Gathering 2005 Sun Valley, Part 17

2009-10-23 05:25:00

JJ:

Mars is experiencing global warming. Mars is experiencing global warming? There are no humans there so why is it warming up on Mars? The fact is that we go through cycles of warming and cooling and warming and cooling.

More than 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. That's why sea levels are falling. That's where water comes from to build glaciers, from the seas. The sea levels go down because of evaporation which comes down as moisture which builds glaciers. The glaciers come from evaporated seas. The interesting thing is that over 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. But what do we hear? We hear about the 1% that are shrinking. They find the small amount that is shrinking and tell us about them but they don't tell us about the 90% that are actually growing.

Audience:  Inaudible.

  

JJ:

Ninety percent of the world's glaciers are in Antarctica. Ninety percent of the water within glaciers is in Antarctica and only a small portion of this is growing. Most of this is over land and most places where they're over land they are growing. Where they are shrinking is where the glacier stretches out over the ocean. Now why are the glaciers that are floating over the oceans shrinking? They are shrinking because the water in some areas of the ocean is getting warmer. We hear about global warming but what is actually getting warmer? The upper atmosphere is actually getting cooler. The total atmosphere including the upper is getting very slightly warmer over the last 100 years. But when they figure the earth warming they are also figuring the temperature of the water. The main thing that is melting glaciers is pockets of warm water. What's causing the water to get warmer? They say CO2 but CO2 mainly affects the atmospheric temperature. The atmosphere warming up or cooling has very little effect upon the ocean in the short term. What warms the ocean? This is the key thing to what creates the earth changes.

Audience:

"Is it volcanic activity?"

  

JJ:

Right. Under water volcanic activity. There is a cycle and as we know the core of the earth is as hot as the sun. The core of the earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling like a heartbeat. There are a number of different cycles. There are cycles of approximately 12000 years. Some say it is 11500 that the core of the earth heats up and then cools. When it heats up there is more volcanic activity under the ocean. When the volcanic activity shoots forth heat into the oceans, what does that do to the oceans? Warms them up. Some scientists that are studying this are getting nervous because when the oceans warm up that has a tremendous affect on the planet. Does anybody know what it does?

Audience:

"El Nino."

  

JJ:

Yes, El Nino for instance. It's caused by the ocean warming up but there is a danger much higher than that.

Audience:  Inaudible.

  

JJ:

What happens when the oceans warm up is that you have more water coming into the atmosphere. When we have more water coming into the atmosphere we're going to have more rains and snows. Eventually, when we have more snow in the north we have more heat from the sun reflected into space so instead of a global warming we have a global cooling effect. Then it turns out instead of having more and more rain we have more and more snow and this produces what they call and ice age. The last time the oceans warmed up it produced pretty much all the glaciers we have today. It produced more moisture on the earth and the moisture descended and eventually became the glaciers. The water level of the oceans actually sank rather than rose. Everyone is worried about it rising but the scientists who are studying this underwater volcanic activity are worried about the oceans going down rather than rising.

Audience:

"A 300 foot difference in the sea level at the last ice age."

  

JJ:

Right. So, the last ice age was approximately 11,500 years ago and the cycles of the ice ages are approximately 11,500 years. So we're approaching the time. This is what they say would happen if we entered an ice age. We'd have a couple years of real unusual weather with a lot of hurricanes, snow and excessive moisture. Remember all the excessive moisture we had in the east this last winter? We had it pretty good around here but some areas didn't.

Audience:

"At the end of April we went up to Washington and there was 6 inches of snow on the ground and all the spring flowers were frozen."

  

JJ:

Some of the scientists studying this are a little nervous by these past few winters we've had with the excessive moisture. I personally don't believe we're quite there yet. Some scientists say it could be imminent or it could be a couple hundred years off. If the cycle is accurate it won't be too long.

Who knows. Maybe the greenhouse effect from the added CO2 (carbon dioxide) will save us from an ice age.

Larry:

"I read that they studied the small transition period into the ice age and that weather then was not just bad weather but it was extraordinarily violent weather."

  

JJ:

During the last ice age what happened is that glaciers formed in the north and came clear down to this area where we are now. If we were living during the last ice age we could look out our windows and see the end of the glaciers right here. They covered all of Canada. It covered all of England clear down to France. Ice completely covered all of these areas. The last ice age eliminated the mammoths. Matter of fact, they found mammoths with hay still in their mouths; they were frozen very quickly by something.

Audience:

"Some say we need the ice age, that we've been farming long enough and that this interglacial period has taken all these minerals and trace elements out of the soil in lots of places and that's what it needs, to be covered with ice, to rest, to grind up these rocks and minerals."

  

JJ:

That's an interesting thought. There is this guy named Joel Wallach that studied people who lived to be 130 or 150 years old. You know how we hear stories about them. He visited and studied these people who lived an extra long life span and he only found one thing they had in common. Some of them ate bacon and eggs and lots of lard and grease and butter. He looked for a common thread. There was only one common thread. They all had a lot of minerals in their soil. Those who were healthiest obtained the irrigation water from melting glaciers. These glaciers have all kinds of minerals in them. So you might have something there, Larry. Maybe the ice age is nature's way of creating glaciers to replenish the minerals in the soil. Ninety percent of the minerals in the United States as well as most of Europe is depleted. Most of the world has ninety percent of the trace minerals gone from the soil.

[Wallach's website is:
http://doctorwallach.com/]

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I like Australian wine and I think I like the taste better because in Australia they only have 50% of their minerals gone. Ninety percent of ours are gone. Australia has the most trace minerals of any of the nations. Chile still has a few good minerals left and their wine taste pretty good too. There is something about these trace minerals and wine that gives it extra good flavor. That's my theory on that anyway.

So, that's a good point. I believe you have a point that the ice age may be a way of replenishing. One of the people we did a reading with, I think it could of been Sharon, said this next turbulence will not be as bad as the last. It's possible because, for one thing, the earth as a body is cooling. The inner core will slowly cool over a period of millions of years so it's quite possible the next ice age won't be as bad as the last one. Let's hope so.

Audience:

"Global warming could be a good thing if we could find ways to prevent the ice age from happening and find ways to re-mineralize."