June 23, 2014
The Fifth Key
We had a great gathering with a lot of fresh faces. The Principle of Glory is now out there. For those who were not at the gathering here is an additional hint.
Question:
Who is it that can give glory and what is the only way it can be created?
June 25, 2014
The Fifth Key Revealed
Here is the latest hint:
Who is it that can give glory and what is the only way it can be created?
To this Assaf gave the closest answer:
“The ones who see the accomplished creation can give glory to the one who accomplished it, to the creator, whoever it may be.”
That is pretty close to the principle. What Assaf saw here is that the Principle of Glory may have nothing to do with God, but one who creates (God, angel or man) and the one who recognizes the glory of the creation.
Here is the principle of Glory:
One cannot give glory to himself, but depends upon others besides himself for any recognition he receives.
The group kept making the mistake of saying that only God can create glory, but this is not true. God could have created the whole universe and if there were no living being in it who appreciated the creation there would have been no glory. Not even God could pat himself on the back and given Himself glory. If he were alone there would be no evidence that the creation would be seen as a thing of value by another living being.
Let us say that Stephen King gave a speech saying, “I am one of the greatest writers who has ever been born and you’d better appreciate that.”
Would that enhance his glory as a writer?
No.
It would take away from it. People in the audience would think, “What a jerk!”
On the other hand, if a respected person introduced King and said, “Here is Stephen King, one of the greatest writers ever born, and he deserves our appreciation.” What would be the response? The audience would agree and his glory would be enhanced.
The story of Moses not giving glory to God illustrates that God himself cannot give glory to himself and depends upon others to do it. In the work that God and Moses were doing together God depended on Moses giving him credit where credit was due. Moses smote the rock and took credit for the water coming forth and violated the principle which is sacred, especially among the higher lives. God calls himself a jealous God because even He depends on others for glory and does not want others to deceptively take credit when the credit is due to Him.
In the parable of the best seats the guest tried to take glory to himself by taking the most honored seat. But he had no power to take the glory to himself. The host ordered him to take the lowest seat and placed someone else there.
John 7:18 “He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true.”
This very clearly illustrates the principle that you cannot be glorified by seeking it for yourself, but must be glorified by another. Jesus realized that he was to give glory to God and in return God would glorify him. Neither Jesus or the Father could glorify themselves.
If we want glory and recognition we cannot demand it for ourselves but must wait for others to give it. If you do what you consider to be a great work and no one says anything then there is no glory. You cannot rectify the situation by demanding to be recognized. The only solution is to enhance the work until someone does recognize it and gives glory. After glory is given by one then others usually follow.
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Sorin:
Sorry, but this so-called principle is plain common sense, and has nothing profound in it.
JJ
Then obviously you do not understand it with its implications. The highest of us all, the Christ, saw the profoundness of the principle and often talked about it.
Sorin:
If anything, it is so broad in definition (glory = external/public recognition)
JJ
You are not enunciating the Principle of Glory so obviously you do not understand it. The principle has little to do with the definition of glory as you just related.
Sorin:
that it actually encourages cult leaders and other delusional folks to think they are actually receiving glory because they are worshiped by ignorant people…
JJ
The principle has nothing to do with cult leaders and only worship as far as God is concerned. You are really confused here.
Sorin
This looks more like the principle of idolatry than the principle of glory.
JJ
So if you think someone does a good job and you tell them so you are them practicing idolatry? Strange reasoning indeed. I guess you are not an idolater then for I do not see much praise coming from you for anything to anyone.
Sorin:
There are people that received no external recognition but they are maybe more glorious than anyone else out there, anonymous people that sacrificed themselves for truth and justice.
JJ
This statement tells us you do not understand the principle which you just called “plain common sense.” There is no glory without recognition. Glory is created from the consciousness of intelligent lives. As I said, if God created the universe and there was no one in it to praise or appreciate the work then he would have no glory. You cannot glorify yourself. Thinking that a work deserves glory does not glory make. Many have sacrificed themselves for a cause and received no glory because no good was produced by the sacrifice.
