Keys Writings 2015, Part 11

This entry is part 12 of 13 in the series 2015B

2015B

May 4, 2014

Physical Evidence

While it is true that many references to reincarnation were purged in the early church they were unable to clean the scriptures of all evidence. In my two treatises I have presented a large amount of scriptural evidence that is quite overwhelming.

Of course, people with a strong belief system are unlikely to change after reading it no matter what the evidence. In fact most involved in orthodox religion will not even read hem. A number of friends and family actually burned my writings after I gave them copies. They wanted to make sure a thrown away copy didn’t find its way into any reader’s hands.

The interesting thing about reincarnations is that there are multiple ways to prove it.

(1) The scriptures

(2) Logic and reason

(3) Regression where the recollections are verified.

(4) Near death experiences verify it.

(4) Physical evidence.

This later one is interesting and a chapter of my book Eternal Lives” goes into it. Here it is:

Chapter Three

Physical Evidence

Not only did my own experiments, experience and study of the scriptures such as mentioned previously help convince me of reincarnation, but there are hundreds of documented cases of people remembering their past lives. I have personally met people who remember past lives with normal consciousness without the aid of any regression techniques.

This conscious remembering is not as rare as many may think and this phenomenon caught the attention of Dr. Ian Stevenson, the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, about forty years ago. Since that time he has traveled the world studying these people and has accumulated about 3000 cases in his files.

Most of the more amazing cases occur with young children just a couple years old who are just learning to speak. As a general rule they remember the past life for a couple years and lose the memory around the age of five or six.

In a typical situation the child may insist that her parents are not really her parents, but that her true parents (and perhaps spouse) are in another city or part of the country). Dr. Stevenson tries to catch these children before they had a chance to visit their home of a previous life and take them there and scientifically examine their response. In many cases the child’s memory of a past life is proven, for the name given out is discovered to be a real person who died. The child is then taken to the home of her past life and will identify dozens of memories that she could have not acquired in this life. If there is some secret hiding place he or she will identify this. If there are favorite possessions, these will be pointed out.

In one case a young girl identified a previous spouse who refused to believe that the little girl was his dead wife reborn. She gave identification after identification of information only the wife could have known, but still the guy was unconvinced. In desperation the little girl pulled him aside and step by step told him exactly what she did to him when they made love as husband and wife. That did the trick. The man was convinced.

Basically Dr. Stevenson likes to get about twenty-four items of identification from the child of things that she could have not known, about the family and circumstances of the past life before he will take it seriously or even write about it.

In 35% of cases he investigated, children who died an unnatural death developed phobias. For example, if they had drowned in a past life then they frequently developed a phobia about going out of their depth in water. If they had been shot, they were often afraid of guns and sometimes loud bangs in general. If they died in a road accident they would sometimes develop a phobia of traveling in cars, buses or trucks.

If the child’s previous life possessed a talent of some kind then the child shows a disposition to that talent as he or she matures.

The child will often express a wish for the type of food she had in a past life.

If the child was a different sex in the past life then the person will often be homosexual in the current life.

This is all the type of information that I and others who have done regression work have discovered, but unable to give scientific proof. The difference with Dr. Stevenson is that he delivers actual proof.

Now some will look at this type of evidence and declare that it is the work of the devil – that some tricky evil spirit is deceiving these children.

This is a poor excuse used since the beginning of time by those who have attempted to escape the power of logic and thought, and has been used against every holy man that God has sent including Jesus. Even with the great evidence of the miracles He demonstrated before unbelieving eyes He was himself accused of being possessed by evil and doing his miracles by the power of the evil one. Also Joseph Smith is often accused of writing the Book of Mormon by the power of the devil.

However, the scriptures give evidence that Dr. Stevenson’s children are not influenced by Satan for it is written:

But behold, I say unto you, that little children are redeemed from the foundation of the world through mine Only Begotten; Wherefore, they cannot sin, for power is not given to Satan to tempt little children, until they begin to become accountable before me. D&C 29:46-47

Also: “little children are whole, for they are not capable of committing sin.” Moroni 8:8

If indeed reincarnation is the “doctrine of the devil” and wrong – or a sinful belief, then according to scripture the evil one would have no power to tempt children under the age of eight (the age of accountability) to remember past lives of actual people.

Scripture also says: “Now this is not all; little children do have words given unto them many times which confound the wise and the learned.” Alma 32:23

This is indeed the case with Stevenson’s studies. The little children he works with have come up with powerful evidence that have confounded the wise and learned of the world.

If the reader is interested in reading numerous case studies Dr. Stevenson has done I would recommend the book: “Children who remember Previous Lives.”

It is available at Amazon.com. HERE is the Link.

Perhaps even more startling than the evidences derived from recalling past lives is Dr. Stevenson’s more recent work on corresponding birthmarks from one life to the next. He discovered that if one has a wound, particularly one that caused death, such as a gunshot, that the person will often have a birthmark in the exact placed where the wound was in a past life. What is even more fascinating is that if the person received a bullet wound which penetrated the body and left an exit hole that the entity will have a birthmark at both the point of entrance and exit.

Even more interesting is that the exit wound is larger than the entrance, and when the corresponding birthmarks are examined he found that the birthmark at the location of the exit wound was also much bigger.

Dr. Stevenson examined 895 children, who remembered past lives, for birthmarks, corresponding to wounds and found related birthmarks on 309 of them or 35%.

The chances of this happening are very miniscule. The average adult has about 17 square feet of skin stretching over his body. That is 2448 square inches. Now the chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of the body in a current life as a wound in a past life is 2448:1. The chances of finding a birthmark on the same square inch of both an exit and entrance wound is much greater: 5,992,704 to one, yet Stevenson turned up this startling evidence time and time again.

The interesting thing about the birthmark study is that the “tricky devil:” theory is even more ridiculous. To believe the devil is bouncing around stamping birthmarks on children defies all logic.

One can read much more on this subject of birthmarks and examine the evidence himself from Dr. Stevenson’s book: “Where Reincarnation and Biology Intersect.”

In addition to this he has a more exhaustive 2200 page study called “Reincarnation and Biology.”

Another interesting evidence of reincarnation comes through Near Death Experiences (NDE).

Amber Wells of the University of Connecticut wrote a research paper based on her study of the near death experience for her senior honors thesis under the direction of Dr. Kenneth Ring. She discovered that 70 percent of the people who experience NDE believe in reincarnation, and many of them so believe because of something gleaned from the experience. On the other hand, according to Gallup only 23 percent of Americans in general believe in the doctrine. These statistics bear out that there is something about the experience that convinced many who saw a glimpse of the great beyond that there is more than one life.

One event given by many is what is called the life review. Some report being given the ability to review their whole life in detail, but in addition to this many also reported the obtaining of a vision of numerous past lives.

