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The Pope and The Donald

February 19, 2016 Joseph Dewey

This entry is part 18 of 73 in the series 2015

The Pope and The Donald

I believe that Pope Francis is the first pontiff in history to single out the United States as the evil empire. He hasn’t used that exact phrase, but his criticisms of us reveal that he sees us this way.

First, he criticizes us as being unchristian and greedy because of our free enterprise and capitalism. He seems to think that Jesus wants us enter into the forced sharing programs advocated by socialists and communists rather than leaving sharing up to Christian free will.

Then he lectures to us about destroying the planet though burning fossil fuels, as if we are the only country who has inhabitants driving cars and heating our homes. I wonder if he would have the courage to go to China or Russia and tell them their way of life runs contrary to God’s will.

Then he breaks down the barrier between church and state and addresses both the U.N. and the United States Congress.

Now he adds fuel to political/religious fire and division he has created by attacking a leading presidential candidate. On Thursday, Feb 18, he was asked his views on Donald Trump. The interviewer told the pontiff that Trump “said that if he were elected president he would build a 2,500-km wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants.”

To this Pope Francis said

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the gospel. … I say only that this man is not Christian if he says things like that.”

Well, Donald did say things exactly like that so Pope Francis is definitely stating that Trump is not a Christian.

Some are trying to whitewash the Pope’s statement saying he didn’t mention Donald by name, but this is silly because the question specifically mentioned him by name meaning the answer was directed specifically at Donald Trump.

To his credit Trump didn’t take the accusation lying down. He said:

“No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith,” He added that people in the government of Mexico “made many disparaging remarks about me to the Pope.”

Then he wrapped it up with this creative possibility:

“If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president.”

So, is the Pope justified in attacking Trump as being unchristian for wanting to build a wall to keep illegals out? Is there anything in the Bible that teaches against keeping out undesirables with walls?

To the contrary the scripture are full of support for wall building. The first thing David did when he established the city that would become Jerusalem was to build more walls.

Later the city was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, but after a period of captivity the Jews rejoiced when Ezra and Nehemiah were allowed to return to Jerusalem and rebuild its walls and so Israel could dwell there safely.

Jerusalem has been famous throughout history as the walled city, but the real clincher in this story is not the Old Jerusalem, but the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is portrayed in the New Testament as the City of God where dwells God and the redeemed. Of this it is written:

“Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God … And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels.” Rev 21:9-12

And why does God’s own city have a wall? It is to keep out those who are not citizens of the kingdom of God for the following scripture says:

“And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.” Rev 21:27

“Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without (outside the wall) are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” Rev 22:14-15

Someone needs to tell the Pope that even God needs a wall to keep out those who are not authorized citizens of is kingdom.

It’s almost funny when you think of it, especially when you consider that the Vatican has a giant wall 50 feet high and has such strict immigration rules that Donald Trump looks like Mother Teresa by comparison.

The United States should be the last country that Pope Francis should preach about inclusiveness as we take in more immigrants here than any other nation.

In 2013, approximately 41.3 million immigrants lived in the United States and if we add in U. S. born children the number reaches 80 million or about a quarter of our population.

By contrast the whole United Kingdom only has about a half million, France 332,000, Germany, 693,000 and Italy, wherein lies the Vatican only 307,000 less than one percent of the USA. Then as far as the nation which is called the Vatican goes one is much more likely to win the lottery than become a legal immigrant there.

With such a huge number of immigrants already here it is only logical that we should follow the example set by the Christian God and his city, and establish rules and secure our borders so we can make sure that decent people are allowed to come in and to keep out those that would do us damage.

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Keys Writings 2015, Part 16

February 18, 2016May 26, 2017 Joseph Dewey

This entry is part 13 of 13 in the series 2015B

July 19, 2015

Discovering Illusion

We have covered the first two major steps toward liberation which are:

(1) Gaining control over the physical body and the powerful influences of the material world. These include appetite, sex and money, and/or possessions.

(2) Acquiring power over the emotional body and its distorted influences. This includes the ability to maintain inner peace in the face of any emotional attack or insult. Even more difficult is putting the ego, and its desire to magnify its importance, under control. The disciple will search out all glamours that are affecting him and dispel them. If he feels special because he thinks he has some special mission then he will discover how his ego is handling this and put it in check and will see himself as no more special than his brothers and sisters.

The next great hurdle is the world of illusion. By the time he reaches this stage he has had quite a bit of practice using the mind to solve the problems of glamour. There is some illusion built into every glamour that he had to find and dispel using the discriminating power of the mind. The next step is in finding the illusion in his actual belief systems that can stand apart from emotional attachment.

When the disciple approaches the third initiation he has a moment of breakthrough enlightenment followed by an encounter with the Dweller on the Threshold and the Angel of the presence.

We know that Paul had an Angel if the Presence encounter when he was blinded by a great light and heard the voice of Christ. What led up to this is not recorded. Here is probably what happened.

Like most true believers Paul was caught up from the time of his youth in the illusions inherent in his scriptures, his religion and tradition. These illusions led him to persecuting, to the point of imprisonment and death, the sincere members of the new Christian sect. His illusions caused him to sincerely see them as a threat to truth revealed from God that must be eliminated any way possible. His scriptures seemed to sanction death for blasphemers so his mind reasoned that it was within the will of God to kill them if necessary.

Some time before his encounter he started to analyze and question his belief system. He asked himself, “What if I am wrong?” Then mentally went back to the beginning of his established beliefs and substituted pure logic for that which was the traditional belief and analyzed the results. He didn’t like what those results were and suppressed them for a time and amplified his efforts to attack the Christians.

On the road to Damascus he had time to think and the logic of his possible misdirection came back to him. For the first time he truly opened his mind to the real possibility that his whole course in life had been wrong and what the right course may be if God is truly a God of love.

Before the encounter with the blinding light he was met by the Dweller on the Threshold that presented every possible suffering he would have to endure if he changed direction. He saw that he would be ostracized and possibly put to death by his own religion, but even more horrifying was that if he was wrong he would be condemned by God himself and may suffer for eternity. This was a horrifying thought to deal with that was only overcome by focusing on the love of God, and that if he was truly a son that God would accept him.

It was around this time that he encountered the Great Presence that changed his life and purpose.

To pass the Third Initiation the disciple must likewise examine his foundation beliefs and see them as they are and correct them. He may not be chasing and killing Christians, but he is most likely attacking some great truths in an attempt to kill and suppress them.

Giving signs for recognizing the Third Degree Initiate is somewhat futile?

Why?

If I were to merely say that this seeker has seen through his illusions many readers would nod their heads and say, “Yup, that is me. No illusion is holding me hostage.”

The problem with illusions is that the core ones are not seen by the pilgrim until the third initiation process is actually approached. Thus it seems to him that his core beliefs are sound with little or no illusion involved.

As food for thought I will say this. Many of the core illusions veiling the mind from the Angel of he Presence are centered around the Principle of Freedom. Illusions trick the mind of many into thinking that true freedom is dangerous, not to be trusted, but either controlled or suppressed. Then the other side of illusions here are centered toward no structure that leads to anarchy. Only the shattering of illusion accompanied by good judgment can dispel the darkness.

The bottom line is the question, “Are you free from core illusions?” is not helpful.

However, there are signs in the experience of the disciple of the third degree which are:

(1) He will go through an examination of his core beliefs that will cause him to consider making major changes of direction in his life.

(2) He will have a supernatural expedience where he encounters the Dweller on the Threshold. Check out some of my previous writings on his to see what this entails.

(3) This will be followed by an encounter with the Angel of the Presence (which he will interpret as Christ, God or some other great being).

At the Gathering Lorraine asked something to the effect as to whether we are working on more than one initiation at a time. To this I said no, but the answer needs some more details.

We have to pass the first before we can concentrate on the second and the second before the third etc. BUT… As we journey on the path we learn many things before the first that help us pass the first and the second before we pass he second etc.

To pass the third the disciple needs to have a highly developed reasoning mind as well as an open mind. Many lifetimes prepare the seeker for this moment, from initial brain stimulation, to eventually developing reasoning powers, good judgment and many circumstances forcing him to change his mind. Eventually, his own initiatives will change his mind, not outer circumstances.

This is as far as we need to go in this subject for practical purposes. I’ve already written a lot about the higher initiations that can be found in my previous writings.

The disciple is one who realises his responsibility to all units who come under his influence,—a responsibility of co-operating with the plan of evolution as it exists for them, and thus to expand their consciousness and teach them the difference between the real and the unreal, between life and form. This he does most easily by a demonstration in his own life as to his goal, his object, and his centre of consciousness.

Initiation Human and Solar, Pg 72

July 20, 2015

Thanks for your thoughtful letter Joshua. My philosophy in managing the posts here has been to allow maximum freedom to post. If someone becomes too much of a distraction then I will place them on moderation. I placed Jim on moderation once before and he quit but then wrote me a couple friendly emails so I thought I would give him another chance to post unmoderated. Obviously his present insults are over the top and he is just asking to be moderated again. Even though those on moderation can still post anything that is civil that is not a big distraction he will most likely quit again if moderated. Perhaps it is no fun to post if he cannot ridicule us.

Jim has obviously been a seeker throughout his life and has gathered considerable knowledge and experience. Then when he found his living master who initiated him he seems to have concluded that his quest has come to and end and after death he will live in eternal bliss with no need of further incarnation.

It appears though that further incarnation may be needed as he seems to have a huge hole in his learning curve. A most important ingredient for a true journey on the path is the cultivation of love, friendship and brotherhood. I, along with others, have attempted to extend these qualities to him and in return have received criticism, insults and inflammatory statements. It makes me wonder if he has a friend in the world, for who wants to hang out with someone who returns kindness with insults? One can see why he has not gathered a group on the internet.

I generally avoid people like that. Jim is different than most people that turn mean spirited on me in that he has shown a desire to share, entertain and capable of reasonable humor. I still think he is capable of good things but to realize them he must establish right human relations and seek to love us as much as he does the animals he refuses to eat.

Have you noticed that this is a problem of many who come here causing a disturbance? How much love do you feel from them, how much real sense of brotherhood? Was the hand of friendship extended? Did kindness come through?

