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2004-5-4 04:18:00

My Friends,

Thought I would post my response to fairly new reader. Some people read the first Immortal book and get very enthused until they discover some of the teachings which run contrary to orthodoxy. Since this occurs periodically and may happen with some of your friends I thought I would make available this dialog. JJ

Reader:
Where is the illustrious "John" the Revelator in this book, (Reincarnation and the Bible) and in your archive? Why do you make no more mention of him, his words, or his teachings? Where did he go? Why does it seem he is not, nor has he ever been in your life , and that all this "knowledge" comes from you?

JJ:
Reincarnation and the Bible was written by me back around 1980. The Immortal series (which you have read one of three books) is presented as a combination of fact and fiction with some events based on truth and some fictionalized. This is explained in the book itself.

There are two reasons for this. The first is to present true teachings in an interesting manner so people will read and understand them.

The second is to avoid the mark of the Beast. I would suggest you go to the beginning of the archives and read the teachings on the Beast and his mark which is basically this.

He who places an outward authority before his mind in the place of the Holy Spirit (which works within) has the mark. This mark can be something or someone good such as the Bible, a church, a prophet or even John the Beloved.

If I were to teach from the authority of an outward source in such a stance so that source is not questioned and seen as basically infallible then the student acquires the mark of the beast.

Therefore, in my writings I claim no authority except as the Holy Spirit speaks to the reader as he reads, which thing happened to you when you read the first book. You want to deny this now, but if you are honest you will have to admit it.

You are seeking an outward John or prophet to be your authority and this is the mark of the beast which must be transcended through finding the Holy Spirit which resides within your own mind and heart. I hope you will read the beginning archives so you can see the truth behind my words here. Also, you might want to read the other two Immortal books.

The teachings I give on reincarnation are a stumbling block to many in a similar manner that the teachings of Jesus concerning the Sabbath were. Jesus was accused of violating the law and the prophets they screamed.

But he was not. When one honestly examines the scriptures we see that Jesus was in harmony with the scriptures as am I with reincarnation.

The scriptures plainly verify reincarnation as my writings testify. I am including an additional article at the end of this letter giving additional evidence on the Greek KRISIS. I am also sending you some additional material I have written that you can read.

So why does a believer of scripture such as yourself criticize me for teaching reincarnation when it is proven in the scriptures?

(1) I gave you positive scriptural evidence that we lived before birth.
(2) I gave irrefutable evidence that John the Baptist was Elijah.
(3) God's will is to HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." I Tim 2:4 God's will is always fulfilled, but this cannot be done without reincarnation.
(4) Obviously reincarnation was a popular belief back then for many thought that Jesus may be Elijah or Jeremiah born again (see Matt 16:13-14)
(5) I am attaching some of my writings giving physical evidence of reincarnation.
(6) Some of the early church Fathers wrote of reincarnation, such as Origen.

Reader:
"I see that my earliest thoughts on life were those of a little child forming his most natural conclusions." (Copyright by J J Dewey) Why, in the "Signs of Reincarnation" post of (Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:25 am - 13422), of the archive do you contradict yourself in this book (Reincarnation and the Bible) when you say, "As I stared at these two writings that matched beyond any possibility of chance my consciousness instantly changed. I realized that reincarnation was a fact and that everything I believed had to be taken apart and put back together again."(Copyright by J J Dewey) ....when in the book you clearly state : "It was my study of regression, however, that caused me to seriously consider reincarnation again. It has long been known that a person can be guided back to any time in his past and relive it as if it were occurring all over again. This can be done through hypnosis or by merely directing the mind to return."(Copyright by J J Dewey) No mention of handwriting or symbols here, ah , but remember, " It has long been known " we will discus that shortly. "One day a visiting neighbor was telling my mother about a book she had read entitled: The Search For Bridie Murphy and she explained the theory of how we are born again and again into this earth life. I was immediately attracted to this idea for it blended in with my natural thoughts and I continued to believe it until I became active in a conservative church about the age of thirteen."(Copyright by J J Dewey) SO , which is it Mr. Dewey? Did you decide as an adult, when you compared the two handwriting samples , or as a child and and then cease to believe it when you were thirteen?

