Plowing With The Horses We Have

1999-4-2 10:54:00

I wish I had more time to give all your comments the time they deserve, but I feel I should at this time reply to some more of Zia's writings.

She says:

"I saw in myself the desire to walk away, that I was playing a mind game here, that could never be proven in this manner.... In the past I have walked away from the wall of ignorance, unwilling to push it, unwilling to stand over and over, and perhaps turn over a view tables in the process. I was about to, today."

JJ:

Zia, how could you have changed so quickly here? Just a few days ago you were reading all the archives, thanking Rick for this list, asking me how you can help to promote the teachings and the book, and now just because I present a slant on truth that you have not considered before, your feelings seem hurt and you want to walk away.

I'm sorry your enthusiasm became so dampened. Have I done anything to offend you?

The subject of truth is not a concept that I would have presented near the beginning of my relationship with this group. I knew it would be controversial and there are many other things I will present that will be controversial so I first wanted to establish a relationship with a number of you in such a way that I would be seen as having an earned authority in your eyes. Only in this way can your eyes be open enough to consider some of the things that I will teach here; to be opened enough to consider a teaching is important, for without sincere consideration there can be no possibility of soul confirmation.

We have been gliding along rather smoothly for a while so I thought to myself, "It's time to put a teaching out there to stir the waters and perhaps purify to a higher degree."

The reason I asked for Zia's definition of truth was so I could more intelligently respond to her posts for if she believes the meaning of truth is one thing and I another then a frustrating communication results. She mentions mental telepathy, but we are limited to words here on the Internet and we must plow with the horses we have.

The definition she gave me was:  "Truth: is that which I know now... Not what I think, not what I believe."

Sorry, I do not know what you mean here so I went back and read all your posts trying to figure out what you mean when you speak of truth and absolute truth.

Here is what I have gleaned from your writings:

You only seem to speak of truth in the absolute sense and truth as you see it lies beyond the world of perception. When we see an elephant we are not seeing any truth about the elephant. Any truth concerning the elephant lies beyond its form. If I see that he elephant has four legs, that is not true in your mind. Therefore if I tell someone the elephant has three legs, I am not lying.

You say the past is not true and that it can be changed. The future is not true either and that can be changed. Does this mean that Bill Clinton may have had no sex with Monica after all that he can change his past and now be telling us the truth?

Sorry, Zia, this makes no sense to me. I see this type of thinking as part of a great illusion that traps many new age people who have misunderstood the "Seth" books and "A Course in Miracles."

The way you define truth is so narrow it would make the idea of telling the truth or lying meaningless. "Sorry dear," I couldn't tell you the truth about that good looking secretary because what you think you see of her has nothing to do with truth. I couldn't possibly have an affair with an illusion."

Let's get real here. 99% of the people out there have a pretty good general idea of what we mean when we speak of telling the truth or lying. I am taking what people already correctly understand about truth and guiding them a step further.

It is true, that as you progress to worlds higher than the physical, things seem to be more real and permanent, and this you call "absolute truth", but even in the higher worlds there is change and BECOMING so it's not absolute in the way you are thinking.

To say that 2+2 is not 4 is being argumentative here with no purpose. In any final oneness where there could not be a two plus two you would not even exist as an entity, but what good does it do us to even think about it when there are so many points of truth here in this reality to assist us in the joy of BECOMING?

Now I'll give you a couple more things (speaking to the group) that you may have not considered.

There are those who say we can change the past as well as the future. But let me present you this: You cannot change the past or the future.

No, I am not teaching the doctrine of predestination, not at all. Let me explain.

You cannot change the future because there is nothing to change. The future is not here yet. You create the future within your ring-pass-not and, when each point in time and space arrives, it is unchangeable.

Let me put it this way. Let us say you are going to make a snowball and you think to yourself, "I am going to change the future and not make that snowball, I'll make a snowman instead." Time passes and you make the snowman instead of the snowball and you think to yourself, "I'm proud of myself. I've changed the future."

Not so. The snowball was never made in the future so it was never there to change. When the future arrived there was no snowball to change. The real future contained the snowman. There was no snowball to change.

Now the event is passed, there is a snowman at this point in time and space, but there will never be a snowball. This point of time, where the snowman was made, is unchangeable when it was future and unchangeable when it slipped to the past.

Instead of changing the past and future what you do is create them. Each creation is a DECISION point. You can create or decide anything you want to, but decisions in time and space cannot be changed. If I decided to buy a new car yesterday, but changed my mind today, I do not alter the fact that I made that decision yesterday. I can, however, alter the effect of that decision with an opposing decision today.

Zia brings up one more item for thought. She says that truth is not something we perceive. I would argue this point. All truth that registers in our consciousness or understanding is truth that is perceived in some way. Without some type of perception truth cannot be registered in consciousness. If you do not consider this to be true then think of anything that you know or believe to be true and tell me how you arrived at it with no perception.