April 27, 2013
Dropping the Ball
Stephen references a quote from the archives. From the quote … it seems that when the Masters withdraw from a disciple because he has dropped an opportunity, does that mean the disciple is written off for the rest of this lifetime, or is the disciple given an opportunity to recover the situation or at least take up a new challenge that may present itself?
JJ First, let me compliment Ruth for her finding quotes that expand on the subject at hand. She digs up a lot of things I had forgotten I even said.
I can almost hear you thinking that this sounds kind of harsh. It seems the disciple makes one mistake and then he is just dropped without a chance to redeem himself.
This isn’t quite the way it works. The truth is that any time a disciple becomes truly useful the Master would have no problem in using him. But the problem of his lack of use isn’t because he is dropped and not given another chance. Instead, it is because he himself has dropped the ball, dug himself into a hole and cannot climb out in this life.
Let me give you a comparable example of another situation.
Phil, a quarterback, is a rising star in high school football. He’s targeted by recruiters from Oklahoma and invited to join the team when he starts college. Meanwhile that summer he has a change of interests and starts a band and devotes most of his energies to music. Then when football practice starts the coach notices that Phil has lost his edge. He investigates and discovers that Phil’s band is too much of a distraction. He tells Phil, “Look, if you’re going to play ball here we need you to give all your concentration possible on the game. You’re going to have to choose between your band or football.”
But Phil is stubborn and says, “I can do both.”
The coach says, “Not so, my friend. The reality is that you are not doing both. You’ve lost your edge in football and without your full concentration you are no use to us. You need to make a choice.”
“I’m not giving up the band,”he says.
“Then we’ll have to drop you from the team,” says the coach.
After this, there is a space of time where Phil could rededicate himself toward football and possibly rejoin the team but after time passes and his attention is centered on the band he not only loses interest in playing football but loses his ability to the extent that it becomes almost impossible to retrieve his full talent of the past.
The coach knows this and writes him off, not because he is cold, but because he realizes the guy is just not going to be a usable quarterback in this life.
This illustrates what happens to many disciples. One’s soul will speak to him and point him toward a task of service. At first he is interested but because of the difficulty of the path he loses interest and puts his attention on other things. Then, after a period of time the Masters will see that the guy just doesn’t have the proper focus to be usable in this life and they move on to greener fields.
After a soul task is cast aside for a space of time the aspiring disciple will rarely return to it as his consciousness is no longer there in this life.
The bottom line is this. The soul does not cut itself off from us. We are the ones who walk away and do not return. When this happens the only solution is to be born again in another life to take another step toward the kingdom of God.
April 28, 2013
Questions to JJ – re: Ancient of Days
That’s about a book’s worth of questions Ruth asked and I cannot answer them all but will touch on some of them.
You ask: You teach that the Ancient of Days incarnated into animal man to stimulate self consciousness into the animal man 18 million years ago.
Why did it take 5 million years to set up Shamballa and stimulate animal man? Was there some war going on in that time?
JJ DK briefly touched on the fall of Lucifer stating that there has not always been peace among the members of Shamballa. He said:
Again, in the council chamber of the Most High, there has not always been peace and understanding, but at times, war and disruption; this is made abundantly clear by several of the stories in the Old Testament. Symbolically speaking, some of the sons of God fell from their high estate, led, at one time, by “Lucifer, Son of the Morning”. This “fall of the angels” was a tremendous event in the history of our planet, but was nevertheless only a passing and interesting phenomenon in the history of the solar system, and a trifling incident in the affairs of the seven constellations, of which our solar system is but one. “Esoteric Psychology,” Vol 1, pages 394-5
I would suppose that this event took place before the first self conscious human.
Before the manifestation of the human kingdom there was a lot of preparations to be made. The higher lives not only work with humans but all the kingdoms – the mineral, the vegetable and the animal. A number of higher lives are dedicated to assisting these kingdoms in their advancement as well as conditioning them to serve the human kingdom.