Then others report seeing entities waiting to be reborn or being told that they will have future lives.

Here in the West we tend to look on a belief in reincarnation as a minority belief expressed by a few new agers, but many do not realize that more religious people of the world accept the doctrine than reject it.

Interestingly, many of the American Indians believed in reincarnation. The Dakota tribe taught that man lived at least four lives and in between those lives he lived with the Gods and received instruction in magic and healing. Many of the Indian medicine men claimed to remember past lives. The Indian hunters did not believed they actually killed an animal, but just deprived it of its body for a short time. Often among the Tibetans as well as Eskimos if there is an old man who knows he is going to die he will find a young couple that he likes and ask permission to be their future child. If they accept he will give that couple his personal things that he wants for his next life and then wander off to die. There are numerous occurrences where babies of such couples will claim such articles as their own, and for a short period of time have a recollection of the past life associated with them.

This searching for marks of identification is very common among cultures that believe in reincarnation, and especially among the Tlingit Indians and the Igbos of Nigeria. Various tribes of West Africa make marks on the body of the recently deceased in order to be able to identify the person when he or she is reborn.

All the evidence I discovered helped me to believe in reincarnation, but I did not know it for sure until the day I discovered that I had lived before. This changed my whole life and outlook and opened my eyes to a new world of seeing.

I was amazed and almost wished it wasn’t true because of the problems it could create for my church membership, but for once in my life I realized that an average member of the church like myself may become aware of the truth of many doctrines that neither the prophet or the general authorities know anything about.

If the reader even after seeing all the evidence of reincarnation is still not convinced he should seek an answer through the Spirit as commanded in the scriptures. Ask with a sincere heart and you will receive an answer through the Holy Spirit.

The promise in the Book of Mormon pertains to all true works. Read Alma 32 and D&C 9:7-9 and see if the doctrine of reincarnation does not generate the feelings and results described. You are commanded to “try the spirits whether they are of God.” I John 4:1. Remember you are not commanded to ignore the sprits or claim they are from the devil, or to try and destroy them, but “try them”. It is as Joseph Smith said: “When was the time that I was ever confounded?” This doctrine cannot be confounded or proved wrong because it is true and it is in the scriptures despite the efforts of the Great and Abominable Church to remove all reference to the doctrine. The truth cannot be removed and darkness only lasts during the night and then cometh the day and we see with a perfect light.

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Agreement

Well, Clay, you say that you do not know how you can be clearer, but you are not clear at all about how you disagree with us. You are clear about your belief in certain universally accepted ideas such as hard work and relying on experts when needed, but that is not a part of any disagreement.

Now most of the group agrees with me on the use of authorities, education etc so I’ll itemize a number of my beliefs on this subject and then to finally be clear to us perhaps you can tell us which ones that you actually disagree with and why.

It takes lot of hard work to acquire a difficult skill and we give anyone his or her due praise for such an accomplishment.

Note: You seemed to think we did not realize this for some strange reason.

It take a lot of work to get a college degree.
Many things learned in college and other schools are very useful and enable the person to perform a good service to his fellow men and women.
Some classes are of much more practical use than others.
Some courses like engineering, math and physics do not allow much room for bias because the principles are universally accepted. Others can have a lot of bias and illusion creep in such as political science, history and philosophy.
If someone has a skill or knowledge that I do not then I will figure he knows more in his area of learning than I do, since I have not studied it.

(A) For instance if I wanted to build a house and had never done any construction then I would trust the advice of an experienced builder.

(B) If I wanted to set up a lemonade stand in the middle of downtown Boise and wanted to know the legalities of it I would figure that an experienced lawyer such as yourself would know more about the law involved than I do.

(C) If I wanted to know more about entanglement in quantum physics I would seek out someone with knowledge of the subject rather than some guy in a Bible study group.

(D) If I wanted to know about the history of Catholic saints then I would want to learn from someone who has studied them in depth.

(E) If I needed surgery I would certainly seek out one who was trained and experienced in the matter rather than the local barber.

BUT… Here is what I would not rely on from the above:

(A) If the builder told me the style and color of the house I should have then I would trust what I value above his tastes for I am the greatest expert on my own tastes.

If the builder was going way over budget and says “trust me. I know what I am doing.” then I would look into the details myself and not just trust him.

(B) If you told me that you could arrange for me to have a lemonade stand on the freeway then I would figure your judgment is so bad I shouldn’t use you for any legal matter.

(C) If the scientist says that entanglement is a true principle yet there is no such thing a extra sensory perception I would figure that the guy is way below me in the ability to synthesis information to discover larger truth.

(D) If the Catholic guy started telling me that I needed to pluck my eyes out the way St Lucy was supposed to have done then I wouldn’t trust him in any matter that required interpretation or judgment, even though he may have lots of factual knowledge.

(E) If the doctor wanted to put me on any kind of drug I wouldn’t trust him even though it conformed to his training. I have proven to myself that most drugs do more harm than good and have had good results in not taking any except some natural ones such as in coffee and wine.

So do you disagree with any of he above points? If so, explain. All of us know that someone with a PhD knows some facts in their field that we may not, but this does not mean we should trust their judgment. Or maybe it does in your mind.

You are just not clear enough to be concisely argued with. Wed like an argument to lead to some resolution and understanding rather than to be an eternal circle.

May 5, 2015

Tricky Devil

As expected Ken used the “Tricky Evil Spirit” card to refute the physical evidence of reincarnation. This tricky evil spirit idea has wide use among many Christian fundamentalists and it is one reason they are a legitimate (in this area) laughing stock among scientists and people of reason. Some tricky devil planted dinosaur bones and fossils to make it look like life has been on earth millions of years and that some type of evolution occurred. Then that same devil arranges half life dating to deceive scientists into thinking the earth is billions of years old.

Every time some enlightened soul gets a revelation they do not like then the tricky devil did it. But if some answer to prayer agrees with their belief system it, of course, came from God.

If one of their own heals someone by faith then God did it, but if someone of a different belief system does the same then the healing was done by the tricky devil.

Now the problem with blaming the tricky devil in planting false memories of past lives is that most of those who do recall past lives without assistance are young children. Their memories are most vivid around the ages of three to four years of age. These young children were the main focus of Ian Stevenson’s research and in case after case he verified the past life memories of the kids to be accurate.

I don’t know about your beliefs but some religions believe that Satan cannot temp or influence innocent children until they become self aware. If you believe that God is fair then you would think that he would make such children off limits to demonic possession.

Whatever the case innocent young kids that Jesus said we must become like to enter the kingdom of heaven would logically be the safest ones from being deceived by those tricky devils.