June 26, 2014
Re: The Fifth Key Revealed
Ruth:
So, a molecule is activated only when someone gives glory to others in that molecule? Is that what this principle means?
JJ
Glory has nothing to do with the activation of a molecule. It is activated by the members achieving unity through soul contact, and being accepted by the Christ. The violation of the Principle of Glory could hinder group soul contact though.
Tom:
Thomas Kinkade never received glory for the great artwork he has done as most people put his artwork down…maybe he received glory from a few that
liked his work but most people hated his artwork and would not give him glory…what do you say to this,
JJ
I do not recall anyone here saying anything negative about your artwork.
All of us, whether high or low, must do the same thing with our work. We must do our best at creation and then present it to the people and let them decide. If they give us glory we will feel everything was worthwhile. If they say negative things or ignore the work then the creator must reassess his work and either work to improve or change direction.
Believe me… I have done many things for which I have received no glory and if I did not just accept the response and move on the effect on me would have been negative. Sometimes an attempt at a work that receives little recognition in one life is preparation for great recognition in a future life.
Tom
What if someone was working behind the scenes and helped create stuff for Steve Jobs that he later used for the computer but he never gave him any credit and took the credit for him self. This unknown person received no glory for helping to initiate the computer.
JJ
If you’re working at the creative level at Apple you are probably making over $200,000 a year. That is pretty hefty recognition for your contribution. A company does not pay that kind of money unless it recognizes a person’s talent.
A new product coming on the market is usually the result of the hundreds if not thousands of cooperating minds and rarely does the company list them all. If it is a fair company the management will do it’s best to acknowledge the contribution of its various employees.
Now if Steve Jobs had lied and stated he created an improvement when someone else was behind it then he would have been violating the Principle of Glory. When something like this happens in a company there are usually people who do know the truth and acknowledge the work.
Even if someone else takes credit for a work the creator still receives glory when people praise the creation because the creator will know that they are praising something he initiated.
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Duke:
I must be missing something,
The way the story reads to me, Moses was not intentionally deceptive…
JJ
No one said that Moses was intentionally deceptive, but when he gave the impression that the power was his then he was thoughtlessly deceptive.
Duke:
but rather committed a social faux pas by not taking the time to explain that God deserved the credit.
JJ
It wasn’t that he was expected to give a sermon on it. God expected Moses to not take credit. After all Moses said,
“Listen to me, you rebels. Must we get water out of this rock for you? Moses raised his hand and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed out in abundance and they all drank, men and beasts.”
If Moses had merely said something like “God will create water for us” he would have kept out of trouble. Instead God saw a violation of the Principle of Glory, which Moses understood, and “the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, ‘You did not trust me so far as to uphold my holiness in the sight of the Israelites; therefore you shall not lead this assembly into the land which I promised to give them.’” Numbers 20:10-13 NEV
Duke:
I also don’t see where God let him know he’d screwed up and gave him a chance to apologize and correct his mistake either; maybe he did and Moses refused, but I kinda doubt it.
JJ
He made it plain that Moses screwed up in the above verse. Moses did not lose his reward but the Principle of Glory is so sacred to the higher lives that God did not want to take the chance of Moses assuming unearned glory to himself again and thus falling into darkness. For the rest of his life Moses got to practice the Principle of Glory but suffered the effect by not entering the promised land.
As it was, Moses received great recognition:
And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face. Deut 34:10
As disciples to enter the promised land of full soul contact we must consistently practice the Principle of Glory for as soon as we assume unearned glory a cloud of darkness descends which is difficult to lift.
Duke:
Must admit I’m not really impressed with this God that Moses was busting his butt to serve and then Moses uses the wrong wording and God holds it against him for the rest of his life.
JJ
Suppose you wrote a book that you were really proud of and you gave the book to a trusted friend to share with a group. Then you find out the friend makes the claim that he wrote the book and takes credit for it’s contents. You may not write the friend off forever, but you would be offended and not trust him again until he has proven himself over a period of time.
We are in the image of God and if we want to understand God we must understand ourselves and when our glory is taken by another we become angry. So do the higher lives on their own level.