Before humanity could manifest they had to build Shamballa which was no small task. Then they had to harmonize with the spirit of the earth itself and adjust all vibration to receive from the Solar Logos and commune with the Seven Sacred planetary Logoi.
Ruth: Or did it take 5 millions years to “plant” the seeds of animal man and then wait for them to grow up a bit?
JJ They watched humanity to determine how they could assist them and Sanat determined that their progress was painfully slow and decided to help by stimulating their minds by incarnating among them. This was risky and contrary to normal protocol. We still do not know for sure if the gamble will pay off with us blowing ourselves out of existence or a glorious end. The odds are in our favor but disciples must do their part.
Ruth (But aren’t these first “seeds” the Jewish Laggards, or were they already here doing time?) The Jewish Laggards are originally from the Venus chain?
JJ No. The Jews came from a previous solar system and some of them were here before Shamballa.
Ruth: Or did Sanat come to Earth because the Jewish Laggards from the previous solar universe or moon chain want to rule the animal man developing on Earth?
JJ He came here to assist all lives reach their destiny.
Ruth: Who then, is the (Lucifer) Angel that Fell into matter, if not the Ancient of Days? Was it one of the Moon chain souls? Buddha was the highest light from the moon, yet the Moon chain failed.
JJ The Lucifer who fell was one of the Kumaras from Venus who came here with Sanat Kumura.
Ruth: Did the Ancient of Days have to incarnate into animal man because one of his group of ancient Lucifers rebelled, and reincarnated into animal man before the Ancient of Days?
JJ He incarnated because the progress of the animal men was progressing to slowly.
Ruth There seems to be a missing part of this puzzle from the angle that I am looking at.
JJ There are lots of things not yet revealed. Hopefully we can get DK to elaborate more when he speaks in 2025 and beyond.
Ruth So it seems that the Moon chain failed, which must of been part of the Venus link, and the Jewish laggards which didn’t pass the last solar Universe initiations had to start again on the Moon chain, but this experiment went haywire and the plug was pulled, so then these souls incarnated onto Earth into animals?
JJ I don’t think the Jews had anything to do with the moon chain. Animals from the moon chain incarnated as animals and humans later incarnated as humans.
Here’s a couple statements DK made on the moon:
“a large number of the present more advanced human beings came into incarnation in the middle of the Atlantean root-race.” Initiation, Human and Solar Pg 45
“As stated in various occult books, many of the present advanced humanity individualized on the moon chain, and only took physical bodies in the earth chain during the fourth root-race (Atlantis) , thus escaping incarnation during the first three rounds, and the first two races of the fourth round.” Treatise on Cosmic Fire Pg 364-5
Apr 29, 2013
Re: Questions to JJ – re: Ancient of Days
Ruth: Why wasn’t there right Master relations in the Council Most High to begin with, if they expect us humans to have right human relations?
JJ The key is to understand that good and evil on a lower level is much different than on a higher level.
A good in the eyes of a lion is to eat a human if he crosses his path. In the human kingdom eating a human is considered a great evil.
Now let us look at the human kingdom itself as it has progressed. A couple thousand years ago it was considered good to possess a lot of slaves and use them to your advantage.
Today this would be considered a great evil. What has happened is that which was evil has been moved up a couple notches. There is still slavery today, but it is not so obvious.
The slavery today is that the average taxpayer pays over 50% of his income to Big Brother and he is saddled with many unnecessary laws, rules and regulations.
The good and evil of freedom and slavery is still with us but has moved to a higher level.
Even so it is with the Masters and higher lives.
What is right human relations to them is different than it is to us. Just as we are attempting to move the good and evil of our relationships up a notch so are other lives up the chain. But the problems they have in relationships are much different than ours and the average human would have no idea as to how to deal with or understand that which may be considered a problem for them.
Probably one of the reasons DK never elaborated on the disagreement in Shamballa is that it would be difficult for us to understand the source and the solution to the problem.
