back the full amount say ten thousand dollars. If when you took out the loan you were making $10 an hour it would take a long time to pay back that money. If a year goes past and the note is due and you’re now making $100 an hour, you can pay off that loan much faster than you could’ve earlier because you’re skilled at service and there is a better value for your labor. It’s become much more valuable so you don’t have to work as many hours to pay off that loan because you’re now making more money.

This is how it is with karma. As you develop your skills for service you can pay off a lot of karma with service that will benefit a large number of people. Or let’s suppose you’re in a coal mine and something is happening that may kill a hundred miners and you do something to save all hundred of them. You’ve repaid a debt of a hundred lives. So there are different ways you can pay off your karma without being killed a thousand times. You pay off the karma by paying off the amount that is due.

If your power to pay that off is increased, then you can pay it off quicker. This is what Jesus offered to the twelve disciples when he called them. He gave them power to pay off their karma through service. Through their service they could pay off their karma much faster by promoting His teachings than they could have otherwise.

Audience: “If someone commits a crime and goes to jail, does going to jail pay off anything?”

JJ: That’s a good question. Yes, any type of punishment for a crime does pay off some karma, but this is a very slow process and often creates little if any restitution. Paying off karma through service is much faster.

The advantage the higher lives have isn’t the fact that the future is just there for them, but they have greater powers of reasoning. They can see into the past farther and they can project into the future farther because they have more formulas figured out than we do but they’re not always right.

Matter of fact, you can’t find one prophet that is right more than about 60% of the time. Nostradamus is quoted quite often but he is always quoted after the event happens. Have you ever read “The Enquirer” or the “Weekly World News”? Nostradamus predicts the coldest winter in three centuries next year. Winter comes along and it’s mild and you wonder what went wrong. Then the next one will read that Nostradamus predicted 9/11. Why didn’t anyone see this before 9/11? It’s because the prediction was somewhat vague. Nostradamus wrote in such a way, and often the Biblical passages are this way, such as Isaiah and some of the more complicated verses can be interpreted a lot of different ways.

On hindsight we can say, “Boy it seems to be talking about JFK’s assassination or World War 2, but nobody figured it all out beforehand. Every once in a while somebody figures something out in advance. Some people read the Bible and say, “Every prophecy Jesus made was correct.” Let’s pick one. To the Jews he said, “This temple will be destroyed so not one stone will be left upon another.” This is cited as a great prediction he made which came true. But did it come true? The temple was torn down but there is still stones left upon the other on the wailing wall, right Assaf?

Assaf: “Well, nobody is sure that it is actually a part of it. Scientifically speaking they don’t know.”

Audience: “There is a guy who says that isn’t true because the Roman historians said they did tear the temple down stone by stone and took thousands of people they captured and made them dig under the stones. There is a chance that they’re wailing at a wall that was really just a fort.”

JJ: So if the wailing wall is really part of the temple the prophecy didn’t come true but if what Larry says is true then the prophecy did come true. Another prophecy Jesus said was, “He shall see his seed” and be married and have children. If you read “The DaVinci Code” he did see his seed, well he actually didn’t because he was crucified and Mary Magdalene had the baby afterwards.

Audience: “The legend says she had a daughter before he was crucified and a son after.”

JJ: If we go by the standard Christian belief that he didn’t have any children then that was a false prophecy but if you ask a standard Christian, “how can Isaiah be right if Jesus didn’t have children?” They’ll say, “The seed is the people who believe in him.” There is always a way to work around prophecy so it fits in somewhere.

Audience: “Is it possible that some of these people will be alive when these events take place and not all of them will die? That’s a hard one to reconcile.”

JJ: The way that is reconciled is Jesus says, “This generation shall not pass away before he will come again.” But they say, “This generation could mean an age.” There is an unlimited number of years years in that generation is one interpretation I’ve heard. Believers, by stretching the truth, say every single thing has come true. Another thing about the Bible is that it has been edited off and on by scribes who add things in to make it more reliable and more infallible.

