Posted Aug 5, 2010
Concerning the divine possession John C writes;
I know we have been over and over this before, but your explanation has never satisfied me. From your explanations, I keep getting this picture of a Russian doll with two or more dolls nested inside.
JJ
The Russian dolls are all made of physical mater. What I have presented involves several grades of matter.
Consider this. You are presently composed of four bodies of form now and even more if we consider the formless worlds.
(1) You have a physical body
(2) Next within this is the etheric double.
(3) Occupying this same space is your astral body.
(4) Still in this same space is your mental body.
These are not like Russian dolls for such dolls occupy different space.
Matter, which is higher than the physical is not nearly as dense. Thus two mental bodies in one physical one does not cause any crowding at all.
John quotes me:
“Also Jesus tells us that his Father was actually in him:
“John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”
John C
I ran across this scripture in Matthew the other day.
Matt 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Then, we have this one in John:
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
JJ
The scriptures you quote do not deal with divine possession but a sharing of consciousness as happened through the Oneness Principle. This is illustrated in the scripture Dan quoted:
I Cor 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
I Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
When you stub your toe and suffer pain all parts of the body feel it together. There is a sharing because not only is the toe in the body, but also the hand, the brain, the feet, etc.
The Spiritual internet is like the soul of humanity and all who are tuned in are part of the body.
This oneness and sharing can be experienced by an unlimited number of entities. When the Oneness Principle is accessed each life is a part of the whole and is tuned into a greater life. One could say they are in and through and with each other.
A divine possession is a totally different matter. They also have a sharing but this sharing is brought down to the physical body of the disciple in that two entities share the same physical body for the purpose of creating a connecting link between heaven and earth, between the kingdom of humanity and the kingdom ruled over by Christ and his Father.
Let me give an imperfect analogy to paint a picture.
The Oneness Principle works like the Internet. Even though we are all in different locations we are like one great life where the parts you and me can share anything we want. I am in Ruth and Dan and John and they are in me as far as sharing is concerned.
A divine possession is more like two processors occupying one computer. These processors not only have access to the internet but also to each other and working together they decide on various courses of action that the computer as a whole will take.
Jesus illustrated the difference between the mere sharing of consciousness and the actual presence of two entities when he answered his critics.
John 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
John 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
He had already said his Father was in him. Now he said he is not alone, but that if they understood they would realize that not one, gut two men were bearing witness.
Now through the Oneness Principle he could have said he had many witnesses, but he was not referring to that. Instead he was referring to one other entity that actually dwelt within him.
These two witnesses were the two entities within the body of Jesus.
John writes:
I’m not questioning the experience. I want to know HOW.
JJ
Let me add this. There is a link between the mental bodies of the disciple and the Master. The astral body of the disciple is affected but not directly involved. This links the consciousness of the two and the disciple shares the higher vibration of the Master which is overwhelming at first but, after adjusted to, the higher sense of purpose and direction is then shared.
As for the technical details of how two mental bodies occupy one physical all I can say is that mental matter is more refined and the higher up the scale you go the more matter can occupy a certain amount of space.
Copyright 2010 by J J Dewey