April 28, 2013
Scientology Revelation
This is a spin on Scientology I hadn’t come across before. This was from L Ron Hubbard’s son:
DeWolf declared that his father did no research at all prior to writing Dianetics. In fact he had been working on it for some years. Hubbard often said he had put thirty years of research into it but what he really did was take bits and pieces from other people and give them his own spin. Dianetics allegedly documented the results of Hubbard’s intensive research on almost three hundred “case histories.” But DeWolf says categorically that there was no research. “All were subcreated by Dad. None of them were case histories whatsoever; they were done strictly out of his mind, sitting at a typewriter in a few weeks time.” These “real-life experiences” were “the result of his obsessions with abortions and unconscious states. In fact the vast majority of those incidents were invented off the top of his head. The rest stem from his own secret life, which as deeply involved in the occult and black magic.” This involvement with demonology began when he got hold of Aleister Crowley’s book The Book of Law in Washington, D.C. when he was sixteen. He was interested in the Moonchild, a type of Satanic conception, and in embryo implants getting a demon to inhabit the body of a fetus.
After 1947 when Crowley died, Hubbard came to see himself as the Beast 666 incarnate, the Devil, the Antichrist, just as Crowley had done. He believed that he could become the most powerful being in the universe. Satanism was the only religion in the house. “What a lot of people don’t understand is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours, or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it’s stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don’t see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also you’ve got to realise that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan. He had a direct line of communication and power with him.”
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Keith: These types of characters are interesting because they seem to be knowledgeable enough to be 1st or 2nd degree initiates, who seem to be pulling towards the left hand path permanently. Remember J.J.’s Immortal Series – every disciple of the left was once an initiate of light.
Hitler had 15 food tasters and the only one to survive is still alive and recently gave her first interview. She said this about him:
“He was a vegetarian. He never ate any meat during the entire time I was there,” Full story here:
Check it out. It is an interesting story.
What makes this statement by Hitler’s food taster significant is that many vegetarians have the belief that vegetarians are much more peaceful than meat eaters and Hitler was not a real vegetarian. From my studies I have concluded that he was pretty diligent about his diet though he may have went a little off now and then like most vegetarians do.
Another interesting thing is that as one goes trough the first two initiations he will spend significant time as a vegetarian. There are several reasons for this. One is to gain the self control necessary to become an initiate and secondly a vegetarian diet makes controlling the passions easier and they must be controlled to reach the second degree.
I’ll have to check more deeply into Hubbard’s early years. There are certainly ingredients of Scientology that indicate the left hand path.
April 30, 2013
Vegetarian Diet
Ruth: Can the Dark Brothers make and have more accurate prediction/prophesy rates because the Dark side is able to manipulate the lower devas and elementals and they can manipulate the emotional realm and lower mind with their psychology and hypnotic impressions and mass media infiltration with illusions/smoke and mirrors, and can they make predictions of a lower level as false prophets or Antichrists, and then make these predictions appear because of their manipulation with the lower forces?
JJ Those on the left hand path are much worse at accurately predicting than the brothers of light. They get something right now and then but to be a good prophet you need a degree of soul contact but even then you will not be 100% accurate.
Because their focus is on the material side they do have more power to quickly manifest their will on the physical plane but as DK says – when the workers of light manifest the results are much more permanent.
Ruth: Also, why did Hitler bother being a vegetarian. This makes no sense to me.
JJ He probably felt the impulse to do this as he was passing through the first two initiations and merely saw the advantages of it and stayed on it. He must have thought it helped provide better mental clarity and made him more sensitive to his highest contacts.
Ruth: When one is a vegetarian it is to become “lighter” so that soul energies can transfer through more easily etc.
JJ There are many reasons people become vegetarians and that is merely one. Some people just don’t have a taste for meat and others do it for health or to develop psychic abilities.
Someone asked if the vegetarian diet is used by higher initiates.
Many initiates above the second are vegetarians but others are not. If the disciple is going to concentrate on the inner work then the vegetarian diet is very useful. I’m curious of Keith is a vegetarian since he focuses a lot on the inner life.
