Posted Oct 12, 2010
Justin poses some deep thoughts:
There’s been this question nagging on my mind lately and I just can’t shake it. I pose the question here because I believe you all are the only ones who would understand it well enough to give satisfying answers. I apologize that it is potentially a very gloomy subject.
It begins with a principle JJ teaches, along the lines of “anything that has a beginning must have an ending.” Well, all of the memories we create in life have a beginning. Does this mean that we will eventually forget all of our experiences? All of our leaps forward in progress have a beginning. Does this mean that we will eventually lose all our progress?
Taking the idea to its logical conclusion, it would seem that at some distant point in the future, everything will come to an end (except for God’s reflections themselves, created outside of time). Then it will be as if none of this ever happened. There would not even be a record of it anywhere.
My question to you is: Is the above an accurate assessment of our reality? Because if it is, then what’s the point of anything? Is there a better way of seeing “the big picture”? Right now it appears to me that we go through this practically endless struggle for the sole purpose of staving off God’s boredom for a time.
I would be very grateful if someone could demonstrate that my thinking is off on this one.
JJ
A book could probably be written on this subject but I’ll attempt to give a few thoughts to the group.
You write:
“All of the memories we create in life have a beginning. Does this mean that we will eventually forget all of our experiences?”
JJ
All form has a beginning and an end. Therefore that which is recorded in form will eventually reach a time that the recording instrument will lose its form and the recording will cease. This means that the memories in the body will be lost to the body.
Actually, this happens at death.
BUT…
Our memories are also recorded in higher parts of ourselves clear up to our Monads. The Monad doesn’t have form in the regular dense, as it is a point (singularity) in divine space. All of our history in this universe is stored in the various monads. If scientists are correct about the age of the universe this would mean that there are recordings going back over 14 billion years.
But even in this creation of seven, the universe is recreated many times before it becomes a part of the universe of eight. Therefore, there were many universes before this one. How far back does the record go?
If there is no end to the recording principle it means that it has always been in existence. If there was no beginning to recording as there is no beginning to the creation process then it is possible that the records of events and memories will never be lost.
It is definitely true that memories are lost temporarily even in the short run. When we are reborn on the earth we start with a blank slate, having lost all the memories of many lives. Fortunately, these memories are retrievable.
But even when we do not have an exact record of our past we do take with us a knowing which is more important than memory. When you meet a person from a past life relationship you may not have a memory of him or her, but you will have a knowing. They will seem familiar and a sensitive soul can know them well enough to pick up where they left off.
What does have a beginning and an end is the importance of specific memories. At the time one goes through an event he may think that the period was so significant that he will never want to lose it. But sometimes the importance passes in a year, sometimes ten years, sometimes a lifetime and sometimes many lifetimes. But there will come a time that current situations will far overshadow the distant past so much that the desire to return and review it will be virtually zero.
I remember back in high school I liked to buy expensive pens, but every time I bought one I would lose it in a few days. This used to drive me crazy and I often thought that when I entered the next world the first thing I was going to do was to review my life to see where the dickens those pens disappeared to.
That was very important to me back then. But now, fifty years later, my interest in this is close to zero.
What is important to us changes over time. What you see as a cherished or important memory now may not be important at all a thousand years from now and may not be seen as worthy of retrieving.
The important thing to realize is that all memories are a record of cause and effect and cause and effect is eternal without beginning and end. As I said before, there is no such thing as a first cause because cause and effect always has been in existence.
Losing my pens created effects that influenced other effects and then those effects influenced still other effects ad infinitum. This is perhaps the most important aspect of memories never completely fading out of existence.
Do you remember what you dreamed two nights ago?
Probably not and you probably never will. However, the dream seemed important to you when you were in it and it had an effect upon you that still influences you in subtle ways.
Justin asks:
All of our leaps forward in progress have a beginning. Does this mean that we will eventually lose all our progress?
JJ
There is a beginning and end to each leap but not the leaping itself. As monads bearing the quality of intelligence we have always been in intelligent motion of some kind.
If you decide to learn the multiplication tables there is a beginning and end to your endeavor. When you learn them all then you are done or at an end. Then if you become dependent on using a computer or calculator you may even reach an end in using the tables you memorized.
The same thing happens if you learn Spanish. Once you learn so much of it you reach an end to your learning. When the whole world invents a new language and no one speaks Spanish anymore then even your use of this will be at an end.
The scriptures say that the course of God is one eternal round. How many circles can be placed around the surface of a globe? The number is without limit. There is no end to the eternal rounds.
Technically there is one thing that has a beginning but no end and that is numbers. They start at zero, or one and go on without end. There is no such thing as an ultimate number.
BUT… there is always a number that is a present end point. There may be a beginning number to anything you do and there is a number to how many times you have done it, but there is no ultimate number to the number of times you can do a thing.
We are on the course of eternal lives. There is a beginning and end to each life or experience, but as eternal beings we can always go back and experience a new life. There is a number to everything we do but never an ending limiting number.
Justin:
Taking the idea to its logical conclusion, it would seem that at some distant point in the future, everything will come to an end (except for God’s reflections themselves, created outside of time). Then it will be as if none of this ever happened. There would not even be a record of it anywhere.
JJ
All your past makes you what you are in the Now. This includes your past that you have forgotten and seems as if it never was. If you are like most people you remember nothing that happened for the first two years of your life. It is as if it never happened. You never think of those two years and they have no meaning to your conscious mind. But cause and effect is eternal and during those two years there were many causes and effects that made a huge contribution to what you are in the now.
There will come a time that everything that is important to us now will not be important to our waking consciousness but the influence will always be with us helping to shape use throughout the eternities.
Justin:
…what’s the point of anything? Is there a better way of seeing “the big picture”? Right now it appears to me that we go through this practically endless struggle for the sole purpose of staving off God’s boredom for a time.
JJ
The scripture says that “man is that he might have joy.” You can’t really have much joy or happiness if you are bored to death. Joy, happiness and fulfillment come from work and activity that we enjoy. The is no enjoyment in boredom.
Between creations we all participate in preparing the new creation by designing the levels involved that the thrill of entertainment will be so great that joy will be the word to describe the feeling of accomplishment involved.
We are one with God so it is not an outside god that we are seeking to relieve from boredom, but ourselves.
And what is boredom? It is a lack of activity toward something of interest. And what is the ultimate lack of activity?
It is death.
And what is activity?
Life.
And what is the ultimate activity?
Eternal lives.
May it be so.
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