It is inconceivable that the tricky devil could have anything to do with the birthmark evidence of past lives. Let me quote again from my last post:

Dr. Stevenson examined 895 children, who remembered past lives, for birthmarks, corresponding to wounds and found related birthmarks on 309 of them or 35%.

So, how did the tricky devil make all those birthmarks appear? Or do you think that everyone with a birthmark has a mark from the devil?

And how about people who learned about reincarnation from a near death experience? Was that the tricky devil at work again?

And speaking of tricky devils, how do you know that your beliefs were not planted in your mind by some tricky evil spirit? How do you know you are even here. Maybe you really live on the planet Xenon and worship a giant goldfish and some tricky devil is just planting this earth experience in your mind as you dream.

Well, maybe not but this just illustrates how ar removed from reality the tricky devil idea can be taken.

God gave us minds and common sense to use and if we do not use them we will kick ourselves in the end and feel pretty silly when the truth is seen.

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Clay:

I disagree with you on (c) and (e). The scientist is only interested in what they can prove. A good scientist would not say that there is no such thing as “extrasensory perception” but rather there is no hard proof to accept extra sensory perception exist.

I’m trying to pinpoint where we actually disagree and you don’t really disagree with me on (C). Instead you disagreed with the hypothetical scientist – which isn’t me. In your mind a good scientist may not disregard anything, but in reality quite a few do. So do you disagree with my reaction if a scientist did say there was no such thing as extra sensory perception? Here’s the quote:

Next you disagree with this:

To this you say:

I am definitely in favor of taking certain drugs. I have also proved beyond a reasonable doubt that drugs are incredibly efficacious for certain conditions and I think the anti-vaccination crowd is completely wrong headed and are dangerous.

Even on this you haven’t pinpointed a point of disagreement. My argument had nothing to do with the idea that all drugs are bad all the time (as sometimes they are helpful) but whether or not you will automatically accept every recommendation of your doctor or sometimes question and think and investigate the validly for yourself. So which is it? Do you always do everything every physician has tells you to do without question?

I’m trying to find actual points of disagreement here so we can do more than argue for arguments sake.

May 6, 2015

Pain in the Neck

Ken:

I’m going to ask you just one question. If a child was beheaded, would their birthmark be a ring around their neck when they reincarnate?

According to Stevenson’s research bout 35% of wounds such as gunshots, or knives result in birthmarks in a future life. He doesn’t say anything about beheadings, but I know from personal experience that this can cause a residual effect.

I once regressed a lady who had been plagued with terrific neck pains throughout her life and was frustrated because the doctors could find nothing wrong and could not help her.

Under regression she recalled being a child in an orphanage in England a couple hundred years ago. Apparently it was common procedure in this orphanage that when they had more kids than they could handle to just kill the surplus ones. They took her down to a dungeon like area and cut her head off.

I realized that death traumas from past lives can cause problems in the current one and the solution is to have them face the trauma even though it is painful so I had her review the memory until she could do so without tension. Then when I brought her back to then present her neck had completely left.

I bumped into her a couple years later and asked her if her pain ever returned and she said that they completely disappeared ever since the regression.

As far as memories being passed down through lineage this doesn’t hold water because people often recall memories of living a life in a different race with no family connection.

It is possible to tune into a memory of another entity who is dead but when this happens the person knows that the entity was not him in a past life. When recalling a past life the person generally has inner confirmation it was him or her in that life.

Besides, you believe the soul sleeps at death so there would be nothing to tune into according to your belief system.

Do you believe the same as the Jehovah Witnesses that when you die you sleep with no consciousness and then God will resurrect us all and judge us and those not worthy will be burned up into oblivion?

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Ken:

well then should we also find examples of birthmark blisters all over the bodies of children who were burned to death? Or how about a child that was eaten by an animal or shark, will we not find birthmark tooth marks all over their bodies? Or how about all the children that died of the “black plague,” did they reincarnate as “black” people? Just how far will you take this reasoning?

We are not talking about theory here but actual events. It is actually true that 35% of those with past life memories of stabbings or shootings have birthmarks in the wounded areas and that the chances of an entrance and exit mark in the exact spots are about one in 6 million.

Other traumatic deaths do leave a mark of some kind but it is often not a physical mark as in the case the case of the lady I regressed with neck pain. If someone were burned to death they may have a problem with rashes or just a fear of fire.

But all people are different and some handle trauma a lot better than others and some get better restoration between lives. Some can take a lot of trauma and bounce back relatively unaffected. I’m kinda that way.

You never answered my question. Here it is again:

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Clay:

“Wow you read a whole analysis on the measles vaccine!!!! And was that analysis published in a “peer reviewed” journal may I inquire?”

It sounds like you will not accept any fact that is not published in a peer reviewed paper. With that attitude then personal experiences or the experiences if others would be meaningless.

I just read about crime statistics in the Boise paper this morning. I guess I should not even consider them with my analytical mind because they have not been published in a peer-reviewed paper. You seem to be not only attached to outer authority, but the authority must be super cleaned and scrubbed authorities. It is kind of amazing that you accept Catholic ceremonies or spiritual experiences when they have not been approved in scientific peer reviewed papers.

By the way I the postman just delivered the book you recommended, Meditations on the Tarot and I’m going to start it today, but I do not see any peer reviewed endorsement of it from an authoritative sourced.

So are you going to read Treatise on White Magic?

May 7, 2015

Space News

As most of you know I am a big fan of the space program. Those who share such interest are certainly in for a treat.

First we have the Dawn space probe, which is the first probe to visit two objects orbiting the sun. Its first visit was to the large asteroid called Vesta. It arrived there in July of 2011 and orbited it over a year studying it.

Here is a composite video which gives a great overview of the object.

LINK

Thanks to the first major implementation of xenon ion thrusters the craft had a source of power that enabled it to leave the orbit of Vesta to take off to visit the largest asteroid, Ceres, which is large enough to be called a dwarf planet, the same category that Pluto has been designated.

It has begun its orbit around Ceres and is presently about 8400 miles above the surface. By mid June it will close in at around 2700 miles and draw closer until the end of the year when it will get as close as about 230 miles.

What makes a closer approach to Ceres especially interesting is a couple unusually bright spots that have been photographed there by the approaching craft. These are especially intriguing considering that Ceres gets a lot less sunlight than we do being much further from the sun. Scientists have really been scratching their heads over this and are excited about taking a closer look.

To look at the recent images just Google “Ceres Bright Spot”.

From now until the end of the year we’ll be getting clearer and clearer images and it will be fascinating to get a better view of this mystery.

Each time we visit a celestial body there is something discovered that looks like it could be made by intelligent beings, like the face on Mars, but nothing that proves it for sure. I always thought it would be fascinating if they came up with some picture that provided concrete evidence that could not be denied.