If the disciple is going to concentrate on the outer life and work then he will usually eat meat or whatever the popular diet is.
April 30, 2013
Re: Questions to JJ – re: Ancient of Days
Ruth: Who then, is the (Lucifer) Angel that Fell into matter, if not the Ancient of Days? Was it one of the Moon chain souls? Buddha was the highest light from the moon, yet the Moon chain failed.
JJ Lucifer has not been allowed a dense physical body since his fall but lives in an etheric body.
It was actually the good guys who fell into matter. Here is an account by DK:
The Now becomes the time that was. The aeon mergeth into space. The Word of Motion hath been heard. The Word of Love succeedeth. The Past controlled the form. The Now evolves the life. The Day that is to be sounds forth the Word of Power.
The form perfected and the life evolved hold the third secret of the greater Wheel. It is the hidden mystery of living motion. The mystery, lost in the Now but known to the Lord of Cosmic Will.
The thirty thousand million Watchers refused to heed the call. (30 billion out of 90 billion) “We enter not the forms,” they said, “until the seventh aeon.” The twice thirty thousand million (60 Billion) hearkened to the call and took the forms designed.
The rebellious ones laughed within themselves, and sought pralayic peace until the seventh aeon. But the seven great Lords called to the greater Chohans, and with the eternal Lhas of the third cosmic heaven entered into debate.
The dictum then went forth. The laggards in the highest sphere heard it echo through the scheme. “Not till the seventh aeon, but at the fourteenth seventh will the chance again come round. The first shall be the last and time be lost for aeons.”
The obedient Sons of Mind connected with the Sons of Heart, and evolution spiralled on its way. The Sons of Power stayed in their appointed place, though cosmic karma forced a handful to join the Sons of Heart.
At the fourteenth seventh aeon, the Sons of Mind and Heart, absorbed by endless flame, will join the Sons of Will, in manvantaric manifestation. Three times the wheel will turn.
At the centre stand the buddhas of activity, helped by the lords of love, and following their twofold work will come the radiant lords of power.
The buddhas of creation from out the past have come. The buddhas of love are gathering now. The buddhas of will at the final turn of the third major wheel will flash into being. The end will then be consummated. From The Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Pages 25-27
April 30, 2013
Re: Scientology Revelation
Stephen: During last year’s dark episode, a presence drew close to me that seemed very powerful in my heightened state. It told me to choose the Right Hand Path of Love and to not choose the Left Hand Path of Power. It said what was commonly known as the Dark Path was misrepresented, and that the Path of Power was a more direct route to God, stating that everything served God’s purpose in the end.
JJ As a matter of course be very suspicious of any shortcuts as they are usually scams in real life.
Shortcuts from the darkside has creeped into all philosophies. Here are a few:
Believe in Jesus and be saved. That is all you have to do.
Follow XYZ guru and you wipe out karma.
Support the government borrowing money so we can have free stuff.
Forget about your brother; it’s each man for himself if you want to get ahead.
The key for true advancement is to always follow the path of love and wisdom that includes the whole rather than just the tiny self. The name of Jesus Christ implies that we move up the ladder by taking our brothers with us. If Jesus did not embrace this philosophy he would have taken the kingdoms of the world when they were offered to him.
May 1, 2013
Some Basics
It looks like we need to reestablish some basics concerning our past.
Point one. The two thirds, or the 60 billion monads, designated for physical bodies are the good guys. These incarnated into physical bodies. They fell only in the senses that they descended from the higher spheres to the dense physical.
The one third fell spiritually. They refused to incarnate thinking that others could do the hard work and when a golden age was ushered in then they would come down and enjoy the fruit of the labors of others.
For this great mistake these were not allowed to take physical bodies at all for a very long period. It is written: “Not till the seventh aeon, but at the fourteenth seventh will the chance again come round. The first shall be the last and time be lost for aeons.”
