2006-12-1 05:38:00
Moses wrote:
"Jesus was born on the 18th of November."
Ruth's reply to Moses:
"Can this be proven as a true fact? If not, the only way to determine Jesus birth date would be to tap into Soul and find the answer within."
Moses' reply to Ruth:
"The information was given by a heavenly visitor who later informed us he was Moses on this day. He said he decides to visit the earth because the day fell on his great Lord Saturn's day. He further said that he seldom visits though once in a year when the birth of the messiah falls on Saturn's day. That there was a great rejoicing on that day in heaven. He said he is also known as the shepherd's shepherd. This was startling to us. This just information. You may verify through soul contact as Ruth said."
JJ:
I can't tell you the exact birthday of Christ for I have never received it and never asked for it.
November 18th is a date I have never heard put forward before. I would be interested if you were told the year, for that is as much of a mystery as the day.
It is interesting that he was told that November 18th is Saturn's day when it is in the sign of Scorpio, which is ruled by Mars. The Christmas season has been traditionally associated with Saturn, which rules Capricorn.
Most scholars think that Jesus was either born in the spring or fall as these were the seasons most closely associated with the shepherds being in the fields as described in the New Testament.
Ruth indicates we could discover the date by tapping into the soul. This is easier said than done as the soul speaks in the language of principles and not data. The date of the birth of Jesus is a piece of data not closely related to any principle.
If a true or false piece of data were spoken with impartiality a seeker would usually register nothing with his soul because the soul does not speak in factual data. For instance, if I told you to guess what number I am thinking you would be hard pressed to get it from your soul.
If, on the other hand, a person speaks around a principle he is speaking the correct language and the sensitive person will feel a confirmation of the truth of it through his soul.
Does this mean that it is virtually impossible to verify the truth of a piece of data like this one?
Not quite. In many cases it is possible. The Principles of Discovery we previously covered will help in this direction and are helpful to review.
In a nutshell if a person wanted to verify the accuracy of this date there would be two ways to do it:
The trouble is that such an authority is difficult to summon or evoke and even if he were evoked he is not interested in teaching data unless it is pertinent to a work to be accomplished. He will also expect you to find all available data on your own first and then, perhaps he will fill in the gaps.
Now Moses says he was told this information by Moses of the Bible, a pretty authoritative figure. But the trouble for us is that many people in the past think they have gotten information from heavenly beings and it has either been proven false or the heavenly beings disagree with each other.
So how should we approach this information?
The answer is that we definitely should not accept it because it is said to come from Moses, but neither should we reject it. If there is no way to immediately prove a thing just proceed with a mind open to all possibilities.
Perhaps Moses would like to share some more information he has received to give the group a chance to judge the quality of his transmissions.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge."
-- Daniel J. Boorstin
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