But let’s look at things we know. There are a lot of people who are psychics, like modern day prophets. I’ve met some pretty good psychics. Some are pretty accurate but none of them are 100% accurate. The Bible itself said, in the day of Moses, that if a man comes and makes any prophecy that does not come true he must be put to death. I imagine the prophets were pretty hesitant to make predictions. It’s interesting to think about. Nobody knows the future in all of its details.

A person who I believe to be a master, Djwhal Khul [DK], who gave the writings to Alice A. Bailey through mental telepathy, has the most intelligent writings I’ve ever read. He gives a number of prophecies in his books. I’ve found him to be about 60% accurate. I’ve found others who are considered to have a prophetic gift to be less accurate than that. Edward Cayce is probably about 50% accurate. He predicted Atlantis was going to rise up a long time ago but was wrong.

Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged. Neitzsche

Aug 15, 2009

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2005 Sun Valley Gathering, Part 2

February 12, 2025 Joseph Dewey

2005 Sun Valley Gathering, Part 2
True Salvation

JJ: When you’re training a child, you’ll tell them not to do something but they’ll go ahead and do it anyway. Then they live through the experience and regret it. After they suffer a little pain then they finally learn. The parents say, “I’ve taught you this all along. Why didn’t you just listen to me? If you would have listened to me you could’ve saved yourself all this pain.

Why do you think experience is such a great teacher? If I tell you, for instance, “You can obtain soul contact if you do A, B, C, and soul contact is a really wonderful thing to have.” You might think, “Well, that sounds good.” But maybe there is no motivation there to get soul contact. You’ve never experienced soul contact so you don’t know what it is. But then one day you go through something and have an experience and you obtain a taste of a higher life or a higher energy. Once you obtain that experience, does that change you? How many here have gone through an experience where you’ve encountered a vibration or sensation that you have heard of but never felt before that certain moment? Let’s pick on somebody here. Tell us about your experience.

Audience: “Well, my experience was actually a dream. It was like a dream I never had before. I just saw seven moons above me and they all lit up, one by one by one. As soon as the last one lit up the entire sky lit up and I knew right at that moment that something special was going to happen. Suddenly I was being ascended up. I looked around and there were a lot of people around me. I had this very peaceful feeling, almost a feeling that I had to convince people that everything was going to be okay. Something was going on. My whole entire body heated up like I was on fire. I woke up not knowing what the heck happened but I know something special did happen.”

JJ: After you had this experience can you relate it to people?

Audience: “Yea, I talked to Artie about it. One way of looking at it was like my energy centers opened up, my eyesight opened up and I had so much more clarity than I had before. I’m just more aware.”

JJ: They say one reason we came to this mortal sphere is to experience joy and pain and sorrow. By experiencing the dualities and really going through them, is a lot different than sitting back in some static state and talking about the theory of dualities. Here we’re experiencing dualities. By going through the experience, it produces an enrichment.

It is said that as the soul gathers back to the Source it gathers back fruit of experience. Think of that statement. The fruit of experience. In other words, experience produces the fruit that we take with us to other worlds and that produces a livingness and a joy and an enrichment that we will have in our possession. It’s a fruit that we take with us that we can then partake of and relive if we want to and enjoy it again and again. This is why it’s so important to live our lives so the end of the experience is good and joyous. If the end of our experience is a negative situation, then the fruit that we have will not be good fruit. If our memories on the incident are that you end up hurting a lot of people then you reflect upon it from a higher state it will not be something very useful for enhancing your livingness.

People often ask and this is usually the question that’s called the ultimate question and that is why we are here or why God made anything to begin with. Every time I look up at the stars at night I’m filled with wonderment and I ask myself if the greatest miracle is perhaps that anything is here at all. That’s a miracle. Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees. The greatest miracle of all is that anything exists, even a rock or a planet. The fact that the universe exists teaming with life and we can see it out there is a tremendous miracle. It’s a miracle that we’re here to begin with. So what’s it all about? Why are we even here? Do you think it has something to do with experience?

