The Iron Rod

2009-7-4 19:20:00

Thanks for the post David.

[See full text of David's post at the end of this article.]

We have had many come and attempting to teach us the state you mention as being beyond revelation. I have knick-named this "The Nothingness Philosophy." We have spent many thousands of words discussing it but since each missionary for the cause cannot put nothingness into words we remain unenlightened to them.

The bottom line is that there are many states of consciousness, and the one you mention is one that we plunge into now and then, but obviously we do not want to stay there all the time or we would not be here. We are obviously here for a purpose so it is best to move ahead with that purpose and fulfill it so we may have joy.

As far as the holding the iron rod meaning that we should adhere to the authorities in the [Mormon] church -- I couldn't disagree with you more.

The iron rod in the parable is the word of God -- and where is that found?

It is found within as indicated by the apostle John:

"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads." (Rev 14:1)

The name of God which is God in us wherein the Word of God lies is in the forehead, or within our own divine consciousness linked to God.

Lehi's dream is more fully explained below taken from an address I gave at the 2002 Gathering.


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Here is David's post:

"I once had an experience where I was in the same situation as above. I later found out that this event was seen by those at the Tree of Life partaking of its fruit as me letting go of the iron rod and slipping away into the mists of darkness.

"Somehow I knew it was true -- not intellectually but a sense in my soul -- and it saddened me. I had always thought I was holding even tighter to the iron rod as I searched deeper and deeper into the mysteries of god. I mean, I was following the instructions of Joseph who said:

"I advise all to go on to perfection, and search deeper and deeper into the mysteries of Godliness. A man can do nothing for himself unless God direct him in the right way. (TPJS p. 364)

"That is just one quote and there are dozens with the same message. It is absolutely clear that Joseph wanted each saint to seek and know the mysteries of godliness as he knew them.

"So how could it be that "the masses in the background" are holding on to the rod (struggling to be sure but hanging on) when they are so "blind" to the truth?

"Going back to the discussion I had with Ruth a few days ago, I never learned the answer to this dilemma until I experienced what was "beyond revelation".

"Would it be offensive to state that all who are initiates on this path of higher consciousness described here have metaphorically lost hold of the iron rod, fallen away into forbidden paths are are lost? That is certainly how the mormon church leaders see it but are they seeing correctly/truthfully from God's point of view?"