Influences and Questions
There are numerous examples where the Jupiter/Sun energies are at play in the world today and where Saturn has strong influence.
Let me give you examples as I see them starting with the Saturn influence.
(1) Islam from shortly after the death of Mohammed to the present. When Mohammed was alive Islam was controlled by Venus and they were generous toward their enemies in defeat and the people as a whole were inspired in the direction of creativity and building. Now their main emphasis is Saturnian obedience.
(2) Many current Christian religions who interpret the scriptures in a black and white manner.
(3) On the positive side of Saturn, it is connected with the Holy Spirit within us which disciplines us in the ways of the Spirit and guides us in the direction we need to tread.
The Jupiter/Sun influence
(1) The evolving idea of Christ Consciousness which is permeating society.
(2) The concept of love and forgiveness as initiated by Christ and still developing in the minds of humanity.
(3) Charitable organizations which have sprung up over the past couple hundred years.
A reader questioned the wisdom behind my question and answer series.
Everyone has different tastes and approaches to learning and presentation.
Let me tell you why I think this question presentation is beneficial.
A teacher can teach basic principles and truths and those on the receiving end will often embrace them without applying them to real situations and belief systems and thus miss the lesson of the truth received.
A good example of this is found with many religious folk who give and receive lessons out of the Bible on the simple teachings of Christ. In theory, they may think turning the other cheek is a great idea, but often in practice they fail miserably at living this and are completely unaware of the connection.
The effective teacher will not only mouth the platitude “turn the other cheek” but will also present an example the student can identify with so he can apply the principle in his life.
For instance, he may say something like:
If you are waiting in line for a movie and someone cuts in front of you how would you apply this teaching?
The advantage of these questions is that it gives people the opportunity to examine various beliefs in the light of day to see how much sense they really make.
A person may be in illusion in a certain area all his life, but in one moment awaken to a higher truth because someone had the wisdom to shed some stark light on his belief.
As we leave the age of Pisces, a strong water sign governed by emotion, we enter into Aquarius, an air sign governed by mind.
The old Piscean way is to feel after truth, but the new Aquarian way will be to think after it and reason it out as soul contact is approached.
Those who are in illusion because they feel after truth will have high resistance and often be highly offended when truth is presented on a mental level.
Christ himself had a great problem with this because his presentation of truth was so jolting the religious authorities were offended and had him crucified. In fact so many were offended at him that he once said “Blessed is he who is not offended in me.”
I believe these questions and answers serve a good purpose and plan on writing some more of them. And yes, I think the new agers deserve a few of them also. Illusion is everywhere.
Question: Are you trying to reveal these belief systems don’t have merit … because they do. Each of us are a melting pot of all we’ve been exposed to and absorbed.
You missed the point if you think that I do not believe these various belief systems have merit.
I embrace teachings from numerous faiths. But because I respect a belief system and embrace much of it does not mean that I shirk responsibility to shed a little extra light when the opportunity presents itself.
I wouldn’t call what I am doing pointing fingers. I am representing these beliefs with a high degree of accuracy and they thus speak for themselves. I hope to accomplish the dispelling of illusion in some. I hope readers will ask these questions to those who embrace illusion. Without the exposure of differences to cast a shadow, light cannot be revealed in this world.
Question: What is the belief system of this group?
I wouldn’t call what I am presenting a “belief system.” There is no system about it for all can believe as they please and be a member of this forum.
If there is any systemization to my belief it would be to verify whatever comes along through the soul.
Comment: I found it disturbing that a person’s beliefs were seen to be so illogical and also judgmental.
Keep in mind that the character in the conversation is fictitious so there is no one to belittle. If a person’s beliefs are on a solid foundation then it is impossible to belittle them. On the other hand, many of us do have beliefs that turn out to be somewhat silly when a greater light comes. I know this has happened to me before and I am thrilled that I saw how silly I was in the past and am happy and appreciative to all those in my life who have helped me find my own illusions.
Would you deny someone else the same joy I have received through having illusions contrasted with common sense?
My intent is NOT to ridicule or judge but to inform, enlighten and guide. To ridicule usually implies some type of name-calling and mean spiritedness and I assure you that I have called no one any names since the beginning of this group. I have no mean-spirited intent and if anyone sees that in my writings they are seeing something between the lines that is not there.
Many of these conversations are almost word for word a replica of many I have had in the past so they are an honest presentation of reality. Reality does not ridicule, but reality can make one feel ridiculous.
I’ve had these type of conversations with many people and some have disagreed with my reasoning and some see my point but none showed any signs of feeling belittled.
I’ve had people respond positively in the past to this line of questioning and they are currently quite grateful to me. Some say their dialog turns out to be very close to my presentation.
I do agree with a reader that those with illusionary beliefs may feel insulted, not only by my questions, but by other teachings I have given out. Where one person may relish a challenge to his beliefs (as I do) another may feel highly insulted that others may consider they lack common sense.
There are two basic approaches to teaching available.
(1) Hold your finger in the air and feel everyone’s thoughtforms and make sure that what you give out does not disturb any of them.
(2) Search your soul for what needs to be said and then say it as clearly as possible, even if thoughtforms are disturbed.
Just before the days of Jesus there came another Messiah named Jahaha who also had great power to do miracles and knew the mysteries of heaven.
But Jahaha had a different approach. When he realized that his miracles offended the Pharisees he decided to do only little miracles in obscure places to make sure none were offended.
He refused to raise his friend Jobba from the dead, as did Jesus with Lazarus, because he knew the religious leaders would be infuriated.
When he saw that teaching the stark truth in contrast to old illusions offended many he toned down his speech and structured all his teachings around strict obedience to law. He tried to sneak in teachings of love, but found he always had to teach in support of animal sacrifice and strict obedience to be liked.
Once he tried contrasting the law of love with the old emphasis of strict obedience and some were offended because they thought Jahaha was accusing them of being unloving. When Jahaha saw their hurt feelings he never again made the contrast.
Now of course, when we look back on history we see that our Jahaha never made his point and is lost and forgotten, but the teachings of Jesus are yet alive and well. Those who were angry at Jesus for contrasting love with strict obedience are now seen as embracing illusion that needed to be dispelled.
(Note Jahaha is fictional, but I assure you there were some like him in those days)
This same principle of contrast applies today. Contrasting truth (or even perceived truth) with error will often enflame some, but to walk on eggshells to avoid contrast is a sure sign of death to most any teaching.
Buddha, Jesus, Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, Joseph Smith, Mohammed and most other effective teachers and innovators made a large portion of the people angry at them because of the contrasts they made with old belief systems.
For a current example of this look at the two most popular, and most loved, talk show hosts in the United States. On the right we have Rush Limbaugh and on the left we have Howard Stern. Both of these have many listeners who love them to pieces, but both are also hated by many because they present their thoughts clearly with no excuses.
On the other hand, I have seen many sensitive talk show hosts come and go. They are neither loved nor hated. They are just there taking up space and wasting the listener’s time.
There are many groups on the Web with several times our membership yet some of them only get a post every couple days. Even though they have the numbers they have few contrasts because everyone is trying to be so nice in their presentation. The trouble is that they become so lukewarm that nothing is happening.
I would rather be where there is thriving life in the midst of a dozen than be in staleness among a thousand.
May 28, 2001, 2001
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