Before the Principle of Glory is understood in its fullness the inclination is to think it is small minded to desire appropriate glory be given, but it is not small minded at all for without the implementation of this principle creation would come to a halt and the glory or God would cease to be.
Duke:
So does God really need his pats on the back, and does he really get that indignant when he doesn’t get them?
JJ
All life forms in the universe need this, even God. Truth is the core principle guiding higher lives and the Principle of Glory can only be violated with deception. To uphold truth, the Principle of Glory must apply. There is much more to it than desiring a pat on the back. If that is all one sees he does not understand the principle.
Duke:
Should we be like that too, and punish the people in our lives who fail to give us the glory we feel we deserve?
JJ
You are not seeing this correctly. That is not the problem. The problem is not receiving glory for what we feel we deserve but what we do actually deserve.
If I think a book I write is a masterpiece and you think it is a piece of junk and say so then you have not violated the Principle of Glory just because I think the book is good. I would accept that and allow you your opinion, as I should. But if you read the book and think, “This is great, I wish I would have thought of this,” and then proceed to present the book, or its original ideas, as if you wrote it yourself, then you are stealing my glory and I would be upset and would not trust you for some time.
Duke:
Yes I understand that credit should be properly given, but how pissed off should we be, and for how long should we hold our grudges, if we feel slighted?
JJ
I have had people steal my ideas numerous times and do not feel a grudge but do not trust the person in this area until he can prove he is willing to follow the Principle of Glory.
No one likes to be stolen from and the stealing of intellectual or spiritual property is seen as a much greater violation than the stealing of a physical commodity. Artists, for instance, are very upset when someone plagiarizes their songs or writings. This is why we have copyright laws which uphold the Principle of Glory.
Ruth
God still needs help in uplifting his lower self.
JJ
The Principle of Glory applies to higher and lower selves. Upholding truth is universal and applies to all planes of existence.
Greg Anderson’s Account of a Past Life Regression at the Gathering
June 22, 2014
Past Life Regression
By Greg Anderson
As part of the Gathering of Lights 2014 JJ Dewey did a past life regression exercise with the group. He began by having each in the group relax and then placed us in a deeper state of conscious hypnosis. He took us to our most recent past life. As I tried to view and understand what I was looking at, I saw a deep blue view before me. I thought it might be the sky, but there was little recognition or confirmation of what it was I was seeing
I next had a very brief view of a city in rural America much like what I imagined in pioneer days or seen in western movies. Inside I was straining to clarify the picture, but it would not budge. I felt hopeless in trying to see. To my surprise, JJ then went further and had us as a group; go deeper in thought and to see our next life. At his suggestion I was there. I could sense and see where I was. I was hiding in a wooded area a small distance from a military fort, and I knew instantly that I was a spy. I was looking upon the troop movements of the British army. I was thrilled. I had actually seen something. The feeling was profound. The visions was clear.
At about this time JJ chose to bring us out of the deep meditative thought and we were then brought back to the present. JJ then went around the room and questioned each as to what they experienced and saw. I shared with him, and the group, what I relayed above. After JJ visited with each person regarding their experience, he came back to me and asked me to come forward. He sat a single chair in the midst of the group, and had me sit down. JJ took me back to the deep meditative state and the life two times before.
I found myself back in the forested area looking upon the movement of the British troops. I knew instantly why I was there. I would record what I saw and then in code I would send the information to Washington and the Continental Army. I then saw that I was spotted by a patrol, chased down and captured. JJ asked me if I knew George Washington. This brought forth a flood of memories. I shared with the group that I indeed did know George Washington. I knew him very well. We lived in proximity of each other.
He asked me what I knew of the character of George Washington. My memories knew him to be honorable and a good man. JJ asked me if he was perceived as such by others in the area. The memories came forth and I shared that there were those within the area that were loyal to the crown and did not trust Washington. JJ asked me about my conversations with Washington. I remembered that they were of the finest conversations; much of what we discussed rang true to my soul. I had developed a trustworthy relationship with Washington. As the time came and war broke out, I was asked by Washington to be a part of a special group that was to gather information regarding the enemy and their movement. JJ asked me “What then.” My memories went back to my capture. I was questioned and beaten for two days as to Washington’s movements and plans. I did not respond. I did not yield, for I knew I held in my hands the lives of many friends.