I try and set the example here and show love, friendship and kindness to all. If such attempts prove fruitless I do not return evil for evil, but just place m energies where they will be more appreciated.

And now Jim, you have caused enough distraction here so please, in any future posts, cease with the insults, or you will be placed on moderation.

I am sure many wish I had already placed you on moderation, but I believe in extending maximum latitude.

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Stauffenberg’s Motives

Jim writes:

I saw the movie, way before ever knowing you. I thought he was a Nazi in the movie. He rose pretty high in Hitler’s Ranks going along with the extermination of Jews, Gypsies, and Mentally ill German Citizens before his conversion…

Wow, Jim you put the worst possible spin on everyone you do not see as a saint. You distorted history on Bush, now Stauffenberg and probably would me if you had the chance.

Wait. You kinda did that already by searching out and throwing at us an obscure anti Keys site.

Now to Stauffenberg. His two main biographers agree that he did not know of Hitler’s atrocities before 1942. Here is what was written after he learned about them:

Claus Stauffenberg’s radical change of position came in 1942, and it was provoked by the crimes of the regime – the mass murder of Jews, Poles, Russians, prisoners-of-war. The available evidence shows that other issues were secondary.

In May 1942 Stauffenberg was informed of the mass murder of Jews by Lieutenant (Res.) Hans Herwarth von Bittenfeld, a former member of the German embassy in Moscow who had served in the campaigns in Poland and Russia and since March 1942 had been working in Foreign Office Section XIII (occupied and unoccupied USSR) under the former Ambassador Friedrich Werner, Count Schulenburg. Also in May 1942, Stauffenberg and Herwarth received an eye-witness report from an officer about how some SS men had rounded up the Jews in a Ukrainian town, led them to a field, made them dig their own mass grave, and then shot them. Upon hearing this report Stauffenberg said that Hitler must be removed. He believed that the senior commanders had the duty to put this into effect.

During the second or third outing, in August 1942, Stauffenberg said suddenly: ‘They are shooting Jews in masses. These crimes must not be allowed to continue.’

In 1943 he declared that no sacrifice would be too great to have the mass-murderers of the Jews prosecuted by German authorities, before the Allies did so after Germany’s inevitable defeat.

Quotes from Peter Hoffman’s Biography on Stauffenberg

It is amazing that he spoke up at all when considering the danger of expressing such opinions. You do not hear of anyone in the military in North Korea or Cuba speaking up against any disagreement.

Hoffman says that the conspiracy’s main foundation was on the opposition to Hitler because of his atrocities.

As far as him being a Nazi he says:

The Stauffenbergs were not governed by a ‘world view’, but rather by the rejection of thought systems. Claus Stauffenberg never inclined towards any political party. A close friend said that if Claus had ever thought in earnest about political parties he would have formed one himself.

To say that Stauffenberg was a Nazi because circumstances forced him to work under Hitler is like saying I am a Democrat because I have to labor under Obama.

Here is another biographer’s account of an incident of Stauffenberg dealing with the Nazis back in 1934:

On 16 September 1934, Stauffenberg and a colleague were sent as representatives of their regiment to attend an official Party Day lecture in Bamberg. The speaker was the notorious Gauleiter (provincial Party boss) of Nuremberg, Julius Streicher, perhaps the most obscenely vicious of Nazi racial theoreticians-a man whose charisma was matched, if not positively exceeded, by his nastiness. Stauffenberg already harboured a personal grudge against Streicher, who had published an attack on Stefan George. At the lecture, Streicher launched into one of his customary pornographic castigations of Jews. So offensive did Stauffenberg find this torrent of rancid rhetoric that he did what, in the context, amounted to the unthinkable. He was a tall man, and conscious of his height. Accompanied by his colleague, he suddenly stood up, left his seat, stalked down the central aisle of the hall and proceeded to the exit. Here he was intercepted and stopped by SS personnel, obviously annoyed at the conspicuousness of his action; but the SS, at this date, could not afford to alienate the army, still less a dynamic and promising young officer of Stauffenberg’s social status and aristocratic pedigree. After a brief verbal altercation, he and his colleague elbowed their way past the black- clad minions and out of the premises.

From Secret Germany by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh

Doesn’t sound like he was impressed with Nazi doctrine and it is an historical fact that he gave his life fighting against Hitler and his Nazi doctrines.

July 21, 2015

Proof of Life After Death

Robert was questioning the many views of an afterlife thinking from the point that there may not be one at all or it may be much different than we think. For instance, maybe we just hop from one body to another after death.

First let us talk about evidence of life after death. One of the most powerful arguments for it, and rarely used, is the fact that you now exist. Why is this evidence? Because science has discovered that anything that exists cannot be proven to ever be destroyed. Matter may at times seem to be destroyed, but it is not. Instead it is merely converted into pure energy, which can then be converted back into matter.

Even so, there is something that exists beyond the physical that makes you what you are. Logic tells us that this something will persist and cannot be destroyed any more than matter can.

Close your eyes and try to imagine a time when your essence will not exist and never will again. I cannot.

The second most powerful proof of life after death concerns a subject shunned by orthodoxy in the Western world – reincarnation. If you and I are reborn again and again in different bodies then obviously something survives death to live again.

I have proven reincarnation to myself, but some of the most powerful evidence is very personal so I will move on to other evidence.

Here are some comments from my book Eternal Lives about evidence produced by Ian Stevenson who investigated thousands of people who remembered past lives.

This conscious remembering is not as rare as many may think and this phenomenon caught the attention of Dr. Ian Stevenson, the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, about forty years ago. Since that time he has traveled the world studying these people and has accumulated about 3000 cases in his files.

Most of the more amazing cases occur with young children just a couple years old who are just learning to speak. As a general rule they remember the past life for a couple years and lose the memory around the age of five or six.

In a typical situation the child may insist that her parents are not really her parents, but that her true parents (and perhaps spouse) are in another city or part of the country). Dr. Stevenson tries to catch these children before they had a chance to visit their home of a previous life and take them there and scientifically examine their response. In many cases the child’s memory of a past life is proven, for the name given out is discovered to be a real person who died. The child is then taken to the home of her past life and will identify dozens of memories that she could have not acquired in this life. If there is some secret hiding place he or she will identify this. If there are favorite possessions, these will be pointed out.

In one case a young girl identified a previous spouse who refused to believe that the little girl was his dead wife reborn. She gave identification after identification of information only the wife could have known, but still the guy was unconvinced. In desperation the little girl pulled him aside and step by step told him exactly what she did to him when they made love as husband and wife. That did the trick. The man was convinced.

Basically Dr. Stevenson likes to get about twenty-four items of identification from the child of things that she could have not known, about the family and circumstances of the past life before he will take it seriously or even write about it.

Perhaps even more startling than the evidences derived from recalling past lives is Dr. Stevenson’s more recent work on corresponding birthmarks from one life to the next. He discovered that if one has a wound, particularly one that caused death, such as a gunshot, that the person will often have a birthmark in the exact placed where the wound was in a past life. What is even more fascinating is that if the person received a bullet wound which penetrated the body and left an exit hole that the entity will have a birthmark at both the point of entrance and exit.

Even more interesting is that the exit wound is larger than the entrance, and when the corresponding birthmarks are examined he found that the birthmark at the location of the exit wound was also much bigger.

Dr. Stevenson examined 895 children, who remembered past lives, for birthmarks, corresponding to wounds and found related birthmarks on 309 of them or 35%.

The chances of this happening are very miniscule. The average adult has about 17 square feet of skin stretching over his body. That is 2448 square inches. Now the chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of the body in a current life as a wound in a past life is 2448:1. The chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of both an exit and entrance wound is much greater: 5,992,704 to one, yet Stevenson turned up this startling evidence time and time again.

The interesting thing about the birthmark study is that the “tricky devil:” theory is even more ridiculous. To believe the devil is bouncing around stamping birthmarks on children defies all logic.

If there is something that survives death and moves on to another body then there is something that has to exist between lives. It is not logical to assume we just jump from one body to another as there are seven billion people on the earth today whereas earlier in our history there were only a few million. Where were the extra billions back then? They had to exist apart from the physical plane.

Michael Newton conducted a breakthrough investigation into what happens to us between lives. He took over 3000 people back using deep hypnosis that required three hour sessions to achieve. What makes for interesting evidence is the consistency of the testimony that came from a wide variety of subject some of whom were agnostics or even atheists.

Additional evidence is supplied by others who have done similar investigations into the afterlife as they come up with the same details.

Newton’s subjects did more than just reveal a nebulous afterlife but gave many interesting detailed descriptions of what happens there.

In a nutshell he revealed that most wander the lower etheric/astral realms for a while and then return to the spirit world to their soul group where they are reunited with their soul. Afterwards they experience a life review assisted by 2-5 elder souls. Rather than being a condemning judgment the review merely assesses how he did in his last life and what he an do to prepare for the next.

There are archives of libraries there containing the history of each soul as well as the history of our planet.

Before we incarnate we see a projection of how that life is likely to work out so we will be aware of what we are getting into.

There are clues we create in advance so we will recognize people who are important to us. I know the clue I had for my wife was the first time I saw her handwriting.

He says that each soul has a different color depending on his state of evolution. Unlike here you can tell how far along the path another is by merely checking out his color. He points out that many who came to him thinking they were far along and thought they were on their last life were surprised to find out they were really a newer soul when their coloring was revealed. Each soul group has the same basic color.

These are just a few points that have been very consistent in life between life recollections brought forth by Newton and others.

The most noted evidence of life after death is from the near death experiences. So many of these have been revealed that even some standard scientists have studied the phenomenon. They are perplexed that memories can be retrieved from a time period when the heart was not beating and the brain had ceased from functioning. What is even more baffling is that some have reported leaving their bodies and encountering events and conversations away from the hospital room and accurately recalling them.

A final evidence is produced by many who have had out of body experiences. This work was pioneered by Robert Monroe. He and his students not only give evidence that that there is more to us than the physical but a number of out of body experiences include visits with those who have long passed on from this life.