We’ve all heard the expression that God is one. Let’s go back to when God was one and was in a static condition and just a condition of being. Visualize yourself being the one life and you’re only one and nothing is really happening except maybe in your universal mind you’re imagining some things happening. That’s not really good enough, is it? You daydream about stuff. Then God reaches a point where he thinks, “I’m really getting bored with this imagining what creation would be like. I’m going to make a creation that’s really seems real then I’m going to jump into it myself. I’m going to reflect myself and create divine reflections all over a universe and I’m going to jump in with my being and my life and I’m going to experience, in reality, a state of duality and I’m actually going to go through it – not just imagine it, but I’m going to go through it and work my way out of it. It’s going to be tough.

People feel the need to give God the benefit of the doubt about His power. Our belief system here is that God is perfect. We feel we are safe believing this way. If He’s not perfect He won’t be that mad that we’re giving Him the benefit of the doubt. If He’s perfect and we say He’s not, perhaps He’d be really angry with us so let’s give Him the benefit of the doubt then our doctrine is perfect.

Is God all powerful? Well, yea, we better make him all powerful too. Does God know every little thing that’s going to happen? Is he omniscient? Yep, we better put that in there too. We don’t want to make him mad for believing He is limited. This fear of making God mad or angry with us causes the designers of every religion of the earth to give the most positive aspect and description of God that they can possibly come up with. If you read some of the Catholic Catechisms, “Oh most holy wonderful Divine being…” They say the same type thing in the east, “Most holy exalted divine being, we adore you.” All these statements of adoration originated from the point of fear because they didn’t want to offend anybody up there. They always say the most positive thing possible.

Does God know everything or does he not know everything? We better say He knows everything and burn anybody at the stake who says otherwise. Let’s make sure we don’t offend the divine being. The scriptures don’t actually say He knows everything and they don’t say he is perfect. But they do say this. You and I are created in the image of God. Are you perfect? Do you know everything that’s going to happen? You don’t, do you? Do you know everything in the universe? Are you all-knowing? No, you’re not.

When we set a goal for ourselves we know how it will end, and if we don’t give up on that goal, it does end that way. You only don’t reach your goal if you give up. Think about it. Any goal that you can set for yourself, a goal that is at least possible, you can accomplish if you don’t give up.

You have the ability to know the end from the beginning. This is the way of every life in the universe. Everyone can know the end from the beginning, just like DaVinci painting the Mona Lisa. He knew the image of how the Mona Lisa was going to look but in between he made a lot of bad strokes that he had to paint over to get it exactly the way he wanted. Leonardo was not perfect in the process of painting but by the time he finished the painting was just about as perfect as perfection could be. But in between it wasn’t. He made a lot of unnecessary bad strokes he had to compensate for. That’s the way we are and that’s even the way God is.

Look at this planet. The physical is really just the tip of the iceberg. Theosophy teaches are seven planes of existence for this earth. We are the fourth one down. The creation of the earth started three planes up from us. We’re the lowest point then the earth will go to the astral then to the higher mental then to the spiritual. We’re at a point in this earth life where the earth is far from perfect. God made this earth that isn’t perfect and you and I aren’t perfect. Perfection is an illusion.

The Bible talks about Jesus being perfect as the author of our salvation. The word “perfect” came from the Greek word TELEIOO, meaning He fulfilled the job he came to do. In other words where it says, “He being made perfect”, it really says in the Greek that he fulfilled the job he came to do. Where it says, “Be ye therefore perfect even as your father in heaven is perfect” it basically reads, ‘Do your job even as God does his job. God makes the sun shine every day and gets his job done so you get your job done every day too and you’ll be perfect even as your father in heaven is perfect.

There is another word for perfect which is AKRIBELA in the Greek. This is the word for perfect that we use. It means flawless. This is what we think when we say perfect. We’re thinking the Greek AKRIBELA. Where does this word show up in the scriptures? Where this word shows up is among the people who crucified Jesus. They were trying to be AKRIBELA. They crucified Jesus because he was not AKRIBELA. He violated a lot of laws so they were always accusing him of not being AKRIBELA or flawless. Jesus was far from a flawless man in their minds.