On the morning of the third day I was dragged before a wall to be shot. I arose slowly as my broken body would allow in an act of last defiance. At this point tremendous fear flooded back to my memory. I began to weep as I continued relaying what I remembered. There were six muskets aimed at me. I looked into the eyes of each of my executioners, and then closed my eyes. JJ asked me what happened after I left my body.
Where did I go? I remembered a great peace that came over me. I was brought before an entity. I only remember the form and the intense light. A review of my life took place. JJ asked me how many people were there at the review. My memory could only recall two. JJ asked me what they looked like, but I could not gather any further clarity other than a form with great light. JJ then asked me what was the conversation between me and the entities. The memories came forth that in the review of my life that I had been sent to learn and manifest courage in the face of adversity. I remember being very disappointed that I was not able to help in the further cause of independence. I did however have satisfaction and peace regarding my purpose in this round.
JJ asked me what I knew of the outcome of the time regarding the war for independence. After searching for the right words to answer his question, it basically was that I knew that the probable outcome would be successful. JJ then asked “What then?” I remember planning with these entities my next round and what was need for my development, but also in furthering the cause of light. JJ asked me if I had ever been with these two other beings in carnation? The overwhelming feeling was yes! Who they are or were, I cannot clarify in my memories.
JJ then asked me to go ahead to a time between lives. He asked if it was a reunion with friends. I did not recall that. I remember the desire I had in my heart to be in the presence of those I considered to be Gods. I remember finding great love and solace in being with them for a time. JJ asked me if I had any birthmarks. I shared with him I did, and JJ indicated that they often indicate trauma from past lives.
At this point JJ brought me back to the present consciousness. At this point I was conscious in the present, but I was also still seeing this past life. Members of the group asked some questions which I tried to answer. The gathering was closed, we said our good byes to those who were not going to dinner with us, and left for the restaurant. However, as I was traveling with my wife and companions to the restaurant, a very profound experience then took place, with an extraordinary exchange between me and persons from that era, whom I had associated with regarding some instruction for the remaining time I had on earth.
I won’t share in this forum the remainder of those events, but it reaffirmed to me the doctrine of eternal lives and the principle of re-incarnation. I am indeed very grateful to Artie and JJ for the gathering and the time and efforts that were spent to help make me a better person. I feel very fortunate to have made many new friends, whom I can honestly say that I love. There is a familiarity with them that goes beyond this past weekend’s activities. To some this may seem like nonsense. To me it was very real, and I think those in the group that experienced it with me can attest to the extraordinary spirit that was with us.
June 27, 2014
Re: The Fifth Key Revealed
JJ Quote
“Many have sacrificed themselves for a cause and received no glory because no good was produced by the sacrifice”
Sorin
What about those that sacrificed themselves but there was nobody around to observe the good produced? Maybe they received the unseen glory of God.
JJ
Such people could not glory themselves but any sacrifice that accomplishes something good is seen and appreciated by someone, either in this world or the next, and thus the person receives recognition and glory.
Sorin:
Your principle is:
“One cannot give glory to himself, but depends upon others besides himself for any recognition he receives.”
My question is how does this principle help you discern between false and true glory?
For instance, you see glory for Bush when he started the war in Iraq, but I see false glory and accuse him of murder.
JJ
False glory is that which is forced upon people as has happened with tyrants such as Hitler, Stalin, Kim Jong Un etc. Here people have to praise their leader or go to jail, or be killed. Praise given in that situation is not real praise but truly false glory.
If praise is given freely then it is not false glory but sincere praise. Now, there are many situations in life where the decision to praise, be apathetic or condemn is a judgment call. Moses was not praised by everyone and I’m sure there were a number who though he was guilty of lots of sin including murder. His own brother and sister judged him to be unworthy because he killed an Egyptian, but Jehovah affirmed (gave glory) that he was the man for the job.