The greatest proof of all are experiences achieved through soul contact but such things are not allowed to be introduced as concrete proof. Even so, the senses of the soul are much more real than those of the physical body.

Overall, the concrete evidence of life after death is pretty potent and few non believers have examined them all. If they do then few honest people could deny that the evidence powerfully suggests that there is more for us to experience after the death of the physical body.

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Doctrines of Devils

Ken, I hope you realize that I was making an attempt to display my humorous side. Now let us look at the scripture seriously. It says:

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Now this could apply to you, me, both of us or neither. Which is it? Maybe a more complete quote would provide the answer.

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. I Tim 4:1-5

Okay, the bad guys Paul talks about are identified as doing the following. Do they apply to either of us?

(1) Speaking lies in hypocrisy;

I do not speak lies in nor out of hypocrisy. I think you have mistaken beliefs, but see no evidence that you lie.

(2) having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

This applied to many who resorted to persecution and other harmful acts. I know I have a good guiding conscience and see no evidence that you do not have one.

(3) Forbidding to marry

As far as I know both of us support marriage and do not forbid anyone from it.

(4) commanding to abstain from meats

I haven’t commanded anyone to abstain from meat, have you? I don’t think so.

Conclusion: It looks like neither you or I are guilty of the doctrines of devils that Paul was revering to. Maybe we should cease from any accusations on the matter. After all, who is called the accuser of the brethren?

“…for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.” Rev 12:18

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Larry W

JJ also said that Sanat is counted as a “rebel” among his peers. Just transpose the n and the t so Sanat becomes Satan. I (we) have no way to positively verify this idea. So I guess this falls to our resident Seer. What do you think, JJ?

I do not think Sanat Kumara is a fallen Lucifer as he is identified as one of the seven great Spirits before the throne of God by DK – even though he presides over a non sacred planet.

The problem is that the name Lucifer, as used by Christians, only refers to Satan whereas most Lucifers have not fallen, as Jesus is called a Lucifer (Morning Star) in the Book of Revelation.

DK did indicate that Sanat was a rebel but I think he was stressing that he is attempting techniques that are not done by other Logoi.

The thing to always look at is the real manifestations of Good and evil and where they come from.

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Clay:

And you made my point or me. I disagree with you and now you claim that I call evil good and good evil. That is exactly what is wrong with your teaching paradigm and your entre world view JJ.

Wrong Wrong Wrong

The problem was not that you disagreed with me. The problem was that you label harmless things as evil – such as Blayne’s lighthearted comments. Get a life, man.

Clay

People can not just disagree with you, or have a difference of opinion with you, you have to label all disagreement with you as evil.

Wrong Wrong Wrong & Double wrong and you cannot give one feeble example to support this crazy minded accusation.

Clay

That is exactly what authoritarians dictators do.

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Equating anything I have done here with an authoritarian dictator is mean spirited to the extent that Alan looks like an angel. What the hell is the mater with you???

Clay

so maybe Jim was correct in his criticism of you. Even before I ever posted on this forum by Richard that my political views would be attacked ruthlessly on this forum, and I a Tuvalu blew it off as you seemed really reasonable in spiritual exchanges, but turns out he was totally right. I truly, truly expected better of you.

You are not making any sense here. What have you been smoking? The last post we received from Richard was praising me for being more accepting than Allan.

Clay: Again, i am just pointing out your total inconsistency in treatment between Blayne and Jim.

Wrong Wrong Wrong

You have only done this in your wild imagination.

Clay

I must be a member of the dark brotherhood if I disagree with you.

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Almost everyone on this forum has disagreed with me including Dan lwk, Ruth and most others. And they are not part of any dark brotherhood. You have no idea of what I am talking about when I use this term. Where you getting these crazy ideas???

Clay:

So of course how would I ever know good from evil.

Using the quality of your logic lately that is a good question.

Clay:

Also, I don’t believe in good or evil.

That explains a lot. Those who cut off the heads of those who do not conform are just as good as you are. Yeah, right. You have been an irritation lately, but I would hope you see yourself as good in relation to the head-cutting-off bunch. Maybe not.

Clay

I believe in positive and negative karma. I do not acknowledge the existence of evil as anything real. Evil is an illusion.

So when the evil dudes cut off heads, the heads do not really roll because all is illusion??? You are a piece of work indeed.

Clay

Again JJ if your master DK is so advanced he should mention something about Tulpa’s and egregores in his teachings.

He spent a lot of time on these but called them thoughtforms. You need to get informed before you mindlessly lash out.

Clay;

No one is opposing you

JJK

So you are calling yourself a nobody then? At least we are seeing some humility here.

Clay

or out to sabotage your special mission to the world.

I am not complaining.

Clay

You are not that important. Neither am I, the difference s I am ok with that.

I don’t think so. You seem to think you are much more important than I.

Clay:

Hey we all want to feel like we matter, I totally get it, and you do matter, you just aren’t any more special or chosen than anyone else on this planet.

And you are saying this because??? Sounds like a false humility in a feeble attempt to feel important.

Clay:

But hey, do whatever gets you through the day. I don’t think you are evil JJ,

Why the change of thought here? Feeling a little guilty are we?

Clay

just a little arrogant and authoritarian, despite your professed libertarianism.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. You cannot back this up. Just another mindless accusation.

Clay

Also less delusional than Allan. I also don’t take sides.

You are deceiving yourself. You are into black and white, light and dark, good and evil as much as the Fundamentalists. You are just fooling yourself.

Clay:

But hey, I can’t follow a logical argument or tell good from evil and have the mark of the beast so what do I know.

That has nothing to do with my teachings on the mark of the beast. If you really understood what I say you wouldn’t be so contrary.

Sometimes you come across as someone who is contrary for the sake of being contrary.

We once stood together against unreasonable accusations on Allan’s list. Now I have to deal with another Allan type of unreasonableness.

Can anything good come out of Allan’s forum?

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Clay:

Jim was being singled out and treated differently because he does not tow the keister line.

That is just plain silly. One of the main rules here is to treat each other civilly. I usually give a warming first as I did with Jim and he ignored it so I put him on moderation, But even on moderation he can post as long as it is civil.

I didn’t bellyache when Allan put me on moderation – and for not for breaking any rule as did Jim..

Clay

JJ however sees Jim’s statement as pure evil.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. Where do you get such crazy ideas?

Clay

There are mean people, malicious people, sadistic people, but no person is evil. There are mean people, malicious people, sadistic people, but no person is evil. People will do awful, terrible things to each other, but no, an bad action does not make a person evil, not even your arch nemesis Hitler.

Most people would call someone like Hitler evil. You must have some weird definition that is not in the dictionary. You can’t really reason with someone who has floating ephemeral definition of words. You are a moving target.

July 22, 2015

Noah

“Suppose one more soul would have repented and entered the ark with Noah? Today he would probably have about a billion descendants that would praise his name for making the effort to live according to the witness he received. As it is, there is not the name of one person or his children who lived at the time of Noah who is remembered on the earth today. Even Noah is not remembered for his success as a preacher, but his name is great today merely because he obeyed the Lord and physically survived. “

I thought that God hand picked Noah and his family, as the only humans alive who were supposed to be saved, at the time of the Great Flood? Noah had found Grace in the Eyes of the Lord.

In Genesis 6-9, it states that God wanted to destroy every corrupt living human and animal on Earth with the flood.

Therefore, who are the other souls who should have repented, and entered the Ark with Noah?

Also, is the physical manifestation of the Gathering of Lights in Zion, like a type of Noah’s Ark? I know that you have written something to the effect, that once the Lights on Earth all shift to one spot on Earth, then this will cause something like a magnetic reversal, because it will move the poles of Earth.

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Good and Evil

Clay:

I do not subscribe to any belief system that divides the world into the good team am the bad team. ISiIs does many horrorific things we should try to see them as damaged humans, not evil ones.

You are spinning your wheels attempting to create division over arguing about the meaning of words. It all depends on how one defines evil as to how such a thing manifests. If a person defines evil as eating peas then that is evil by the way he defines the term and you need to communicate with him using this realization. If this “damaged” head cutting off bunch are defined as evil because of such “damage” then that would be evil by definition – and it would also conform to the dictionary. Something IS in the English language because we define it so. If we do not define our words then we cannot communicate.

You cannot communicate with us about good and evil because you do not use any standard definition. If you are going to use a definition that is not in the dictionary then you should define the word do you can make some sense. Why even use a word that has no existence behind it? The fact that you use the word ”evil” so often (much more than I do) shows that you do believe in it. You appear to think it is spiritual to not believe so you put yourself in that elite category. That must feel so smug.

If you believe in good then you have to believe in evil for we live in a world of duality. If there us hot there must be cold. If there is and up there must be down etc. If you believe in “up” but not “down” then you will still fall down when you stumble. Saying you do not believe in “down” changes nothing. It just makes you look silly.

You appear to see anyone being evil if they use the word evil for you attack them as a believer would attack an evil person.

Clay

I will pray for those who persecute me and love those who hate me, even you and JJ

I do not hate you or persecute anyone but do find it annoying that you put words in my mouth time and time again and now are accusing me of hating you while portraying yourself as a saint praying for me.

Clay:

I do know that Christianity conquered Rome not through armed self defense, but through non violent resistance.

You are mixed up here. It was Rome that conquered Christianity and after the conquest proceeded toward many bloody wars in the name of Christ.

I generally advocate non violence but there is a time and place for everything. Sometimes in the defense of freedom, such as World War II, you have to respond with force.

Mystics were dead wrong in many cases. Just because someone is or was a mystic does not make him correct. Often the path of non action is merely the path if avoidance opening the door to great “damage.”

“Damage” triumphs when good men do nothing.

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Clay:

Imagine if you were teaching a class on Spanish and someone who signed up for the class started interrupting the course incessantly with statements such as.

You shouldn’t be teaching Spanish. French is the right one to learn. If you are enlightened you will learn French.

You think I am evil if I speak French in class.

Your sourcebooks are all wrong. They do not even teach good Spanish.

And your teacher has no idea what he is talking about for he only mumbles balderdash.

This is what you are doing in this class.

