The Fall into Matter
Question: Would you elaborate about the fall of and the role of Lucifer, fallen angels etc?
Here is an account by DK describing the original descent:
“The Now becomes the time that was. The aeon mergeth into space. The Word of Motion hath been heard. The Word of Love succeedeth. The Past controlled the form. The Now evolves the life. The Day that is to be sounds forth the Word of Power.
The form perfected and the life evolved hold the third secret of the greater Wheel. It is the hidden mystery of living motion. The mystery, lost in the Now but known to the Lord of Cosmic Will.
The thirty thousand million Watchers refused to heed the call. [30 billion out of 90 billion] “We enter not the forms,” they said, “until the seventh aeon.” The twice thirty thousand million [60 Billion] hearkened to the call and took the forms designed.
The rebellious ones laughed within themselves, and sought pralayic peace until the seventh aeon. But the seven great Lords called to the greater Chohans, and with the eternal Lhas of the third cosmic heaven entered into debate.
The dictum then went forth. The laggards in the highest sphere heard it echo through the scheme. “Not till the seventh aeon, but at the fourteenth seventh will the chance again come round. The first shall be the last and time be lost for aeons.”
The obedient Sons of Mind connected with the Sons of Heart, and evolution spiralled on its way. The Sons of Power stayed in their appointed place, though cosmic karma forced a handful to join the Sons of Heart.
At the fourteenth seventh aeon, the Sons of Mind and Heart, absorbed by endless flame, will join the Sons of Will, in manvantaric manifestation. Three times the wheel will turn.
At the centre stand the buddhas of activity, helped by the lords of love, and following their twofold work will come the radiant lords of power.
The buddhas of creation from out the past have come. The buddhas of love are gathering now. The buddhas of will at the final turn of the third major wheel will flash into being. The end will then be consummated.” From The Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Pages 25-27
Let us reestablish some basics concerning our past.
[1] The two thirds, or the 60 billion monads, designated for physical bodies chose correctly. These incarnated into physical bodies. They fell only in the sense that they descended from the higher spheres to the physical form.
A scripture that creates confusion reads as follows:
“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth,” Rev 12:3-4
It is interesting that DK tells of two thirds who fell to earth and the scriptures indicate one third.
This is most likely beceuse two different starting points are involved. The first was before physical creation where two thirds decided to incarnate. The second describes a process involving one third of the two thirds who incarnate. One third of humankind are under control of the antichrist forces, and these create problems in and out of incarnation. Those seen as evil spirits are either thoughtforms or wayward entities out of incarnation.
The original one third fell spiritually. They refused to incarnate into form thinking that others could do the hard work and when a golden age was ushered in then they would come down and enjoy the fruit of the labors of others.
Keep in mind that what is called the dense physical is only one of the bodies we can incarnate to. This material world is composed of the densest three ethers, 5, 6 and 7 (solid, liquid and gaseous) but there are seven eithers in all. Shamballa and the residents thereof are composed of the third ether and esoterically have also fallen into physical bodies, even though they are more refined than ours.
The third mentioned by DK are not allowed to take bodies in any of the seven physical ethers of form.
Among the two thirds, but existing in the third ether were a number of Lucifers or sons of the Morning, and at the foundation of Shamballa there was not one, but two advanced entities who did not cooperate and formulated their own agendas.
[2] The fall to earth symbolizes a consciousness that does not rise above the material or lower planes. They either occupy etheric bodies or thoughtforms created by incarnated humans. We thus create our own devils, but they are given life by the fallen humanity.
Those of us with dense physical bodies didn’t fall to earth in the normal sense but we descended to earth for a great purpose.
[3] Hitler in a previous incarnation led the Lords of Dark Face in Atlantis overshadowed by a fallen Lucifer.
[4] Giants were created by initiates gone astray in physical bodies. They may have been inspired by members of the fallen third but the fallen did not inhabit their bodies except by shared possession.
[5] There are different grades of etheric matter. It is not a punishment to use any of the grades. Some entities are limited as to the ethers they can access because of past karma
The Ancient of Days does not have this limitation as he can manifest in any grade of matter he desires within the cosmic physical plane. He will incarnate among us at some point in our future.
[6] There have been numerous destructions and recreations. There have been numerous Adam and Eves. The last time this occurred was referenced in the biblical story about 6000 years ago. The Biblical story is a composite to teach basic truths.
One filled with joy preaches without preaching. – Mother Teresa
April 30, 2013
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You say these are basics concerning our past, so where is your basic evidence for each of these numbered points?
So what is the evidence for any of this?
Spiritual teachings are generally not based on outward scientific evidence but students register them within. You being an atheist are obviously in the wrong place. You might want to check out
Neil deGrasse Tyson, but Graham Hancock probably would not satisfy you.
These are not spiritual teachings. These are narratives about human history, a concrete matter, that you are insisting are true, and I want to know what evidence you have. Internal vibes do not count as evidence. Here in the real world, we don’t discern the truth of concrete matters from vibes, and most believers would say the same thing.
“I have a used car to sell you. I can’t show it to you, but trust me, my soul vibes say it’s a great deal at a great price. Just hand me your credit card. This deal is not for atheists.” That is how you sound.
You might want to check out Julian Jayne’s “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.” From Wikipedia: “Bicameral mentality is a psychological hypothesis proposed by American psychologist Julian Jaynes. It suggests that early modern humans experienced thoughts and emotions not as originating within themselves but as commands from external ‘gods’. According to the theory, the human mind once functioned with a division in which one part generated verbal instructions while a second part obeyed, forming a ‘bicameral mind’. The eventual collapse of this mental structure is proposed to have led to the development of self-reflective consciousness in humans.”
Just the summary of his hypothesis sounds very similar to you: vibing the truth from a part of your mind that you mistakenly perceive to be from some higher plane.
These teachings are revealed from the spiritual hierarchy and since you do not accept their existence it is futile to argue with you. My writings are not even intended for atheists, but for those who accept the planes beyond the physical. You are obviously only here to critisize.
Whether or not unseen spiritual realms exist is beside the point. You are not in communion with a spiritual hierarchy or higher planes. You are in communion with a rogue part of your brain that acts like a chatbot trained on the things you’ve read. That’s why your writings are unoriginal New Age word salads and a rehash of theosophy.
My comments are intended to provide a dose of reality. I’m sure you would love nothing more than for the world to go on without anyone challenging your perceived communion with the gods. After all, believing that is a lot more fun and self-gratifying than confronting the reality that you are just deluding yourself.
I enjoy a real challenge but you offer little or none because you argue from a purely materialistic viewpoint which has little to do with what I teach. Real challenges come from those who accept and incorporate spiritual realities. You only provide a distraction and readers complain to me privately about that. None so far are influenced by you because they are looking beyond the physical.
How can I be a distraction that has no influence? Both of those things can’t be true simultaneously. You’re all deceiving yourselves.
A distraction doesn’t infuence but merely wastes time.