JJ:
Both are correct. I believed in reincarnation when I was young but then when I started going to church I was taught that this was an evil doctrine contrary to the scriptures. I swallowed this explanation for about 12 years until I had the experience as an adult you mentioned which changed my mind.

Reader:
Here's what my research into the named book turned up. ..."Almost any hypnotic subject capable of going into a deep trance will babble about a previous incarnation if the hypnotist asks him to. He will babble just as freely about his future incarnations....In every case of this sort where there has been adequate checking on the subject's past, it has been found that the subject was weaving together long forgotten bits of information acquired during his early years" (Gardner 1957).

JJ:
Not so. Such a thing would not explain experiences I had such as the one I mentioned in the treatise. Also check out the attached document for very powerful evidence.

Reader:
My direct complaints about the current book, Reincarnation and the Bible" are thus: Crisis means judgment, or turning point in a disease, therefore, replacing the word judgment with the word crisis has no effect, and changes nothing in our traditional understanding.

NO. We can assume anything we want to Mr. Dewey, but it doesn't make one iota of truth. I have never seen a worse example of adding to or taking away from the scripture than this collection of ideas you call Reincarnation and the Bible.

JJ:
This I have not done. I have gone to the Greek and Hebrew and rendered them accurately. You cannot show otherwise.

Reader:
Are you blind? You have twisted your own mind to believe these things, and now you shine your wasting rays of black light onto all others you meet. Your payload of souls you will lead into damnation shall be great, but if so, these were never intended for paradise anyway.

JJ:
You insult me whereas I give the light of scripture to you. Who is using the words of light here? It is I who is using the scriptures to prove my point, not you. Think on that.

Reader:
A true spiritual teacher does not show up to teach maxims that are readily available in the books of the world. There are hundreds of books in print dealing with the divinity in man or the idea that humans are gods. Then there are many others dealing with the standard spiritual ideas.

JJ:
The information and evidence I put out is unique and much of it is not found in any other books.

Reader:
It is obvious by your dialect what kind of man you are, much in the same way you claim to know so much about a person simply through his or her handwriting, so much more can be learned about someone through the actual words they reveal. I have not the time , nor the patience to debate further, but this reproach I decree, that you should delete the archive, and if you must write, begin anew, and this time, stick to the truth, and leave out all the bs.

JJ:
Consider this scripture: Satan is "the accuser of the brethren." Rev 12:10 Who is being the accuser here? Who is accusing without cause? Who is behaving like Satan?

Reader:
I doubt you'll make it to this point in this letter, but if you do, I am sure you won't respond.

JJ:
You are obviously wrong about me here just as you are wrong about the teachings. Go back to your original feeling when you read "as a little child" without preconceived notions.

Reader:
So, on a lighter note, I leave you with a parable. A pheasant was standing in a field chatting to a bull. " I would love to be able to get to the top of yonder tree so all the countryside could see my glorious feathers," sighed the pheasant, "but I haven't got the energy." "Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings replied the bull. They're packed with nutrients." The pheasant pecked at a lump of dung and found that it actually gave him enough strength to reach the first branch of the tree. The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch, and so on. Finally, after a fortnight, there he was proudly perched at the top of the tree. Whereupon he was spotted by a farmer who dashed into the farmhouse, emerged with a shotgun, and shot the pheasant right out of the tree. The Moral of the Story: Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.

JJ:
I teach in harmony with the scriptures. I would be careful in calling the Word of God bullshit, even in jest.

More Comments on KISIS

I received this from a reader.
"The hour is coming in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation (KRISIS)." John 5:28-29

I looked up the definition for the above Greek word and found the following. There isn't anything here that suggest what you are saying the word should imply, namely correction. The bible translators seem to have gotten it right.

1) a separating, sundering, separation a) a trial, contest
2) selection
3) judgment a) opinion or decision given concerning anything 1) esp. concerning justice and injustice, right or wrong b) sentence of condemnation, damnatory judgment, condemnation and punishment
4) the college of judges (a tribunal of seven men in the several cities of Palestine; as distinguished from the Sanhedrin, which had its seat at Jerusalem) 5) right, justice

JJ Response:
You were quoting here from the online Blue Letter Bible which is a useful research tool, but for accuracy it is best to start with the Strong's Concordance. It is also best to use an older edition for the last one I looked at had a number of changes in it and not for the better. Apparently some believers do not like the literal translation and have added some biased interpretations to more closely conform to orthodox dogma.