Okay, we get your point, you do not agree with anything any of us seem to believe, even though, contrary to your belief, our main source material is the living soul whereas yours is dead mystics.

Fine. We get your point. You think the members here are a bunch of backward hicks.

Point taken.

Now let us move on and discuss the topics I introduce here and cease from the disruption. Many students are waiting for further teachings and all you are doing is interfering. This is a disappointment because you have the talent to add things in a positive way, but such a direction does not seem to enter your head.

If you do not accuse each other, God will not accuse you. If you have no accuser you will enter heaven. What many people call sin is not sin; I do many things to break down superstition, and I will break it down.

Joseph Smith, Jr.

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Correcting the Record

Clay:

Some of JJ teachings run contrary to both those of Buddha and Jesus. I stand by that.

You stand by it but do not prove you point, but only find fault with nothing to back it up.

Clay

Jesus and Buddha both taught voluntary poverty,

They taught to not be attached to physical possessions, which is different than teaching poverty. Jesus never taught poverty and Buddha taught against extremism. He lived in extreme wealth and extreme poverty and said neither supported the path to enlightenment.

How about posting a picture of where you live and the car you drive to show us an example of your poverty? Or are you beyond practicing what you preach?

Clay

JJ endorses prosperity teaching.

First I heard of this, though there is nothing wrong in poverty or riches if correctly used.

Clay

Jesus and Buddha were unequivocal in their renunciation of lethal force.

Again no proof is cited.

There is a time and place for everything:

Luke 22:36 Then said he (Jesus) unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Matt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

and in righteousness he (Christ) doth judge and make war. Rev 19:11

Clay

I am not setting up straw men, I am arguing over JJ’s direct teachings.

You aren’t presenting any arguments. You are just making declarations with nothing to back them up except your own authority, which seems to be enough for you.

Clay:

JJ tells us in his books that this type of sacrifice is no longer needed in the new age.

As usual you do not represent me correctly. I have taught that they keynote of the age of Pisces is sacrifice and that of Aquarius is Service. This doesn’t mean that sacrifice is no longer needed, but that is not where the emphasis of the teachings of this age will be. We will take the lessons of sacrifice and incorporate them as the human race learns the lessons of service.

Clay:

show me where I have misrepresented JJ’s teachings?

I just did. I could go on but am limited on time.

Clay

I do not believe he understands Buddhism or Christianity with the insight he claims.

And I do not believe you understand them either. You never back anything up, but just declare what you believe. I’ve written books on Buddhism and Christianity. What have you done?

Clay

Allan Watts if you have ever read him has illustratef the great truths in both on those religions,

And I could name a hundred authors who have written books. That says nothing to back up any point you make.

Clay

JJ has created a hodge podge of theosophy blended together with Mormonism.

All the ammunition you gave is to ridicule. You never quote what I say and comment on it but just say I am wrong. That us an extremely weak approach.

Clay

So far all I see is people telling me I am wrong with zero supporting argument or evidence. If there is a dark brotherhood, prove it.

You have it backward in dealing with me. I have written millions of words backing up my teachings. What do you have to back yours up outside of declarations of belief and telling us to read books.

Clay:

Again I am perfectly fine if JJ disagrees with me, but JJ seems to get his feelings hurt when people disagree with him, especially on political issues.

I think it is the other way around. You seem to be really bent out of shape because I do not think the same as you politically. My feelings are not hurt if someone disagrees with me. Now, name calling and false accusations are something else and such things break the forum rules and show a mean spirit.

A number of comments you make sound as if you take my fiction books as 100% truth. The Immortal series is a blend of fact and fiction as far as the story line goes with the teachings to be as true as I am able to write them. The millions of other words I have written contain no fiction, save a few parables.

Clay

But he should maybe tone down his messiah complex a bit, and just seek to help others come to a broader understanding of spirituality,

Maybe you see some false messiah complex in me because you are looking in the mirror at yourself. Just one more mean spirited, unloving, unjustified accusation with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Clay:

I just take his more grandiose claims with a bit of skepticism.

Another false accusation. I make no grandiose claims.

Clay

I do not see JJ as my teacher, or father, he seems to be my equal, so I will treat him as such, as should you.

We do treat each other here as equals here, but we are all at different stages on the path possessing different knowledge on different things. Don’t tell me you are going to be like Allan and spend many posts trying to teach us and then insist you are not a teacher.

People come hear to learn what I have to teach. I made the mistake of inviting you and Jim here who have no interest in anything I teach so it turns out all you do is distract the group from what it is they have chosen to learn. Posts like yours force me to delay my next teaching post and answer all kinds of false statements and accusations.

If this s not the environment you want then we are fine with the idea that you drop out and find a group that will accept you.

That may be difficult as I know of no other group who wants to be saturated with accusations and distortions of their thinking while being preached to of the love of Jesus.

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Clay:

The difference is JJ I did not see this as a Spanish Class.

JJ Then you must be the only one with an imagination wild enough to not see my point. Of course, this is not a Spanish class but it matters not what you teach, the teacher must keep the students focused on the material with a minimum of distractions.

Clay:

In high level intellectual classes as long as the opinion expressed is on topic, all sides and points of views are expressed.

If this is what you think then why are you never on topic but try and set your own agenda? I do not recall you commenting on any teaching post I have made. Instead, you conjure up what I do not teach and comment on that. This approach would not be accepted by any teacher out there. Most students here think I am way too tolerant of off topic challenges.

Clay

A good teacher does not get upset when students disagree, even vehemently, he allows the dissuasion as long as the views are supported with decent argument.

You have no power to upset me and no one upsets me by merely disagreeing. I find it unacceptable to insult, make false accusations and divert the class away from the things they came here to learn. That is very selfish to get the class centered around the one at the expense of the interests of the many.

Clay:

This is not a Spanish Class. This is supposed to be a spiritual classroom where you teach on the ideas of Jess, Buddha, an other spiritual teachers. So from what I can tell, my post are perfectly on topic.

There are thousands of topics in spirituality and you have not been on topic. You only lead us away from what we want to discuss. You want to talk about duality, but we have already spent months and hundreds of thousands of words discussing every aspect of it. Older members just sigh when this overworn subject is brought up again. It is strange how almost every contrarian that comes here preaches to us the same things about duality with the fervor of a fundamentalist Baptist.

Duality is not on topic, especially if nothing new on the subject is addressed.

Clay:

I am also not interferon (interfering) with any of your ability to teach or for anyone to learn. If you choose to respond to my post repeatedly, that is solely on you, same with every other forum member on here.

If I do not respond to people who accuse I get asked as to why I do not respond by some. However, I am just about done responding and will put you on moderation if necessary to get us back on track as you cause quite a few others to digress also.

So please, be kind like the Jesus you advocate and cease to accuse just to be accusing and throw in some constructive thinking and ideas on the subjects at hand as we move along.

You seem to be treating Richard with some respect and you did me in he beginning so it is within your ability to do this.

July 24, 2015

Astrology and Past Lives

Adam writes:

How significant is an astrological birth chart to an astrological death chart in the identification of a past life? I assume two such charts could have numerous parallels and yet be mere coincidence, just based upon the numbers of birth/death occurrences, and the cyclical nature of charts. So, is it merely something to consider as additional evidence of a suspected past life, or is there some real evidence to consider when comparing similarities of things like, Sun, Rising, and other signs . . .???

Good question. I have never done a death chart nor have I heard of any other astrologer using one. If your birth chart tells us of energies at play during life them maybe a death chart would give energies at play in the immediate life after death.

It would be interesting to compare a number of death charts to future lives.

What some have done in an attempt to prove reincarnation is to compare the natal chart of a supposed past life to a current one. David Wilcock, who believes he is a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce has done this. Here is the site where he makes the comparison.

LINK

The problem with looking for similarities is that we often select entirely new influences for ourselves as we will be dealing with new challenges as we progress from life to life. Therefore, it is unlikely that one will be able to prove reincarnation by similarities in natal charts.

The exception may be a failed life where the soul tries to retrace its steps in a new life. A person who commits suicide in one life may wind up with some close similarities in another. On the other hand, a soul in a high state of progression may enter a new life with striking contrasts to the other in his new natal chart.

Astrologers generally believe the nodes of the moon give us hints about karma we have to deal with from past lives. Here is one person’s interpretation of the nodes:

The SOUTH MOON NODE is symbolic of your past, your Achilles Heel—the footsteps you have left behind during prior lifetimes. It signifies the karmic residue that you have yet to balance or transmute. The magnetic pull of your SOUTH MOON NODE can feel like a heavy burden that you are carrying until its lessons are learned—it may pull you backward if you are not consciously aware of its presence and choosing to move forward toward your NORTH MOON NODE.

THE NORTH MOON NODE is the symbol for the future—the new cycle to which your look forward. This Node magnetically pulls your Soul toward its future growth. Divine Providence offers much help in this forward movement. Deep within, you will feel a sense of direction … your purpose spurs you on in spite of all the obstacles. Your NORTH MOON NODE “symbolizes the highest area of expression to be reached in the current life and therefore must be interpreted by the highest qualities of the sign and house in which it is located.”

“The most amazing feature about the NORTH MOON NODE is that however much [you] achieve it, there is always more to go—as it truly represents [your] everlasting spiral towards God.”

LINK

Another theory is that retrograde planets in a chart indicate negative past life karma that must be worked out.

DK gives some additional food for thought. He tells us that most of us progress around the zodiac in a clockwise motion, until we enter our last round and perform the Twelve Labors of Hercules in twelve different lives (or cycles). Then we move counterclockwise.

I believe that this is a general rule of direction and not a black and white thing. From my investigations it seems that there is a general trend of the soul to move in order but not exact enough to be able to predict the sign that one will be born into in the next life.

Another thing he said was that a person’s death date will determine a future birth date. From my own research I found this sometimes happens but generally does not. Either he is mistaken or Alice A. Bailey left something out in the transmission. It is quite possible that the time of death will indicate a future life, but not necessarily the one in the immediate future. Similarly as we pass through the zodiac we will often take a break from our next hurdle and choose a natal chart to our liking.

Our free will is always a factor with any event that occurs to us.