The true meaning of perfection, as it is used in the New Testament in reference to Christ, is to merely set a goal for yourself and get it accomplished. Leonardo De Vinci had a goal to produce an almost perfect painting and he reached his goal so he achieved the type of perfection that Jesus achieved when he became the author of our salvation.

Salvation is an interesting word. The word in the Greek actually means deliverance. It means to be delivered from something. If we study these ancient words we’ll find how misused they are. They’re so misused today that a lot of intelligent people don’t even want to associate with these ancient words like sin, repentance, righteousness. A lot of people want to distance themselves away from these words unless they’re really strong religious people. They feel there is something wrong with these words and something is wrong because we’ve distorted them from the way they were in the beginning.

When people commit what they call a sin, what do they feel afterwards? Guilt. What is guilt? Let’s take the true meaning of sin which it to “miss the mark.” Have you ever shot an arrow at a target or a gun where you’re shooting at a bulls-eye? When you’re shooting and you miss the bulls-eye do you ever feel guilty because you miss? Why don’t you feel guilty?

Audience: “I haven’t been taught to feel guilty about that. I may be mad.”

Audience: “I feel disappointed.”

JJ: Do you hit yourself and think, “I’m not ready to try another arrow? I must do penance and wait thirty days at least. I’m not worthy! I must wait sixty days and purge myself. I must cleanse myself!” We don’t think that way, do we? Why not?

Why do people think that way about sin? Why do they think, when they commit what they call a sin, why do they experience this guilt? And this guilt makes them think, “I’m not worthy of even trying anymore.”

Audience: “I have a question or maybe a comment. If I were just shooting an arrow at a target, nobody gets hurt. If I make a mistake and a lot of people are hurt, then I’d feel pretty guilty about that. Why shouldn’t I feel guilty?”

JJ: With a lot of sins no one gets hurt. Let’s say you were taught that drinking coffee is a sin. If you’re taught that and you drink coffee nobody gets hurt much but if you’re under that religious system, you’ll feel guilty about it.

Audience: “How about if it angers God? If you’re taught it is the wrath of God and you make Him mad, he’ll get you.”

JJ: Does drinking coffee make Him mad? What produces guilt? Fear? That’s part of it. Fear is a big part of it.

Audience: “How about a lack of understanding?”

JJ: That’s part of it. You’re not understanding something and that lays the foundation for guilt. That’s true. What is it that we don’t understand?

Audience: “I think just buying into society’s expectations and trying to live up to those produces guilt. We’re concerned about what other people will think if we do something bad or hurt people. That’s part of it, I think.”

JJ: Let’s pick something that produces guilt. Let’s say Robin does something she knows will irritate Larry so Larry asks her about it and she lies to him. Then she thinks, “Oh no, I lied to him and God says not to lie.” So, she starts to feel really guilty about lying to him. Now, let’s apply the true meaning of sin which is to miss the mark and realize you’re wrong. If you realize you’re wrong you can tell him, “I told you a lie. I’m sorry. I’ll do better.” There is no guilt involved. You corrected the situation and are ready to shoot another arrow at the target.

What produces guilt is this. The commandment or the law that you feel you have gone against was given by God, but not by God himself but by a representative. A man in the flesh is representing God and he’s telling you that you have done something terribly wrong and you need to feel bad. This produces guilt. Instead of God being inside yourself, when God is outside yourself and a human agent gives you a law and you break that law you feel guilty because God is out there.

Let’s suppose God is in here and not out there anymore. If He is within and you are doing your best and you make a mistake then you check within and you think, “I made a mistake. I’ll do better next time.” You follow that and there is no guilt. You’re in communication. You have no individual that’s a mediator between you and God. Your soul is the mediator between you and God so your soul tells you what God thinks.