Most everyone who receives glory for something that is a judgment call does not receive accolades from all. Some people even hate the Beatles but since a high percentage give them glory they will go down in history in a positive way. The fact that some hate the Beatles does not take away from the glory given by those who like them.
Even so with Bush. The fact that you do not approve does not take away from the sincere glory of those who praise him for certain actions.
Some time from now the world may see Bush in a much different light than they do now just as we now see Truman in a much better light than those did who lived under his administration.
The main point of the Principle of Glory is not to get everyone to agree or disagree that a certain action is good but that glory comes from sincere praise and recognition from somewhere else besides the creator of the action or work. The one responsible for the work should get the recognition (good or bad) and not another. Glory should not be stolen.
Believe me if Bush had found lots of WMD people on both sides of the aisle would have been lining up to share the glory. When glory is achieved people come out of the woodwork to take or share credit when no credit is deserved.
Sorin
I use the principle “Judge a man by his actions”, and consider the evidence out there.
JJ
That is what everyone tries to do, not just you, but different opinions are formed and for every action some give glory and some do not.
Whether or not an action or a teaching is good or bad is a judgment call and the closer it is to the will of God the more glory the person will eventually have. Jesus only had 200 people to give him glory after the resurrection while the world condemned him, but now billions give him glory. Even though a small number still do not give him glory he is probably the most glorified person in our history.
It is definitely true that Bush was responsible for taking us into the war with Iraq and deserves the recognition, pro and con, for that action. It is also true that John Lennon wrote the song Imagine and deserves to be recognized for that. By following the Principle of Glory the ones who are responsible for an action get the glory or the condemnation. If someone plagiarized Lennon’s work then he would be violating the Principle of Glory.
Sorin;
Secondly, how does your principle add more to the standard definition of glory?
JJ
It doesn’t. Why would you ask a question that has nothing to do with the Principle of Glory? People already know what glory, praise and recognition is. We do not have to add to it. Obviously you are not looking for the principle.
Sorin:
The meaning of glory already presupposes the idea of recognition by others. That’s the simple meaning of the term. It’s common sense.
JJ
All principles are simple and appeal to the common sense. The key to understand the principle has nothing to do with understanding the definition that everyone already knows but in realizing that you cannot give glory to yourself or obtaining it by demand or theft. It must be voluntarily given by others. Even God would have no glory without us voluntarily giving it to him.
Sorin
How can you tell between a good job and a bad job if only the good job should receive glory? Your glory principle ignores this point…
JJ
No it doesn’t. Through deception a person can obtain temporary glory for a bad job but when the final results are seen the job can be more correctly assessed. For instance, Obama started out in a blaze of glory which is quickly diminishing because of poor results. Bush is now more popular than Obama according to Gallup.
After we leave this world the true quality of a person’s work will be much more accurately seen and there the right people will receive just glory.
Sorin
I am not saying that your definition is wrong, what I am saying is that it adds no new understanding to the concept of glory.
JJ
I do not believe I have defined it because everyone knows what praise and glory is. You are missing the principle. When you see it vistas of understanding will open before you as it has for many who see a glimpse of the keys of decision and judgment – two other key words of which everyone knows the definition.
I will post the audio on it soon. Maybe that will help.
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Sorin:
Both you and JJ get so upset sometimes, which is surprising for honest seekers of truth.
JJ
It does not mean that I am upset just because I disagree with you. If we used that criteria it would mean you are upset all the time. You have no power to upset me.
Sorin quoting JJ
Glory should not be stolen. […]
Sorin
The issue is not that people steal glory because they don’t know what your principle of glory is, they know what glory is.
JJ
You need to argue with what I say not with what I do not say. Of course that is not “the issue.”
Sorin:
They steal it because they are jealous and want the glory of the truly glorious one.
JJ
Agreed. And your point is?
Sorin:
Your principle doesn’t help much in convincing people not to steal glory.