Now David Wilcock, who claims to be Edgar Cayce, may be one of the few out there making a claim who is correct. There are some interesting similarities between the two.

He was born in the same sign as Cayce which would indicate unfinished work in that sign from the last life. On the other hand, his birth direction was clockwise indicating he is not yet a high initiate.

Cayce died on Jan 3 1945 and Wilcock was born March 8, 1973 so there is no relation here between the death and birth day.

It would be nice if we could use astrology for concrete purposes and as a means for exact predictions, but such is not he case. Astrology deals with energies and their influences and because each of us handles energies differently exactness in prediction or the discovery of past lives cannot be something on which we can depend.

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July 4, 2015

Madam Blavatsky

Good article. (LINK) The reader may find it of interest that DK acknowledged that Blavatsky fabricated most of the Mahatma letters. She still had some of the charlatan in her left over from the life as Count Cagliostro. I have read several accounts of her life and there was definitely some supernatural events involved with her but I think she felt that she had to add some magical tricks now and then to keep the work growing. Unfortunately, this causes many impartial observers and critics to discount all that she did.

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Destroying the Soul

I finally have a moment to respond to Ken who wrote:

First, let me remind you about the “firstfruits” of the harvest. Yahweh Elohim is following a very specific plan, in which a select few are harvested FIRST, and that harvest is small, only the Elect. The rest of mankind will be harvested and gathered according to the timetable set forth by The Father, and that harvest will bring forth ALL who are Children of Elohim, to Eternal Life. Then on the other hand, those who have proven they are children of Satan, they will be likened to Judas, sons of perdition/destruction (John 17:12), and they will be LOST. If the percentage holds true as patterned by Judas, then about 1/12th of mankind will have their bodies and souls DESTROYED by the One who is able to destroy in the Gehenna, and He should be feared:

I have to admit that this is not a typical fundamentalist interpretation of salvation percentages, but you definitely have a fundamentalist approach to seeing the scriptures as being free of error and needing a literal interpretation in most cases. I need to ask you some questions to clarify your belief. You say that you believe 11 out of 12 people will obtain eternal life.

So, do you believe that 11 out of 12 people who lived in the days of Jesus are now saved and enjoying heavenly bliss? If not when will this happen and how? Will the 11 out of 12 receive the same reward as you?

As evidence that we can be destroyed into oblivion you cite several scriptures, the most potent of which is:

Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in the Gehenna. Mt 10:28

So, does this mean we are in danger of being completely annihilated by our loving Father/Mother God?

First let us look at a couple other scriptures. Here is the basic idea repeated by Luke:

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God? But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. Luke 12:5-7

So, here we are told that none of us are forgotten before God, for we are worth many sparrows. This would include the worst of us. And what parent is there among us that would give up on his child, even when he makes a grievous error? Jesus said that God is an even more loving parent than we are.

This is evidenced by this scripture:

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Tim 2:3-4

So, then, it is the will of God that all be saved and if one believes that God has power to fulfill that which he wills then one must conclude that ALL will be saved and NONE will be annihilated.

Ken gives Judas as an example of one who will be destroyed, but of him it was written:

The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. Matt 26:24

Now if Judas did not exist before birth and is annihilated after death, then how could it be that it would have been good for him to not have been born? How can non existence after death be worse than non existence before birth???

Does not compute.

It is true that with a few failed entities will suffer destruction of, not only the physical but the other bodies used by the soul and they will return to the monad for recycling to get another chance in another system. Eventually, all will be saved, just as the scripture says,

Our initial; essence, the monad, is a part of God. To completely destroy us would mean that God is destroying himself and a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

God’s kingdom does stand and he nurtures all the lives that are a part of his eternal being.

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Diet of World’s Oldest Person

Susannah Mushatt Jones, the world’s oldest documented person at 116 puts her longevity down to eating bacon and eggs every morning for over a century.

A sign on her kitchen wall reads “Bacon makes everything better”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11721581/Worlds-oldest-person-116-eats-diet-of-bacon-and-eggs.html

July 8, 2015

More on Soul

Ken:

please answer this question. Do you believe the following statement:

LDS Apostle B. H. Roberts wrote, “Saddening as the thought may seem, the Church founded by the labors of Jesus and His Apostles was destroyed from the earth”

Do not agree. The church was not destroyed but hidden in the wilderness.

Rev 12:6 And the woman (the church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Roberts quote continued:

the Gospel was perverted; its ordinances were changed; its laws were transgressed;

Pretty much agree. Some Christian sects were much worse than others at altering things according to their desires.

Roberts:

its covenant was, on the part of man, broken;

Not sure which covenant he was talking about.

Roberts:

and the world was left to flounder in the darkness of a long period of apostasy from God… a universal apostasy from the Christian doctrine and the Christian Church took place”

Most of the world has been floundering in darkness, even when master teachers such as Jesus were here, but there have always been pockets of light upon the earth.

I asked:

Do you believe that at death we continue existence in a spirit world or do you think like the Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses that the soul sleeps at death and then will be brought back to life at the judgment to be either annihilated or given eternal life? If you do not think like them then how is your belief different?

Ken:

Yes, there are differences. For the unbelieving, at death, they know nothing, and they gain nothing, but for the righteous at death, that when they depart this fleshly life, they do have a gain in being WITH Messiah, and when He returns, He will bring them with Him.

Don’t see much difference here. Those churches think that the righteous will not seem to spend any time sleeping but will seem to instantly be with Jesus.

So, where are the faithful apostles of Jesus? Are they sleeping or are they alive with Jesus? Are they with him in physical bodies or spiritual ones?

I asked::

How are the 11 out of 12 who are not saved yet going to obtain salvation on your eighth day? Is there any hope for Hitler?

Ken

Salvation is a matter of being saved FROM being a sinner, and yes, there is hope for Hitler on the 8th Great Day.

So, I take it that you believe, like the Jehovah Witnesses, that Hitler is in an unconscious sleep and will be reconstituted on your eighth day. When the pieces of him are put back together then what will he have to do to be saved? Just say, “I believe!” or something more?

6 million Jews may have a problem singing praises side by side with him.

Is there any book, teacher or spiritual writing available that represents your beliefs outside of the Bible?

Ken

No.

I would say that you have a problem then if you cannot find any teaching that is in harmony with you even if you search all of recoded history for thousands of years. After all the Bible is only one book containing only a few fragmented truths here and there and not presented with much clarity.

God is really falling down on the job if you and your brother are the only ones on the planet who are a source of the truth. Where is your Paul, your Moses, your Elijah, or even your Allan Cronshaw to help you get the message out?

Ken:

I have told you, the One True Church or Assembly was completely destroyed, not one Living Stone was left upon another, the MOON was turned to BLOOD as fierce wolves attacked, and DID NOT SPARE the Flock. Traditional/fundamental christianity is what rose up in the place of the One True Church, and you want to compare me to them? That really surprises me.

Your beliefs may be different, as hundreds of fundamentalists have different interpretations, but you are like them in that you accept the Bible as the only book you can trust and see it as without error. That is a fundamentalist approach. Herbert W. Armstrong also took a fundamentalist approach and came to different conclusions than others. Why would anyone think you are more correct in your interpretations than he was? He was at least believable enough to get a large following.

Ken:

Concerning 11 out of 12 who lived at the time of Yeshua? Yeshua stated that His generation would not fair too well in the judgment. So their percentages may not be as good as those who were never exposed to LIGHT, as His generation was. You see, for judgment to be true and fair, those being judged must FIRST be exposed to the Light, and for many, that will not happen until the 8th Great Day. But those who have been exposed to the Light, and reject it, will not fair well in the regeneration.

It sounds like in this generation just you, your brother and maybe a couple close associates are guaranteed salvation and the only hope for the rest is the vague eighth day of reconstitution you speak of, of which almost nothing is revealed.

How will the unwashed masses be saved on the eighth day and will they receive the same reward as you, who (as you believe) see and obey the light now?

Ken:

Finally, your take on 1 Tim 2:3-4 is misunderstood on your part. Paul is not saying “God’s” WILL is that all be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. The Greek word used for “will” is G2309, and Paul uses it here also:

2Cor 12:6 For though I would desire (G2309) to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but [now] I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me [to be], or [that] he heareth of me.

It is amazing that you hold the Bible in esteem above all other books but do not accept what it says. Let me repeat the scripture where you say it doesn’t say it is God’s will that all be saved:

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Tim 2:3-4

The words “will have” comes from Strongs G2309 (or the Greek THELŌ) as you say, but the first meaning given by Strongs is “to determine” and the first given by the Blue Letter Bible is “to will, have in mind, intend.”

The Concordant Version which gives us the most accurate literal translations reads thus:

“Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to a realization of the truth.”

Here is a couple other scriptures where it is used:

And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, (THELŌ) thou canst make me clean. And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; (THELŌ) be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. Mat 8:2-3

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, (THELŌ) but as thou wilt ((THELŌ, implied). Mat 26:39

The meaning of THELŌ can vary a bit with the context. In addition “to will, have in mind, intend” it can also mean to desire as you say, but there is not a lot of difference between one having power to fulfill desire or will. If God desires a thing then he also wills it and can make it happen. If you had the power and desired salvation for your child would you not make sure he achieved it?

Ken

Elohim can “desire” that all men be saved and that they come to a knowledge of the Truth, but does that mean that all men WOULD come to a knowledge of the Truth, and be saved?

So, then, you are saying that God has no power to fulfill his desire or will. That doesn’t sound like your normal thinking.

Ken:

Think along the lines of a loving father desiring his children to be saved from the evils of life and coming to know the right things to do. Does it mean that ALL of his children will do this just because he desires it?

But God has power to fulfill his will and has all eternity to do it. A child will always make the right choice given enough time and encouragement. It may take over 1000 lifetimes but we all will eventually get things right.

One reason you do not like the obvious interpretation of this scripture is because we would need reincarnation for it to be true.

Ken:

Your explanation of Judas having been better off to have never been born doesn’t make much sense, in light of 2 Pet 2:20-22, and in light of “the soul who sins shall die.”