Many of the exact meanings of Biblical words from the Greek and Hebrew have been lost and over the past millennia and much guesswork has been involved in translation. This is why one verse will have dozens of different wordings in the various translations giving a number of variations of meaning.

This verse in John is no exception for it is rendered a number of different ways. Translators translate KRISIS here as "damnation" "judgment and "condemnation" in the various Bibles.

The most accepted translation of this word is "Decision." This is verified by Strong's Concordance, the most valued authority in Bible translation. Most Bible and Greek scholars agree with this.

The common translation for the word in Bibles is "judgment."

A word with a core meaning of decision is often translated as "judgment" because the two words are so closely linked. After all what is a judgment but a weighted decision?

The fact that the Greek word KRISIS evolved into the English "crisis" gives us some additional hints as to the original meaning.

My dictionary gives two interesting definitions of this word:

(1) A crucial or decisive point or situation; a turning point.
(2) A point in a story or drama when a conflict reaches its highest tension and must be resolved.

Now the interesting thing about the Biblical Greek and Hebrew words is this. Many of them cannot be accurately translated with a single English word. Many of these ancient words are very rich in meaning and would take a whole paragraph to describe. Unfortunately, when translating an entire script it is impossible to elaborate on the meaning of each word so usually just a single word must be picked. When KRISIS evolved into English a new word had to be created to project its meaning. This new word was not decision, judgment, damnation, condemnation or any of the words mentioned by translators, but the new word "crisis."

Crisis is related to the orthodox meaning of decision and judgment, but with a twist. The twist is a point of tension, or turning point that will lead to an entirely new path, usually one of correction. I therefore gave what I consider to be the most correct meaning of the word as "decision which leads to correction." If I had to reduce it to a word I would use the word "correction."

The final test of a correct translation is to go to every place in the Bible where the word is used and see if the word or phrase fits on a consistent basis.

The Bible translators do not use judgment in every case because it doesn't seem to fit consistently.

For one thing the judgments mentioned in the scripture occur before the resurrection. How then can we have a resurrection of judgment when those coming back to life are already judged?

Let us take a look at a couple places where KRISIS is translated as something other than "judgment" and see if the word "correction" seems to fit better.

First of all let us look at the scripture in question:

"The hour is coming in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation (KRISIS)." John 5:28-29

There is no basis at all to use the word "damnation" but a resurrection that places you in a situation where you are forced to make decisions which leads to correction makes sense. "resurrection of correction" thus fits in well here.

Here's another:

Standard "And this is the condemnation (KRISIS), that the light is come into the world..." John 3:19

With "correction" "And this is the correction (KRISIS), that the light is come into the world..."

Standard "Ye serpents, Ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation (KRISIS) of hell?" Matt 23:33

With "correction" "Ye serpents, Ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the correction (KRISIS) of hell?"

In this context it is interesting that the hell that is our prison system are called "correctional" institutions.

We also find places where KRISIS is translated as "judgment" that it makes more sense to use "correction."

For Instance:

Standard "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment (KRISIS)." Matt 12:36

With "correction" "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of correction (KRISIS)."

Standard "But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment (KRISIS) and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." Luke 11:42

With "correction" "But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over correction (KRISIS) and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."

Standard "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment (KRISIS) is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." John 5:30

With "correction" "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my correction (KRISIS) is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." John 5:30

Standard "Now is the judgment (KRISIS) of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out." John 12:31

With "correction" "Now is the correction (KRISIS) of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out."

Standard "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment (KRISIS)." Heb 9:27

With "correction" "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the correction (KRISIS)."

Standard "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment (KRISIS) upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly" Jude, Verses 14-15

With "correction" "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute correction (KRISIS) upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly"

Standard "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment (KRISIS) is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." Rev 14:7

With "correction" "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his correction (KRISIS) is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."

As I said no single word does the job. Correction, judgment and decision all fit fairly consistently, but what fits best of all is the core meaning of the modern word crisis which evolved from KRISIS - which is basically "a decision or situation which brings correction" - or if the wrong decision is made, disaster.

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