David Icke

2000-11-29 07:51:00

My Friends,

My last post was written hastily and had many typos. They were so bad I rewrote the article and am posting the corrected one below.

Samu and Marilyn - please use this one and discard the other for the archives.

Jarmo,

Good to see a new person posting.

Believe it or not, I have never heard of David Icke before - so I took a look at his website. From the number of hits he is getting it is evident that he is becoming pretty popular.

As I look over his articles I can see that he has information that can lead to a number of truths, but I also see great distortion. The problem is that he sees a conspiracy under every rock. I have met a lot of people like this clear from the sixties when I began paying attention to the conspiracy theory.

During this forty year time period I have found that every single prediction that the "conspiracy under every rock" person has had has been wrong. When I first started following this they all believed that we would be under the dominion of this great hidden beast by the 70's. It would become so bad that we would only be saved by divine interference. Then the date was moved to the 80's, then the 90's and now fewer dates are set but takeover is still inevitable.

The truth is that there are circles of conspiracy, but no one I have seen has put their finger on how it works or what the plan really is. If
anti-conspirators had the truth then they should be able to predict with some degree of accuracy. There is also a counter conspiracy on the part of the Brotherhood of Light and some of their works are seen as evil by the conspirators.

If you want to know how reliable the writings of a person are then check out what you know and correspond them to what you do not know.

I am very familiar with Mormon history so let us check Icke's writings there.

Icke:
"Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses "have the same face" because Joseph Smith and Charles Ruddel came from the same bloodline."

JJ:
This is indeed a stretch. Probably many of us have similar ancestors to Hitler, but this does not make us like him.

Icke"
"Joseph Smith, along with Hiram Smith and Brigham Young, were the key figures behind the creation of the Mormon religion. They were of the elite of the elite Illuminati bloodline, the Merovingian or "Holy Grail" line, and were all high degree Freemasons."

JJ:
This much is true

Icke:
"They were also Satanists and formed their "church" as a front for Satanic activity which very much still goes on today. Why wouldn't it, that is what it is there for."

JJ:
There is absolutely no evidence of this. All founders of all organizations make mistakes, but this does not make then Satanists.

Icke:
"The Mormon empire was funded into existence by the Rothschilds through their Kuhn, Loeb, bank which also funded the Russian Revolution and Adolf Hitler, and yet again B'nai Brith, the Rothschild intelligence arm and defamer of genuine researchers, was involved."

JJ:
No evidence of this whatsoever. Perhaps banks that the Mormons use are on his hit list, but I am sure my bank is also.

The Mormon Church has received almost all its seed money from donations of members and later some from business investments.

Icke:
"Again the followers of these mind control cults would be shocked to think that the upper levels of these "religions" would engage in Satanic activity and human sacrifice of children, but it is about time they knew."

JJ:
The Hierarchy of the Mormons have their faults but they do not participate in human sacrifice.

Icke:
"The Mormons were also created as a front for Satanism and, like the Watchtower Society, Enochian magic.When I spoke in Salt Lake City near to the Mormon Temple, I came across the fascinating book by William J. Schnoebelen called Mormonism's Temple of Doom. Schnoebelen was initiated into the Wicca religion, then into Freemasonry, before going through the Mormon initiation in the Salt Lake temple. He shows in great detail that all three initiations were the same. The same oaths, secret handshakes, and garb. Of course they are. We are looking at one face here hidden by many masks."

JJ:
There are some similarities, but what Icke does not point out is that most involved in Wicca are very harmless folks far removed from Satanism

Icke:
"The Salt Lake temple is covered with Illuminati symbols, like the All Seeing Eye, and it is built with granite, a rock which has been used throughout the ages for temples on earth power centers and for esoteric initiation."

JJ:
This idea of evil would also imply that the founding Fathers of the U.S. were evil. Also note that George Washington and most founding fathers were Masons which he condemns as evil.

There is corruption in Masonry, but there is also a lot of truth there and it will be reformed to represent the side of light in totality in the coming age.

Icke:
"The Mormons also use the bee symbol, a classic symbol of the Merovingian bloodine."

JJ:
Yes, we must beware of those evil bees.

Icke:
"Joseph Smith carried a dove medallion given to him by an English Masonic lodge. The dove is Illuminati symbolism for Queen Semiramis, the female deity in their Babylonian trinity."

JJ:
This is the first time I have heard of the symbol of the dove as being evil. Someone ought to tell that to Jesus and John the Baptist. NOTE: The sign of the dove appeared at the baptism of Jesus.

Icke:
"The Mormon Church, like the Watchtower Society, is also a front for trauma-based mind control. Many survivors have told of their horrific torture in Salt Lake City in Mormon buildings and centers."

JJ:
If they want to control anyone they would want to control ex-Mormons who expose them like Sterling, Susan, Jahniha, me and others. I have seen no evidence of this.

Icke:
"The Mormon genealogy operation is also a front behind which the Illuminati keep track of the reptilian bloodline, who has it to a "pure" enough level and who has not."

JJ:
The Mormons are big on Genealogy, but only individual families pay much attention to a particular bloodline and that is their own.

I have read a lot of anti-Mormon stuff, but rarely have I read an article with such fabrication.

I have only read a sampling of his writings, but when I read something like him calling George Bush a shape shifter who must drink blood to keep from changing into a reptile I can only take this guy with a grain of salt.

I am from the same bloodline as Joseph Smith so he will probably accuse me of being a reptile also.

There is a great mystery behind the reptiles and I will be writing about it in a future Immortal book. This guy has caught a glimpse of truth and distorted it into something that will be such a laughing stock that the real truth will be difficult for his believers to accept. Maybe this is what the real dark conspiracy wants.

"He that hath two navels is born again."