There is nothing in that verse that contradicts anything I have said. If Judas did not exist before birth then why would it be worse for him to not exist after God destroys him into non existence??? You have not explained why non existence after death is worse than non existence before birth. Unfortunately, you cannot explain this under your belief system whereas it makes perfect sense using my teachings.

Ken:

Consider that Elohim does not DESIRE the death of anyone?

And where do you get this idea? God created this world and designed it to have life and death so it could be a great schoolhouse of learning for us. You seem to think that poor old God is some powerless victim with his hands tied.

Ken

Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

The scripture says that God breathed into Adam the breath of life and he became a living soul. When he quits breathing the soul, as defined by the Old Testament, dies. This happens to all of us regular mortals.

If we could live without error (sin) then we could defeat the last enemy, death, and our human souls could live as long as we want.

At the death of the human soul the person is not extinguished but continues life on other planes of existence.

I would say that you are the one who needs to reevaluate your thinking here as it runs contrary to scripture, reason and common sense.

July 9, 2015

The Last Enemy

Jody asks about this scripture:

Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother (Lazarus) shall rise again.

Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. John 11:23-26

He asks: “Why does it sound like he’s repeating himself?”

Actually, he is not for he is talking about belief in two different situations.

(1) A belief in Christ in a conscious state after death. This was the situation with Lazarus. He had been separated from his body for over three days, or dead in the normal sense, and in this spiritual state had a conscious belief that Christ had power over death.

So here Jesus was telling Martha that though Lazarus is dead he will be brought to life because he was in a believing state on the other side.

(2) A belief in Christ while yet living. He stated that this entails an acceptance of his words of life into our being. If we properly do this and live by them as he did then death can have no power over us as it had no power over him. At this point the last enemy is destroyed.

True death is more than a separation from the body, but a separation from the soul and spirit. The fact that we die physically against our will is a sign that we are subject to a degree of spiritual death. This spiritual death is overcome by the acceptance and incorporation of the “words of life” from both the inner and outer Christ. Since we do not have all the words of the outer Christ, the inner must be sought. When one truly hears, believes and assimilates the Word (words of Christ) which Is God then all things become possible.

This scripture says it well:

“Angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore, they speak the words of Christ. Wherefore, I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do.” II Nephi 32:3

Here the reference is to the inner Christ which is linked to the outer.

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.” John 8:51

Jody also asks:

If the soul is the reflection of the higher self would that “by your teachings” mean that the male energies are negative at the higher self and the female energies are positive at the higher self if you we are a reflection.

The relation of male to female is relative to the relationship. Male is always the positive/sending pole and female is always the negative/receiving one.

Because we receive from the Higher Self and are not polarized as sending to it then we are female to it whether we are in a male or female body. On the other hand, the Higher Self receives from the Monad so it is female in relation to that and the Monad would be in the male situation.

If you are in a male body and are taught by another male then in this relationship you are in the female polarity and the teacher in the male.

If one in a female body is teaching a class of mixed genders then she is male to the students and all students are female to her.

Our bodies are just one manifestation of male/female energy. The male body sends the seed and the female receives it. Understanding the teachings of the inner Christ on balancing these energies within us is one of the keys to overcoming death as mentioned previously.

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The Pluto Mission

After waiting all my life we finally have a picture of Pluto with some details. The great part is when the flyby happens next Tuesday (July 14) we will get 500 times the details as we have now. This nine year trip to Pluto is all for getting one day’s worth of good photos and data since the spacecraft is going too fast to orbit the planet.

We will have to wait longer than planned to find out what that bright spot is on Ceres as they had a glitch they had to fix in the software. It looks like they are good to go and we should have some better photos in a few weeks.

July 10, 2015

Recognizing Initiates

Jody asks:

How does one know what initiation one is on?

We’ve covered this somewhat in the past, but it is always a subject of interest when the topic is brought up.

DK talks about ceremonies of recognition of the various initiations so a casual reader may assume that each initiate knows where he is because of some supernatural occurrence. This is normally not so obvious as these recognitions often take place between lives or while the person is in the sleeping state.

It is important to understand that a degree of initiation is merely the recognition of an achievement of mastery over certain areas of life and experience. If a person achieves mastery in a certain life and receives the ceremony in between lives, then he was an initiate in that life before he received the acknowledgment. In the true sense, once become an initiate when he achieves the inner power of control.

The journey to mastery and full entrance into the Kingdom of God consists of preparation and five initiations, or steps that assume control and remove limitations for the seeker.

In the preparatory step the seeker is considered an aspirant. The aspirant is one who is no longer satisfied receiving all his thinking and approval from the beast and starts thinking on his own. He begins to use his own mind and heart as he seeks for answers.

The first degree initiate is one who has achieved mastery over physical desires and can resist the pull of matter and materialism.

The churches prepare seekers for this mastery by dictating to them rules about sex and what they should eat and drink and where they should donate money. Right or wrong the rules help the seeker to develop self discipline which is essential to achieve the first major step.

Here are signs that the seeker has achieved the first degree.

The Appetites

When under the belief that a certain diet or restriction was necessary he or she is able to adhere to it without deviation. No one can talk him into breaking rules that he has accepted into his life.

For instance, if the seeker was in a belief system where being a vegetarian was considered essential then he demonstrated power to be a strict vegetarian so long as he accepted that belief.

If he was a Mormon then he demonstrated power to completely abstain from smoking, alcohol, tea and coffee while he accepted that system.

If he sees he needs to go on a certain diet for his health then he has complete power to go on that diet and adhere to it to his satisfaction.

If he decides to go on fast from food or water then he will be able to fast as planned for the predetermined period. A ten day fast without food will be no problem for him as long as some physical deficiency does not interfere.

If the seeker accepts a certain belief system concerning sex then he is able to adhere to it. If he believes sex outside of marriage or adultery is wrong then he simply will not do it. He will be able to resist the temptation.

The seeker looks at sex, decides which activity is correct and which is not, and then has the power to be true to that belief.

Money

The first degree initiate has power to channel his money and resources to what he sees as his highest good. This “highest good” goes beyond service to self. If he has more than he needs for his essentials he seeks to do something with his resources that will benefit others.

He thus seeks to initiate good causes on the physical plane.

Overall first degree initiates and higher are very conscientious about their health, are faithful to their sexual beliefs and are willing to share in both poverty and wealth.

Now one may look at certain initiates and wonder how these guidelines apply to them.

For instance, Winston Churchill was definitely an initiate, but he was overweight, drank quite a bit of alcohol and smoked cigars. How did he demonstrate control?

Answer: All his eating and drinking was accepted by his belief system. He controlled his appetites to the extent he deemed necessary to have good health and lived to the age of 90 when the average lifespan for his generation was below 65.

If one studies his history he sees that Churchill was sable to put his appetites under control when it was necessary.

So how about JFK and other apparent initiates who seemed to have no control over their sex lives?

It is true that some initiates get caught up in deviating from sexual norms. If the person is a first degree initiate then the source of the problem will be illusion rather than lack of control. The pull of sex is powerful and many first and second degree initiates get caught up in a belief system that gives them internal permission to go outside the normal standards.

In the case of JFK – he was taught about sex by his father and accepted his father’s philosophy on relationships above that of the church and thus was caught up in an illusion on this matter. There were times in his life where he demonstrated great self control over he physical side of life.

Overall the first degree initiate (and higher) has demonstrated control over appetite, sex and money, but under the guidelines of his belief system.

July 11, 2015

Coming out of the Wilderness

Ruth:

Or is the church coming out of “hiding” with your principles and teachings? Please clarify this for me.

We are coming out of hiding………

First it is important to realize what the true church is. The true church is not an organization, a dogma or a certain set of rules. The true church has always been composed of those people residing on the earth who have some degree of communion with the inner Christ, have a Christ-like love for their fellow men and women and seek to fulfill a perceived aspect of the Will of God. In the scriptures these people are called the pure in heart.

During times that these spiritual people are openly gathered in any significant degree the church is considered as being out of the wilderness. If gathering is not possible or too dangerous then the church is considered as being in the wilderness.

The internet is a medium that allows many to gather out of the wilderness to a degree. They are not brought physically together but are brought together so they can communicate. This is a productive first step that may lead to a complete coming out of the wilderness for the church.

July 11, 2015

The Lost Sheep

Ken:

Yeshua would bring forth a 2nd Witness to Testify concerning the One True Gospel. Demons KNOW and understand WE are COMING, and this is WHY they have raised up counterfeits such as the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses who claim to be the True Witness. You are just an offshoot of that, and you would do well to consider what we say.

The problem is that we have considered what you say and you not only teach contrary to the scriptures, but you make no sense.

According to you, for almost two thousand years God has been so powerless that only you and your brother (and maybe a couple family members) have seen the light for over a 1000 years. That is an example of glamour if I ever heard one and I would strongly suspect that the glamour is so strong that you two see yourselves connected with the two witnesses from the Book of Revelation. Am I right on this?

The Mormons make a much better case that they are a second witness for Christ and their argument has been strong enough to convince over 15,000,000 people. Even so, there are plenty of flaws in their doctrines.

You have been adamant that the scriptures do not say what they say. For instance Paul plainly wrote:

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I Tim 2:3-4

The words “will have” comes from the Greek THELŌ but the first meaning given by Strongs is “to determine” and the first given by the Blue Letter Bible is “to will, have in mind, intend.”

The Concordant Version which gives us the most accurate literal translations reads thus:

“Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to a realization of the truth.”

I do not think you have convinced anyone here that the scripture says anything different than it plainly states which is that God wills, determines or desires that all eventually be saved and that he has power to accomplish that which he wills.

This is clearly related in the parable of the lost sheep:

Matt 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Matt 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

Matt 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

Matt 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

So here we have it again. It is not within the will of God that even one of his children should perish. When we go astray God himself will go “into the mountains” and the ends of the earth and time to help us and bring us back to our senses so we can embrace the light. He is committed to work with us “until the last weary pilgrim finds his way home.”

Now let us shift away from the scriptures to common sense.

Jesus says that God is a better and more loving parent than earthly parents.

What earthly parent that has any love in his soul does not care for all his children no matter what mistakes they make? What loving parent would not go to the mountains, to the desserts, to the cities to find his lost child who is in great danger?