Among this rebellious third were a number of Lucifers or sons of the Morning but at the foundation of Shamballa there was a particularly advanced one who did not cooperate and formulated his own agenda. None of the rebellious Lucifers are allowed to directly incarnate though they have overshadowed disciples at times and had virtual bodies.
(2) The third who fell to the earth fell no lower than the etheric levels. The fall to earth symbolizes a consciousness that does not rise above the material or lower planes. They either occupy etheric bodies or thoughtforms created by incarnated humans. We thus create our own devils but they are given life by the fallen angels.
Those of us with physical bodies didn’t fall to earth but we descended to earth for a great purpose.
(3) Hitler in a previous incarnation led the Lords of Dark Face in Atlantis overshadowed by a Lucifer.
(4) Giants were created by initiates gone astray in physical bodies. They may have been inspired by members of the fallen third but the fallen did not inhabit their bodies except by shared possession.
(5) There are different grades of etheric matter. It is not a punishment to use any of the grades. The third are punished by being limited to the lower grades and not being allowed to incarnate in the dense physical and use it for their pleasure.
The Ancient of Days does not have this limitation as he can manifest in any grade of matter he desires within the cosmic physical plane. He will incarnate among us at some point in our future.
(6) There have been numerous destructions and recreations. There have been numerous Adam and Eves. The last time this occurred was referenced in the biblical story about 6000 years ago. The Biblical story is a composite to teach basic truths.
May 1, 2013
Re: Some Basics
Dan: That may be but the basic truth I see is that one entity wants to keeps his creation as essentially mindless robots without real consciousness and another wants them to become conscious creators “knowing good from evil”. Now, the ‘ol serpent likely did that for his own purposes but don’t we all ONLY do those things that we think will benefit us?
Regardless, this doesn’t change the fact that IMO the ‘ol snake did us a favor. Lets see, mindless but contented meat robot or conscious decider/creator …. hmmm, decisions decisions decisions.
TRUE choice was not even really POSSIBLE pre-Apple.
JJ There are three interpretations concerning this conundrum.
First is the standard Christian one that all would have been bliss if not for the old serpent getting in the way. The fact that we would have missed the opportunity to expend free will and know good and evil does not seem to bother them.
The second is embraced by HPB and many esoterists. She maintains that the story has the good guys and bad guys mixed up. She thinks that Jehovah is really Satan and the serpent is the benevolent God.
Her reasoning is sound for the serpent seems to support free choice and Jehovah seems to want to keep us in ignorance.
On the other hand, the story does not support the idea that the serpent was God for Jehovah was definitely the more powerful of the two and had power to punish the serpent as well as being the creator of the entire garden situation.
Joseph Smith presents a third view, which is this. Jehovah is the true God and the one who truly supports free agency whereas the serpent wants to control our minds and take it away.
The whole situation was created by God to force humans into a fall where they would discover free will, good and evil and thus have an opportunity to progress. To learn this they had to experience sinning or violating what is perceived as the will of God. He thus gave them a commandment that He knew they would disobey and the serpent was a key element in the plan.
Joseph said that “the serpent knew not the mind of God” and actually cooperated in the plan by tempting them to disobey God, thus introducing sin into the world.
He taught that the serpent was not interested in expanding free will but felt that a fall would give him an opportunity to establish a kingdom where he could set himself up as the ultimate authority. He thought if humans were given knowledge of good and evil that they could not rise above a certain level and thus always be under his dominion.
The ace in the hole for God was Christ who was sent to turn the tide from material focus to the spiritual.
He taught that the difference in the two sides is being played out on earth today with part of humanity fighting for free will and freedom and the other supporting the things that take away free will. Some of these things are big government, too many laws and regulations, centralized authority with power over us, and high taxes.
If one doesn’t know for sure which version, if any, is correct then all he need to is concentrate on the understanding of true principles. When one understands the principle of freedom and supports whoever is on its side he will automatically find himself on the side of the good guys high or low.
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