The other endeavor that has my great interest is the New Horizons space probe that is finally, after a nine year journey, reaching Pluto. It will arrive at its closest point for a brief flyby on July 14. I have had great interest in what a close up of Pluto would look like since I was six years old so I am happy I have lived long enough to actually see this happen.

After Pluto they hope to guide the craft to another object even further out.

The rest of the year should have some interesting celestial revelations for us.

In the Sixties the budget for the space program was about 3.5% of our federal spending. Today it has been reduced to a half of one percent and a lot of that is for global warming studies instead of exploration. Imagine where we would be if we had kept NASA well funded.

This is one of our uses of tax dollars that I support, not only because of my interest in the space program, but also because the advances in technology from it have provided a generous return on our investment.

Here are some of them:

LINK

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Here’s what I gather from your comments Ken.

Even though I believe in Christ because I do not believe in your version I will sleep at death and then be resurrected only to be put to death for eternity.

But a Jehovah Witness seems to believe pretty close to your version so they will not sleep but remain in full consciousness with Christ and you for eternity.

If this assumption is wrong straighten me out.

If this is not correct then who else besides you and your bother will not sleep at death? Be specific and don’t just say those who believe as you or exactly as you interpret scripture.

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May 8, 2015

Clay:

As for Moses actually existing, I am agnostic on the issue, it is possible some figure like Moses was the leader of the Ya faction, but he is mostly a literary creation.

I had an experience confirming the reality of Moses similar to that of your wife with Jesus and here is some of what I received.

There was a real Moses who did receive commandments written on stone tablets. However, they were not written by the finger of Jehovah, but by his own hand while in a state of oneness with God on a mountain, so after a manner of speaking they were written by the finger of God. He was transfigured and his body glowed just as the Bible says. That doesn’t mean that everything written about him, or is in the Old Testament, is accurate however.

May 10, 2015

Spiritual Communion

In response to my post on the Principle of Hierarchy Blayne writes:

You often hear people say God is working in their lives or put it all in the hands of God etc. People with sincere beliefs along this line often do seem to have doors open for them toward the things they seem to pray for, or their life just seems to improve when they take this mindset.

I myself have experienced this to some degree. I have felt God so to speak has orchestrated things in my life especially looking back. Is there some principle behind this or is it just the fact they are focusing their energy in this direction?

What you are talking about here demonstrates the principle that energy follows thought. If you think positive you will attract desirable things into your life, but if one thinks negatively the opposite will happen.

Think back to someone you know who is positive about life. Maybe you do not see him for a year or so and then ask him how things are going.

The guy with a positive attitude will rarely give you a sob story but will immediately tell you about something that happened or that he is working on that is very fulfilling for him.

Now consider someone you know who is negative who you haven’t seen for a while. How will he respond?

He’ll normally tell you tales of bad luck, and spend more time than you want relating all the terrible things fate as bestowed on him since you last met.

What is the difference in the two? It is in the focus of their thought. You can rest assured the positive one had problems to deal with that he didn’t burden you with, but that was not his focus. His attention was on the good things of life so he naturally drew these things into his sphere of consciousness.

Because we have this godlike power within us to manifest our thoughts we generally do not need some great being on a throne to hear and answer our prayers. Just sending focused thought, positive or negative, into the ethers will bring a response so real that it will seem as if either God or the devil is on your shoulder making things happen.

Here is one of my favorite quotes:

Words are things, and a small drop of ink, Falling like dew, upon a thought, produces That which makes thousands, perhaps millions, think.

Lord Byron

Words and thoughts indeed are things waiting to manifest.

Blayne:

Having said that some folks myself included have at times just felt I’ll go where ever God or the spirit leads and have had good experiences doing this. Is this the higher self prompting or guiding? Or is the Guardian Angel the higher self etc.?

Most seekers feel some type of guidance taking place in their lives and when the inner voice is followed the person almost always benefits. When it is not there is usually regret.

The guidance we feel comes from a number of sources.

(1) You life plan built into your inner memory.

Before you were born you chose the situation you were to be born into and saw a probable projection of your life and the various decision points. As you focused on your future life and the important forks in the road you did your best to instill into your inner consciousness decisions you wanted yourself to make and paths you wanted to take. If you wanted to take a certain career choice, have a certain mate, go to a specific school you tried to imprint this into your mental body so the path would seen familiar to you when the event would come up in your life.

As you journey through life and find that certain decisions just feel right this is often because you are following a plan you designed when you were in a higher state of consciousness in the spirit world.

(2) Your guide or guardian angel

There is always one fellow traveler that is out of incarnation that has agreed to watch over your life. This person is often called your guardian angel, but is more appropriately called a guide. You are not his full time job but he does check in with you now and then, especially if you are entering a point of tension that creates a wave of spiritual energy he or she picks up. It is not the guide’s job to save you from yourself or your troubles, but to do what he can to make sure you stay on the chosen or best possible path. If you are off course he will try and send you a massage of some kind. He may do this by sending you an impression. If one is too dense to register this he may enter one of your dreams as a character in it and give you a message. Then too he may arrange for some signs to show up in your life.

If your life is going as scheduled you may go long periods with no communication from your guide, but he will be consistently aware of you and keeping an eye on your progression.

(3) Your Higher Self

The seeker does not have much communion with the Higher Self until he achieves a measure of soul contact. After this is achieved he becomes more sensitive to his whole self and obtains a strong sense of purpose about his life and what he can accomplish with it.

(4) A Master or an advanced spiritual life.

You only hear from an advanced entity when you are to be involved in a work that will affect a significant number of people outside of your personality interests. If such contact is made the seeker will feel a very intense vibration on a high spiritual level. He will know he is not imagining things.

(5) The baptism of fire.

This is powerful affirmation brought about by a point of tension in the seeker’s life. It is a powerful endowment of spiritual fire sent to confirm a spiritual direction that needs to be taken by the pilgrim.

Blayne:

I have often wondered about this. And even argued with folks that God is not micromanaging their lives when they insist everything that happens in their life is Gods will for them. I have argued that one must take initiative on his own etc…?

Yes, our lives are far from being micromanaged and we are expected to do all we can on our own so we can obtain maximum learning from life. Some of our greatest learning comes from mistakes and often all the gods and angels will just stand by and observe as we make them. Then there are times that a choice may take one on the road of retrogression. In this case effort will be made to signal to you to not take the path, but we always have freedom to ignore all spiritual communication and go our own bullheaded way.

The rule of thumb is that the more the seeker pays attention to and follows the spiritual communications the clearer and more helpful they will become.

May 11, 2015

Back to Synthesis

Way back in the mid Eighties I put a lot of thought into working synthetically with enlightened groups. I shared my thoughts with my Nephew Curtis and we brainstormed together and wrote the Twelve Principles of Synthesis. We did what we could at the time to interest enlightened people and groups to work together synthetically but did not receive much response.

