Spiritual Gifts
Question: How much correlation is there between the so-called spiritual gifts that a person possesses or can demonstrate, and the purity of their motives, actions, and/or beliefs?
JJ: The first thing to realize here is that many gifts claimed by the various gurus are based on illusion and not even real. Many who claim to heal are merely good hypnotists and the subject receives only temporary relief through the power of suggestion.
Many other so called signs ad wonders are brought about by hypnotic techniques. For example, a few years ago there were several local gurus who claimed to have the ability to call down spaceships and communicate with the officers on board. I was curious about this so I decided to attend one of these sessions. The group was full of believers who fully expected to see a spaceship. As the process began one of the group pointed to a bright object in the sky and called out – “I see a ship right there!”
I looked up to see what it was and offered a correction. “That’s not a spaceship. That’s the planet Venus.”
“Oh,” she said, sounding disappointed.
My bringing the lady back to realty seemed to break the spell of the group and that night no spaceship was seen and no contact made. I was never invited to join them again.
On the other hand, there are a few possessing real gifts of some kind. Does this mean we should then trust that which they teach?
No. A thousand times no. The true seeker must always run teachings of any kind past his soul before he accepts them. If he can’t get soul confirmation then he must at least run then by his logical mind and use his common sense.
So how does one who is in illusion develop what seems to be spiritual gifts?
The answer is simple. Energy follows thought. If a person, good or bad, puts a lot of attention [energy] on developing a skill then a certain amount of proficiency will be attained.
Even so, we have not seen in our age a person who can manifest the gifts that Jesus had 2000 years ago. If you see someone truly walk on water then he obviously has some knowledge about how that is accomplished and it would probably be worthwhile to ask him some questions. On the other hand, if he tells you to give him all your money or you are going to hell then do not walk away, but run.
Re: Free Will and Work
A supporter of the misled teacher mentioned in my previous post tries to set me straight saying: “Righteous dictatorship is not a righteous tyranny as we might stereotypically think. Righteous dictators are very wise and knowledgeable advanced government, several notches above us in their spiritual development, unlike the politicians of today. Righteous dictators which would decree some things without asking you and provide these things without forcing. The first thing they will do is to provide basic food, shelter, education and medical help/healing for every one free.”
JJ: First of all there is no such thing as a “righteous dictatorship” where the dear leader must be followed without question or consultation. Whenever free will is relinquished to a dictator, civilization and progress suffers.
Even if these supposed advanced humans came and supplied all our needs what good would it do? We would become lazy and slothful after a while. Struggle builds character and keeps us from devolving.
The fact that advanced beings are coming here to supply all our needs so we don’t have to work is pure fantasy in my opinion. But let us suppose they did come for that purpose. How will they get the food to feed the whole world? Are they just going to snap their fingers or are they going to dictate to us the work we need to do to make it happen?
Reader: Then everyone will have their own free choice either to continue to pay medical insurance or not, go to work or not, etc., he-he.
Will capitalism survive under such a dictatorial regime?
JJ: Yes, capitalism always suffers under dictators. Look at North Korea. No one is buying condos there.
Pol Pot did away with money in Cambodia and no one bought anything and peopled starved to death.
Reader: Our system will collapse without a single drop of blood shed, since money — this horrible tool of exploitation — will be rendered useless by the dictators. Not a single bit of property will be expropriated from the rich as Russian communists did in 1917. Not a single cent on the bank accounts will be touched.
JJ This is a communist dictators dream. Eventually we will move to a society that will not need money but it will not be accomplished by taking away free will but by using free will.
Reader: Every type of work can either be performed by the Earthlings or by the ETs with their robots and technology. Every one of us will have a choice either to do a certain work or leave it to the “dictators” with their robots.
JJ: You are going astray from the writings of your teacher for he doesn’t believe in ET’s. Here is what he said:
WE ARE ALONE IN THIS PRESENT UNIVERSE. THERE ARE NO OTHER HUMAN BEINGS IN THIS PRESENT UNIVERSE THAT WE PERCEIVE THROUGH OUR SENSES WHILE GOING THROUGH THIS MORTAL EXPERIENCE UPON THIS EARTH. We can create a telescope as large as we want. We can come up with all kinds of theories. We can travel to the ends of the Universe, as we perceive it, but we will never encounter another human being in the present Universe that we perceive as mortal humans … ABSOLUTELY NEVER.
The only thing close to ET’s he believes in are immortal beings – not other beings like ourselves.
Overall, I think you were unjust in accusing me of misrepresenting his teachings. I think that what I wrote about them was quite accurate and the quotes I supplied verified that.
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men. – Jean Rostand
Feb 17, 2013
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