God reveals His thoughts to you and when this happens you don’t feel guilt any more. When you make a mistake, instead of thinking, “Oh no, I’m not worthy of trying again” you try again immediately. Even if you hurt someone you think, “It’s really bad that I hurt somebody. I didn’t mean to make them angry or hurt their feelings. I’ll do better next time and be more sensitive.” You shoot another arrow at the target and there is no guilt. You may feel disappointed in yourself just as if you were shooting an arrow at the target and you miss but you won’t sit around for a month doing nothing until you shoot at the target again.

This is the true meaning of what salvation is. Christ came and delivered us from guilt. That was his main mission. That deliverance has been lost. Even the people who say they have been saved are still suffering from guilt so they really have not been saved. You’re only saved when you’re delivered from guilt but the regular religious person thinks it’s evil to be delivered from guilt. They think that if you’re delivered from guilt, you have no conscience.

I’ve been free from guilt for many years but I still have a conscience, but if I make a mistake, I don’t think I’m not worthy to do this or that or I’m not worthy to enter the door of a church or that I have to fast. If I make a mistake, I feel absolutely no guilt about it. I may feel bad about it. Like shooting an arrow at the target I may think I screwed up. I just vow to do better next time. This is the way of progress. You can make about ten to a hundred times more progress on the spiritual path when guilt is eliminated.

“There is only one you… Don’t you dare change just because you’re outnumbered!” — Charles Swindoll

Aug 11, 2009

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2005 Gathering, Part 1

February 11, 2025 Joseph Dewey

2005 Sun Valley Gathering, Part 1
Humor & Spirituality

JJ: I’ve never started a gathering with a joke but I feel impressed to start with one today. Has anyone ever heard the joke about the three degrees of hell? Nobody? That’s great. That means you’re in for a good joke. This mobster named Lenny is kind of a bad dude and he dies. He meets the devil and says, “Well, I knew I’d end up in hell. What do you have waiting for me?”

The devil replies, “We’ve modernized down here so instead of just having fire and brimstone we’re giving people choices now. We have three degrees of hell. The good part is you get to pick one to go to. We’re going to open the doors to the three degrees and let you look. Once you choose one you go through the door and there is no retreat.”

So, the devil opens the first door and everyone in there is standing on their heads on razor blades.

Lenny says, “This is pretty horrible. I don’t think I can handle this. Show me the next degree.”

So the devil takes him to the next degree and there is everyone standing on their heads on sharp swords.” Lenny says, “Oh man, this is even worse. Show me the third degree.”

So he shows him the third degree and there is everyone standing waist deep in fresh manure drinking coffee. Lenny thinks, “This isn’t that great but it isn’t as bad as the first two.” So he chooses this degree. Then a couple of the devil’s imps throw the guy into the fresh manure.

A couple minutes later the devil claps his hands and yells, “Alright everyone. The coffee break’s over. Back on your heads!”

(Laughter from audience.)

Tonight, we’re going to talk about experience and a little humor is a good lead in for this topic. Have you often wondered if God has a sense of humor? Some people say that when God made man and man thought he was going to be one of the gods because God says: “The man is going to be one of us,” that some Christians interpret that as God joking. In this case I do not think any joke was involved, but let me tell you a true story about my friend Wayne that you may find somewhat humorous.

Back in high school Wayne and I used to go to Seminary class together, and talk about serious, this teacher of ours was so serious that you couldn’t crack a smile or you were being irreverent to God. Wayne wasn’t serious at all. As a kid he was even worse than he is now. Wayne would often come in late. When he came in late, he didn’t just come in silently and pull up a chair. He would go to the furthest chair in the room. He would stumble over things on the way and knock over a chair or trip over someone’s foot. He always created a disturbance. The teacher was giving a class on something really serious and spiritual from the Bible and Wayne comes in late and stumbles across everything. Looking at the teacher’s face you could tell he was just seething inside and he wanted to get mad but he felt it was wrong so he kept containing his temper. He became more and more irritated with Wayne every day as the class went through the season, but he tried to be patient.