Today with the internet and instant communications the situation and opportunity is much different and the possibility of making this happen is more of a possibility.

Now Stephen felt some inspiration in this direction and tried to link us up with Allan’s group which didn’t work out that well, though it was an interesting experience.

Thee were two problems with that endeavor. First, our approach and beliefs are widely different in important areas, and secondly we wound up too much is each other’s space.

What got me thinking in this direction again were some words I recently read again in Treatise on White Magic. Here they are:

On the physical plane, without any exoteric organisation, ceremonials, or outer form, there is integrating—silently, steadily and powerfully—a group of men and women who will supersede eventually the previous hierarchical effort. They will supersede all churches, all groups, and all organisations and will eventually constitute that oligarchy of elect souls who will govern and guide the world.

They are being gathered out of every nation, but are gathered and chosen, not by the watching Hierarchy or by any Master, but by the power of their response to the spiritual opportunity, tide and note. They are emerging out of every group and church and party, and will therefore be truly representative. This they do, not from the pull of their own ambition and prideful schemes, but through the very selflessness of their service. They are finding their way to the top in every department of human knowledge, not because of the clamour they make about their own ideas, discoveries and theories, but because they are so inclusive in their outlook and so wide in their interpretation of truth that they see the hand of God in all happenings, His imprint upon all forms and His note sounding forth through every channel of communication between the subjective reality and the objective outer form. They are of all races; they speak all languages; they embrace all religions, all sciences and all philosophies. Their characteristics are synthesis, inclusiveness, intellectuality and fine mental development. They own to no creed, save the creed of Brotherhood, based on the one Life. They recognise no authority, save that of their own souls, and no Master save the group they seek to serve, and humanity whom they deeply love. They have no barriers set up around themselves, but are governed by a wide tolerance, and a sane mentality and sense of proportion. They look with open eyes upon the world of men and recognise those whom they can lift and to whom they can stand as the Great Ones stand,—lifting, teaching and helping. `They recognize their peers and equals, and know each other when they meet and stand shoulder to shoulder with their fellow workers in the work of salvaging humanity. It does not matter if their terminologies differ, their interpretations of symbols and scriptures vary, or their words are few or many. They see their group members in all fields—political, scientific, religious, and economic—and give to them the sign of recognition and the hand of a brother. They recognise likewise Those who have passed ahead of them upon the ladder of evolution and hail Them Teacher, and seek to learn from Them that which They are so eager to impart.

This group is a product of the past and upon that past I will touch; I will also indicate the present situation and forecast somewhat the general lines along which their association and future work will run. That such a group is forming is true and holds a good augury for the coming decades. In quiet and subtle ways they are already making their presence felt but theirs is as yet primarily a subjective influence.

Treatise on White Magic, pages 399-401

It would be a good idea to read on here as he continues to discuss this group. He talks about the importance of spiritually minded people and groups being in contact with each other and sharing information. He seemed to think that by now some significant progress would have been made in this direction, but it appears very little has. There are a lot of groups seeking to spread enlightenment but I don’t see any of them significantly reaching out to other groups with some type of exchange. It is as if all the so-called Aquarian Age groups are still clinging to Piscean Age separateness.

If we take the step of reaching out to other groups with the attitude of synthesis and spreading the light then we definitely need some criteria to follow that will aid us in finding others in points of harmony. Obviously some groups would be a waste of time, such as fundamental religious organizations, though some individuals within them are good synthesizers. Take the Mormon church for instance. The LDS hierarchy are a million miles from working with Aquarian groups, but individuals on the outskirts with a following may be.

Here are The Twelve Principles of Synthesis intended to be a guideline for gathering groups.

THE TWELVE PRINCIPLES OF SYNTHESIS

We believe in the equality of men and women, the equal rights of each race and in the sacredness of all life.
We believe that we have the capacity to see Eye to Eye with each other through the application of the principles of non-deception, open communication and contact of higher intelligence that lies within.
We accept the responsibility of maintaining our bodies, emotions and minds in a state of maximum health and vitality. We Seek not to hurt but to heal.
We believe in the principle of Harmlessness, for when we harm another person, we only harm ourselves. We shall not inhibit, restrain, or oppress the free will or privilege of any individual to explore new concepts and philosophies.
We believe in the principle of Free Agency, and that there is a power within that enables us to proceed with purpose and accomplish many great and important works pertaining to the coming Age of Enlightenment.
We desire to initiate a New Age of Peace, prosperity and spiritual attainment through the intelligent application of the principles of Love, Knowledge and Wisdom.
We acknowledge the Christ-God-Consciousness as the single creative source manifesting through the Universe, and that this Power lies within each one of us.
We affirm that the power of Love is the greatest unifying principle and send only the pure Love of Christ/God to all.
We believe in the principle of Service, for when we serve one another, we serve ourselves. We retain only that which we have given away.
We disclaim all totalitarian and secular controls over our lives, and affirm the power of the people to enjoy a free, democratic society with maximum liberty for the individual.
We promote World Peace through the complete elimination of nuclear and doomsday weapons, international aggression, and the eradication of world hunger and poverty.
We seek not to be separative and isolated but to unite and join hands with all spiritually-minded groups and individuals who desire to bring Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all Humankind.

There are several things we can do to help in synthesizing the groups.

(1) First we must find them. There must be hundreds of possibilities.

(2) We can create an internet newsletter giving out information on the various groups concerning their teachings and event.

(3) We can encourage shared events.

Once we make some progress the possibilities are endless.

As I said the first step is in finding the various groups. Three that come to mind are the Lucis Trust, publishers of the Alice A. Bailey books, and the University of the Seven Rays. I think several here have taken classes from them. Then Duane Carpenter participates in an online discussion group that studies the Bailey books.

In addition to groups famous individuals with a following could be helpful such as Shirley McClain, Rain Wilson, Oprah and others.

So here is the next assignment to get this started. Anyone who has some time can surf the internet and search out spiritual non dogmatic groups and their contact information. You can either post the information here or send it to me in a private email.

Also, if you have ideas of how to best proceed with this endeavor give us your input.

