I see that you are trying to get answers from Saul and Zina as to how to achieve this oneness. I spent much time attempting to get an answer from them and the best I could get was that the mind created the separation and the mind can return us to oneness apparently while still living in this physical reality. Taking Saul at his word I wrote the following which I thought I would repost for the new members.
"Maybe I should give Saul's philosophy a try. Let me get this straight. My mind has created duality which includes space, time, form etc. Thus I take it that, since my mind created all of this, that it can also undo it.
"Let me give this a try. I am typing on many keys, but my mind is playing a trick on me. Stop it mind! Ah, yes. Now I am only typing on one key. This is much easier. I think I am writing to over 200 people, but this is another trick of my mind. OK mind, stop it. Let me see the oneness. Wow. It's working. Saul just disappeared! Whoops, there goes Ed and Zina, Rob, Glenys, Rick. Man look at them go. I never realized that you guys were just a part of my mind. You're all gone now except for Xavier. Man is he putting up a fight, but he's finally starting to fade.
"This is kind of disappointing. All this time I thought I was writing to a group; now I have only myself to write to with only one key.
"Now I look around me. There is still a lot of tricky duality present. OK mind turn off the rest of this illusion. There goes my TV, my VCR, my computer and now my chair - whoops, that hurt. I'll make the floor go next and now my house. Now I'm just standing on the ground looking at the sky and my wife is angry at me for making this happen. I forgot about her. There she goes. Now she's gone there will be no more complaints from her.
"Now there's still the earth and the rest of the universe. These are more than one so my mind must have created them too. Earth, disappear.
"WOW!!! This is weird. I'm just a dualistic body floating in space. I'm on a roll though so I think I'll see where this leads me. Some say it's supposed to be eternal bliss.
"OK stars and sun you're next!
"I'm just floating in a void. Feels weird, but not blissful yet. I've still got the duality of my body. That is next. Now it's really weird. There's just the duality of my mind and the void. If I make My mind go then I will finally be One in the void, but with no mind having creative power I will not be able to come back. That's scary
"Which is going to go? My mind essence or the void?
"Wait! Am I crazy? Do I want to be reduced to the nothingness of a void just to be one? No way. Mind get busy and create everything again just as it was.
"And it came to pass that JJ created the heavens and the earth."
Even though this may represent my weird attempt at humor, I believe it makes the irrefutable point that a return to void of absolute oneness is not the goal at the present time.
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