JJ
That is not the main benefit of understanding the principle, though such understanding does make one more sensitive to all the ways it can be stolen. When one realizes how important this principle is to higher lives then seekers will take it to heart with more intent and be more assiduous in not violating it. I know that such understanding had that effect on me.
However, the main benefit is in seeing how glory is obtained and then taking the correct path to receive it.
Obviously, most people do not understand the principle as the majority go the wrong direction numerous times in attempting to receive recognition and glory.
Sorin:
The principle of karma is a much more effective principle in preventing people from stealing glory.
JJ
The Principle of Karma is the root of all other principles so the understanding of this naturally leads to more correct behavior. BUT the more we understand branch principles related to karma (cause and effect) the better we can control the outcome of this and future lives. If one attempts to create his own glory it will have the effect of reducing glory. This is karma in action.
Sorin:
True glory should be given to God, not to himself, because creativity is a gift from God not a self concoction.
JJ
So if one practices all his life to master the violin are you saying the guy should get absolutely no recognition for the great effort that creates a performance that people enjoy? God himself in the scriptures gives glory to those who perform well and it is a correct principle for humans to do this also.
Sorin
It’s kind of a false dichotomy. You don’t need a principle for this to happen, it happens automatically…
JJ
All principles work automatically. What else is new?
Sorin
Well, maybe because your principle is not really a principle, and only repeats the definition of glory?
JJ
This has obviously gone over your head. The people in the Keys had weeks to guess the principle and over and over I told them that the definition of glory was not the principle. Now I have told you this in my recent posts and you still do not get it. After many attempts no one here got the principle so it is obviously not so obvious as you seem to think.
There is an insight here that has never been presented to the world before and as evidence of that you can use Google all you want and not find it. You can find lots of definitions of the word glory but you cannot find anyone teaching the principle and it’s implications – of which there is more to come.
Sorin
Everything you say is fair, but it’s nothing new or illuminating.
JJ
Okay, find someone else teaching the principle. You may find others teaching ingredients but not the whole principle, which has gone over your head, and when you argue with me you keep going back to the definition of glory rather than talking about the principle and it’s implications.
Nothing any teacher says is entirely new but sometimes new insights are given. Even many of the teachings of Jesus had been given before but not with the insight and emphasis in which he presented them.
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Sorin
You’re logically inconsistent. How is “Glory should not be stolen” NOT part of the main benefit of the principle which is “seeing how glory is obtained and then taking the correct path to receive it”?
JJ
You have little power to prevent people from plagiarizing or stealing glory from you, but you do have full power over your behavior which will determine the steps you take to receive glory.
For instance, in the seating parable I cited. The guy had full power to pick his seat and he chose the highest in an attempt to glorify himself.
Sorin
That’s based on the law of karma not on the principle of glory.
JJ
All principles are related to karma, but you need to examine more than the word “karma:” to understand them. You are really being nit picky here lately. What is getting into you? You were not like this until you realized you disagreed with me politically and now you act like I am an enemy who can say nothing right. You are acting very out of character compared to the way you used to be. I think you should dispassionately examine your bias here.
Here are ten other principles out of many I have covered.
1 Male-Female Energies
2 Freedom
3 Law of Correspondences
4 Energy Follows Thought
5 Initiation
6 The Name of Christ
7 The Ring-Pass-Not
8 Good and Evil
9 The Ancient Law of Evil Sharing
10 Law of Dominating Good
These are all related to karma, but a surface understanding of karma will not explain any of them, just like it will not explain the Principle of Glory which you are attacking merely because I have presented it. It appears that from here on out that anything I present that is new will be attacked in the same way with your new approach to my teachings – with no effort to see the significance.
Sorin
No. Karma for instance has to be known to be actively used, otherwise its usage is passive.
JJ
There are people who suffer or benefit from the results of karma every day, not because they understand it but because it is automatic. After all, it is merely the result of cause and effect. When a cause is set in motion the effect is automatic whether the cause is known or unknown.