May 12, 2015

The Birth of Souls

Clay writes:

I do believe in reincarnation as there does seem to be some pretty fascinating stories and from some personal experience that seems to verify its truth. There is however one major problem that keeps coming up for me and that is the issue of the rapid population growth that the world has experienced over the past hundred years. It is estimated that the world population reached one billion for the first time in 1804. It was another 123 years before it reached two billion in 1927, but it took only 33 years to reach three billion in 1960.[70]Thereafter, the global population reached four billion in 1974, five billion in 1987, six billion in 1999 and, according to the United States Census Bureau, seven billion in March 2012.[69] The United Nations, however, estimated that the world population reached seven billion in October 2011. Where in the world ( or worlds) are all these new people coming from? We can’t all have past lives, especially having multiple past lives (like Allan) For example, back in 1 AD, the time of Jesus, there was only a population of 231,000,000. So that would severely limit the number of people who could be alive today that lived back then. This seems to be a major flaw in the reincarnation argument, as for almost all of human history populations were relatively stable or experienced small growth year after year, but the rate of growth has been simply unprecedented in all of history. I have never seen this addressed by proponents of reincarnation and was interested in the forums thoughts on this.

Good to hear from you again. Glad we haven’t scared you off yet.

Good question and one that is raised by many critics of reincarnation.

DK tells us that there are 60 billion human monads designated for this planet. Then there were 30 billion additional ones that refused to participate in the human incarnation process.

Right now the population is about seven billion so that would mean that there are 53 billion monads that are still available as surplus.

The human monad goes through two births. The first is a birth as a soul which is then overshadowed by a solar angel that nurtures it until it reaches the end of its earth journey. Not all the monads are born as souls at one time but enter soul bodies as needed in the incarnation process.

As the population has increased more monads have entered into soul life and the periods between incarnation have also shortened. I know this from the numerous people I have taken back. Entities have definitely incarnated more often in recent times than in past eras.

Not only are 60 million human monads available, but if necessary a soul can project himself into two physical bodies at one time. This means technically that more than sixty million human lives could be in incarnation, though I expect a reduction and stabilizing of the number of souls here in the future.

Robert Monroe, who was famous for his out of body teachings, tells us that when out of the body he once met an advanced entity who told him that his soul had another entity in incarnation and asked if he would like to know who he was so he could look him up. He declined as he thought it would just be too weird to meet another one of him.

Michael Newton regressed about 3000 people into the between life state had numerous people recount that at times their souls had two projections into physical incarnation. This is the exception rather than the rule.

Self conscious humans have been in the earth for 18 million years and many civilizations have come and gone so there has been a lot of opportunity for those available to incarnate.

I doubt if we will ever see more than 30 billion people on this planet at one time as I think we need half of us back in the other realms to balance things off. If there is ever a need for additional souls they could be pulled from other planets. Right now a small handful are from outside of this solar system, but that could change. If we turned this earth into a peaceful paradise a lot of extra terrestrial souls would volunteer to come here.

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JJ,

If we turned this earth into a peaceful paradise a lot of extra terrestrial souls would volunteer to come here.

Blayne

So if we do all the hard work a bunch of free loaders will come and reap the benefits of the paradise we created… 😉

That is kind of what happened with the USA. The founders went through blood sweat and tears to create a great country and then when they are born in this age they discover that it is taken over by freeloaders that have no idea of what real sacrifice is.

I would think that government in the higher sphere’s works much better and the only outsiders permitted in would be those who have something to offer rather than just something to take.

The 30 billion refused to incarnate because of the great difficulties they saw ahead in the great struggle. They wanted to wait until the pioneers turned the earth into a paradise and then incarnate after the hard work had been done. But the tables were turned on them and they are denied the privilege of incarnating for millions of years. Goes to show that one needs to beware of what he asks for.

May 13, 2015

More Synthesis

I did some surfing on the web and gathered contact information on a couple dozen groups that may be good to work with on the synthesis project. Then I stumbled across a way to gather many hundreds of possible groups and influential people. So far only one person has expressed interest in helping with the project.

I’ve been thinking of the best way to put this together and thought of doing something like a Huffington Post for New Agers instead of politics. If someone associates with us they could post their writings, videos or events on the web page. If it became popular we could sell ads. Perhaps lwk will have some thoughts on putting this together.

We tried something like a Drudge Report for New Agers and that didn’t take off, but it is likely to be more successful if we can draw others in to participate.

I’ve been thinking of the simplest criteria possible for maximum inclusiveness while still being a draw for lights. Here are a couple.

(1) I do not condemn anyone who does not subscribe to my belief system but am as inclusive as possible to all sincere seekers of the spiritual path. Another seeker may have a different approach than me but still may be making significant progress.

(2) I realize that some true seekers are conservative and some liberal, some believe in reincarnation and some do not and have a variety of beliefs about God and spiritual things that differ from my own. I can still love them and work with them on points of agreement.

(3) I realize that the most important qualities for fellow seekers are that they follow the highest they know, love their fellow men and women and are sincerely seeking to serve others so they can do their part in improving this planet for generations to come.

May 17, 2015

Interesting. I’ve never really thought too deeply about time.. So how do different speeds of time coexist? Is it just relative to whom is experiencing it in their element? Can we experience time slowed down or sped up in the human form?

Thanks

Leasel

It is not that different speeds of time co-exist, but it is the different registrations of time which do so. You and the fly co-exist, but register time differently. You register time differently in sleep or meditation because how your grasp of passing images and sensations has changed. You can slow down or speed up time in meditation if you go deep enough.

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Leasel:

So how do different speeds of time coexist? Is it just relative to whom is experiencing it in their element? Can we experience time slowed down or sped up in the human form?

It is not so much that different speeds of time co-exist, but that different states of consciousness that register it at different rates exist.

Have you ever watched time-lapsed pictures of a flower unfolding? Here you see two or three days of time in maybe a minute. This gives you an entirely different perspective of time speeding up. Here is a great video using time lapsed photography that gives us an idea of what it would be like living in a state of consciousness with time having been greatly sped up.

LINK

Now imagine living in the same state of consciousness as our planet earth where one heart beat equals about 25,000 years. You would then see that the solar system is not just some static creation, but a living one with planets and moons interplaying with each other. A billion year time lapse of the solar system would be interesting to watch.

On the other hand, tiny lives move so fast that they would be a mere blur for us to watch. An example would be some marine life. In this video a photographer had to use high speed photography and then put together frames to slow down time about ten times so we in our time frame can see what is happening. Take a look:

LINK

Now if we could photograph an atom we would have to slow time down more than a billion times to see anything that is happening within it.

Scientists are perplexed at how so much happened in the first second of he Big Bang. What they do not realize is that the consciousness of God adjusted itself to time in the microcosmic world and it went through billions of years of time in that first second. That is how the complicated foundation of our universe happened so quickly from our perspective.

We can experience time in different modes in human form. As I said you are in a different time mode when you sleep or enter deep meditation. Time is also altered by your heartbeat. The faster your heart beats the slower time goes. If you want to test this just time yourself running (accelerating your heartbeat) for ten minutes. After you do this, rest on the couch for ten minutes. Then ask yourself, didn’t the ten minutes of running seem to last longer?