After class, there weren’t enough cars to take us all to school so we’d all rush to get a ride. About two thirds of us could get a ride to school. If you couldn’t squeeze into someone’s car, you had to walk a mile or so. So the faster we could get out of class the less the chance that we would have to walk.

So, Wayne, as we were having the closing prayer, would sneak out during the prayer. He always wound up getting a ride that way. As we were praying I’d open my eyes and see Wayne sneaking out then look at the teacher. You could see steam almost rising off the top of his head. He’d turn beet red like he wanted to strangle that son of a gun. So, Wayne irritated the teacher at the beginning of the class then he irritated him at the end of the class and sometimes irritated him in the middle of the class with questions.

One day I came to seminary late myself and Wayne was outside the class with this new yo-yo. He was standing over the stairwell playing with it. It had a very long string on it. I said, “Aren’t you going to seminary this morning?”

Wayne said, “No, I’m experimenting with this yoyo.”

This other kid named Jerry, from a lower class, came up to me and says, “Maybe I’ll go in your class today.” Then he changed his mind as I entered the door. He stayed outside hidden from sight.

The teacher was talking about the Holy Ghost and every time he mentioned the Holy Ghost Jerry, who was out in the hall with a voice that sounded a little like Wayne would go, “woooooooo” every time the teacher mentioned the Holy Ghost.

You should’ve seen Paul, the teacher. He started turning red and you could tell he was ready to pop a cork. He tried to control himself and continue and he mentioned the Holy Ghost again and each time he did Jerry made his best ghost impression by saying, “wooooooo.”

The teacher turns red again but gets hold of himself and mentioned the Holy Ghost one more time and then comes the ghostly sound again, “wooooooo.”

The teacher says, “I’ll be right back!” He ran out there and I thought Jerry would be in trouble but ole Jerry hid behind the door. So there is Wayne with his yo-yo and of course the teacher figured it had to be Wayne mocking the Holy Ghost.

(Laughter from audience.)

So the teacher grabs Wayne and throws him against the wall. Wayne isn’t the type of person to let anyone throw him against a wall so he grabs the teacher and throws him against the wall. They threw each other against the wall a couple times and Wayne says, “What’s going on?”

(Laughter from audience.)

Finally it got sorted out. It was the one time the teacher had a chance to punish Wayne and it was the one time that Wayne was innocent. Any other time he would have gone after Wayne, Wayne would’ve been 100% guilty.

Wayne, speaking from the audience states:

“He didn’t believe me and I got kicked out of seminary.”

JJ: He didn’t believe you? You got kicked out of seminary over that? You were completely innocent! I could’ve been a witness. You got kicked out for the whole year? I could’ve verified that for you but you probably wanted to get kicked out though, knowing you. Your mom made you go, didn’t she?

Audience: “Explain to us what seminary is, JJ.”

JJ: Wayne and I grew up in the Mormon Church. In the Mormon Church before school starts they have a seminary program for the Mormon kids. One year you learn about the New Testament, another year, the Old Testament, the Book of Mormon and the church history. There are four years. It starts early in the morning before school and none of us liked to go because we had to get up early and go before school started. Wayne’s mom always picked me up and took me and I was almost always late and it irritated her. We weren’t real excited about going but most of the kids’ parents made them go. Wayne was probably happy to be kicked out if I know him.

“Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim.” — George Santayana (1863 – 1952)

Posted July 30, 2009

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Love and Karma

February 8, 2025February 8, 2025 Joseph Dewey

Love and Karma

We received a post from a reader showing appreciation for this group reaching a balance between hierarchical authority and democracy. Then he notes that the group is “imbued with the magnetism of Love that can hold it together in spite of the many controversies that will come and go in true occult and esoteric work.”

I appreciate this observation and an honored you see this as one of the top groups you have come across. But what particularly struck me was your observation of “the magnetism of Love.” In the years I have taught here you may have been the first (outside of myself) to make this observation.

In the course of these teachings there have been many a conflict and many complaints of a lack of love — that the quality of the people here is too low to accomplish anything of note. You are, of course, familiar with the principle of harmony through conflict — that this does not negate the second ray principle of love.