Sorin:
While your principle of glory “One cannot give glory to himself, but depends upon others besides himself for any recognition he receives.” states something widely accepted by everybody
JJ
If this is so widely understood them why did no one, including yourself, get the principle after weeks of time and dozens of hints? It is because that most have not realized that even God cannot give glory to himself but must get it from others. Where have you ever read before that God is powerless to manifest his own glory? You haven’t. Obviously I am not just stating the obvious. If it were so obvious someone in the group would have seen it after the dozens of hints I gave.
On the other hand, after a principle is explained it always seems quite simple though the real meaning is still going over your head, as you do not want to see it.
June 29, 2014
Re: Past Life Regression
Dan:
Awhile back you mentioned something about hypnotizing someone in order to have their “higher self” diagnose their illness.
1) What “higher self” would you contact via this method; solar angel, guardian angel, higher mental, etc?
JJ
If I said higher self I may not have been technically correct. Deep hypnosis can access all the computing power in your subconscious and often this access can give the patient a pretty accurate diagnosis. In doing this sometimes a link will be established with a higher part of oneself, in turn linked to the solar angel, and some information will filter down, but not always.
Dan:
2) You have mentioned that hypnotic experiences are fraught with illusion from various sources. Is there a way to “invoke” this particular “higher self” such that you have less chance of contacting a less reliable, “lower” self or the hypnotized person’s desire to please, and etc.?
JJ
There are many grades of hypnosis and the first thing to do to avoid illusion is to get the subject in a deep state. Information retrieved from a light state is not as reliable as that retrieved from a deep state unless the person is very sensitive. Even in a deep state the subject may be relating some misinformation. An experienced hypnotist can usually tell how reliable a subject is and there are things he can do to help with accuracy.
Greg seemed to be quite accurate. Some of the signs were the depth of the feelings retrieved and the amount of details given. If we had more time he could have come up with a lot more information.
Dan
3) Is it possible to do this via self-hypnosis? If so, will you suggest a technique/method/script for doing so.
4) Is “self hypnosis” really possible?
JJ
Most self hypnosis puts you in a light hypnotic state compared with regular hypnosis, hence to accomplish the same thing you need to give yourself suggestions or visualizations many times. The best way to do this is to make a recording of an affirmation and play it over and over. You can also enter the hypnotic state by using a recording of a hypnotist’s voice, but I would recommend one be present if you want to go deep. Once you go so deep you do not recall anything that transpired unless directed to.
With rare exceptions the only way to go deep through self hypnosis is to get a hypnotist to put you under and then direct you to have the power to put yourself under and safely bring yourself out of it.
Dan
5) Assuming #4 is “yes”, then will repeated self-hypnosis be as potentially detrimental as hypnosis (by another) and cause one to become more susceptible to hypnosis (hypnotic suggestion) from other sources?
JJ
Regular self hypnosis would do little to make you more susceptible, but if a hypnotist directs you to have the power then it could over time.
Except on rare occasions I use guided mediation which puts subjects in a light harmless state where they can bring themselves out at any time. This is deep enough to always get some in a group back to past lives. Going deep a couple times should be fairly harmless, but I wouldn’t recommend doing it often as it does increase one’s susceptibility to suggestion.
Ruth:
if Greg had not had that past life experience at the Gathering, would those two past life people still have been able to contact him later on at some stage to tell him more?
JJ
Probably not though he may have had impressions through dreams or reflection.
Ruth:
Was it just a coincidence, or did you specifically pick Greg out of the group at the Gathering to stimulate more contact with those working behind the veil.
JJ
In each group regression I pick someone who I think is sensitive to go deeper. We usually get something interesting retrieved.
Ruth:
I know you have said in the past that our past lives are not that important to focus us because we need to work in the now and with who we are in this life, and sometimes past life information can cause a glamor for that person if they think that they were an important person in one of their lives etc.
Or do the people at the Gathering who you take back into past life regression need to know who they were in that life and how they are connected to you?
JJ
I do not believe I said past lives are not important. After all, they make us what we are today. What I did say is that it is not important to let the world know who you are, especially if you think you were someone famous. There is a lot of glamour and control around this as many gurus claim they need to be believed because they were a great sage in a past life.