If we are good enough to make such an effort, then, according to the words of Jesus, God will be better than us and go further than us to save his children.

We mortals are often unable to fulfill our will, but not so with God. If God wants to save all his children then he has the power to do it and will do it.

Because we have free will he has to work with that will but sooner or later the prodigal son gets tired of eating food with the hogs and desires to return to his fathers house where even the lowest of servants fare much better. When he returns he finds that the father has been waiting for him and will restore him to his rightful place as his son.

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Making Sense of Truth

For one who puts the Bible on such a pedestal, making it the only book you can trust, you seem to not go much by what it actually says.

For instance, you say that the two witnesses

“are two GROUPS of Believers testifying to the Truth of the One True Gospel. The FIRST Witness testified two days ago (2000 years ago), and the SECOND Witness is close to giving It’s testimony in our day.”

Here is what is actually written about the two witnesses:

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

These verses make no sense when applying them to two groups existing 2000 years apart from each other. I could write 10,000 words explaining this but just these two examples:

First, it has them working together. You have them working 2000 years apart.

Secondly, all the people of the earth see their dead bodies lying in the streets of Jerusalem (together – not 2000 years apart).

Ken:

There are numerous Scriptures which show the wicked will be DESTROYED, and NOT saved

The destruction talked about is usually that of their physical bodies. Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that the consciousness of anyone will go into non-existence. We have physical bodies, astral bodies and mental bodies that are all subject to destruction of some kind if we are careless n enough.

The reason the fate of Judas was going to be worse than not being born is because he will still exist as an eternal being and his state after death would be worse than before birth.

You have no explanation that makes any sense as to why Jesus said this about Judas as (in your belief) non existence before birth would be the same (not worse) than non existence after death.

What you have done is merely read the Bible in the light of your own mind and come up with various interpretations, just like hundreds of other belief systems. Then you present them as true whether they make any sense or not just like the hundreds of other Christian sects. What makes you different from them?

Nothing.

On the other hand, this group is different in that we do not accept anything unless it makes sense and that applies to all things written in the Bible, Alice A. Bailey writings or anything else out there.

In the end – if a thing is true it will make sense.

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Okay, Ken, I think I have gone overboard in allowing you to have your say in a Bible direction that is of little interest to the group. I can easily counter anything you say and you, or most other Bible believers, can come up with some reason why you are right by either a literal or figurative application of the scriptures. This just illustrates why there are hundreds of different churches using the same Bible yet coming up with widely different doctrines. All proclaim, “But we are the ones going by what the scriptures really say…”

It is time to move on now and talk about teachings that involve principles that make sense and have applications along the path of liberation.

Since you do not believe in our concept of liberation you may find yourself in no man’s land here and attempt to revert back to converting us to something we left behind long ago. If we wanted that we would be watching The Good Time Gospel Hour.

At this time I advise the group to ignore you unless you are posting on topic. The current one is the initiations.

July 13, 2015

Initiation and Judgment

In attempting to give guidelines so readers can have a basis of figuring out where they are upon the path imperfection is to be expected. This is a subject where a black and white reading of such guidelines will not work.

Now if a representative of the beast had an initiation program then black and white steps would be the norm. Because initiates are mostly free from the beast they are able to make judgments internally about their next step and what control is necessary to accomplish it.

When I was under some control of the beast (up to age 33) within the Mormon Church I had to go to the Bishop once a year to answer questions to determine my worthiness to enter the Temple. The questions asked demanded a black and white yes or no answer such as:

Do you pay your tithing (10% of your income to the church)?
Have you been obedient to the Word of Wisdom. That is did you smoke, drink any alcohol tea or coffee?
Have you had any sexual transgressions?
Do you sustain the leaders of the church?

The list goes on but this gives one the general idea. The answers are all yes or no? While I supported the church I was always able to give the expected answers and was deemed worthy to enter the temple.

Later, after 1978, when I freed myself from the last vestiges of the beast my path was no longer influenced by outside authority, but an inside one. When I became totally dependent on the God within the black and white “yes or no” often did not apply.

Now let us examine how my approach is different.

Do you pay your tithing?

I do not pay any money to any church, but I do give all that is feasible to the goal of assisting my brothers and sisters in their journey home. I now feel much more satisfaction about how my substance is used.

Have you been obedient to the Word of Wisdom?

That is did you smoke, drink any alcohol tea or coffee?

When I supported the church I completely abstained from these things. When I was left to my own judgment I reassessed everything. I decided that coffee, tea and some alcohol had some benefits and could be used wisely according to the circumstance. Smoking seemed to cause much more harm than good so I abstained from that, though I wouldn’t be beyond smoking a cigar on a special occasion.

Have you had any sexual transgressions?

When I was in the church sex outside of marriage was a big sin, but after leaving it the decision was completely in my hands so I looked at the principles involved concerning sex. I therefore decided to live for a time with my current wife before we had a legal marriage because we already were living by the principles of marriage. We were committed to each other and neither of us were violating a commitment to anyone else. The legal piece of paper made no difference in our relationship.

Do you sustain the leaders of the church?

I currently sustain any leader who is doing what I consider to be the right thing and oppose those who in any way lead us in a direction that will imprison the souls of mankind.

Now do not assume that I was under a total black and white control while in the church. I always followed the inner voice above the outer. Going through a period of church membership was something necessary for my total learning experience in this life. It brought me to a total realization as to exactly what the beast was.

These examples from my own life illustrate the different approaches a disciple will take under two different circumstances, and when freed completely from the outer voice how one then will use his own judgment as to what to eat or drink etc.

The general guideline for the first degree initiate is this. The seeker will demonstrate control to his own soul over his appetites, sex and money. His soul is the judge of the matter, not you or I. This is why non initiates have difficulty in recognizing initiates, but initiates can generally recognize each other because they have a degree of soul contact.

July 14, 2015

The Pluto Flyby

The New Horizons Spacecraft has finally flown by Pluto at a distance of 7800 miles. The first images will be in the hands of NASA around 7 PM tonight MDT. They did release a new image as the craft approached from about twice the distance of the moon from the earth. The telescopic lens brings it up closer than it would normally appear from that distance. Check it out here:

LINK

It will be interesting to see close up images of Pluto and its moons in the next couple days. The craft is operating on a plutonium battery producing just 220 watts and will take 16 months to send back all the data it has gathered during the few minutes of the flyby. The transmission rate is slower than the old telephone modems.

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The Sword of Excalibur

JJ [archives] wrote:

“Joseph was told in a revelation to “take the sword of my Spirit which I shall pour out upon you”. (D&C 27:18) This is the true sword of Excalibur which is given out from time to time.” – https://freeread.com/archives/707.html

Dan:

So the “true sword of Excalibur” is the “sword of my [God’s] spirit”? What does that mean?

It is written that, “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh…” Genesis 6:3

The fullness of the power of the spirit is not always available but a full connection is possible during certain cycles that are in the hands of the Great Ones.

When a full connection is made by the uniting of heaven and earth through contact made with us mere mortals then Excalibur rises again from the waters that hide the true spirit. When this occurs, those with pure intent can take the sword of the Spirit and prevail over the opposing forces of materialism and carnal desire.

Windows have opened and closed in the past. I am waiting for another opening.

This goes beyond normal soul contact which is always available.

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Problems of the Second Degree

The First Degree initiate has proven to his soul (who cares what anyone else thinks) that the pull of the forces of matter will not negatively impact him as he journeys on the path if return.

Next he must face the even larger problem of neutralizing the distractions caused by the emotional body. I said that the steps of showing the mastery over the physical are not black and white… Well, the criteria for accomplishing the second initiation is even much less black and white. The illusions and glamours keeping the pilgrim from seeing the necessary steps to be taken for the mastering of the emotional body are great indeed.

From one point of view this is the most difficult of initiations. It is not because the steps to be taken are so strenuous and hard, but because the steps are so difficult to see and accept.

One of the major problems with the mastery of the emotional nature is the influence of glamours which affects the ego.

This is illustrated in the parable of Jesus about the higher and lower rooms:

When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.

But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.

For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. Luke 14:8-11

Our emotional body is hell bent on convincing the ego that it is the center of the universe and that it is at a higher station or place on the path than it actually is. When the seeker is thus given the choice of seeing himself as in a higher or lower state his emotional self will push him to select the higher, just as did the guy in the parable.

Eventually, the day of reckoning comes where the truth becomes known and, if one discovers that he overestimated his status, he will find himself somewhat humiliated.

If he is humble and willing to accept himself, no matter where he may be then he will not be disappointed, but may wind up pleasantly surprised when his soul reveals that he is at a higher station than he thought.

Understanding the humility of taking the “lowest room” is itself beset with the glamour of false humility. Some, who see humility as a great virtue, will go out of their way to project it in a black and white manner, always proclaiming themselves to be incompetent, or not as good as others, or playing the martyr. This glamour fools some into thinking the guy is really humble, but instead this glamour feeds he ego because the emotional body feels it is really taking the “highest room” by creating this artificial humility.

Real humility does not feed the ego or seek for praise from anyone. Neither does real humility discount one’s real talents and abilities. DK basically says that real humility is recognizing your true place on the path and acting accordingly. He uses these words:

humility must always accompany a spiritual self-respect which forbids a disciple to stand anywhere upon the Path, except in his rightful place.

The problem is that the rightful place is sometimes difficult to see. If one does not know it then the phrase “known abilities” would apply.

Here are a few more of his words:

(Humility) equips its possessor with a balanced point of view as to himself, his responsibilities and his life work. This, when present, will enable him to view himself dispassionately and his presented opportunities with equal dispassion.

True humility is based on fact, on vision and on time pressures … I would remind you that there must always be humility in the presence of true vision.

He needs also to cultivate that true humility which will force him to give all he has in selfless service, and then to forget that he has thus given of himself. He must have no thought of himself as a factor in the case. Only when detachment and humility are present can a disciple really serve. Cultivate, therefore, these qualities and continue the giving of yourself in service.

Glamours are distortions of reality filtered through the emotional body. The fogs they create that prevent true vision can only be lifted through true humility with the seeker making a great effort to see things as they really are.