May 19, 2015

New Heaven and Earth

“If we overcome all things concerning the lower nature then we can qualify to live in this new heaven and new earth.”

Ruth:

Is this new Heaven and Earth established, when the Earth dies and reincarnates again?

That was not what I was talking about, but that is one of he interpretations of the scripture. One day, billions of years from now the earth will die and be reborn and there will be literally a new heaven and new earth.

As it is I was talking about a future time on this earth where the scripture allegorically comes true as follows:

After those who have not manifested the God within have been removed from the earth and no longer incarnate, a new heaven (consciousness) and new earth (government & organizational structures) manifests.

May 21, 2015

Questions of Light and Dark

Ruth

I have a few more questions in regards to Hitler………

a) you have said that the Dark Lord of Atlantis overshadowed Hitler in Atlantis.

I have said that Hitler was overshadowed by a dark lord and that Hitler was an enemy of light in Atlantis. I do not recall saying he was overshadowed in Atlantis though he could have been.

I believe the Dark Brotherhood have mostly evolved from this planet though they may have some contact with dark intelligence from other systems.

Ruth

So where did the Dark Lord of Atlantis come from? Another planet, or was he the fallen Angel from Venus or was he from the previous Earth and Universe, or was he the head Jewish leader who was on Earth before the Ancient of Days, or was he the head Serpent of the Serpent race?

The main fallen Lucifer, or Son of the Morning, came here with the ancient of days and his kingdom basically consists of fallen earth entities. Anything beyond this I cannot give any details.

I believe that the overshadowing Lord of Hitler was the fallen Lucifer, or Angel of the Morning.

Ruth:

Why was he allowed to be on Earth and walk the Earth, in a physical body at the same time that the Brotherhood of Light Masters walked the Earth in physical bodies?

Any being who is designated for this earth can incarnate when he wants to provided a body is available to meet his vibration. If one takes the dark path then his vibration may become too low to incarnate unless the vibration of the planet is lowered.

Ruth:

3) Did the Brotherhood of Light “create” the Dark Lord of Atlantis, because they interfered too much with humanity, and then because they gave out too much soul “magic” knowledge, then this had the reverse effect, and created a monster, which turned against them, and that is why they lost the War in Atlantis, something like they helped too much by giving out higher principles too soon, which then developed black magic because it was infused with the Lunar Lords’ energy or vibrations?

We all create our own fate but the dark lords did use much of the knowledge given out for their own selfish ends.

Ruth

When do we get to know the real truth? (about Atlantis and ancient history)

Each of us can only do so much depending on where we place our focus. In this life I place my focus on principles that can be implemented for the further evolution and security of the race. I haven’t placed a lot of attention on our ancient history, but may do this in a future life when the planet is more stable. There is lot of false information channeled about our history, but it is quite possible someone may come forward with one that is truly accurate. I would guess that DK will give additional details when he teaches again after 2025.

You ask who is the voice that spoke to Hitler and the voice of God when it speaks.

The fallen Lucifer most likely worked through Hitler and he thought this was God. A person’s own Higher Self usually represents the voice of God to him.

Ruth

It seems that for centuries the Brotherhood of Light has been trying to “seal the door where evil dwells”, which was opened in ancient Atlantis, perhaps? And who let evil in?

It is the consciousness of humanity that allows the door of evil to be open. Even though we are not perfect the door is under control when the teachers of light dominate, but this situation has been rare. What will close the door is the rising of the consciousness of humanity as a whole. This is the present goal.

Ruth

You know JJ, if you wrote the real story about Atlantis, this book would become a best seller.

It will be written some day and it will indeed be a best seller.

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Reaping and Sowing

Ken:

Concerning karma? Why does everyone have to stand before the “judgment seat” of Messiah IF they are to be judged by or through “karma” in making up for or being rewarded for everything they did while existing in the flesh?

If you think the judgment consists of, first dying, then going into oblivion until God reconstructs the righteous and the wicked to literally stand before him and then watch the wicked after being shamed and burned back into oblivion by fire then you are going to feel pretty silly after you die, discover you are not unconscious, and that those who do not believe as you will not be dissolved.

We are judged after death by our own Christ-linked souls which are linked to God. So it is true that we are judged by Christ and God, but not in the literal way imagined by Bible literalists.

Ken

So again, WHY is there a belief in “karma” when it clearly states that all will be raised to Stand BEFORE Elohim to be judged according to their works?

We die and then are judged according to our karma, which is merely the principle of reaping what we sow, and then, after a period in the spirit world, we are sent back into another body to fulfill that judgment.

Here are some comments on this subject:

WHATSOEVER A MAN SOWETH

Paul tells us plainly that all will not attain the resurrection of life. He said “the wages of sin is death”. When we sin we need correction so we are sent to the resurrection of KRISIS where we are again in mortal bodies subjected to death. Paul further said: “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God (sin), him shall God DESTROY; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.” I Cor 3:16-17.

Those who continue to sin and suffer the resurrection of KRISIS are reborn and live a mortal existence where their temple of God (their body) dies or is destroyed. Interestingly “destroy” comes from the Greek PHTHIO which means “to waste, spoil, or decay”. That certainly describes the mortality we experience in the resurrection of KRISIS.

It is only fitting that Paul said that “the last enemy to be destroyed is death.” I Cor 15:26. This is because we are born again and again into the resurrection of KRISIS until we have corrected all of our mistakes. The very last correction we make is when we overcome death and “put on immortality”.

Jesus admonished us to follow in his footsteps: “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, EVEN AS I ALSO OVERCAME, and am sat down with the Father in his throne.” Rev. 3:21 If we are to overcome as did Jesus then we must obey the injunction: “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” Matt 5:48 I do not know of even one person who has attained perfection and overcome all things as did Jesus. Consequently, the only way the scriptures can be fulfilled is for one to be physically born again until he can live a life without sin just as Jesus did. Those in the kingdom of man must literally be “born again” to enter the kingdom of God.

When that happens the promise will be fulfilled where Jesus said: “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and HE SHALL GO NO MORE OUT.” Rev. 3:12 We will have to “go no more out” of one physical body into another- one when we have overcome all things.

Until that time Jesus tells us that “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, (of physical bodies), and find pasture.” John 10:9.

After we go in and out and find pasture the time will come when: “he that overcometh and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I GIVE POWER OVER THE NATIONS: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: EVEN AS I RECEIVED OF MY FATHER.” Rev. 2:26-27

These scriptures we have quoted make it very clear that there are two resurrections. We enter the resurrection of KRISIS each time we fall short of the glory of Christ. When this happens God causes our bodies to be destroyed. He asks us to “overcome” “even as I overcame”. Obviously we cannot overcome AS he did unless we will eventually live a perfect life as he did on the Earth.