All knowledge can be useful and if one can retrieve a past life it will broaden his perspective. The knowledge of the retrieved past life should be for personal use and not as a tool to show the world how great you are.
June29, 2014
Here’s a treatment for gallstones which worked like a miracle for my wife.
Liver And Gallbladder Cleanse
- Monday through Saturday noon, drink as much health food store apple juice or apple cider as your appetite will permit, in addition to supplements and regular meals.
- At noon Saturday, eat a normal lunch.
- Three hours later, take 2 teaspoons of disodium phosphate or Epson Salt dissolved in one ounce of hot water. The taste may be objectionable and may be followed by a little freshly squeezed citrus juice.
- Two hours later, repeat step 3.
- For the evening meal, have grapefruit juice, grapefruit, or other citrus fruits or juices.
- At bedtime have
- 1/2 cup unrefined olive oil followed by a small glass of fresh grapefruit juice, OR
- 1/2 cup warm unrefined olive oil blended with 1/2 cup fresh lemon juice
- Go immediately to bed and lie on your right side with your right knee pulled up close to your chest for 10 minutes
- The next morning, one hour before breakfast, take 2 teaspoons of disodium phosphate dissolved in 2 ounces of hot water. Eat a large, greasy breakfast. (Ex. Bacon & eggs, fried potatoes, etc.) This will get the gall bladder to flush out any gallstones within hours.
- Continue your normal diet and nutritional program. If a large number of gallstones is found in the stool, repeat in 2 weeks.
Re: The Fifth Key Revealed
Sorin:
I understand that criticizing can be annoying, but I am a bit disappointed when your response is an invitation to piss off. Obviously some will disagree with you, but it’s not the end of the world.
JJ
I do not believe I have told anyone to piss off in my life. Where are you getting this? You need to complain about what I do and say not with what I do hot do and say.
You have undergone a drastic change in approach of late, as if a switch has gone off in your mind, and you must now look at everything I say with a jaundice eye and disagree even before it is clear that you have anything to disagree with. After all, I haven’t even presented the audio yet on the Fifth Key.. I think the switch went off in you after we discussed the Iraq war.
The switch has not happened because I was reasonable in the past and now, all of a sudden, everything I say is completely unreasonable. That makes no sense at all and no one else is seeing such a change in me.
Sorin
You provided some good answers to my questions, hopefully your answers will be useful to some other people as well.
JJ
Actually even though you seem to have made a big switch in attitude your challenges are useful for they bring our more detailed explanations.
JJ Quote
It is because that most have not realized that even God cannot give glory to himself but must get it from others.
Sorin
On the other hand, if God suffused himself in all creation, isn’t God giving glory to himself?
JJ
A person can pat himself on the back but that doesn’t do much until someone else acknowledges that it is deserved. We have a local crazed guy who has run for president several times. He pats himself on the back thinking he is the best man for the job, but it doesn’t do much good until he can get others to vote for him.
To receive glory God had to nurture distinct individual lives. When we all realize our oneness and go to the great rest of pralaya then there will be go glory or light and dark, but rest and absorption to prepare for the greater glories to come.
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Gathering Audio Explaining the Principle of Glory
June 30, 2014
The Gathering 2014
Yes, since we are talking about the Principle of Glory we should give Steve Evans recognition for coming the closest to enunciating the principle. This was the first gathering for Steve and Jenny and a number of others who were a delight to meet.
July 1, 2014
Re: The Gathering 2014
Ruth:
Why did you say in the audio that you gave out the 12th key earlier, just in case something happened to you in the future?
Are you worried that things are not progressing as fast as they should be, because of the failure to get enough home study groups or study groups off the ground around the World to prepare for molecules and the gathering?
JJ
The future is not 100% predictable and i am getting older so I figure I should get as much as I can out there in case something unpredictable happens.
The work has not progressed as much as I had hoped but we still have a ways to go to meet the time for the beginning of the gathering in earnest which I have always said should be around 2025-2030.
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