"I would not attempt to state the rights and wrongs of termination, life and death in such a manner as you have done, JJ ... Nor would I even think of looking at the biblical pro's and con's .. nor would I dare to make the sweeping generalizations that you have made The respect you show for another is the reflection of the respect you have for your self .. and your own ... If it was you, your life .. and your child, I wonder if you would have the same attitudes By what authority?"
Sounds like I pushed some buttons here. I do not need any authority to say anything I want. I can just type on this little keyboard to my hearts content. The reader can use the authority of the soul to discover the truth or error of anything I say.
"On not one occasion in this post do you take into account the effect of a pregnancy termination on the lives of the children who ARE affected ..."
There are lots of things I do not have time to mention. That's one of the reasons that we have members posting to the list. They write many interesting truths that I do not mention. I stated that in most cases there are negative effects from abortion. You could have a point with births following the abortion, but I think the problem can be easily overridden by a mothers love and acceptance.
"Then how do you explain that a child can know mother is pregnant even before the mother does ... and that the child can communicate with the fetus .... and that as the children grow up, both children have a full memory of this communication ....
I have taken people back to the womb and even back to the moment of conception and believe me the intelligence and awareness is not as sparkling as you present. Memories and impressions are recorded from the time of conception, but full awareness is not there. The soul is loosely linked to the body and any really intelligent communication would come from that source, but that would not be the norm unless a person is very sensitive to the soul. All one has to do to realize that the soul gradually takes command of the body is to look back on your own life. Most of us have no memories of before the age of four because there is no self awareness. Our consciousness goes through, for about four years, one similar to the animal kingdom where individualization has not taken place.
I can remember my consciousness from the ages of 4-8 and I know from memory that my soul was more firmly anchored at 8 than it was at 4.
I have taken many people back to the early ages up to the time of birth and it is obvious from their accounts that their self consciousness was not firmly anchored at that time, even though full memory is recorded from the time of conception.
There is also quite a difference in the consciousness in the womb and the consciousness shortly after birth. To discover this you have to observe more than memory and instinctive response.
"The greatest lesson learned is at the end of old age .. at the point just before death, when the soul realizes that, as it looks back over the past life, it has not learned and made real the purpose of its incarnation ... and has to come back into the body and do it all again ..... for the simple reason it knows that, without the brain, thought cannot be created to clear the layers of the soul from self judgment."
If what you say is true then people who die violent and quick deaths would be denied this opportunity. Now there is truth to the statement of a person's life flashing before his eyes near the point of death, especially as an unexpected accident seems eminent. It is shortly after death; however, that the person goes through a review of his life and then takes with him the memories of the three most important lessons learned. This knowledge would not be garnered from a near death experience.
None of this conflicts with my statement that during the declining years the majority of individuals do not learn any new major lessons from life. Most crystallize (as Djwahl Khul expresses it) around the age of 53.
"Have you ever experienced carrying on a conversation by telepathy with a 3 month old fetus in utero .. and watching the response of the fetus on an ultrasound .. I have .. and I have watched a fetus respond to its brother and sister .... and I have seen a fetus move away from a needle inserted in the womb ... and you want to say that a fetus does not have consciousness?"
This does not conflict with anything I have written. Full self consciousness is not needed for such response. There is consciousness of some type in every form.
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