Jesus said that we will do “greater works” than he did. John 14:12. To this day I know of no one who has done greater works than Jesus, but when the time comes that some of us are living our last life to “attain” the resurrection of life, then will the world see these greater works. At that time we will come to the “knowledge of the Son of God, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, unto the-measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.” Eph 4:13. When one becomes “a perfect man” he then receives “power over the nations” as promised.

Reincarnation is merely the result of the law of cause and effect as pointed out by Paul: ‘if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For every man shall bear his own burden. Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that SHALL HE ALSO REAP. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh REAP CORRUPTION (the resurrection of KRISIS or rebirth in mortality); but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap LIFE EVERLASTING” (or the resurrection of life).. Gal 6:3-6.

Again we have here a vivid description of the two resurrections. The word “corruption” here comes from the Greek PHTHORA which is derived from PHTHEIRO the word that is used when Paul said that God shall “destroy” the defiled temples. PHTHORA indicates a state of “decay”. Thus Paul is simply telling us over and over again that if our mind is centered on carnal things we will return not to some state of immortality, but will “reap corruption” or decay.

Paul even goes so far as to warn us to not be deceived for God is not mocked on this matter. He further says that “flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the kingdom of God; neither doeth corruption (obviously referred to here as flesh and blood) inherit incorruption.” I Cor 15:50.

Here the “corruption” that we reap is, identified as “flesh and blood”. This is only logical since all flesh and blood is proceeding toward death and decay. After all Paul said that the corruption would be reaped “of the flesh”.

Since flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God that simply means that if we fall short of it we will be “born again” in this state of “corruption” or flesh and blood. Flesh and blood is the resurrection of KRISIS and we must come back again and a gain and inherit this corruption until we have “corrected” all of our mistakes and attain the resurrection of life or “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.” Eph 4:13

Jesus was subtly referring to the resurrection of KRISIS when he said: “Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.” Matt 5:26

No orthodox Christian has ever answered this question: If we reap according to how we have sowed and if we “of the flesh reap corruption” and we die before we have reaped all that is due us, then how can we reap “of the flesh” with no flesh? How can we reap corruption if there is no corruption?

The only answer is reincarnation. We must return to mortality if we are to reap corruption in the flesh. Is there another way to fulfill the scripture without mocking God? Verily no.

The principle of reaping as we sow is repeated many times in the Bible. Jesus said: “ALL they that take the sword shall PERISH with the sword.” Matt 26:52. Now it is obvious that many people in history have slain with the sword, yet died a peaceful death. Why then did Jesus use the word “all”? Why did he say these words to Peter in an effort to get him to put away his sword and cease his attack on the angry mob? Obviously, if Peter went forth and killed with the sword then he would have to reap what he sowed and come back (even if it was a future life) and reap destruction by a sword or some similar destructive weapon.

This is confirmed in the thirteenth chapter of Revelations where we are told about the Anti-Christ who will slay all those who will not worship his image and will have power over the Saints. Here the saints are told why they must suffer: “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword MUST be killed with the sword. HERE IS THE PATIENCE AND THE FAITH OF THE SAINTS.” Rev 13:10

In other words, the reason the patience and the faith of the saints is tested so is because of mistakes they made in past lives. In previous lives they killed with the sword as Peter wanted to do. They also lead others into captivity even as did Paul before his conversion. Thus when the saints are persecuted they are often reaping what they have sowed in previous lives. This answers the eternal question as to why some of the best people must suffer so. They are paying off debts from a past era when they were not so good. When one becomes a disciple of Christ he must pay the “utter most farthing”, for Jesus said: “Everyone shall be salted with fire.” Mark 9:49

This principle was further emphasized by the Lord’s own mouth to Noah: “And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, BY MAN SHALL HIS BLOOD BE SHED: for in the image of God made he man.” Gen 9:5-6

Of course, there have been many who have shed blood who have not reaped what they have sowed. But remember “God will not be mocked” and let the person escape the punishment he has decreed. He will be reborn and “of the flesh” reap his just reward with interest.

The principle of rebirth also helps us to understand the dialog that God had with Cain: [God said to Cain:] “A fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth… [And Cain said:] I shall be a fugitive and vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that everyone that findeth me shall slay me.” Gen 4:12-14

Notice here that Cain expects to be slain more than once. Also study the Lord’s response: “And the Lord said unto him, therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him SEVENFOLD. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.” Gen 4:15

There are several things that do not make sense here without re incarnation. First, Cain was told he would be a fugitive and vagabond in the earth, but instead the scripture tells us that he settled in the land of Nod and built a city named Enoch. (See Gen 4:16-17) It sounds as if Cain was fairly settled in that life. One would have to stretch the imagination to call him a fugitive and vagabond in the earth so how could the decree of God be fulfilled? Reincarnation is a possible answer. It’s quite probable that Cain has been reborn a number of times and has been a vagabond in the earth more than once.

Cain also made the interesting statement: “Everyone, that findeth me shall slay me.” indicating he expected to be slain more than once. But the scriptures give no indication that Cain died other than a natural death in that life.

Finally we are told that whoever kills Cain will have vengeance taken on him “sevenfold”. The question arises: How do you take seven fold vengeance on murder? If a killer is put to death then the vengeance is merely onefold; yet, short of torture, that is the worst punishment that can be inflicted. Taking this into consideration how else can the Lord take vengeance “sevenfold” on murder unless the man gives his life seven times?

In other words, if a man kills Cain, or possibly one of his descendants, thinking he deserves it then he would have to forfeit his life in seven different lifetimes to pay for the deed. That seems like a stiff punishment, but we probably do not know the whole story here.

We are told that a terrible reaping will be given out to those who change the revelations of God: “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book (the book of Revelations), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall ADD unto him THE PLAGUES that are written in this book. Rev. 22:18

Now for an interesting question… Why did John warn those in the first century that if they added extra words to his book that they would suffer the plagues, which plagues would not come upon the earth for another two thousand years? How could a scribe living in the first century (who commits the sin of adding words to John’s book) suffer the plagues unless he were here reborn thousands of years later?

The plagues from the Book of Revelation include such things as men dying of waters that are polluted, men being killed by the symbolic beast, men being scorched by the heat of the sun. people receiving sores over their bodies and numerous others.

How could a person from the first century possibly receive these physical plagues unless he is here, born again in a physical body???

We also find that those who have shed the blood of saints and the prophets in past ages will come back and suffer the plagues: “And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and upon the fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. FOR THEY HAVE SHED THE BLOOD OF SAINTS AND PROPHETS, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.” Rev. 16:4-6

It seems only fair that those who have shed the blood of the prophets through the ages will have to come back and reap the harvest of their deeds by drinking blood in a future lifetime.

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