In addition to false humility common glamours that need to be overcome are.

The glamour of the place on the path. This causes the seeker to take the higher room, as in the parable. This is a very common one for beginners. Many with this glamour will be found proclaiming themselves to having lived famous past lives which are figments of their imagination.

The glamour of magnified self-importance. Some feel that God or the Hierarchy is depending on them and not much can be accomplished without them.

The glamour of the watcher. This person feels superior enough to be the watcher for iniquity in the group and sees it as his mission to reveal the flaws of others while not understanding his own.

The glamour of spiritual dominance or control over others. This person seeks to associate with weaker minds than himself so he can retain an air of superiority. This will cause him to dismiss someone who can truly assist him.

The glamour of devotion. This leads the seeker in the opposite direction in that he is so devoted to his teacher, teaching, belief or thoughtform that he looks neither to the left or the right to see the full reality present.

The glamour of failure. This person may claim to believe in the eventual triumph of good, but in the short run he always anticipates lots of problems, and opposition that will produce failure. Amazingly, he achieves the failure he sees coming.

The glamour of the victim. This is similar to the previous one but with a twist. He thinks he can’t succeed because people are out to get him or do not treat him fairly.

The glamour of personality. This person is impressed by teachers more because of the power of their personality than by their actual words and works – the two witnesses. He is likely to say something like, “I looked into his eyes and I just knew he was a man of God.” He will praise his teacher, priest, reverend or prophet more for being a wonderful personality than for any truth he has received.

The glamour of desire. He judges truth by what he desires it to be rather than what he sees it to be.

These are just a few of the popular glamours out of hundreds that could be named. The task of finding them in ourselves and then dispelling them is a Herculean task indeed.

July 15, 2015

Signs of the Second Initiation

The First Initiation is sometimes called “the birth of the Christ in the Heart” and it corresponds to the birth of Jesus. Hundreds of lifetimes pass before this is achieved.

The Second Initiation corresponds to the baptism at around the age of 30. The third corresponds to the transfiguration and the fourth to the experience in the garden and the crucifixion. Notice that once initiation has begun that the greatest distance by far in time is between the first and the second. Even so, it is with disciples, because the second is so difficult to pass because of the upside down vision and reasoning of the emotional body.

Polarizing oneself in the mind yet being detached from the emotions, while still allowing oneself to feel all there is to feel and allowing the emotional body to live freely, is a difficult accomplishment indeed.

Here are signs that the disciple has achieved or nearly achieved the Second Initiation.

(1) First and foremost he (or she) will not take offense when no offense is intended.

The seeker will find that many who are assumed to be masters or have achieved some type of liberation and display a lot of control over the physical side (maybe passed the First Initiation) will just go to pieces when challenged or criticized.

To one who understands the steps of progression this is like the guy is waving is hands and saying, “Hey, guys, I’m not at the Second Degree yet!”

(2) His peace will still be in place when offense is intended. He will register the offense as intentional and deal with it from a mental level, only attempting to correct, not to hurt or insult. Personal attacks using words like stupid, hypocrite, liar etc will be avoided if at all possible.

Someone can insult him by shouting in his face and he can politely answer back with a smile. (This will often inflame the guy even more).

(3) Harmlessness. He will seek to do no harm to others, either physically or emotionally. He will attempt to see the Christ in even the worst of those he encounters.

(4) What he accepts as truth will be decided by reason and soul perception, not emotional sound bytes. He will always look at the underlying truth behind emotionally charged words, actions and events.

“If the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit” would not have much effect on the initiate of the second degree. Neither would merely stating “hope and change” over and over.

(5) He has neutralized and overcome the martyr complex.

Life is often tough for the would be initiate and the temptation is great to see himself as a victim of all kinds of things such as:

(A) Ill Health. It may seem that he has been singled out to suffer while others less worthy get a pass.

(B) Attacks or bad treatment from family, friends and associates. It seems that others are treated much better than he is.

The second degree initiate sees beyond all these things and looks at the synthetic whole. He realizes that he is the prime creator of his own reality and overall life. He sees that through numerous incarnations life treats him as fairly as anyone else. He assumes control over that which he can change and accepts without complaint that which he cannot change.

Example: If his boss does not promote him when he knows he deserves it, and there is nothing he can do to change his mind, he will either accept the situation or seek other employment. He will not go through the “poor me” experience for he sees himself as in charge of his overall life.

(6) He will react pleasantly to criticism whether it be fair or unfair. Sometimes a totally outrageous criticism may require a strong emotional response, but this will be decided by the mind and the reaction will be harmless in intent.

(7) The ego will be under control and the seeker will not be adversely affected by glamours, some of which were discussed previously.

This power is difficult to detect by observers or the seeker himself because glamours are so numerous and often very subtle and difficult to see. Only the powers of the soul can rightly judge the disciple to be free of their influence.

(8) Strong soul contact. The seeker will rely on the soul over the personality and trust its guidance as he journeys through life. He knows the difference between communication with the soul and impressions from his emotional self. Emotional influence comes under the full power of the mind and soul.

That gives us a few clues as to this important step. Even so, only those who are ready will see them accurately.

He who guards his words, and who only speaks with altruistic purpose, in order to carry the energy of Love through the medium of the tongue, is one who is mastering rapidly the initial steps to be taken in preparation for initiation. Speech is the most occult manifestation in existence; it is the means of creation and the vehicle for force. In the reservation of words, esoterically understood, lies the conservation of force; in the utilisation of words, justly chosen and spoken, lies the distribution of the love force of the solar system,—that force which preserves, strengthens, and stimulates. DK

Initiation Human and Solar, Pg 74

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Ruth:

You can curse as much as you want …………………………….as long as there is no negative energy behind the words imo……….

Swearing may have it’s place and there are times it may even add power to your words but most of the time it will represent the scattering of force under the direction of the emotional body, rather than mind. In these cases where the emotions tell you to @##$%%^ – instead go in the zone ++++++++. This can be done without suppressing any emotions of grievance.

I have to admit though that when I drop an anvil on my toe I may let out a few choice words.

July 17, 2015

Historical Hindsight

Many mistakes are made when we try and reverse engineer history. Many historians write as if the problems of World War II would have been solved if we had just taken out Hitler before the war. On hindsight almost everything thinks that would have been a good idea.

Let us suppose for a moment that Churchill had been in power instead of Chamberlain and decided to do just that. What would have been the probable outcome? Few have considered this but here is the way I see it.

First of all, it would have been a very unpopular move and Churchill would have been demonized by the media, his political opposition and many countries of the world, even if FDR supported the move.

Invading Germany, even before Hitler completed his war machine, would have been very expensive and there would have been many additional complaints about the money spent.

Now, let us suppose the invasion was successful. Churchill won the combat war and killed Hitler. What next?

He had to keep the peace, install a new government and assist the people in a transition back to normal democracy.

So… Would all the faithful Nazis have just accepted the defeat and rolled over?

Not hardly. The Nazi’s were fierce fighters and smart and would have resisted in any way possible. They were not dumb enough to go on suicide missions but they would have created bombs, poison gas or whatever was at their disposal to attack the occupying government and sabotage them.

As the heat was turned up on them the worst of the bunch would have fled to Fascists Italy under the friendly Mussolini. After this here is what may have happened.

Churchill undergoes even more criticism after several years of occupation. It appears that they can never create a successful transition.

Churchill sees the problems and tells the people that it is important that they stay the course and make sure the provisional government is kept free from the power of the Nazis and Mussolini. England and America must do what it takes to keep the peace until stability evolves.

Unfortunately, Churchill is voted out of power and Chamberlain takes the reigns under the slogan “peace in our time” along with the mantra of “hope and change.”

Chamberlain withdraws all the troops from Germany telling the Germans that it is time for them to stand on their own and resist the Nazis and fascists.

Because the withdrawal was announced in advance the Nazis saw their day of opportunity and organized to take advantage of this time. They took with them all the forces possible from Italy and united with Nazis still in Germany, and piece by piece, started again to occupy Germany.

Many saw the error of their ways, but still Chamberlain did nothing in hopes that the problem would just go away.

It did not.

Eventually another election was held and Chamberlain was replaced with someone with a bit of common sense. With the support of the people and with aid from the United States they were able to drive out the Nazis and over the next eight years stabilize the government of Germany.

The end result?

There were many problems to handle but World War II was avoided and 6,000,000 Jews were not exterminated. The huge advantage to the world was that the evil genius Hitler was neutralized. This did not eliminate all problems but it eliminated the main problem.

Even so, Saddam Hussein and his sons were more like Hitler than any dictator since him and to think that if he were left in power that everything would have just glided along as normal is insane. Bush eliminated this threat and set everything in place to stabilize the region. Unfortunately, much of it was undone by Obama. Let us hope the next president can help to steer the Middle East back to a stable course.

Not all the plans of the Brotherhood of Light are successful for they have to depend of the free will of the human race to carry them out.

After the war in Iraq began I warned a number of times that the forces of darkness would do everything in their power to prevent a peaceful democracy from developing there. We now see that this has happened and we are at a point where Iraq could swing toward the dark or the light depending on what happens in the next U.S. election as well as the world economy.

“Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth.”

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Jim gives a quote from a nebulous Texas newspaper stating that George W Bush apologized for the war in Iraq. This is obviously a made up quote for the following reasons:

(1) No specific reference is cited

(2) None of the major media picked it. It would have been a big story and those who hated Bush would have gleefully repeated it if the quotes were verifiable.

(3) There are only a few fringe far left sites quoting this.

(4) The quote is refuted by Bush himself who says he stands by his decision to invade Iraq. These quotes (made after the false quote) are from CBS News and the New York Times who generally check the source of their quotes.

Mr. Bush also said he has no regrets about going to war.

“No, I think it was the right decision,” President Bush said. “My regret is that — a violent group of people have risen up again. This is ‘Al Qaeda plus.’ I put it in the book, they need to be defeated. And I hope we do. It’s – I hope that the strategy. CBS News interview LINK

Unlike His Brother, George W. Bush Stands by His Call to Invade Iraq

New York Times LINK

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