I have sought to assure the group a number of times in differing ways that the love of the soul is here and many of those that seem obnoxious are just sincerely proceeding along the path in their own way and time. I have stressed DK’s teaching of tolerance for other students even though they irritate our personalities.

This irritation runs through all groups and has to be neutralized before productive group work can be accomplished. But one of the effects of centering on irritation is that the general current of real love that does indeed circulate is often overlooked.

As you noted, the magnetism of love is here and does circulate, even though there is some resistance. I will also observe that this group has made considerable progress over the years.

The simple principle of seeing the glass as half full rather than the emptiness ever applies.

Karma & Effects

A reader asks this: “If we ‘cannot step into the same river twice’ because it is always flowing and thus the composition of said river changes from micro-second to micro-second, how can karma or sin stick to an individual who also is flowing from micro-second to micro-second?

JJ: Karma is not composed of the moving drops as in a stream but is the direction of the stream. If you alter its direction then it doesn’t matter how many times the original water changes, the direction will continue until another change occurs.

If you cut your finger off the effect will stay for many years until you die even though the elements that compose your body will change several times.

Jesus said: “Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.” Matt 5:26)

Even so, the last farthing of Karma must be paid before the pilgrim obtains liberation.

We know that if we cause money to be put in the bank we will have the effect of available money (good Karma). We also agree that if you cause a loan to be made at the bank that you will then owe some money (bad Karma).

To say that there is no bad Karma is to say that there are no negative effects. Therefore, if there were no such thing as bad (or negative) Karma is the same as saying that when you take out a loan from the bank that you will owe no debt. In this case if negative Karma is denied long enough you will awaken to reality when you watch the bill collectors haul your car off.

To say there is no bad Karma is the same as saying that when you drive over a cliff that only good things will happen. I think here we all will agree that when we create a cause in this life that an effect will follow.

Now perhaps some think that when we die all of our causes die with us and we carry no effects into the next life, but in principle a cause always is followed by an effect, and they are carried over into future lives.

A Letter

I’ve received some very heartfelt letters from readers over the years and have only shared a few. Here’s one I just received:

Hi, my name is Alex, and I am from Mexico. Let me tell you that the teachings in your books have astonished me, for I haven’t read such good material in a long time.

I went to this retreat (Ramtha) in Yelm, Washington, USA, and there they have what they called “The Quantum Cafe” where there are lots of interesting books. Well anyway, I bought some of Ramtha’s fireside series books, “The Red Lion,” “Brother of the Third Degree,” and also bought “The Immortal.” I still don’t know why I picked “The Immortal” — as it was a simple book with no flashy cover, and somehow the book called to me, so I bought it and brought it back from the retreat to Mexico.

I didn’t read it quite away, and let it gather dust, saving it for a later time. It probably would still be gathering dust if it wasn’t for my brother who wanted something to read, so I told him to grab any of the books that I brought back from the retreat.

Well to my surprise, my brother was greatly fascinated with the book, so I asked him, what’s so special about the book? The only thing he told me was, “You have to read this!. “Okay, maybe later,” I told him.

It was one of those books that once you start you just can’t stop reading it. My brother even gave me money to purchase the other books from the Immortal series. So, we ordered them from Amazon.Com.

I am now on the fourth book — “Eternal Words.”

All of the books seem to have great knowledge from many philosophical currents, and from the looks of it you have read a lot of books. You can tell that by the different quotes in the book that it is not like other “New Age” books that don’t want you to think, and that somehow enlightenment will come all of the sudden.

I don’t care if characters in the novel are real or fiction, the truly important thing is the message not the messenger.

I just wanted to thank you for such good books that have helped me in my own evolution, and maybe you should make translations into other languages, I know it will make a great hit here on Mexico.

I can’t hardly wait to get the other books of the Immortal series.

Alex

“In taking revenge, a man is but even with his enemy; but in passing it over, he is superior.” — Sir Francis Bacon (1561 – 1626)

July 13, 2009

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